989900:


LoL . . . exactly what I expected . . . so you'd rather transport refined products via pipelines up North to over 12 states from PH or Warri, rather than transport crude to one refinery for further distribution, which is by far safer in all ramifications?

Redoil:
I have no hands in the repairing of the refinary - Pa buhari
APC cyber dogs be warn. Stay far away from gej achievement and stop claiming it as boopooharis own

VolturiLord:


See, let's stop deceiving ourselves. Goodluck Jonathan was in power for 6 good years, during which the country was crap. And it was because of the crappy state of the Nation we vote him out. Now, we have a new president and things are getting better. At least I can buy fish and put in my fridge with having to boil it first and you still wanna ascribe this things to GEJ?

If he was really the one that worked on the refineries and worked on power and all the others things, how come he couldn't do it in time to save his own skin and presidential seat.

Abeg brother.... think about this logically. Personally I don't feel the need to shout "Sai Baba" anytime I see things like this. I just bask in the fact that things are finally looking up and pray they get even better.

This is getting very annoying. Anything mildly political on NL is immediately pounced upon by camps trying to give accolades to this or that past or present president. It's high time we grow up folks.

Things are looking up, enjoy it...... don't be stuck in a quagmire of self righteous ridiculousness.

deadZONE:
AND THE $5.33 MILLION
WOULD BE DIRECTED TO
THEIR DEEP POCKETS..

erico2k2:

I agree with you to some xtent but lets be honest, where were we with power during the OBJ era 8 years lest we 4get,so would this be a thing of the party or the person, to me I would say it was the party rather teh person cos if PMB came under PDP he would have lost the election still cos people where tired of PDP don't you agree?

deadZONE:
AND THE $5.33 MILLION WOULD BE DIRECTED TO THEIR DEEP POCKETS..

VolturiLord:


Let's get something straight. Nigerians didn't vote for APC per se. Or rather lemme not be too quick to generalise. I personally didn't support the APC party, because truth being told, it's full of people who simply jumped overboard from a doomed and sinking ship to one under full sail. We supported a beacon on integrity in the midst of blatant greed and sanctioned corruption. We supported somebody that we could say would not fall prey to manipulations and pressure. Someone who could rise above it all and maybe deliver the promises made during the campaigns. The integrity of PMB bolstered APC's presidential aspirations. So I would definitely say this is a thing of the person (Buhari) and not the party.

IbnSultaan:
$5.33 million daily

longayink:


Go back to school and learn common factors that determine the location of industries.

Availability of raw materials or cost of transportation of raw materials to the site of the proposed industry is one - most important.

Sugar, tomatoes, etc., are produced in the north. How many industries related with manufacture with those northern raw materials are located in your south of Nigeria?

You can as well suggest the relocation of present oil wells in the south to north of Nigeria in order to make north rich, in order to demonstrate your south's selflessness.

deadZONE:
AND THE $5.33 MILLION
WOULD BE DIRECTED TO
THEIR DEEP POCKETS..

erico2k2:

yes, the main products needed to the man on the street is petrol,kerosine and Diesel.take away any sense of tribalism, how do you think Lagos will get their petrol, Ogun,Ondo, cos from last I checked, they had no refineries.I think the tank farms would be a good Idea, its what the westerners use to save cost.even in Europe the Russians piped gas and other products to diff countries

Redoil:
I have no hands in the repairing of the refinary - Pa buhari
APC cyber dogs be warn. Stay far away from gej achievement and stop claiming it as boopooharis own

989900:


Sagamu and Ibadan depots serve most western states, would you compare Sagamu to Warri (roughly 100km) vs say Warri to Katsina (roughly 1000km)?

Have you factored in pipeline vandalism with refined products easier to sell of at any point between say PH and Kaduna vs trying to tap crude at say Kogi/Abuja and selling it off/transporting the crude back to the Atlantic for sale?

anulaxad:


You do realise Muhammadu Buhari was the one who built all those refineries. Have you read the analytical write-ups of some nairalanders.

GMB'S presence alone has had an enormous impact on all the major sectors of our country; oil,electricity,justice e.g

God bless Nigeria

LastProphet:


Only a clueless person is scammed, why are you GEJ followers so daft? I now suspect Jonathan is Lord of daft Nigerians

erico2k2:

I wil take your word with a pinch of salt, reason sited would be *Like you I wont generalize, Nigerians do vote on tribal and regional basis.If i go by waht you are saying then we should hold PMB to account in service delivery as per election campaign and promises.now haven said that, how long do you think would be too long on him to deliver on his promise of =N=5000 for undergraduates without jobs?would the degree which you hold him in high integrity decrease?

nijanigga:

They're a bigots and ignorant like their ogogoro master.

erico2k2:

Ok I take it you aint from teh Delta hence you don't know, selling off of crude is far more profitable these days as people now have refineries in their back garden, you really think they need to go to the high seas?do you know what the term BLACK OIL means? ask guys who are into tanker movement that you will be chocked.stealing of petrol is more difficult than stealing of crude ,if you k now about crude oil flow lines you will realize these vandals target the pre flow stations not after,you canot temper the main trunk line with the aim of stealing crude,the pressure after the flow station is what you cannot comprehend,you will die on i mpact..Anyways in other news with al this initial gra gra how much are we going to save if the Ph and warri Refineries start operations in full? no one is saying anything about that yet are they?

989900:


That works for the 'small-timer's.

OTOH, it's 100 times easier to transport say DPK for example, over a 100km journey from any point X to Y, than it is to transport crude; easier to sell by far too . . . you know that right?

About the refineries, KD refinery @90% would save the country $5.33m(N1b)/day I think roughly same goes for Warri . . . PH 1&2 could save more. All in all, with relatively stable electricity, our imports could be reduced by as much as 75% actually more if bunkering (Cotonou and others) are checked.

herald9:
The Nigerian government was so wise that they built a refinery at where oil is not produced.

herald9:
The Nigerian government was so wise that they built a refinery at where oil is not produced.

herald9:
The Nigerian government was so wise that they built a refinery at where oil is not produced.

erico2k2:

I think either you and anulaxad are kids of the 80s or are rather ignorant or blinded by ethnic bigotry,Im from the Niger Delta and know my history very well,PMB built no refinaries, where do you guys get this rubish from? election has come and gone here you are still baking in the lies politicians flungged to you this is taking it Hook n Sinker
igerian first Refinery, Port Harcourt Refinery located at Alesa Eleme, was built by Shell Petroleum and British Petroleum from 1963 to 1965. The company operates two oil refineries including an old plant commissioned in 1965 that can process 60,000 barrels of oil per stream day and the new plant commissioned in 1989, which has a capacity of 150,000 bpsd.

Buhari Joined the army as a recruit in 1962 and for sure will not have built this Refinery.

The Warri Refinery was awarded by Yakubu Gowon to Snamprogetti Spa Milan, Italy in 1975 (in this period, Buhari was the governor of North-eastern state) at the cost of $478 million and commenced operation in 1978 (now few months as Petroleum Minister). It had the design capacity of 100,000 b/d.
The Kaduna Refinery was awarded by Murtala Mohammed in 1976 and was built by Chiyoda Engineering and Construction Company – a Japanese firm, at the cost of $525 million and was completed by Obasanjo in 1979 (Buhari’s tenure as the Petroleum. Minister ended in 1978).
It had two refining streams (50,000 b/d fuels units) and (50,000 b/d lubes, waxes Asphalt plants).
Port Harcourt 11 as we mentioned above was awarded by Gen IBB in 1985 with an installed capacity of 150,000 b/d and completed in 1989.
Meanwhile in 1985, IBB undertook an expansion of the capacities of the fuels units in both Warri and Kaduna refineries to 125,000b/d and 110,000b/d respectively. He therefore added 185,000b/d capacity to the total 445,000b/d as at 1989. No further addition has been added till date.
So, when did Buhari build the four refineries?

matrixme:
How exactly is it that we produce crude oil from the coast and pass pipelines millions of kilometres underground to the north and claim that as a success? In the days of Boko haram, what does the north have to do with refining petroleum products when the pipes can easily be hijacked by the evil does? I wont be surprised if we have to deal with cases of oil spillage in the North someday. Economic planners in Nigeria are truly brainless

jpphilips:


Kaduna refinery was not designed to refine light crude (in lay man's terms) produced in the delta at the onset, the Kaduna refinery was serving the purpose of supplying refined products to the north and also a national contingency programme.
The oil refined in Kaduna was imported at the time, it was done in a way that if there is trouble in the delta that no oil can come out from there, Kaduna will hold the fort with imported crude as an emergency response.

It was recently when heavy crude(in layman's terms) became expensive and the refineries in the south collapsed, that the idea was jettisoned and the refinery was remodelled to crack light crude. That was the ingenuity of our heroes past, when our leaders used to think.
There was no ethnic motive whatsoever, it was based strictly on national interest.

In my opinion, do you guys have any idea how much it will cost to run a pipeline from the south to the north and the risk of transporting refined products against crude, let me give you a few examples;

The Transborder keystone pipeline will span a distance of 1,897km at a cost of $7b, if you factor in inflation terms that sum at the time Kaduna refinery was built would be nearly $4b, meanwhile Kaduna refinery cost around $500m.

So it is cheaper to build a refinery than transporting over a long distance, the money for the pipelines alone will get us about 6 more refineries.
The refinery will create more direct and indirect jobs more that a massive pipeline project of that nature, so it makes perfect economic sense to have a refinery in Kaduna, than transporting refined products over a long distance.
Our leaders past (Economic planners like you put it) were not brainless you are.