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Re: Tinubu: Repeating Mistakes Of Afonja, Awolowo, Abiola, Diya By Ralph Egbu by EastLebanon(m): 8:58pm On Aug 10, 2015
Hmmm,those fulanis are small but great,they conquered a whole hausa tribe and also the yorubas,one crafty thing about them is anywhere they conquers they forms emirate there and install a fulani as the ruler(emir)

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Re: Tinubu: Repeating Mistakes Of Afonja, Awolowo, Abiola, Diya By Ralph Egbu by truefact: 8:58pm On Aug 10, 2015
Yorubas is has this or that...my question is..WHY haven't yorubas use their suffercation to dislodge the Hausa-Fulani from being the owners of Nigeria?

Yorubas are nothing....Why can't yorubas compare themselves with Hausa-Fulani? Yorubas claim to be the most progressthieves and suffercated, yet they are slaves to Hausa-Fulani...

Mind you, igbos are dislodged by a combined forces which includes the yorubas and Hausa-Fulani. ...if the civil was only btween igbo and Hausa-Fulani or Igbos and yorubas, I tell you Igbos will win any day and any time....yoruba are true cowards...

Igbos are like one man fighting again many men...
Yorubas March Hausa-Fulani man to man, stop being cowards

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Re: Tinubu: Repeating Mistakes Of Afonja, Awolowo, Abiola, Diya By Ralph Egbu by VirginFinder: 9:09pm On Aug 10, 2015
Macelliot:

He who has ear, let him hear!

Why do you ibos like cooking up imaginary regrets for Yorubas. Why do you guys like using Panadol for Yorubas' headache?
Closecall:
Tinubu: Repeating mistakes of Afonja, Awolowo, Abiola, Diya 4
BY OUR REPORTER ON AUGUST 9, 2015 BACK PAGE / COLUMNS, RALPH EGBU
Peoples’ parliament
BY OGBONNAYA WILLIAMS
One of the tragedies of the Bourbon ruling class of France after Waterloo of June 18, 1815, was that they came back to power, having learnt and forgotten nothing. They came back to power in France and continued to repeat the same mistakes that gave birth to the rise of Napoleon Bonaparte and other characteristics of the era. This appears to be true of some per­sonalities in Yoruba history, who saw themselves as the messiahs of their era, but ended up disillusioned. They never got what they wanted because they were propelled by ego, blind hatred and illusions of what they wanted to achieve. This is the same with Alhaji Ahmed Bola Tinubu, who has erroneously been dressed in the robe of a political giant, when ordi­narily he is a political opportunist, masquerading and praying to be ad­dressed as Asiwaju Yorubaland.
He has got the first baptism of fire at the Senate where Senator Bukola Saraki emerged as Senate President. Tinubu wanted to have the Vice Presi­dency and Speaker of the House of Representatives in the Buhari presi­dency. What an illusion! The political amalgam that became the All Progres­sives Congress, APC, which Tinubu, no doubt was the midwife, would soon be the Achilles heel for his political ha­rakiri. The 3rd Republic Senator and former Lagos State governor will soon regret to have made the mistake of his life with the formation of APC. This was the mistake made by Afonja of Ilorin, who, as the Aare Onakanfanfo of Yorubaland, developed a morbid hatred for the reigning Alaafin of Oyo, his boss and emperor of the old Oyo Empire. Tinubu’s hatred for President Goodluck Jonathan was unparralled.

Tinubu didn't get the Speakership slot because another Yoruba man for the North Central, Bukola Saraki, had clinched the Senate Presidency.
It would have been too much for one ethnic group to hold nos 2, 3 and 4.
Even at that, his man, Femi Gbaja, lost by only 8 votes (174 - 182). Please how many Yorubas are there in the House of Reps?
Eventually, the SW got both Deputy Speaker and House Leader at the expense of ibos getting a paltry deputy whip position.
I think that is consolatory enough.
If you are in doubt as to Bukola Saraki's ethnic group, this what a core northerner, Dr Junaid Mohammed, has to say (focus on the bolded):

Three days after his inauguration, President Muhammadu Buhari has not been able to make key appointments due to a crisis of confidence that has pitted him against power blocs in the ruling All Progressives Congress (APC). This has made the National Coordinator of the Concerned Northern Professional Forum (CNPF), Dr. Mohammed Junaid, to accuse a section of the APC leadership of trying to arm-twist Buhari to make some appointments against his wish. He accused the APC of trying to use zoning to hold Buhari captive, saying resorting to allotting positions on zonal basis is inimical to good governance.

The president, which on Sunday named Managing Director, Sun Newspapers, Mr. Femi Adesina and head of media of his campaign organisation, Mallam Garba Shehu, as spokesmen, is yet to unveil names of Secretary to the Government of the Federation (SGF) and Chief of Staff, among others.

But New Telegraph learnt that intense pressure, as well as insistence on certain government positions from intra-party and regional power blocs, might have stalled further announcements of sensitive appointments by Buhari. “There is more to what you think, the president is not keeping the party guessing, rather, a brewing cold war has to be stemmed from getting out of hand”, an insider said yesterday. It was gathered that some powerful Northern power brokers had impressed it on the president to restrict his search for the headship of certain sensitive positions to the region.

The source, a member of the APC Board of Trustees (BoT) caucus, listed some of such positions to that of the SGF, Chief of Staff, National Security Adviser (NSA) and the headship of the Federal Ministry of Finance. He said some young, but powerful confidants of the president had drawn up a list of such positions with the support of certain influential power brokers from the North. “We fear if the president can say no to such persons under the present circumstances,” he added. He said a delegation of some influential Northerners had handed over what he called an ‘A’ list to the president.

“When you say the president as a person is keeping the party guessing, I laugh. In fairness to him, it is not true because we know as a matter of fact that some powerful leaders of the party from the North have insisted on certain key appointments. “Looking at their arguments for such, you will also agree that they might be right to say yes, we need to have these this time around because in whatev-er we do, once precedence has been set, it becomes difficult to fault when successive actions in similar light come to the fore.

“For instance, when today they insist on having the NSA, CBN governor, SGF, COS and even the Minister of Finance, you don’t have to blame them because right from the days of Obasanjo till Jonathan, we have come to realise that these appointments had at one time or the other, resided in a section of the country before. “In fact, there was a time former President Jonathan had his NSA, CoS and Finance Minister all from the South-South. So the issue is not just the president keeping the party leadership guessing, but what is at hand is how we will stem a brewing cold war within us to get out of hand into open confrontation.

“The truth remains that to say no, or simply ignore the demands presented by this group of our colleagues from the North will only be insensitive, that is why we are trying to explore more diplomatic means of concession to one another,” he said. It could not be immediately confirmed if the move by the Forum of Northern States’ Secretaries to Governments to endorse one of their own, the Secretary to Borno State Government, Ambassador Baba Ahmed Jidda, for the position of SGF was in line with the push as disclosed by the party top shot.

The forum, in a letter to Buhari and signed by the Coordinator of the Forum and former SSG of Niger State, Hon. Saidu Ndako Idris Kpaki, said the recommendation was part of their contribution to support the new administration to succeed in its quest to improve the lives of Nigerians. The position of the forum had raised curiosity; especially following reports that a founding leader of the APC, Dr Ogbonnaya Onu, was being considered for the job. For the positions of the NSA and CoS, erstwhile Chief of Army Staff, Lt. Gen. Abdurrahman Dambazau and Col Hammed Ali, all retired, are the prime candidates likely to get the jobs.

But New Telegraph gathered that on the cards for the positions of Finance Minister is Dr Tanimu Yakubu Kurfi, who was Chief Economic Adviser to the late President Umaru Musa Yar’Adua. But Junaid, who clarified that he was not speaking for the North, said the APC should be blamed for any crisis and delay over appointments by the president. He alleged that with the zoning of offices, the APC was already holding Buhari hostage. He said: “First and foremost, I have never claimed to be speaking for the North; my attitude has always been what is good for the nation.
Having said that, I think the APC is creating a problem for President Buhari by this zoning mantra. “Basically, I think it is because the party allowed crooks and counterproductive elements from the PDP to join its fold and these persons have now brought in this idea of zoning, which I think is very inimical to good governance. “For instance, the position of the SGF is a very sensitive office and it is the engine room of the government; the head of government must be allowed to pick whoever he feels is best suitable for the job.

When former President Obasanjo picked Chief Ufot Ekaette, it was believed that he picked out of merit and not zoning, so the APC should not try to impose any useless zoning on the president. “The same goes for other offices such as the CBN governor, NSA and all that, including the now annoying jostle for the position of the Senate president.

“Nigerians should be wary of those who want to plant seeds of discord that will cause confusion in the early life of this administration because from the way things are going, if care is not taken, leadership of the Senate might be in the hands of the same ethnic group that has grabbed the vice-presidency; that same ethnic group wants to be speaker of the House of Representatives. But I can bet you, it will not be allowed to happen in this country because we know ourselves.” But reacting to the allegation that the APC was holding the president hostage, the party’s National Publicity Secretary, Alhaji Lai Mohammed, said such a statement should be ignored. “Please ignore such statements; it is too early to give prominence to statements that will not help this administration,” he said.

Source: https://www.nairaland.com/2352188/appointment-apc-holding-buhari-hostage



Afonja invited the Fulani jihadist, Alimi, whom he joined up with and destroyed the old Oyo Empire. He thought he would free himself from the influence and power of the Alaafin. The duo on getting back to Ilorin, af­ter the destruction of old Oyo town­ship and empire, Alimi taught Afonja the lesson of his life. Ilorin became an Emirate with Afonja killed. The Muslim Fulanis took over Ilorin land, where till date 95 per cent of the Yor­uba population is ruled by less than 5 pwer cent Fulanis.

Afonja destroyed the Oyo empire? The writer must be a goat and dullard! Afonja was only able to secede successfully from the Oyo empire with the help of Alimi. That's all.
When Alimi and co attempted to go beyond Ilorin, southwards, they were overwhelmingly beaten so much so that they never made a second attempt.
The Yorubas have successfully assimilated whatever can be regarded has Fulani in Ilorin. Even the emir used to be Kolapo.
Ilorin remains Yorubaland with a figurehead emir. Traditional rulers have no power! Hence, the real power lies in the hands of the political class which is firmly in the hands of the Yorubas.

Governor Mohammed Lawal, the ANPP Governor of Kwara State (1999- 2003) an Afonja descendent who thought he could force the Fulani’s to retreat and re-write the 200-years old history of the emirate was shoved aside by the Olooye himself, Senator Abuba­kar Olusola Saraki, a Yorubanised Fu­lani. Lawal’s elevation of the Baloguns of Ilorin to Obaship status, (including his father), was reversed by Governor Bukola Saraki.

Mohammed Lawal fell out with his godfather, Olusola Saraki, during his first tenure. This cost him the second term.
Hence, whatever step he took was reversed in annoyance. That he made his father an Oba made it even worse.

Chief Obafemi Awolowo repeated the same mistake of Afonja during the Nigerian Civil war (1967-1970). When the then Lt. Colonel Yakubu Gowon came to power on August 1st, 1966, one of the first things he did was to re­lease Awolowo from prison. Realizing that he could not consolidate his grip on power without the backing of the Yoruba, Gowon promptly constituted a Federal Executive Council domi­nated by some of Awos-prewar allies like Joseph Tarka, Aminu Kano and Chief Anthony Enahoro etc. Gowon made Awolowo the Vice-Chairman of the Federal Executive Council and Federal Commissioner for Finance, a position that was equivalent of the position of Prime Minister of Nigeria, which Awolowo had been dreaming of all his life.
Having used Awolowo to vanquish the people of former Eastern Nigeria (Biafrans) Awolowo thought that be­coming the Prime Minister of Nigeria could be his by mere asking for it from those he served during the war (the Northern establishment) as soon as the war ended. Lo, that was never to be as he clearly saw the handwriting on the wall.
Early in 1971, Chief Jeremiah Obafemi Awolowo, to the consterna­tion of his people, resigned from Gow­on’s cabinet. Awolowo’s attempt to be President of Nigeria in 1979 and 1983 through his UPN failed. Neither Chief Philip Umeadi nor Alhaji Mohammed Kura (his running mates) could get him the Igbo or Northern votes in the two elections. Four years after 1983 (1987) Awolowo died, a frustrated man even though he was described as the best President Nigeria never had.

Awolowo did his best and placed we Yorubas on such a high, unique pedestal in the Nigerian state that other tribes, especially in the south, forever envy, lust, long for, look forward and struggle to attain and which has and will always elude them. The ibos have been at the forefront of trying to measure up to the Yorubas.

After all said and done, Awolowo was awarded a post-homous GCFR, a title held by only Heads of State. Of all the indigenous founding fathers of the Nigerian state, his family remains the most successful and relevant in modern-day Nigeria. Zik, once ceremonial president, has been found worthy of being awarded a post-homous GCFR.

I bet you, Zik, whereever he is, will be envying Awolowo and his achievements.


The late MKO Abiola, made the same mistake of Afonja and Awolowo during the 2nd Republic. Abiola in 1980 floated the Concord Group of Newspapers to fight the Tribune group owned by Obafemi Awolowo, in the Western states of Nigeria. He financed and bankrolled the National Party of Nigeria in Ogun State and other Odua states. Concord Press Nigeria Limited Group of newspapers fought and ex­posed Awolowo’s 1000 plots of land deal in Maroko. Having or thinking he had served the Northern establishment enough, in 1982, Umaru Dikko told Abiola to his face that Nigeria (North­ern) presidency was not for the highest bidder. In anger, Abiola resigned from the NPN and said good-bye to Nige­rian politics.
In 1993, Abiola, now the darling of Yorubas and Nigeria though he was ripe for Nigerian presidency was de­nied the victory of June 12, which is now a recurring point in the country’s history. His friend, Ibrahim Babangida and the Northern establishment denied him the Presidency, even when Abiola was a Muslim like them. Again, Abiola in November 18, 1993, was the first to go to Dodan Barracks to congratulate Sani Abacha for sacking his brother, Ernest Shonekan. Abiola even nomi­nated Ministers, with such Progres­sives as Lateef Jakande, Baba Gana Kingibe, Ebenezer Babatope, etc into Sani Abacha’s first cabinet. Abiola had the false belief that Abacha would hand over to him after one year. After a year, June 1994, Abiola made his fa­mous Epetedo Declaration, which led his detention by Abacha until July 8, 1998, when Abiola mysteriously died after drinking tea in the presence of Americans.

Abiola and Babangida may have had a personal axe to grind. Rumours have it that Abiola may have at swindled IBB of Samuel Doe's loot placed in his trust and at some point straffed Mariam.

Even then, Abiola outlived Abacha and died a hero.

Obasanjo reaped where Abiola sowed. Obasanjo would never have been president had Abiola been president.

Didn't GEJ even benefit from Abiola's struggle in the very long run?

So what is your point?

The foxy General Sani Abacha when he seized power in 1993, el­evated or demoted General Oladipo Diya as Chief of General Staff from position of Chief of Defence Staff to consolidate his grip on power. Very soon, Diya, acting his master’s script, used the Federal might to batter the NADECO, Afenifere, Odua Move­ment and other real Progressives of the Yoruba struggle. Tinubu even went on exile.
Soon after, Diya bankrolled the ac­tivities of the Imeri Group as Dr. Bode Olajumoke’s home in Imeri, at the periphery of Ondo state soon became the political Mecca and centre of Yor­uba politics. Diya even facilitated the Yoruba man’s position in the emerg­ing UNCP, which was begging Aba­cha among five leprous fingers of the same hand (apology to Bola Ige) to be their presidential candidate. Seeing that he would have no place in Abacha’s transmutation in a civilian presidency, Diya wanted to be clever through coup plotting. He almost paid with his head, thanks to expiration of General Sanni Abacha on June 8, 1998 in controver­sial circumstance.

Diya also outlived Abacha and he is doing quite well today.

With the failure of ACN, CPC and ANPP to wrest power from Goodluck Jonathan in 2011, Ahmed Bola Tinubu threw in everything and convinced all the others to dissolve and form the APC, which was meant to have Gen­eral Muhammadu Buhari achieve his ambition to be Nigerian Head of State once again.
Sooner than later, Tinubu would re­alize that the real owners of APC from the North would emerge. They will as Alimi did to Afonja in 1830 Ilorin. At the first post-election convention of the APC, this year, Tinubu would no longer be the National Leader of APC, while such paperweights as Odigie- Oyegun and Lai Mohammed will be swept aside. History, it is said, repeats itself. What can Tinubu manipulate with four APC controlled states in the southwest, while 16 Northern APC states, Imo and Edo states are not un­der his control.
This article is a reaction to the discourse titled “Let Saraki, Ekweremadu and Dogara be” which was published on this page on Sunday July 19, 2014.

Tinubu did what he had to do to save the nation from impending doom.
He is a hero with a lot of foresight.
Another four years of GEJ would have led to the demise of this nation.
Today, Nigeria is beginning to work again. It's no more business as usual.
Tinubu is set to emerge as the Chairman of the APC BOT. Buhari has also mended fences with him.
Courtesy of Tinubu, Yorubas occupy positions no 2, 3, 6, Senate Chief Whip(yet to be occupied) and House Leader
So what is your headache?

You ibos should go and lick your sores jor. According to Orji Uzor Kalu (2013), you are third-rate Nigerians.

Yorubas are just too sophisticated and complicated for you all to comprehend or understand.

Once again, you ibos should stop cooking up imaginary regrets for we Yorubas to cover up for your senseless wailing.

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Re: Tinubu: Repeating Mistakes Of Afonja, Awolowo, Abiola, Diya By Ralph Egbu by VirginFinder: 9:11pm On Aug 10, 2015
truefact:
[s]Yorubas is has this or that...my question is..WHY haven't yorubas use their suffercation to dislodge the Hausa-Fulani from being the owners of Nigeria?

Yorubas are nothing....Why can't yorubas compare themselves with Hausa-Fulani? Yorubas claim to be the most progressthieves and suffercated, yet they are slaves to Hausa-Fulani...

Mind you, igbos are dislodged by a combined forces which includes the yorubas and Hausa-Fulani. ...if the civil was only btween igbo and Hausa-Fulani or Igbos and yorubas, I tell you Igbos will win any day and any time....yoruba are true cowards...

Igbos are like one man fighting again many men...
Yorubas March Hausa-Fulani man to man, stop being cowards[/s]

You are a dullard!

Read my post above.

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Re: Tinubu: Repeating Mistakes Of Afonja, Awolowo, Abiola, Diya By Ralph Egbu by VirginFinder: 9:13pm On Aug 10, 2015
EastLebanon:
[s]Hmmm,those fulanis are small but great,they conquered a whole hausa tribe and also the yorubas,one crafty thing about them is anywhere they conquers they forms emirate there and install a fulani as the ruler(emir)[/s]

You are a dullard!
Where and when did Fulanis conquer Yorubas?

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Re: Tinubu: Repeating Mistakes Of Afonja, Awolowo, Abiola, Diya By Ralph Egbu by Nobody: 9:14pm On Aug 10, 2015
The height of Yoruba sophisticated political confusion grin grin

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Re: Tinubu: Repeating Mistakes Of Afonja, Awolowo, Abiola, Diya By Ralph Egbu by Nobody: 9:15pm On Aug 10, 2015
VirginFinder:


You are a dullard!
Where and when did Fulanis conquer Yorubas?

At the start of the 19th century Ilorin was a border town in the northeast of the Oyo Empire, with a mainly Yoruba population but with many Hausa-Fulani immigrants or slaves.

It (Ilorin) was the headquarters of an Oyo General, Afonja, who rebelled against the empire and helped bring about its collapse with the assistance of the Fulani.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ilorin_Emirate

(so this Yoruba treachery did not start today shocked shocked)

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Re: Tinubu: Repeating Mistakes Of Afonja, Awolowo, Abiola, Diya By Ralph Egbu by omoelesa(m): 9:16pm On Aug 10, 2015
hinwazaka:
List of the most disastrous leaders our nation never had
* Awolowo: regional totalitarian and ethnic bigot

* Samuel Akintola: greed and recklessness

* Gen Ogundipe: cowardice and incompetence

* Mko- Greed, financial recklessness, financial misappropriation, ethnic bigot
* Olu falae: small minded, local champion, weak support base, inferior character
* Gani Fawehmi: political illiterate, weak support base, small minded, leadership incapacity
* Tinubu: Ethnic bigot, dirty track record, financial recklessness, financial misappropriation, poor political coordination, leadership incapacity

The greatest leader that have ever come out your cursed land was ojukwu, we all know how he foolishly led millions of your brothers to their death, without achieving any damn about biafra .a part from ojukwu ur tribe is just as leaderles as bunch of blind men.

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Re: Tinubu: Repeating Mistakes Of Afonja, Awolowo, Abiola, Diya By Ralph Egbu by VirginFinder: 9:18pm On Aug 10, 2015
emmalexabl:
[s]The destiny of fulanis and yorubas are tied together and shall forever remain so.
One is meant to be a slave while the other is the master....[/s]

You are a dullard!
The slave is the one who cannot occupy the highest office in the land no matter how hard he tries.
Yoruba and Fulani have both had the presidency. So who could the slave be?

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Re: Tinubu: Repeating Mistakes Of Afonja, Awolowo, Abiola, Diya By Ralph Egbu by Nobody: 9:19pm On Aug 10, 2015
VirginFinder:


You are a dullard!
The slave is the one who cannot occupy the highest office in the land no matter how hard he tries.
Yoruba and Fulani have both had the presidency. So who could the slave be?
The slave is the one that needs crude oil from SS to finance the government

(even when crude oil prices are falling by the minute)

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Re: Tinubu: Repeating Mistakes Of Afonja, Awolowo, Abiola, Diya By Ralph Egbu by VirginFinder: 9:21pm On Aug 10, 2015
imhotep:


[s]At the start of the 19th century Ilorin was a border town in the northeast of the Oyo Empire, with a mainly Yoruba population but with many Hausa-Fulani immigrants or slaves.

It (Ilorin) was the headquarters of an Oyo General, Afonja, who rebelled against the empire and helped bring about its collapse with the assistance of the Fulani.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ilorin_Emirate

(so this Yoruba treachery did not start today shocked shocked)[/s]

That is very inaccurate!
Afonja was only able to secede from the Oyo empire successfully with the help of the Fulani.
The Oyo empire collapsed much later after the Egba also seceded from them.

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Re: Tinubu: Repeating Mistakes Of Afonja, Awolowo, Abiola, Diya By Ralph Egbu by Nobody: 9:23pm On Aug 10, 2015
VirginFinder:


That is very inaccurate!
Afonja was only able to secede from the Oyo empire successfully with the help of the Fulani.
The Oyo empire collapsed much later after the Egba also seceded from them.
^ quote sources, otherwise you are spreading rumors.

Diaris god oh.
Re: Tinubu: Repeating Mistakes Of Afonja, Awolowo, Abiola, Diya By Ralph Egbu by VirginFinder: 9:25pm On Aug 10, 2015
imhotep:

[s]The slave is the one that needs crude oil from SS to finance the government

(even when crude oil prices are falling by the minute)[/s]

Wrong!
The slave is the one whose resources are being used to run the nation and can't do anything about it but wail and wail and wail.

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Re: Tinubu: Repeating Mistakes Of Afonja, Awolowo, Abiola, Diya By Ralph Egbu by truefact: 9:26pm On Aug 10, 2015
VirginFinder:


You are a dullard!

Read my post above.
You are an ostrich. .you and your tribe is the real definition of Dullard with Capital D
Re: Tinubu: Repeating Mistakes Of Afonja, Awolowo, Abiola, Diya By Ralph Egbu by VirginFinder: 9:26pm On Aug 10, 2015
imhotep:

[s]^ quote sources, otherwise you are spreading rumors.

Diaris god oh.[/s]

No time!
Everyone knows Wikipedia is very inaccurate.
I have read loads of Yoruba history books.

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Re: Tinubu: Repeating Mistakes Of Afonja, Awolowo, Abiola, Diya By Ralph Egbu by Nobody: 9:28pm On Aug 10, 2015
VirginFinder:


Wrong!
The slave is the one whose resources are being used to run the nation and can't do anything about it but wail and wail and wail.
How can you run a non-existent nation on stolen resources grin grin grin, and still claim to be in power.
See how slavery has warped your thinking.

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Re: Tinubu: Repeating Mistakes Of Afonja, Awolowo, Abiola, Diya By Ralph Egbu by Nobody: 9:29pm On Aug 10, 2015
VirginFinder:


No time!
Everyone knows Wikipedia is very inaccurate.
I have read loads of Yoruba history books.
Wikipedia cites books and other websites.
It is more reliable than your arbitrary nairaland rumors

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Re: Tinubu: Repeating Mistakes Of Afonja, Awolowo, Abiola, Diya By Ralph Egbu by VirginFinder: 9:29pm On Aug 10, 2015
truefact:

[s]You are an ostrich. .you and your tribe is the real definition of Dullard with Capital D[/s]

Ode!
Read my post and go and sleep in envy, jealousy and bitterness.

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Re: Tinubu: Repeating Mistakes Of Afonja, Awolowo, Abiola, Diya By Ralph Egbu by truefact: 9:30pm On Aug 10, 2015
VirginFinder:


You are a dullard!
The slave is the one who cannot occupy the highest office in the land no matter how hard he tries.
Yoruba and Fulani have both had the presidency. So who could the slave be?
Read my post fuulish ostrich. ...we agreed igbos are been dislodged. Now, why are you also playing the slavish slave? Are you no more suffercated? Why cant you use your suffercation to dislodge the North and become number one? It is ashame, that you are nothing in the equation. ...
Igbos are dislodged by north,.now where do you stand in the equation ? You simply nobody...
Hausa-Fulani never considered you as somebody, hence they don't feel bothered about you...you are cowards who can't fight for anything except making noise.

I always hear igbos agenda this and that. I also hear Northern agenda this and that, but i never heard yoruba agenda even for once....what you do cowards stand for?

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Re: Tinubu: Repeating Mistakes Of Afonja, Awolowo, Abiola, Diya By Ralph Egbu by VirginFinder: 9:31pm On Aug 10, 2015
imhotep:

[s]Wikipedia cites books and other websites.
It is more reliable than your arbitrary nairaland rumors[/s]

I said, I have read enough Yoruba history books. I know Yoruba history in and out.
Anybody can edit Wikipedia including you.
Information on Wikipedia change by the minute.

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Re: Tinubu: Repeating Mistakes Of Afonja, Awolowo, Abiola, Diya By Ralph Egbu by Nobody: 9:32pm On Aug 10, 2015
VirginFinder:


That is very inaccurate!
Afonja was only able to secede from the Oyo empire successfully with the help of the Fulani.
The Oyo empire collapsed much later after the Egba also seceded from them.
So Afonja enslaved himself to gambari so many years ago.

Now I can understand the roots of Yoruba slavery grin grin grin

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Re: Tinubu: Repeating Mistakes Of Afonja, Awolowo, Abiola, Diya By Ralph Egbu by hinwazaka: 9:33pm On Aug 10, 2015
omoelesa:
The greatest leader that have ever come out your cursed land was ojukwu, we all know how he foolishly lead millions of your brothers to their death, without achieving any damn about biafra .a part from ojukwu ur tribe is just as leaderles as bunch of blind men.
You are spot on in your description of Ojukwu's character. Its a win that he too never got the chance to lead this nation or any one for that matter. But that does not exonerate the incapacity of the men listed to lead. My analysis is not directed or meant as an insult to any region.
Re: Tinubu: Repeating Mistakes Of Afonja, Awolowo, Abiola, Diya By Ralph Egbu by VirginFinder: 9:34pm On Aug 10, 2015
truefact:

[s]Read my post fuulish ostrich. ...we are agreed igbos are been dislodged. Now, why are you also playing the slavish slave? Are you no more suffercated? Why cant you use your suffercation to dislodge the North and become number one? It is ashame, that you are nothing in the equation. ...
Igbos are dislodged by north,.now do you stand? You simply nobody...
Hausa-Fulani never considered as somebody, hence they don't feel bothered about you...[/s]

You are a dullard!

We Yorubas believe in turn by turn.

We were number 1 between 1999 and 2007.

Very soon, we shall be number 1 again.

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Re: Tinubu: Repeating Mistakes Of Afonja, Awolowo, Abiola, Diya By Ralph Egbu by Nobody: 9:34pm On Aug 10, 2015
VirginFinder:


I said, I have read enough Yoruba history books. I know Yoruba history in and out.
Anybody can edit Wikipedia including you.
Information on Wikipedia change by the minute.
Cite the books you read, give page numbers and all.
Until then, na rumors you dey spread

Besides, it is already a BIG SHAME that Afonja helped to decimate the Oyo Empire.
Why was he so treacherous?
Re: Tinubu: Repeating Mistakes Of Afonja, Awolowo, Abiola, Diya By Ralph Egbu by truefact: 9:37pm On Aug 10, 2015
VirginFinder:


You are a dullard!

We Yorubas believe in turn by turn.

We were number 1 between 1999 and 2007.

Very soon, we shall be number 1 again.

Read my post fuulish ostrich. ...we agreed igbos are been dislodged. Now, why are you also playing the slavish slave? Are you no more suffercated? Why cant you use your suffercation to dislodge the North and become number one? It is ashame, that you are nothing in the equation. ...
Igbos are dislodged by north,.now where do you stand in the equation ? You simply nobody...
Hausa-Fulani never considered you as somebody, hence they don't feel bothered about you...you are cowards who can't fight for anything except making noise.

I always hear Igbos agenda this and that. I also hear Northern agenda this and that, but i never heard yoruba agenda even for once....what you do cowards stand for?

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Re: Tinubu: Repeating Mistakes Of Afonja, Awolowo, Abiola, Diya By Ralph Egbu by VirginFinder: 9:38pm On Aug 10, 2015
imhotep:

[s]So Afonja enslaved himself to gambari so many years ago.

Now I can understand the roots of Yoruba slavery grin grin grin[/s]

He sought the assistance of the Fulani and got it.
He had his kingdom and everything was okay until Alimi died and the alliance turned sour. While Alimi was alive, the going was good. With no Oyo empire to fall back to, he was at the mercy of the Fulani who promptly murdered him.

Now how does that affect the larger Yoruba ethnic group?

I repeat, the slave the one who cannot rule this country.

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Re: Tinubu: Repeating Mistakes Of Afonja, Awolowo, Abiola, Diya By Ralph Egbu by Nobody: 9:40pm On Aug 10, 2015
VirginFinder:

With no Oyo empire to fall back to, he was at the mercy of the Fulani who promptly murdered him.
So Afonja's self-enslavement did not pay off.

Now all of his descendants are mindlessly reciting Arabic and 1mbecilically shouting "allahu akbar"

choi . . .

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Re: Tinubu: Repeating Mistakes Of Afonja, Awolowo, Abiola, Diya By Ralph Egbu by VirginFinder: 9:42pm On Aug 10, 2015
truefact:


[s]Read my post fuulish ostrich. ...we agreed igbos are been dislodged. Now, why are you also playing the slavish slave? Are you no more suffercated? Why cant you use your suffercation to dislodge the North and become number one? It is ashame, that you are nothing in the equation. ...
Igbos are dislodged by north,.now where do you stand in the equation ? You simply nobody...
Hausa-Fulani never considered you as somebody, hence they don't feel bothered about you...you are cowards who can't fight for anything except making noise.

I always hear Igbos agenda this and that. I also hear Northern agenda this and that, but i never heard yoruba agenda even for once....what you do cowards stand for?[/s]

Yorubas are okay with a working Nigeria. That is our agenda. Tinubu and Yorubas by God's grace have made it happen using Buhari.

What else? The presidency? I said, we shall have it soon.

So what are you crying about again.

Dullard!

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Re: Tinubu: Repeating Mistakes Of Afonja, Awolowo, Abiola, Diya By Ralph Egbu by Nobody: 9:44pm On Aug 10, 2015
Tinubu is senseless if he thinks after Buhari power will go to the West



The SS/SE will rather support the North ruling forever than support a Yoruba ascending to the post of presidency


Mark my words



Tinubu's end will be quite disastrous compare to Afonja Awo Mko and Diya



VirginFinder:

You are a dullard!
We Yorubas believe in turn by turn.
We were number 1 between 1999 and 2007.
Very soon, we shall be number 1 again.
Seunjungle:
The facts I got from this post are envy and feeling of pains of the last general election and the Yorubas contribution during the exercise. In the history of Nigeria politics Yoruba has never be in Igbo support right from the days of Nigeria independence.... Yes...Yoruba can never support such a movement which I can call IGBO Selfish reasons. In Nigeria today Yoruba has great influence on Nigeria polity which Igbo is envy today. Whether you agree to it or not, Asiwaju has made the history on his struggles to send PDP away in Nigeria...bravo! And more is still coming from Tinubu.
omoelesa:
The greatest leader that have ever come out your cursed land was ojukwu, we all know how he foolishly lead millions of your brothers to their death, without achieving any damn about biafra .a part from ojukwu ur tribe is just as leaderles as bunch of blind men.

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Re: Tinubu: Repeating Mistakes Of Afonja, Awolowo, Abiola, Diya By Ralph Egbu by truefact: 9:44pm On Aug 10, 2015
VirginFinder:


He sought the assistance of the Fulani and got it.
He had his kingdom and everything was okay until Alimi died and the alliance turned sour. While Alimi was alive, the going was good. With no Oyo empire to fall back to, he was at the mercy of the Fulani who promptly murdered him.

Now how does that affect the larger Yoruba ethnic group?

I repeat, the slave the one who cannot rule this country.


You are slaves....they can murder you at will and nothing will happen....you nothing to them....they use as tools....they you presidency to hold for them and collect it will....yoeubas are servant to the north.....igbos are not servants, hence they wont give igbo the presidency to hold for them at wills...

As you can see we have always be fighting for our freedom. ..yes, we understand, the British hand over the country to the north ..but fuulish yorubas will always be servants instead of being their own masters

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Re: Tinubu: Repeating Mistakes Of Afonja, Awolowo, Abiola, Diya By Ralph Egbu by Nobody: 9:45pm On Aug 10, 2015
VirginFinder:


Yorubas are okay with a working Nigeria. That is our agenda. Tinubu and Yorubas by God's grace have made it happen using Buhari.

What else? The presidency? I said, we shall have it soon.

So what are you crying about again.

Dullard!
Even the Yoruba president is a gambari slave: Shonekan, Obasanjo etc.

Yoruba gambari slavery is becoming genetic.

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Re: Tinubu: Repeating Mistakes Of Afonja, Awolowo, Abiola, Diya By Ralph Egbu by VirginFinder: 9:46pm On Aug 10, 2015
imhotep:

So Afonja's self-enslavement did not pay off.

[s]Now all of his descendants are mindlessly reciting Arabic and 1mbecilically shouting "allahu akbar"

choi . . .[/s]

Are there no Yoruba muslims from the SW?
Even then, aren't there Yoruba christians from Ilorin?

Look, Afonja has had the upper hand on the long run as the Fulani in Ilorin have all been swallowed up and Yorubanised.

It's only the title, 'emir', that the Fulanis have left.

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