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Re: 2019: Saraki Should Forget About The Presidency and PDP's Ticket by colossus2: 8:07pm On Aug 06, 2015
temitemi1:
Just telling u to take ur frustration somewhere else ok cool
You have nothing in your thick skull
Re: 2019: Saraki Should Forget About The Presidency and PDP's Ticket by iPrinz20(m): 8:08pm On Aug 06, 2015
joseph1832:
Oh barcanista! You knew all this about Saraki and you threw all your support behind Saraki and celebrated when he was declared Senate President?

One might just have to question your true sense of patriotism because so far, you've only shown that you're bias and twisted in almost everything you do.

And as usual, the master has called for his canine unit for support: I wonder the kind of criticisms and opinions these monikers will give owing to the fact that most of them openly celebrated when Saraki was made Senate President.

u wanna hear my opinion?? D guy barcanista is damn right.... He's one of d few sane and matured minds on NL... I respect him......

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Re: 2019: Saraki Should Forget About The Presidency and PDP's Ticket by fulanimafia: 8:08pm On Aug 06, 2015
abdulwastecx:


When i hear of northern or southern president i get seriously angry....Nigeria need her best brain to lead and developed our nation. I want light, fast rail and better social ameneties....fashola is a good candidate, el rufai is a great candidate and soludo is a game changer

I completely agree, however some will never see it that way which is why the rotational format is considered to provide the atmosphere for attaining those ideals and more.
Re: 2019: Saraki Should Forget About The Presidency and PDP's Ticket by Nobody: 8:08pm On Aug 06, 2015
abdulwastecx:


When i hear of northern or southern president i get seriously angry....Nigeria need her best brain to lead and developed our nation. I want light, fast rail and better social ameneties....fashola is a good candidate, el rufai is a great candidate and soludo is a game changer

Unfortunately we only see things through ethnic lenses....Our judgments get clouded by tribal and religious sentiments that we don't see what's in front of us.....Nigeria/Nigerians still have a long way to go.I remember someone on this Nairaland attacked me for supporting Buhari who is a 'northerner' and didn't support Jonathan who is a 'southerner' all because I'm from the SS......oooh well smiley
Re: 2019: Saraki Should Forget About The Presidency and PDP's Ticket by joseph1832(m): 8:11pm On Aug 06, 2015
iPrinz20:


u wanna hear my opinion?? D guy barcanista is damn right.... He's one of d few sane and matured minds on NL... I respect him......
Well its still your opinion brother and you're entitled to it. However, I'll have you know that opinions without substantiated facts are just baseless opinions, nothing more, nothing less, and this is what barcanista is spewing.
Re: 2019: Saraki Should Forget About The Presidency and PDP's Ticket by Matthewbriggs(m): 8:11pm On Aug 06, 2015
Is it not too early to start talking about 2019 ... PDP will definitely not field Saraki. He's like Amaechi is to APC. Just like Amaechi he can't be president but is a good foot soldier.

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Re: 2019: Saraki Should Forget About The Presidency and PDP's Ticket by Nobody: 8:15pm On Aug 06, 2015
Matthewbriggs:
Is it not too early to start talking about 2019 ... PDP will definitely not field Saraki. He's like Amaechi is to APC. Amaechi can't be president but is a good foot soldier.
Well, it isn't too early my brother. Do you know that politicians start with their schemes for the next election the very moment that a candidate is inaugurated? Why do you think the APC is trying all they could to shut PDP out of relevance? Bro, that's the reality grin
Re: 2019: Saraki Should Forget About The Presidency and PDP's Ticket by Nobody: 8:17pm On Aug 06, 2015
iPrinz20:


u wanna hear my opinion?? D guy barcanista is damn right.... He's one of d few sane and matured minds on NL... I respect him......
Thanks boss cool
Re: 2019: Saraki Should Forget About The Presidency and PDP's Ticket by Moheat(m): 8:19pm On Aug 06, 2015
Beremx:
Robot, I have the right to comment on any thread on NL. Who are you to tell me where to comment and where not to comment?

Btw,if your grandmother is useless,I can take her position and groom you well as my grandson

Berem the old lady!
Re: 2019: Saraki Should Forget About The Presidency and PDP's Ticket by Jesusloveyou: 8:25pm On Aug 06, 2015
barcanista:

I tell you that all PDP need to do is to come out "correct" like you said, maintain its SS/SE base, strive more for the SW and consolidate on their inroad in the NE. If yoi look at the margin of 2015 poll it was meagre 3m (the least in Nigeria's history). The division among the APC ranks, disatisfaction of voters that thought PMB had something to offer and a strong PDP is enough to sweep the ruling-opposition from Aso rock in 2019. Hopefully, we all shall be alive to witness it. Plus we shall continue to encourage PDP to put forward reputable people.
in ur dream, people are dissatisfied with PMB for just 2months, hahahaha, even in 4yrs time, by d time PMB deal with d corrupt saTANist, pdp cannot recover from d Bruce
Re: 2019: Saraki Should Forget About The Presidency and PDP's Ticket by MizMyColi(f): 8:27pm On Aug 06, 2015
@Whynotthetruth
There are different approaches to communicating a truth...two of which are...the diplomatic kind, and the militia kind...

I will never cower when it comes to speaking a truth that I perceiveundecidedundecided
My bane though would be that I am too considerate a human being and will always take into account, the feelings of those to whom I speak this truth.

However, there are times when I'd go the assertive route and not care whose ox is gored.


@Barcanista.
I had typed an epistle before seeing your mention, but network wouldn't let me post. It is only sane and socially mindful that I accede to your request.


@Fulanimafia
This is me acknowledging your mention, I believe time and tide will provide an opportunity to address them in the near future.
See you around...
Re: 2019: Saraki Should Forget About The Presidency and PDP's Ticket by Moheat(m): 8:27pm On Aug 06, 2015
temitemi1:
I think a good wife sud be in the kitchen cooking for her loving husband by now n not sitting on her fat ass pressing phone grin grin grin

TemiTemi please leave this old woman alone na
Re: 2019: Saraki Should Forget About The Presidency and PDP's Ticket by MizMyColi(f): 8:29pm On Aug 06, 2015
Thank you for this.
It clarifies a lot.


barcanista:
@Mizmycoli: I think you should stop entertaining that troll on his derail tactiics. That people agitate for emancipation does not mean they shouldn't participate in national politics. In fact, I will give you instances.

1. Despite Catalunya agitating for independence, they still participate in the National politics of Spain.

2. In the UK, some Scottish parliamentarians were at the forefront of secession, yet they still participate in British politics.

3. During the agitation for MidWest state, the Binis and other Midwesterners still participated in Western Politics.

4. It is polictics to bring out your best candidate to win power. It is easier to make demands when your party's candidate is in power. Our support for Dankwambo and South East VP stand...

5. I tell you that with a SE VP, many things will follow.

Pls ignore that troll derail tactics.
Re: 2019: Saraki Should Forget About The Presidency and PDP's Ticket by Moheat(m): 8:32pm On Aug 06, 2015
PassingShot:
Barcanista the very amusing analyst, how far? grin

1. With this thread and some of your statements on why you supported Saraki for Senate Presidency, you have once again proved beyond any reasonable doubt that you're not patriotic to Nigeria.

2. If Saraki was good enough to give a life to PDP, he should be good enough to vie for president under PDP.

3. That you SSers/SEners (especially you barcanista) can make case for another Northerner (Ibrahim Dankwabo) to be president in 2019, is a sign of hypocrisy that stinks to high heavens. This is because you've severally abused the SWners of following the Hausas blindly. You tag us as slaves. So, why can't you guys push for a good person from SS/SE as president?

4. Going by your permutations, a Southerner will not be president until 1927 at the earliest. It can be 1931 if PMB does two terms.

5. The reasonable thing for the SS/SE to do would have been to align with APC and hope that after PMB, a SEner will be made president. Unfortunately, I don't see that possibility with the way things are unfolding.

Finally, Saraki, Atiku and even Nuhu Ribadu have very slim chance of becoming president in Nigeria.

It doesn't still change the fact that Swners are slaves.
Re: 2019: Saraki Should Forget About The Presidency and PDP's Ticket by Nobody: 8:33pm On Aug 06, 2015
MizMyColi:
@Whynotthetruth
There are different approaches to communicating a truth...two of which are...the diplomatic kind, and the militia kind...

I will never cower when it comes to speaking a truth that I perceiveundecidedundecided
My bane though would be that I am too considerate a human being and will always take into account, the feelings of those to whom I speak this truth.

However, there are times when I'd go the assertive route and not care whose ox is gored.


@Barcanista.
I had typed an epistle before seeing your mention, but network wouldn't let me post. It is only sane and socially mindful that I accede to your request.

Re: 2019: Saraki Should Forget About The Presidency and PDP's Ticket by Moheat(m): 8:36pm On Aug 06, 2015
fulanimafia:
Passingshot just ignore the protection seeker. A person that has never been known to be principled in the first place; you can't squeeze water out of a rock.

Whose protection is he seeking?
Re: 2019: Saraki Should Forget About The Presidency and PDP's Ticket by Moheat(m): 8:38pm On Aug 06, 2015
Whynotthetruth:


APC already has someone on Imo state(Rochas) who they will want to use to consolidate their inroad there.

So PDP need a good SE candidate to neutralize him and combine it with a Northerner to outsmart others...

I don't think SS can't be the joker here...though it's already a lockdown territory for PDP...SW can't be part of the presidential ticket in the immediate again...

Good analysis! I like that.
Re: 2019: Saraki Should Forget About The Presidency and PDP's Ticket by OAMMB(f): 8:38pm On Aug 06, 2015
barcanista:

I tell you that all PDP need to do is to come out "correct" like you said, maintain its SS/SE base, strive more for the SW and consolidate on their inroad in the NE. If yoi look at the margin of 2015 poll it was meagre 3m (the least in Nigeria's history). The division among the APC ranks, disatisfaction of voters that thought PMB had something to offer and a strong PDP is enough to sweep the ruling-opposition from Aso rock in 2019. Hopefully, we all shall be alive to witness it. Plus we shall continue to encourage PDP to put forward reputable people.

It's a long walk to freedom right now for pdp... the wind of change across the country is stronger.
The feeling before the elections is different from the feeling now after the elections...to me they have gathered more souls.
Letz hope they win the elections in bayelsa first becuz already...bayelsa pdp is shaky. Pmb just ordered the cleaning of ogoni lands...that is some political points he is scoring there...something Jonathan didnt do....what the masses want to see is that they want to see things work...nepa, refineries etc. who did it? they careless...unfortunately these things didn't work for Jonathan even if he drew the road map for it. And so far so good the militants seems to fall in line too. Pdp also needs a serious cash cow to finance alot of their campaigns. like you said God keep us alive to see these things and comment on these issues...till then we'll be the watcha
Re: 2019: Saraki Should Forget About The Presidency and PDP's Ticket by fulanimafia: 8:44pm On Aug 06, 2015
Moheat:


Whose protection is he seeking?

Fellow nl's, its a shameful story better left untold.
Re: 2019: Saraki Should Forget About The Presidency and PDP's Ticket by Jesusloveyou: 8:47pm On Aug 06, 2015
barcanista:
That's the spirit girl...PDP is on a rebranding phase. I'm optimistic that young people will lead the drive. We are showing the ruling-opposition APC how to be opposition
by making noise
Re: 2019: Saraki Should Forget About The Presidency and PDP's Ticket by superstar1(m): 8:56pm On Aug 06, 2015
Anybody that thinks PDP is coming back to Aso Rock any time soon, must definitely be on cheap crack.


Anybody that contests under PDP in 2019 will lose, whether he is Jesus Xt or Muhammed or Shango!!!!

No story.
Re: 2019: Saraki Should Forget About The Presidency and PDP's Ticket by Jesusloveyou: 8:57pm On Aug 06, 2015
OAMMB:


It's a long walk to freedom right now for pdp... the wind of change across the country is stronger.
The feeling before the elections is different from the feeling now after the elections...to me they have gathered more souls.
Letz hope they win the elections in bayelsa first becuz already...bayelsa pdp is shaky. Pmb just ordered the cleaning of ogoni lands...that is some political points he is scoring there...something Jonathan do....what the masses want to see is that they want to see things work...nepa, refineries etc. who did it? they careless...unfortunately these things didn't work for Jonathan even if he drew the road map for it. And so far so good the militants seems to fall in line too. like you said God keep us alive to see these things and comment on these issues...till then we'll be the watcha
u are right, but d view of d chief wailer, is hoping for PMB to fail, u can imaging d kind of saTANist he is, after he will say,he is patriotic
Re: 2019: Saraki Should Forget About The Presidency and PDP's Ticket by tim1256(m): 8:58pm On Aug 06, 2015
barcanista:
If the recent posture of the Senate President Abubakar Bukola Saraki of recent times is connected with his 2019 Presidential bid, then he and his Advisers should wake up to reality. To be candid with Bukola Saraki, he will not be President of the Federal Republic of Nigeria whether in 2019 or anytime in the future irrespective of the party he choose to align himself with. It will be unpatriotic and immoral to even consider him as President of this country.

What Are The "Sins" of Saraki?
1. The alleged fraud by the Sarakis that led to the fall of Societe Generale Bank, which cost so many people their life savings and means of livelihood is still fresh in the minds of Nigerians. Bukola Saraki, his now late father, his sister (Gbemisola Saraki) and some their proteges were fingered in the fraud.

2. As Chairman Nigeria Governors Forum, Bukola Saraki was at the forefront of the struggle to deplete the Excess Crude Account which they successfully did after holding the then president by the balls.

3. As Governor of Kwara state, Bukola Saraki was accused of several corruption deals, some of which are under the EFCC investigation.

4. Saraki presided over the affairs of Kwara state for 8years and despite having his stooge and incumbent Governor Ahmed, Kwara state is still lagging behind in terms of capital and human development.

Other Sins Of Saraki
5. Sin Against The South: In 2010, Bukola Saraki was determined to see that Dr Goodluck Jonathan did not emerge PDP candidate (and President) simply because he (Goodluck) wasn't a Northerner. Saraki teamed up with PDP aspirants Atiku Abubakar and IBB to present a "Northern Consensus Candidate". Atiku Abubakar emerged as their "candidate". He(Saraki) went further to instruct Kwara PDP delegates to vote for the Northern Consensus Candidate (Atiku) in the PDP December 2010 Primaries.

6. Sin Against PDP: Saraki and other nPDP rebels despite riding to prominence on the PDP platform decided to work against PDP, factionalised the party and moved to APC simply because a Southern incumbent decided to seek re-election. (He should sort himself out with APC)

I believe the above reasons are strong enough for Saraki to be rejected should he consider seeking election for the office of the President in 2015 irrespective of the ticket he chooses to align himself with.

Who Should Be The PDP's 2019 Flagbearer:
If the PDP is keen on fielding a Northerner for 2019 Presidential election, then it should start by grooming Governor Ibrahim Dankwambo of Gombe state. The Governor seem to enjoy relative popularity in his Gombe state and the North East. He also enjoys relative credibility from among his people. Also considering that the North East has never produced the President of Nigeria, his will be a huge advantage to break into the zone. A Dakwambo's pairing with a credible candidate from the South East (Mr Peter Obi for instance) will be a worthy team for the PDP that will give the APC a run for their money.

For the record, some of us supported Saraki for Senate Presidency to spite the APC and to check the influence of APC's Chieftains influence on the Senate. But that is it! Saraki should sort himself out with his "fellow progressives" but forget about the prospect of Aso Rock whether in 2019 or at any time. I have to add that Saraki's misunderstanding/fight with some of his "progressive elements" will nevertheless be a blessing to the PDP's drive to reclaim the Presidency from the APC in 2019.


May God Bless Us All
Ok o
Re: 2019: Saraki Should Forget About The Presidency and PDP's Ticket by OAMMB(f): 9:08pm On Aug 06, 2015
Jesusloveyou:
u are right, but d view of d chief wailer, is hoping for PMB to fail, u can imaging d kind of saTANist he is, after he will say,he is patriotic

I don't want to believe he wants the current govt to fail..he is a Nigerian and definately Nigeria is all he is got...I think he is very passionate about the love he has for pdp. His opposition stands gives us something to write and ponder on.
That is democracy If you ask me. We can't all see the world through the same eye. We all swing differently.

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Re: 2019: Saraki Should Forget About The Presidency and PDP's Ticket by Nobody: 9:16pm On Aug 06, 2015
My Dear, who's deceiving you? I was in Rivers state last week and only returned to Lagos 2 days ago. I tell you that APC is nowhere to be found in both Rivers and Bayelsa state. You talked of the so-called clean-up but has anything been started? My people don't fall for cheap propaganda and they all know who fixed the refineries and power. I think you people should come to the reality that APC will NOT come any close to winning Bayelsa guber election. Dickson and PDP will sweep Bayelsa. It is something we shouldn't argue. ApC should bother itself with Edo state 2016. All your talks about militants "falling in line" is very funny. Who's feeding you infor? Anyway, PDP will put its house in order. So far, Buhari has lost more that he had pre-inauguration.
OAMMB:


It's a long walk to freedom right now for pdp... the wind of change across the country is stronger.
The feeling before the elections is different from the feeling now after the elections...to me they have gathered more souls.
Letz hope they win the elections in bayelsa first becuz already...bayelsa pdp is shaky. Pmb just ordered the cleaning of ogoni lands...that is some political points he is scoring there...something Jonathan didnt do....what the masses want to see is that they want to see things work...nepa, refineries etc. who did it? they careless...unfortunately these things didn't work for Jonathan even if he drew the road map for it. And so far so good the militants seems to fall in line too. Pdp also needs a serious cash cow to finance alot of their campaigns. like you said God keep us alive to see these things and comment on these issues...till then we'll be the watcha
Re: 2019: Saraki Should Forget About The Presidency and PDP's Ticket by engineerboat(m): 9:18pm On Aug 06, 2015
barcanista:
Opinions and Criticisms are welcomed.

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Saraki himself cannot try it. Though supported for Senate presidency, that is how far it can go, but for 2019 presidency (well maybe under SPN-Saraki party of Nigeria).

For those shouting PMB will have massive suppo1t, they should not forget 2011 vs 2015 election result.

@Barcanista pls if U have Saraki no, help tell am, make he no try am oooohm we don wise now.

Oju ti laaaaaaaaaaaa. Even CHAGErians are shaking at the massive Tsunami coming on the way.

All the tribal lord on Nairaland, e ki owo omo yin bo aso oooo, eleyi kin se oro eleya meya.

Where does the write mention Ilorin, e sora yin ooooo
Re: 2019: Saraki Should Forget About The Presidency and PDP's Ticket by Naijacitizen(m): 9:21pm On Aug 06, 2015
barcanista:
Opinions and Criticisms are welcomed.

Hinwazaka iPrinz20 Aprokoman, Whynotthetruth, Dearpreye, Firefire, Francizy, Biafranqueen, Mogidi, Mizmycoli, IsraeliAirforce, Candyrain, Ambivert, Rose2014, Provacateur, Opiaoku, NDPVF, Anonimi, Engineerboat, Talktimi, ahaika23, coolestrogue APCSucks Emperortj93 DebateNigeria Wasquad and all patriots

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Re: 2019: Saraki Should Forget About The Presidency and PDP's Ticket by OAMMB(f): 9:30pm On Aug 06, 2015
barcanista:
My Dear, who's deceiving you? I was in Rivers state last week and only returned to Lagos 2 days ago. I tell you that APC is nowhere to be found in both Rivers and Bayelsa state. You talked of the so-called clean-up but has anything been started? My people don't fall for cheap propaganda and they all know who fixed the refineries and power. I think you peoples should come to the reality that APC will NOT come any close to winning Bayelsa guber election. Dickson and PDP will sweep Bayelsa. It is something we shouldn't argue. ApC should bother itself with Edo state 2016. All your talks about militants "falling in line" is very funny. Who's feeding you infor? Anyway, PDP will put its house in order. So far, Buhari has lost more that he had pre-inauguration.

Well...as per where i get my info ... im not on ground to get 1st hand info so i cant argue. I only listen to online radio and read the dailies online too..and sample opinon online.
Hmmmm Nigerian politics...interesting times ahead then.
I will be surprised that with all the allegations against pdp govt in 16yrs they still will get support from SS....what can I say .... This one is strong grin
Re: 2019: Saraki Should Forget About The Presidency and PDP's Ticket by SeverusSnape(m): 9:37pm On Aug 06, 2015
temitemi1:
Grandmother, barcanista didn't mention ur name here na. U need to face ur husband if u have one n stop running ur mouth after barcanista thread ma cool
Don't mind Beremx, She's a certified troll.
Re: 2019: Saraki Should Forget About The Presidency and PDP's Ticket by Nobody: 9:47pm On Aug 06, 2015
engineerboat:


Saraki himself cannot try it. Though supported for Senate presidency, that is how far it can go, but for 2019 presidency (well maybe under SPN-Saraki party of Nigeria).

For those shouting PMB will have massive suppo1t, they should not forget 2011 vs 2015 election result.

@Barcanista pls if U have Saraki no, help tell am, make he no try am oooohm we don wise now.

Oju ti laaaaaaaaaaaa. Even CHAGErians are shaking at the massive Tsunami coming on the way.

All the tribal lord on Nairaland, e ki owo omo yin bo aso oooo, eleyi kin se oro eleya meya.

Where does the write mention Ilorin, e sora yin ooooo
I don't knw Saraki o but I will advice him on twitter. Those Changerians are in for a shock.
Re: 2019: Saraki Should Forget About The Presidency and PDP's Ticket by Nobody: 10:08pm On Aug 06, 2015
OAMMB:


Well...as per where i get my info ... im not on ground to get 1st hand info so i cant argue. I only listen to online radio and read the dailies online too..and sample opinon online.
Hmmmm Nigerian politics...interesting times ahead then.
I will be surprised that with all the allegations against pdp govt in 16yrs they still will get support from SS....what can I say .... This one is strong grin
Who are the PDP people that ruled for "16 years"?

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