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A Glimpse Into The Khawaarij by kennyosein(m): 6:01am On Aug 06, 2015
AUTHOR: Shaikh Saalih Al-Fawzaan SOURCE: Lamha ‘an-il-Firaq-id-Daalah (pg. 31-37) w/ notes by Shabbaab Ar-Raajihee PRODUCED BY: Al-Ibaanah.com

The Khawaarij are those who revolted (i.e. made khurooj) against the ruler during the last part of ‘Uthmaan’s Khilaafah. Their revolting resulted in the murder of ‘Uthmaan (radyAllaahu ‘anhu ). Then their evil increased during the Khilaafah of ‘Alee (radyAllaahu ‘anhu ) and they rebelled against him, declaring him to be a disbeliever. They also pronounced disbelief on the Companions, because they would not agree with them in their (false) beliefs. So they ruled that all those who opposed them in their views were disbelievers. As a result, they pronounced disbelief on the best amongst creation – the Companions of Allaah’s Messenger (sallAllaahu ‘alayhi wa sallam). Why was this (?) – because they did not agree with them on their misguidance and disbelief.
Their Beliefs: They do not adhere to the Sunnah and the Jamaa’ah, nor do they obey the leader. Rather, they hold rebelling against him and renouncing allegiance to him to be from the Religion,[1] contrary to the advice of Allaah’s Messenger of giving obedience and contrary to what Allaah has commanded in His saying: “Obey Allaah and obey the Messenger and those in authority amongst you.” [Surah An-Nisaa: 59] So Allaah made obeying the ruler part of the Religion, and the Messenger of Allaah (sallAllaahu ‘alayhi wa sallam) made obeying the ruler part of the Religion, as is found in his saying: “I counsel you to have Taqwaa of Allaah and to hear and obey, even if a slave should take command over you. For indeed, whosoever lives amongst you, will see many differences…” [2]
So obeying the Muslim Ruler is part of the Religion (of Islaam). But the Khawarij say: “No, we are free (from this).” This is the way of insurrection and rebellion today! So the Khawaarij are those who seek to cause division to the main unified body of Muslims and to revolt against the leaders – and there is disobedience to Allaah and His Messenger in doing this. They also hold that the person who commits a major sin is a disbeliever. So someone that commits a major sin – a fornicator, a thief, one who drinks alcohol, for example – are all considered disbelievers by them. On the contrary, Ahl-us-Sunnah wal- Jamaa’ah hold such a person as a “Muslim with deficient Eemaan”[3] and they call him a “sinner in the Religion.” So he is a “believer” due to his Eemaan, while being a “sinner” due to his major sin. This is because nothing expels one out of the fold of Islaam except Shirk and the well-known things that nullify one’s Islaam. As for the sins that are below Shirk, then they do not cause one to be expelled from the fold of Eemaan, even if they are major sins. Allaah says: “Verily Allaah does not forgive that Shirk (association of partners in worship) be committed with Him, but he forgives what is lower than that (of sins) to whom He wills.” [Surah an-Nisaa: 48, 116] The Khawaarij say: “The one who commits a major sin is a disbeliever, he will not be forgiven and he will reside in the Hellfire forever.” And this is contrary to what is stated in the Qur’aan. The reason for this is because they do not have understanding (of the Religion).
Take note that the cause for their falling into these (false beliefs) was their lack of knowledge. This is because they are a people intense in their worship, prayer, fasting and recitation of the Qur’aan. And they have a strong fervor for the Religion, but they do not have knowledge – and this is the problem.
So going to great lengths and exerting oneself in piety and worship must be accompanied by knowledge and understanding of the Religion.
This is why the Prophet (sallAllaahu ‘alayhi wa sallam) described them to his Companions in the following manner: That the Companions would look down upon their own prayer as compared to their prayer and on their worship as compared to their worship. Then he said: “They will shoot out from the Religion just as the arrow shoots out from a hunted game” [4] – in spite of their worship and in spite of their righteousness and their praying Tahajjud at night.
So because their exertion was not based upon a correct foundation, nor upon authentic knowledge, it became a misguidance, a plague and evil upon them and upon the ummah.
And furthermore, it is not known from the Khawaarij – for one day – that they fought against the disbelievers ever! Instead, they only fight with the Muslims, as the Prophet (sallAllaahu ‘alayhi wa sallam) said: “And they will kill the People of Islaam, while leaving alone the people of Awthaan (idols).” [5]
So we have not come to know in the history of the Khawaarij that one day they fought against the disbelievers and polytheists. Rather, they are always fighting against the Muslims. They killed ‘Uthmaan and they killed ‘Alee bin Abee Taalib. They killed Az-Zubayr Ibn-ul-‘Awaam and killed the best of the Companions. And they have not stopped killing Muslims.
Re: A Glimpse Into The Khawaarij by kennyosein(m): 6:03am On Aug 06, 2015
And this is all due to their ignorance of the Religion of Allaah. But in spite of this, they had piety and worship, but since these were not founded upon authentic knowledge, it became a disease on them. This is why the great scholar, Ibn Al-Qayyim (rahimahullaah) said in his description of them:
“They have textual evidences, which they fall short of in understanding So they have been given shortness in knowledge.” [6]
So they use texts as evidences but yet they do not comprehend them. They use as evidence texts from the Qur’aan and the Sunnah concerning the threat for committing sins, but they do not comprehend their meanings. They do not refer them back to the other texts, in which there is found a promise for forgiveness and the acceptance of repentance for those whose sins are less than Shirk. So they accept one part and leave off another part – all of this due to their ignorance.
So having an over-protective love for the Religion and enthusiasm are not sufficient. They must be founded upon knowledge and understanding of Allaah’s Religion. This is so that they can be produced from knowledge and so that they can be put in their proper place.
So over-protective love for the Religion is good and enthusiasm is good, but they must be guided and directed by the following of the Qur’aan and the Sunnah.
There is no one with more precedence in the Religion nor more sincere to the Muslims than the Sahaabah (the Comapnions), but in spite of that, they fought against the Khawaarij due to their danger and their evil.
‘Alee bin Abee Taalib fought against them such that he slaughtered them with the worst of killings in the incident of Nahrawaan. By doing this, he realized what the Prophet (sallAllaahu ‘alayhi wa sallam) informed us of in that the Prophet (sallAllaahu ‘alayhi wa sallam) gave the good tidings to the one who killed them of goodness and Paradise. So ‘Alee bin Abee Taalib, he was the one who killed them – so he received this good tiding from Allaah’s Messenger.[7] He killed them in order to prevent their evil from befalling the Muslims.
It is an obligation on the Muslims in every generation, if they should become aware of the existence of this wicked methodology, that they remedy it by calling to the Way of Allaah first and educating the people about it. But if they do not accept this, then they must fight against them in order to prevent their evil.
‘Alee bin Abee Taalib (radyAllaahu ‘anhu ) sent his cousin, ‘Abdullaah bin ‘Abbaas – the Habr (scholar) of the ummah and the Turjumaan (Interpreter) of the Qur’aan – to them. So he debated with them and six thousand amongst them repented and returned back, but many remained behind and did not repent. So at this point, the Ameer-ul-Mu’mineen, ‘Alee bin Abee Taalib, along with the Sahaabah, fought against them. This was in order to prevent their evil and harm from befalling the Muslims.
So this is the sect known as Al-Khawaarij and their beliefs.
Re: A Glimpse Into The Khawaarij by kennyosein(m): 6:05am On Aug 06, 2015
Footnotes:
[1] In our time, perhaps the one who believes that
we must hear and obey the leaders in matters
that are not sinful, are labeled as government
agents or kiss-ups or gullible simpletons! So you
will see them attacking the leaders and exposing
their faults to the public from the mimbars and in
their gatherings. And Allaah’s Messenger
(sallAllaahu ‘alayhi wa sallam) said: “Whoever
desires to advise the sultaan (authority) about a
matter, then he must not expose it in public, but
rather he should take him by his hand and go in
privacy with him. So if he accepts (the advice)
then that is (reward) for him, and if he doesn’t
(accept) then he has conveyed what will be held
against him.” Reported by Ahmad (3/404) from
the narration of ‘Iyyaad bin Ghanam ( radyAllaahu
‘anhu ) Ibn Abee ‘Aasim also reported it in his book
As-Sunnah (2/522).


And when the leader bars one of them from
speaking in public gatherings, they rally together
and go out in demonstrations, thinking – out of
ignorance on their part – that barring someone
from speaking or putting someone in jail justifies
rebellion! Did they not hear the Prophet’s
statement found in the narration of ‘Awf bin
Maalik Al-Ashja’ee (radyAllaahu ‘anhu) in Saheeh
Muslim (1855): “…No, so long as they establish
the prayer.” And in the hadeeth of ‘Ubaadah bin
As-Saamit (radyAllaahu ‘anhu ) found in the two
Saheeh Collections, the Prophet said: “…unless
you see clear and open disbelief, by which you
will have proof before Allaah in the matter.” This
was his ( sallAllaahu ‘alayhi wa sallam) response to
the Companions when they questioned him,
seeking permission to fight against the oppressive
leaders.


Do they not know how long Imaam Ahmad
remained locked up in prison? And where did
Shaikh-ul-Islaam Ibn Taimiyyah die?! Wasn’t
Imaam Ahmad put in jail for several years and
whipped because he would not say that the
Qur’aan was created? So why then did he not
order the people to revolt against the Khaleefah?
Don’t they know that Shaikh-ul-Islaam stayed in
prison for more than two years and died while in
it? Why did he not command the people to revolt
against the leader? And on top of this, these
scholars had a high position in terms of virtue
and knowledge, so what about those who are less
than them Indeed these ideologies and actions
did not come to us except after the youth began
to take their knowledge from such and such
modern-day thinker and from such and such
literary poet and from such and such Islamic
writer, abandoning the scholars and placing their
books behind their backs to be forgotten! Wa laa
hawla wa laa quwata ilaa billaah!


[2] An authentic hadeeth reported by Ahmad, Ibn
Maajah, At-Tirmidhee, Al-Haakim and many others
[Abridged by the translator].


[3] Even if they commit a sin thinking it to be
trivial (Istikhfaaf), they do not commit disbelief
so long as they do not make it lawful (Istihlaal),
contrary to what some of them say: That a
person who commits a sin thinking it to be trivial,
commits disbelief that takes him out from the
Religion. This statement is the essence of the
beliefs of the Khawaarij as our Shaikh, Shaikh
‘Abdul-‘Azeez Ibn ‘Abdillaah Bin Baaz said when
he was asked about it in Taa’if in 1415H.


[4] Part of a long hadeeth reported by Ahmad,
Muslim, Al-Bukhaaree and others from several of
the Companions [Abridged by the translator]


[5] Part of a long hadeeth reported by Ahmad,
Muslim, Al-Bukhaaree and others [Abridged by the
translator]


[6] Nooniyyah of Ibn Al-Qayyim (pg. 97)


[7] Al-Bukhaaree reported in his Saheeh (6930),
Muslim in his Saheeh (1066), Ahmad in his
Musnad (1/113), Ibn Abee ‘Aasim in his As-
Sunnah (914) and ‘Abdullaah bin al-Imaam Ahmad
in his As-Sunnah (1487): From ‘Alee ( radyAllaahu
‘anhu ) who said: “I heard Allaah’s Messenger
(sallAllaahu ‘alayhi wa sallam) say: ‘Towards the
last days, a people will emerge who will be young
in age and have foolish ideas. They will speak
with the best speech of the creatures. Their
Eemaan will not go past their throats. So
wherever you encounter them, kill them, for
indeed there will be a reward for the one who kills
them on the Day of Judgement.’”


After narrating a hadeeth about the Khawaarij and
their signs, Abu Sa’eed Al-Khudree ( radyAllaahu
‘anhu ) said: “Twenty or more than twenty of the
Companions of Allaah’s Messenger narrated to
me that ‘Alee was in charge of killing
them.” Reported by Ahmad in his Musnad (3/33)
and his son ‘Abdullaah in As-Sunnah (1512).

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Re: A Glimpse Into The Khawaarij by Demmzy15(m): 1:32am On Aug 07, 2015
Nice thread! Masha'Allah

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Re: A Glimpse Into The Khawaarij by grownaira: 8:43am On Aug 07, 2015
Boko Haram and ISIS; prototypes of Khawaarij

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Re: A Glimpse Into The Khawaarij by Nobody: 11:44am On Aug 07, 2015
I wonder why this post is not on FP. Jazakallahu khair akhi.

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Re: A Glimpse Into The Khawaarij by Nadheer15: 2:06pm On Aug 07, 2015
@kennyosein I never knew the Salafi Dawah was propagated in Nigeria, especially South West. I personally hated the Salafis before because I thought they supported Bin Laden, Ayman Al Zawahiri and other extremists but that turned out to be a lie. A popular saying goes as "The most extreme Salafi is the one who's the most against terrorism".

From your threads and posts, I think you're a Salafi and I'm proud to know my first Nigerian Salafi brother. Alhamdullahi, a brother created this thread and I think you should check it out https://www.nairaland.com/2449108/it-criminal-unjust-ascribe-actions

Salamu Aleikum bro
Re: A Glimpse Into The Khawaarij by kennyosein(m): 2:39pm On Aug 07, 2015
Waleikum Salam bro,
All praises and thanks belong to Allah who guided us to Islam and the Sunnah, am really proud to meet you too, may Allah continue to guided us on the path of the salaf us saaliheen.

They are large numbers of Salafi brothers here both in the North and South west, am from south west although am temporary residing in the North, Kaduna to precise for now.
Re: A Glimpse Into The Khawaarij by ArcBoB: 4:51pm On Aug 07, 2015
ALHAMDULILLAH. May Allah save us from the whispers of Shaytan and his offsprings and our lust desires of this dunyah

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Re: A Glimpse Into The Khawaarij by kennyosein(m): 5:06pm On Aug 07, 2015
Ameen
Re: A Glimpse Into The Khawaarij by Nobody: 8:02pm On Aug 07, 2015
I'm a salafi too residing in Kogi State. We have to unite and spread the dawah of salafiyyah as Shaykh Rabee and others have mentioned. Refuting the ideologies of al-qaida, an-nusra Boko Haram, Daesh, Taliban etc.

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Re: A Glimpse Into The Khawaarij by Empiree: 9:08pm On Aug 07, 2015
What happens to (just) being Muslims as Allah (subhanahu wat'ala) named us?


#Hajj/78
Re: A Glimpse Into The Khawaarij by usermane(m): 4:45pm On Aug 08, 2015
kennyosein, you have presented a very shallow historical overview about the khawarij, filled with preconceived notions. Most Muslims think of boko haram, ISIS or Al Qaida when khawarij is mentioned because they selectively study Muslim history from Muslim scholars, never study Muslim history from secular scholars like Benard Lewis or authors like Daniel Cook or Lesley Hazleton.

Here are a few myths or lies about the khawarij

A. The Khawarij were extremists, intolerant and blood thirsty Muslim sect who excommunicate and kill sinners and apostates.

False! In every sect; Sunni, Shiites, Sufis, Salafis there are extremists who excommunicate and kill apostates and sinners. These vices are not limited to the Khawarij. For instance, Sunni sect deem a Muslim who refuse to pray for 3 consecutive days to be an apostate to be executed.
Many Khawarij rejected stoning of adulterers. Whereas Sunnis, Shiites, Sufis and Salafis stone adulterers. So there were moderate, tolerant and peaceful Kharijites creed and practical wise.

B. The Khawarij forced Ali to arbitrate at the battle of siffin only to blame him for arbitration rebel and turn against him.

Wrong and misleading. The Khawarij opted for arbitration on ground that Ali and Muawiya resolve issues and restore peace to the war torn empire, unfortunately the duo failed. Fed up, khawarij withdrew to a neutral stand demanding Ali and Muawiya abdicate to allow the masses elect someone else. Both Ali and Muawiya turned down this demand, culminating in assasination attempts against them. Muawiya narrowly escaped but Ali wasn't as fortunate.

It is not true that the Khawarij killed Ali because he arbitrated in the battle of siffin rather than fight Muawiya 's forces till God decide fate.

C. Khawarij rejected Muhammad 's tradition (sunnah)

Another deception. Muhammad had no tradition aside the Qur'an which was compiled as early as his life time. Khawarij accepted the Qur'an. What Khawarij rejected were majority or all of Sunni and Shiites traditions(hadith) fabricated and ascribed to Muhammad.

If hadith books are authorative in Islamic law, why wasn't there an official collection till 8 decades after Muhammad 's death? How could Muhammad and his companions leave such a delicate task to their descendants if they recognized the authority of Hadith. The earliest hadith book in our possession(Malik Muwatta) date 15 decades after Muhammad.

You can read more on Khawarij from Britannica, Wikipedia and Google books. I will provide adequate link to webpages that seek a more objective and detailed explanation of Khawarij.
Re: A Glimpse Into The Khawaarij by grownaira: 8:01pm On Aug 08, 2015
usermane:
kennyosein, you have presented a very shallow historical overview about the khawarij, filled with preconceived notions. Most Muslims think of boko haram, ISIS or Al Qaida when khawarij is mentioned because they selectively study Muslim history from Muslim scholars, never study Muslim history from secular scholars like Benard Lewis or authors like Daniel Cook or Lesley Hazleton.

Here are a few myths or lies about the khawarij



False! In every sect; Sunni, Shiites, Sufis, Salafis there are extremists who excommunicate and kill apostates and sinners. These vices are not limited to the Khawarij. For instance, Sunni sect deem a Muslim who refuse to pray for 3 consecutive days to be an apostate to be executed.
Many Khawarij rejected stoning of adulterers. Whereas Sunnis, Shiites, Sufis and Salafis stone adulterers. So there were moderate, tolerant and peaceful Kharijites creed and practical wise.



Wrong and misleading. The Khawarij opted for arbitration on ground that Ali and Muawiya resolve issues and restore peace to the war torn empire, unfortunately the duo failed. Fed up, khawarij withdrew to a neutral stand demanding Ali and Muawiya abdicate to allow the masses elect someone else. Both Ali and Muawiya turned down this demand, culminating in assasination attempts against them. Muawiya narrowly escaped but Ali wasn't as fortunate.

It is not true that the Khawarij killed Ali because he arbitrated in the battle of siffin rather than fight Muawiya 's forces till God decide fate.



Another deception. Muhammad had no tradition aside the Qur'an which was compiled as early as his life time. Khawarij accepted the Qur'an. What Khawarij rejected were majority or all of Sunni and Shiites traditions(hadith) fabricated and ascribed to Muhammad.

If hadith books are authorative in Islamic law, why wasn't there an official collection till 8 decades after Muhammad 's death? How could Muhammad and his companions leave such a delicate task to their descendants if they recognized the authority of Hadith. The earliest hadith book in our possession(Malik Muwatta) date 15 decades after Muhammad.

You can read more on Khawarij from Britannica, Wikipedia and Google books. I will provide adequate link to webpages that seek a more objective and detailed explanation of Khawarij.

Sorry to say all that you wrote appears to be thrash. Backup your claims with known Islamic historic books and don't refer people to britannica, wikipaedia etc. Any dude that knows how to type and use the internet can upload anything.

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Re: A Glimpse Into The Khawaarij by usermane(m): 6:41am On Aug 09, 2015
grownaira:


Sorry to say all that you wrote appears to be thrash. Backup your claims with known Islamic historic books and don't refer people to britannica, wikipaedia etc. Any dude that knows how to type and use the internet can upload anything.

"Thrash" is a relative term. Beleive what ever pleases you. Most of the claims in my last post are backed by books from traditional Muslim scholars. Perhaps if you develop stronger appetite for research study with history books instead of dwelling constantly on televangelists and lecturers, you won't react so poorly. I am not here to spoonfeed anyone, particularly Nigerians. I have left enough in my last post to motivate personal research and confirmation. Most people only appreaciate what they uncover from personal research, not what is laid bare before them. Am willing to provide references for the few who are open minded about Muslim history. I won't waste my time on the majority who are subjective and fanatical.
Re: A Glimpse Into The Khawaarij by grownaira: 10:56am On Aug 09, 2015
usermane:


"Thrash" is a relative term. Beleive what ever pleases you. Most of the claims in my last post are backed by books from traditional Muslim scholars. Perhaps if you develop stronger appetite for research study with history books instead of dwelling constantly on televangelists and lecturers, you won't react so poorly. I am not here to spoonfeed anyone, particularly Nigerians. I have left enough in my last post to motivate personal research and confirmation. Most people only appreaciate what they uncover from personal research, not what is laid bare before them. Am willing to provide references for the few who are open minded about Muslim history. I won't waste my time on the majority who are subjective and fanatical.

wikipaedia, britanic are what we saw on your post. you know about books from traditional Muslim scholars, so why referring us to wikipaedia and co?

To the best of my knowledge, you, wikipaedia, britanica, etc are no authority when it comes to discussing trivial issues pertaining Islam. Like i said, refer us to known acceptable books, and we take it from dia.

As for your claims as regards to hadith (which is the main reason why i responded to your post in the first place), tell us what the bolded means in the the ayaat below;

''Do not make [your] calling of the Messenger among yourselves as the call of one of you to another. Already Allah knows those of you who slip away, concealed by others. So let those beware who dissent from the Prophet's order, lest fitnah strike them or a painful punishment.''{Qur'an 24:63}.


"No, by your Lord, they do not believe until they submit to your adjudication in all disputes between them, then they do not find themselves oppressed with your decisions and they completely submit." {Qur'an 4:65}

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Re: A Glimpse Into The Khawaarij by usermane(m): 7:26am On Aug 10, 2015
grownaira:


wikipaedia, britanic are what we saw on your post. you know about books from traditional Muslim scholars, so why referring us to wikipaedia and co?

To the best of my knowledge, you, wikipaedia, britanica, etc are no authority when it comes to discussing trivial issues pertaining Islam. Like i said, refer us to known acceptable books, and we take it from dia.

Well, this isn't an Islamic issue but an historical one. Britanicca and Wikipedia while not authorative as far as history is concerned can be a starting point for historical research on internet. I wont be refering you to any book because most likely you wont be able to access these books but you can search on Google Books and there are few pro-traditional Islamic sites I could refer you later on.

As for your claims as regards to hadith (which is the main reason why i responded to your post in the first place), tell us what the bolded means in the the ayaat below;

''Do not make [your] calling of the Messenger among yourselves as the call of one of you to another. Already Allah knows those of you who slip away, concealed by others. So let those beware who dissent from the Prophet's order, lest fitnah strike them or a painful punishment.''{Qur'an 24:63}.


"No, by your Lord, they do not believe until they submit to your adjudication in all disputes between them, then they do not find themselves oppressed with your decisions and they completely submit." {Qur'an 4:65}

Open a separate thread and let us discuss, so we don't derail this thread. And unless you can explain genuinely why Muhammad and his companions failed to compile Hadith Books, you may be wasting our time.
Re: A Glimpse Into The Khawaarij by grownaira: 8:11am On Aug 10, 2015
usermane:


Well, this isn't an Islamic issue but an historical one. Britanicca and Wikipedia while not authorative as far as history is concerned can be a starting point for historical research on internet. I wont be refering you to any book because most likely you wont be able to access these books but you can search on Google Books and there are few pro-traditional Islamic sites I could refer you later on.

Sorry to disagree with you again bro. It is an Islamic issue, since it's a history that is enveloped in Islam. I hardly make reference with the internet. When making a research on the net, any website that gives me any info, no matter how convincing, and it fails to refer me to the books of classical Islamic scholars, I quickly dump the info.

I am a person who is eager to learn new things. You never can tell whether the book(s) you refer me to is in my little personal library, the library of a nearby Masjid, the library of a nearby Islamic learning centre, or the library of a nearby University.

usermane:

Open a separate thread and let us discuss, so we don't derail this thread.

We can discuss and perhaps benefit form the knowledge of many in this thread www.nairaland.com/2515039/defence-hadith-sunnah-evidences-clear

usermane:

And unless you can explain genuinely why Muhammad and his companions failed to compile Hadith Books, you may be wasting our time.

Neither was the prophet Muhammad alive when the Qur'an itself was compiled. So I was thought in primary school.
Re: A Glimpse Into The Khawaarij by Empiree: 12:02pm On Aug 10, 2015
Hey hey hey, usermane again grin

You 2 dey mention prophet's name anyhow without its complete ingredients?

[size=15pt]SalaAllahu Ta'ala Alaiy Wa'ala Aliy Wasalam[/size]


Didn't you raise this issue of Hadith compilation here before - you literally ran away from the thread, isn't.

https://www.nairaland.com/1891161/quranites-quranists-hadith-rejecters/1#down

Now you found another "islamic agent" as you fondly called, to tackle. grin

@ grownaira, be his guest bro

Let me grab my sit. I dey watch while consuming my popcorn grin

Re: A Glimpse Into The Khawaarij by Nadheer15: 4:10pm On Aug 11, 2015
kennyosein:
Waleikum Salam bro,
All praises and thanks belong to Allah who guided us to Islam and the Sunnah, am really proud to meet you too, may Allah continue to guided us on the path of the salaf us saaliheen.

They are large numbers of Salafi brothers here both in the North and South west, am from south west although am temporary residing in the North, Kaduna to precise for now.
Truthpallbearer:
I'm a salafi too residing in Kogi State. We have to unite and spread the dawah of salafiyyah as Shaykh Rabee and others have mentioned. Refuting the ideologies of al-qaida, an-nusra Boko Haram, Daesh, Taliban etc.
Masha'Allah bro, I discovered salafiyyah myself after looking for what to refute extremism with. Alhamdullahi this aqeedah is perfect. I'm from Kwara State(a yoruba to be precise) but reside in Abuja and I think I haven't found any salafi here, but Insha'Allah the Dawah would spread round Nigeria.

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Re: A Glimpse Into The Khawaarij by Nobody: 5:31pm On Aug 11, 2015
Nadheer15:


Masha'Allah bro, I discovered salafiyyah myself after looking for what to refute extremism with. Alhamdullahi this aqeedah is perfect. I'm from Kwara State(a yoruba to be precise) but reside in Abuja and I think I haven't found any salafi here, but Insha'Allah the Dawah would spread round Nigeria.
We are strangers among strangers

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Re: A Glimpse Into The Khawaarij by kennyosein(m): 8:05pm On Aug 11, 2015
May Allaah allow us all to be steadfast upon the path of the salaf us saliheen.

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Re: A Glimpse Into The Khawaarij by usermane(m): 9:30am On Aug 12, 2015
I will list 2 more myths or lies about Khawarij and then list out references.

D. Khawarij killed Uthman bin Affan on accusation of disbeleif

This is highly disputable claim. For one, the word "Khawarij" was first used to define the group from Ali bin Talib 's faction who withdrew their support for Ali. This was after Uthman 's death & thus it stand to reason that Uthman 's killer's were never identified as Khawarij. Uthman 's killers could been of shiis, sunnis or any group fed up with Uthman 's regime. In fact Abu Bakr As Sadik 's son, Muhammad ibn Abu Bakr is cited by historians as one of the slayers of Uthman. He was not a Khawarij.

For two, Uthman was not killed on charges of disbelief. Like Ali, Uthman 's opponents initially demanded Uthman abdicate. Uthman 's refusal to abdicate promoted the killers to strike.


E. Khawarij wage war on Muslims while overlooking non-Muslims

The Khawarij never went attacking and looting properties of Muslims like the Wahhabis/ISIS/Boko Haram/Al Qaida do. Rather, the Khawarij in Muslim history rose several times against corrupt and oppressive regimes of the Ummayad and Abbasid caliphs. And even then, not all Khawarij resorted to insurgency or war against those regimes.

Khawarij rejected the Sunni tradition that a caliph is God 's representative on earth and all his transgression must be tolerated as long as he perform salat. This explains why Khawarij rose against regimes, resulting in Khawarij colliding with soldiers of the regimes who just happen to be Muslims.




References:
For a deeper and less subjective understanding of Khawarij and their history, try;
Essentials of Ibadi Islam, by Valarie J Hoffman
Modern Intellectual Reading of the Khawarij, by Hussam S Timani.

The following books discusses Islamic laws and rituals on broader perspective, making references to sects like Khawarij and their positions on issues like penalty for adultery;
A handbook of Islam: Abridged Edition of Religion of Islam, by Maulana Muhammad Ali
Body of Text: The Emergence of Sunni law of Ritual Purity, by Marion Holimes Katz.


These are historical books on early Muslims that also discussed events leading assassination of Uthman and Ali:
A Restatement of the History of Islam and Muslims, by Sayyid Ali Ashgar.
After the Prophet: The Epic Story of Shia-Sunni Split in Islam, by Lesley Hazleton
Re: A Glimpse Into The Khawaarij by kennyosein(m): 10:40am On Aug 12, 2015
Salam aleikum usermane, the Religion is sincerity, you need to learn the deen properly, the source and what you posted, all shows that you seriously need to learn the deen from the basics anybody can defend and show proof of anything, an atheist claim to have evidences that the Creator does not exist, the christians claims that the Creator is three in one, same applies to other paths of shaitan may Allah cursed be upon him, Oh bro ask Allah for guidance and stop defending what is obvious, sit with a scholar and learn, stop searching the Internet to justify your erroneous points, Muhammad Ibn al-Alâ' told us that Ibn Numayr reported from Mujâlid from Ibn Aamir from Jaabir
that Umar Ibn al-Khattâb brought a copy of the
Torah to the Prophet (peace be upon him) and
said: "O Apostle of God, this is a copy of the
Torah." But [the Prophet] kept silent. Then Umar
started reading and the face of the Prophet kept
changing. So, Abu Bakr interrupted him violently:
"Don't you see the face of the Prophet (peace be
upon him)?" Umar looked at the Prophet's face
and said "May God preserve me from His anger
and from the anger of his Apostle (peace be upon
him), we accepted God as Lord and Islâm as
religion and Muhammad as prophet." Then the
Prophet (peace be upon him) said: "By the One
Who owns Muhammad's soul, if Moses (peace be
upon him) appeared to you and you followed him
and left me, you would go astray from the right
path and if he were alive and reached [the time
of] my prophethood he would have followed me."

Abdullah bin 'Abbas said, "O the group of Muslims! How can you ask the people of the Scriptures about anything while your Book which Allah has revealed to your Prophet contains the most recent news from Allah and is pure and not distorted? Allah has told you that the people of the Scriptures have changed some of Allah's Books and distorted it and wrote something with you their own hands and said, 'This is from Allah, so as to have a minor gain for it. Won't the knowledge that has come to you stop you from asking them? No, by Allah, we have never seen a man from them asking you about that (the Book Al-Qur'an) which has been revealed to you.
Sahih Bukhari, Volume 009, Book 093, Hadith
Number 614. This was a warning against Muslims who ask the people of scripture about Islam. You even quote from kuffars, from their source, you can believe in the sayings of the kuffars with no chain of transmission but you denied the sayings of the Prophet's peace be upon him with saheeh isnaad, Oh bro fear Allah note that anything you post here will either bring the people closer/farther to the deen. May Allah increase us in faith.

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Re: A Glimpse Into The Khawaarij by grownaira: 11:13am On Aug 12, 2015
kennyosein:
Salam aleikum usermane, the Religion is sincerity, you need to learn the deen properly, the source and what you posted, all shows that you seriously need to learn the deen from the basics anybody can defend and show proof of anything, an atheist claim to have evidences that the Creator does not exist, the christians claims that the Creator is three in one, same applies to other paths of shaitan may Allah cursed be upon him, Oh bro ask Allah for guidance and stop defending what is obvious, sit with a scholar and learn, stop searching the Internet to justify your erroneous points, Muhammad Ibn al-Alâ' told us that Ibn Numayr reported from Mujâlid from Ibn Aamir from Jaabir
that Umar Ibn al-Khattâb brought a copy of the
Torah to the Prophet (peace be upon him) and
said: "O Apostle of God, this is a copy of the
Torah." But [the Prophet] kept silent. Then Umar
started reading and the face of the Prophet kept
changing. So, Abu Bakr interrupted him violently:
"Don't you see the face of the Prophet (peace be
upon him)?" Umar looked at the Prophet's face
and said "May God preserve me from His anger
and from the anger of his Apostle (peace be upon
him), we accepted God as Lord and Islâm as
religion and Muhammad as prophet." Then the
Prophet (peace be upon him) said: "By the One
Who owns Muhammad's soul, if Moses (peace be
upon him) appeared to you and you followed him
and left me, you would go astray from the right
path and if he were alive and reached [the time
of] my prophethood he would have followed me."

Abdullah bin 'Abbas said, "O the group of Muslims! How can you ask the people of the Scriptures about anything while your Book which Allah has revealed to your Prophet contains the most recent news from Allah and is pure and not distorted? Allah has told you that the people of the Scriptures have changed some of Allah's Books and distorted it and wrote something with you their own hands and said, 'This is from Allah, so as to have a minor gain for it. Won't the knowledge that has come to you stop you from asking them? No, by Allah, we have never seen a man from them asking you about that (the Book Al-Qur'an) which has been revealed to you.
Sahih Bukhari, Volume 009, Book 093, Hadith
Number 614. This was a warning against Muslims who ask the people of scripture about Islam. You even quote from kuffars, from their source, you can believe in the sayings of the kuffars with no chain of transmission but you denied the sayings of the Prophet's peace be upon him with saheeh isnaad, Oh bro fear Allah note that anything you post here will either bring the people closer/farther to the deen. May Allah increase us in faith.

Thanks for this bro. Was just about to do same. The funny fellow claims to have evidences from traditional Islamic scholars, and all we see here are what he once advice someone in an earlier post to stay away from.

As we pray to Allah to guide us to the straight and right path, we also pray that He save us from following our whims and caprices.

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