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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 3:44pm On Aug 11, 2015 |
sinizia: He was taking you for a f00l, not knowing you are more brilliant than him. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by sinizia: 3:45pm On Aug 11, 2015 |
Nihilist: True that because even a child in the womb knows Modric defends zilch, yet he was awarded the best DEFENSIVE midfielder. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 3:46pm On Aug 11, 2015 |
sinizia: Barca sold him brought a rookie into his position to show he failed at his role in barca And he stated the way Barca plays and how different it is from his own outlook to the game A player who wants to join attack and defence as the spirit leads |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nihilist: 3:48pm On Aug 11, 2015 |
chic2pimp: I've just shown you that Busquets does less defensively than 3 well known DMs. If you want we can extend it to the DMs of the biggest clubs in europe last season, and I guarantee you that Sergio will be near the bottom of the pile in terms of defensive work put in. Quite simply, he is a defensive midfielder, that doesn't really defend. He barely even does more defensively than Rakitic. Now the hype, comes from the passing. The recycling of possession, that 92% pass completion rate that was higher that Both Rakitic's and Iniesta's last season. That is the source of the hype my brother. 92% pass completion 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 3:50pm On Aug 11, 2015 |
A first-choice for club and country, Busquets' predominant role is to maintain his position behind Xavi Hernandez and Andres Iniesta, [size=18pt]dispossess the opposition[/size] and pass the ball to his more creative teammates. A penchant for overreacting to fouls can infuriate the opposition, but this does not diminish his overall contribution. A product of the club’s La Masia youth academy and one of the best holding midfielders in the world, Busquets is the master of the simple pass. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by SIRcumalot: 3:51pm On Aug 11, 2015 |
raumdeuter:What difference has any of those coaches made to the team they know not to ruin a good thing. My thought about Xavi and Iniesta under Rijjkard might have been wrong but these further strength my position. If you believe Xavi and Iniesta are quality players why didn't they feature prominently in that dominant Rijjkard Barcelona ? |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 3:52pm On Aug 11, 2015 |
raumdeuter: Football is evolving, nowadays you see full backs making attacking runs, but because your diver lacks attacking skills he would stay glued at one place like London Pakistani man watching over groceries. Even in fifa 14 he has no amazing skill ![]() ![]() ![]() https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iW-GUx9XhfQ |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nihilist: 3:53pm On Aug 11, 2015 |
raumdeuter: Dayo this is not the kind of question I would expect from you. Ok who was the DM that covered for Modric last season? Hear Pirlo: “Milan offered me a 1-year extension but I wanted 3 years because I was younger than the other players whose contracts were expiring,” Pirlo, 32, told today’s La Gazzetta dello Sport. “But the real reason behind why I left Milan was because Allegri wanted to use Ambrosini and Van Bommel in front of the defence. So that meant that I had to change position on the pitch. So I said ‘No, thanks’ to Milan, and chose Juve. Milan decided that I was no longer useful to them. I understood that immediately during our meeting. Allegri wanted to use other players in my position. During a long season injury problems can occur, but I believe that they should change something in the preparations at Milanello. That annoyed me. I played there for 10 years and they know that I don’t do certain things…" This tells you a lot. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by sinizia: 3:53pm On Aug 11, 2015 |
raumdeuter: The embolden words are your own words and NEVER the words of Barca or Yaya. Barca sold Yaya because Busquets is Spanish and a La Masia product. It's more of being biased. Even in that same year, Busquets was introduced, Yaya outperformed him. So how can a Yaya that outperformed Busquet be a failure? You are just neglecting the truth - Yaya was never sold because he failed in his role. You won't agree with me, so i won't debate it further. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by mithel(m): 3:53pm On Aug 11, 2015 |
Eva axed from our bench..... Na rumour, but if it is true then shame on all involved in that decision, come on she is a doctor, her first concern on anything is the player's condition and not the scoreline.... Shish. Very poor decision by the club. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by sinizia: 3:56pm On Aug 11, 2015 |
airmark: His explanation is a lame attempt at swaying the argument. He needs to do better or add non-existing words to Yaya's speech to convince me. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 3:56pm On Aug 11, 2015 |
SIRcumalot: Before I go further What Are you insinuating about Xavi and Iniesta ? |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by chrisley024(m): 3:57pm On Aug 11, 2015 |
What's even the need for this argument? As a coach, I'd pick Busquets as my DM over Yaya while Yaya as my box to box midfielder. It's suicidal to use Yaya as your DM. City coaches have always paired Yaya with a DM, sometimes even played him behind the striker. They know better. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nihilist: 3:57pm On Aug 11, 2015 |
Personally I believe that this has been a more reasonable debate than the usual Hazard vs Neymar etc nonsense, but to avoid further derailment, I will exit now. chic2pimp, raumdeuter, sinizia, sircumalot, and airmark. I thank you all for your opinions. I'm out. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 3:59pm On Aug 11, 2015 |
Nihilist: Whats the Purpose of this? Is it to prove that Pirlo didnt have DM cover in his Deep lying playmaker position? If yes what are Gattuso and Ambrosini And If Busquets is like Pirlo, who are the equivalent of his own Pirlo and Gattuso |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 4:02pm On Aug 11, 2015 |
sinizia: How did Yaya outperform Busquets Tello, Munir, Bartra, Bojan were all La Masia products how come they didnt displace Villa, Suarez, Neymar, Mascherano etc? Conspiracy and racial card is the ammunition of the weak 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by SIRcumalot: 4:09pm On Aug 11, 2015 |
raumdeuter:They deserve all the honours they get and I agree. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nihilist: 4:17pm On Aug 11, 2015 |
raumdeuter: Final response. 1.That article firmly places Busquets in the same Spatiality as Pirlo being the closest midfielders to the back four, without necessarily being defensive in nature. 2. The high line/ high press Barca play(ed) heavily compresses the space available to their opponent as evidenced in the fact that bar Messi and Suarez,all other outfield players averaged at least 1 succesful tackle per game last season 3 When coupled with the fact that on average Barca's opponent's only have the ball for 27 minutes out of the 90 available, it becomes apparent that Busquets does not even need a Gattuso or Ambrosini type of player. Infact, they dont even need dedicated defensive type players at all. I read 'Inverting the Pyramid' by Jon Wilson, and according to him, Cryuff who invented Barca's style, was even experimenting with a system that did not have a specialist goalkeeper! Dude let's discuss this later. I'm out. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 4:19pm On Aug 11, 2015 |
Nihilist: You argue very brilliantly with convincing facts. Only senseless football lover will call Sergio busquets as the world best DM as raumdeuter and others have been claiming. He even said dejong was bought to cover for yaya toure ![]() ![]()
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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Bimffo(m): 4:22pm On Aug 11, 2015 |
Thought we've bought Witsel and Baba. ![]() Didn't know it was another irrelevant argument.. ![]() Yaya and Sergio dont play the same position on the pitch, why compare them.? |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Krasid(m): 4:27pm On Aug 11, 2015 |
airmark:Modric never won the best defensive midfielder.He won the best midfielder which includes all midfield positions excluding the attacking midfielder position. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by dopeJemi: 4:27pm On Aug 11, 2015 |
mithel: If this is true, then it is very pathetic |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by sinizia: 4:45pm On Aug 11, 2015 |
raumdeuter: When arguing, always have in mind every lie of yours would be exposed. Busquets came into prominence in 2008/2009 all-conquering Barca side, and in that season, he was playing catch-up to Yaya. The only reason why Busquets even played in the DM for the final game was because of Abidal's dismissal in the 2nd leg of semi-final and Alvez injury prompting Pep to field Sylvinho at left-back, Yaya at CB, Puyol at RB and Busquets at DM. If not, he'd have been benched in preference to Yaya. So how on God's green earth did a rookie like Busquets still upcoming out-play a well-established DM, Yaya Toure? In 2008/2009, Busquets was still a rookie. He was never better than Yaya. And i knew you were lying. Yaya later said the reason why he left, and it was because of Pep's bad relationship with him. Toure is in no doubt as to where the blame lies. When pressed on his exit in October 2011, he made it clear that then Barca boss Pep Guardiola had effectively forced him out. Since Pep never spoke on why he sold Yaya, we'd stick with the words of Yaya and NOT your imaginary reasons. Also, you lied that Yaya was never disciplined and concentrated in his DM role at Barca, which is another hogwash. As a matter of fact, he was so defense-minded that he dropped into the defense. Here is the truth from another site which you quoted earlier showing Toure was disciplined at the DM role at Barca, even expressing shock on how Toure transformed to a box-to-box player on moving to City. Read and stop the lies against Toure. Yaya Toure played deepest in midfield, acting as a defensive shield for the center-backs. This is particularly interesting due to his effectiveness at Manchester City playing in a box-to-box role and scoring goals from midfield. Here, he played a disciplined role in midfield. For example, when both Abidal and Alves pushed forward, Toure dropped into defense as a third center-back. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 5:15pm On Aug 11, 2015 |
sinizia: May God bless you. Dayo is a born liar. Only a f00l will swallow his delusional views as regards busquet being a better Dm to yaya in 2009. I want someone to kick that m0f0 pep guardiola a,zz. Muller could nt do the needful last time and dejong missed the opportunity last week, Ronaldo could only shove the id,iot. I look forward to vidal head-butting that fvcktard's nose on training ground. ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by CorneliusSulla8: 5:17pm On Aug 11, 2015 |
Basically What Chelsea fans crucify Mikel for is what Barca fans glorify in sergio. 2 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Debroslink: 5:27pm On Aug 11, 2015 |
sinizia: Like I said earlier on before I logged out, if Yaya was that good, he wouldn't have been sold off, and we kept Seydou Keita. Mascherano is still @ the club despite the fact that he became a CB. Keita was the one that truly shared that DM with Busquets. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by phiszo(m): 5:30pm On Aug 11, 2015 |
you guys have ruined this thread with this yaya stuff.. this ain't mancity or barcelona's thread |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Debroslink: 5:33pm On Aug 11, 2015 |
CorneliusSulla8: What an insult! Why bring Mikel into the same line with Busquets? Crucify mikel all you want. There's a reason why Busquets has won the treble twice, and Mikel is sitting on the bench. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by CorneliusSulla8: 6:08pm On Aug 11, 2015 |
Debroslink:Know be the same posession recycling and simple passing them bothe they do ? |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by footreja: 6:19pm On Aug 11, 2015 |
CorneliusSulla8: I nearly had that thought when mikel played against spain in confed, he took spain to the cleaners with good midfield play. i dont just know whats wrong with mikel now. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M17SGuhMglc |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 6:25pm On Aug 11, 2015 |
[size=18pt]Eva Carneiro 'to be banned from Chelsea bench by Jose Mourinho'[/size] By Toby Keel Last update 1 hour ago - Published on 11/08/2015 at 17:04Chelsea club doctor Eva Carneiro is reportedly to be banned from sitting on the Blues bench during matches. The Premier League's most talked-about doctor - indeed, its only talked-about doctor - hit the headlines at the weekend when she was given a public dressing down by Jose Mourinho after the 2-2 draw with Swansea. Carneiro responded with a Facebook post which is unlikely to have gone down well with Chelsea. http://www.eurosport.com/football/premier-league/2015-2016/eva-carneiro-to-be-banned-from-bench-by-mourinho_sto4853767/story.shtml#uk-fb-po |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by barackohandso(m): 6:30pm On Aug 11, 2015 |
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