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Re: KIRIJI : The World's Longest Civil War By Any Ethnic Group by Bollove: 3:33am On Aug 18, 2015 |
Ilekeh:what is now the implication of the closeness ![]() You guys would still be close without the war as far as you share common heritage but for some nonsense warlords to shrink Yoruba land to this present status due to intra-ethnic war abi na Civil war , it was a bad move and unwise in the view of we(me) present generation !!! I would have appreciated Kiriji war if it was between Yoruba and the people of Senegal or Yoruba vs Zulu folks in South Africa .... But Yoruba vs Yoruba ....... Look at Fulani people, they expanded like madness in Africa because it is always them vs others if not for Europeans that stopped them, Fulani would have taken 50%of Africa from west to South !!! is this Ileke idi ? 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: KIRIJI : The World's Longest Civil War By Any Ethnic Group by Missy89(f): 4:03am On Aug 18, 2015 |
Bollove: The Yoruba state also expanded during the golden age of the ancient oyo empire. Civil war within the same ethic group is usually common especially when there is a difference in ideology and power structure. Afterall, the Eastern Yorubas fought in other to prevent another Yoruba clan from subjugating them. ignorance! |
Re: KIRIJI : The World's Longest Civil War By Any Ethnic Group by Ilekeh(f): 4:07am On Aug 18, 2015 |
Bollove: It has given us unity. Who told you Yoruba is not mentally colonizing the SE/SS? 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: KIRIJI : The World's Longest Civil War By Any Ethnic Group by Ilekeh(f): 4:10am On Aug 18, 2015 |
Missy89: You got it. Ekiti felt politically dominated by its Ondo neighbors. |
Re: KIRIJI : The World's Longest Civil War By Any Ethnic Group by seunmsg(m): 4:24am On Aug 18, 2015 |
Ilekeh: The Ekitiparapo war was against the Ibadan of Oyo ancestry and not Ondo. Akure and other Ondo state towns of today fought alongside the Ekiti confederate army in the war. 4 Likes 1 Share |
Re: KIRIJI : The World's Longest Civil War By Any Ethnic Group by seunmsg(m): 4:33am On Aug 18, 2015 |
AustineE1: You read the wrong history bro. Heavy military weapons were imported and used during the later part of the war. In fact, some white mercenary fought on the side on the Ekiti/Ijesha forces. The issue of Fulani being the game changer is absolute thrash. The Alaafin of Oyo and some educated Yoruba missionaries appealed to the British to help negotiate a truce. 5 Likes 1 Share |
Re: KIRIJI : The World's Longest Civil War By Any Ethnic Group by tpiander: 5:01am On Aug 18, 2015 |
kilokeys: did it? |
Re: KIRIJI : The World's Longest Civil War By Any Ethnic Group by tpiander: 5:02am On Aug 18, 2015 |
Missy89: op take note and stop running around half cocked. |
Re: KIRIJI : The World's Longest Civil War By Any Ethnic Group by femimike1(m): 5:46am On Aug 18, 2015 |
bro abeg gimme the link 9jacrip: |
Re: KIRIJI : The World's Longest Civil War By Any Ethnic Group by Adimine(m): 6:13am On Aug 18, 2015 |
PREAMBLE: IJESALAND BEFORE HIS
BIRTH:
It was a known fact that before Chief Ogedengbe was born, Ilesa
and the entire Ijesaland was under the total control of the Alaafin
of Oyo, who doubled to be the eldest son of Olofin Ajaye popularly
called the Oduduwa of Yoruba hegemony.
There had been several attacks and assaults on Ilesa by the Oyos in
orders to make Ilesa, the headquarters of Ijesaland, a tributary
territory for the Oyo Empire. All efforts to conquer the Ijesas were
not successful because of their strength, fortitude and winning
spirit. It was during these periods of war, turbulence and communal
disturbances that a Saviour and redeemer, a conqueror and a
champion of his time would come.
Before Chief Ogedengbe was born, the Owa Obokun of Ilesa was
virtually disturbed and perplexed on the continuous ravaging wars
from the Oyos. The Owa Obokun then invited his Ifa Oracle
consultants to find ways of quelling these incessant problems from
the Oyos. These consultants consulted their ifa oracle and there was
a revelation that a ‘great son’ of Ijesa was about to be born was
about to be born who would salvage his people from the whims and
caprices of the Oyos. In order to actualize the birth of this boy, a
black cow and other herbs far and near were to be concoted. The
Ifa Oracle then decided where the ‘golden boy’ was to be born. It
fell on ‘
Atorin’ a little village very close to Ifewara in Atakunmosa West
Local Government.
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OGEDENGBE’S BIRTH:- A pregnant women by frame name,
FALUPO woke up in her village at Atorin, only to be told to show
up at the Town Hall where verification exercise on whom to bear
the ‘golden boy’ was to be identified. Lady Falupo amongst other
sixteen (16) pregnant women was identified to bear the child. All
rituals were performed at Atorin near Ifewara and deposits were
taken to a site close to the present Hope Grammer School
Bolorunduro, Ilesa for sedimentation.
After twenty-one days of the rituals there areas where the rituals
were placed started to spring-up water, later stream and eventually
delevloping to a river. The Slogan, “Nya woo oo” ‘come and see’
now river ‘Ayao’ , which is a popular river in Ilesa metropolis.
No one can say exactly the date Chief Ogedengbe was born.
Speculations were rife but one would boldly say he was born in the
early 19th Century between 1805 – 1815 A.D. This could be
decided by his strength and prowess during the last series of
battles he fought at kiriji battle front at the Kiriji Battle front.
Replying on the records of Captain B. W. Bower, the Resident of
the British Government at Oyo, he rated him to be old and avassed
in war experience and he would be about eighty years of age
Captain B. W. Bower wrote this in his records in 1885
His mother’s town was Atorin while his father`s was OLORISA. He
did not grow up in Olorisa because the mother had relocated to
Atorin because of predictions and matrimonial problems from the
bubbling husband whose personal physique and rotundity attracted
several women to his household. His name is Apasan Forijiwa.
The little Ogedengbe grew up at Atorin until he shot a pregnant
woman at Atorin. He could not go to school because schooling and
formal education was unknown to Ijesaland then. He ran to IIesa to
avoid being humiliated and assaulted or even punished. He was at
Ifofin, in his Uncle’s house as an abode.
As a bachelor, he befriended a lady who had been bethrowned to
one high Chief in Ilesa called Odole Ariyasunle. The Chief was not
happy, he ordered his arrest, he was chained and detained at Idi –
Ito ( Ijebu Jesa Junction of Ilesa). His peers and friends forcibly
released him and he had to escape to Ibadan.
HIS FIRST TRAVAIL AT IBADAN: -
On getting to Ibadan, he could not settle peacefully. He had to
enroll into the Ibadan upper Army Unit meant for outstanding
soldiers. Aare Latosa gave him the necessary trainings and
equipments to make him up. He was at Ibadan when he learnt that
the Ibadan’s were waging war with the Ijesas and Igbajo (a district
of Ijesas). He hurriedly left Ibadan to assist the Ijesas and Igbajo
forces. On the battlefront, he was caught and brought back to
Ibadan to face the case of sedition. He was given severe
punishments and attempts were made to terminate his life. He was
able to escape all the threats to his life.
HIS ESCAPE FROM IBANDAN:-
After several attempts to him failed. The Ibadan Army under Aare
Latosa said he should be stoned to death. At this time a women,
OLOKUNLARO came to his rescue and he was able to escape. He
fraught his way back to Ilesa with great difficulties. Several security
men were killed but Ogedengbe was not hurt.
On his arrival at Ilesha, Ogedengbe warned the Ijesas about the
imminent wars already planned by the Ibadans against Ijesas. To the
Contrary, Odole Ariyasunle who was never happy raised opposing
views and advised Ogedengbe to leave Ilesa .Ogedengbe left Ilesa
for Igbara Oke where he turned to his headquarters instead of Ilesa.
As predicted by Ogedengbe that the Ibadans would attack Ilesa, they
came and pounced on the Ijesa heavily. The Ibadans surrounded Ilesa
but could not enter into the town. This was because Ilesa was
protected by traditional walls which were seven (7) in number. The
height of each wall was over forty (40 feet). Though there were
seven outlets into Ilesa then, they were highly fortified by Ijesa
forces. The Ibadans could not penetrate despite their might and
strength. These walls were called ‘ODI’.
Ogedengbe had about the onslaught of the Ibadans on his kinsmen,
he was disturbed and he started to ‘NURSE’ an idea of revenge
against the Ibadans if GOD permits. He settled permanently at
Igbara Oke where he extended
his authorities over several Ekiti, Akoko and Edo countries. He
fought and commanded his soldiers to capture several towns in the
present Ekiti, Ondo, Edo and Kware states under the banner and
respect for the Owa Obokun of Ijesaland. Through-out his
expansionist battles, he did not touch any of the beaded Obas of
Oduduwa. He did not fight in Ijero because of the Ajero of Ijero
,equally Aramoko because of the Deji and Owo Because of the
Olowo. He was even invited to Benin Kingdom and honored by the
Oba of Benin for his efforts in regaining the lost glory of
Oduduwa. Towns like Ise-Ekiti,Emure,Somorika, Iyayu ,Ituwo
,Epinmin ,Iboropa ,Oka Akoko and tens of other could not forget
Ogedengbe in their histories. These prowesses led to a slogan “O
soko Ekiti soko Akoko, Eniti Akoko ndi esin sin lori oke.
THE KIRIJI WAR AND OGEDENGBE’S INVOLVMENT
Ogedengbe was at Igbara Oke when the Kiriji war of 1870 started.
The
causes of the war were numerous and each group involved as
parties believed they were right. But, to the Ijesas, we believed that
the excesses Ajele (District Overseer) from Ibadan were too much
for the Ijeasa and Ekitis to bear. Rumour has it that one
FABUMMI a great Ijesaman from Oke Imeji made the history
factual. It was true that his wife (FABUMMI) prepared his lunch
and was heading to his farm to give him, when the servants of
Ibadan Ajele, attacked her and forced her to be raped openly by the
Ajele. These actions of the Ibadan apart from been barbaric and
rough were alien and taboos to the Ijesas, hence the beginning of
the ugly war.
The Ijesas invited their people in Ekiti land like Aduloju Dodondawa,
Falowo from Ekiti and host of other war lords. It was then they
realized that without Ogedengbe the battle WOULD not be won. The
Ijesas contacted their Ifa oracle severally and it reveled on each
occasions that it was only Ogedengbe who could conquer the Ibadans.
Attempts were made to parliate Ogedengbe to come back to Ilesa
and help them fight the Ibadan. Ogedengbe did not take the
emissaries serious because of disappointments he did not take the
emissaries serious because of the disappointments he had received
from the powerful Ijesa High Chiefs. At long last, several rituals
were prepared and sent to Igbara-Oke where Ogedengbe eventually
conceded to head the Ekiti Parapo Arm. The man who took a white
horse fully loaded with charms to Ogedengbe at Igbara-Oke was
called Opiliki (aka) Asodedero.
It was when Ogedengbe arrived that the whole Ekiti believed that the
Ijesas were actually serious to route out the Ibadans from their
vicinity. Immediately Ogedengbe got to Imesi-Ile, he was appointed the
“SERIKI MEYAKI” meaning the Commander- in-Chief or
Generallissimo of the Ijesa / Ekiti Parapo forces or Army.
Ogedengbe announced the commencement of the battle. It was a
fierce one, but after seven (7) weeks of fighting the Ibadans
became weary; and Ogedengbe advised them to send to Ibadan and
fetch their war lord popular called ‘Are Latosisa’
Are Latosisa arrived for the Kiriji war and settled at Ikirun. He
even boasted before leaving Ibadan that he would use only three (3)
days to overrun the Ijesas on getting to the battle front, he invited
Ogedengbe and reminded him of his (Ogedengbe) oath at Ibadan
immediately after the Igbajo war. Ogedengbe rebuffed him saying he
was fighting Ijesa National war.
It was then known that the Ekiti Parapo forces were fully prepared
to capture alive the Are Latosisa.The battle was time consuming,
starting from the dawn to dusk.
When the Ibadans could no longer cope they started to hammer a
slogan as thus:-‘Ilu Kereje a ta ni lofa, a ta ni lofa ara a ro ni
koro’ meaning ‘Small towns with dangerous weapons to kill their
opponets.
During the battle, the Ijesas who enormous influence in West
Germany had brought riffles and other sophisticated weapons from
Itebu in Lagos to assist the forces. Notable amongst them were the
Haastrups Thompson Gureje and Turtons. Initially two (2) riffles
were sent, but when they performed very well more riffles were
brought; at the end of the war nor less than eight hundred (800)
riffles were used. The prices of these weapons were battered, that
his slaves were sent to Lagos to liquidate the debt.
By 1884, the Ibandan troops were fidgeting so, from their Igbajo
base, Are Latosisa sent to Alaanfin of Oyo to contact the Residents
of the colonial British Government, and find means of settlement
because the Ijesas in alliance with the Ekitis generally are super
difficult to succumb to the Oyos wishes. He said if care was not
urgently taken, the Ijesas would ruin and destroyed the Oyos
powerful army.
Alaafin of Oyo, contacted the governor in Lagos who directed his
resident at Oyo to wade into the communal conflict for immediate
settlement.
Captain Bower invited Ogedengbe and Are Latosisa for a truce to
the ugly war. Ogedengbe did not immediately agreed for settlement
but after several pressures and persuasion from captain Bower he
agreed for settlement.
Captain Bower then mentioned the emergency codes for the two (2)
warring parties:-
1. No more fighting;
2. No more ritual killing or cannibalism
3. No more slave trade in Yourbaland
On the same date, Igbajo camp was destroyed and burnt, and
eventually returned to Ibadan. No one could say he Aare Latosisa
returned to Ibadan because any war lost by the Aare of Ibadan
would be the last outing for him in or outside Ibadan.
During the war, Ogedengbe Kept the Owa Obokun at Esa Oke while
the Ekiti Obas requested Owa Obokun too to come to the battle
front, but Ogedengbe technically told them to find another leader for
the Ekiti parapo forces then his Owa would appear. They reasoned
with him that the son could not be stronger than his father. It
settled there.
OGEDENGBE IN HIS LATE YEARS
Ogedengbe finally returned to Ilesa after the Kiriji War. He settled
peacefully but his forces popular called the Ipayes because Pugilistics
unruly, uncontrollable and causing several threats to the Ijesas.
Reports were made orally and openly to Ogedengbe but he could not
control then, believing that they were the fingers that fed him during
his travails. Efforts were made attempting to terminate his life but
all in failures. Then, the Ijesas reported him to the resident at Oyo.
It was during the reign of Owa Obokun Elere. The Owa Obokun
hesitated in singing his petition to the resident at Oyo, because he
was the one who appointed and installed him when Ogedengbe
refused to be installed as the Owa Obokun Captain Bower came to
Ilesa with twenty-one soldiers to arrest Ogedengbe. On the day he
was arrested, there was a mild drama. Arimoro, one of the
Ogedengbes lieutenants wanted to prevent Captain Bower to take
Ogedengbe away. Captain Bower immediately drew the boyonnet of
his gun to strike him, immediately the bayonet broke into seven (7)
pieces.
Ogedengbe then appealed to the Ijesas not to fight for him because
the British Government would destroy Ilesa Town if only one of her
citizen was killed.
The second drama on the same day was when they got to Osunjela,
a boundary between Osogbo and Ilesa. It was very difficult to
cross the river Osun, but surprisingly, Ogedengbe had crossed the
river without any boat or helper with his white horse wailing this tail
to him. It was here that captain Bower realized the prowess of
Ogedengbe as a great man.
On where Ogedengbe should be exiled he told them that the preferred
any town in Yorubaland but not Ibadan but instead he preferred Iwo.
Tolls were paid to see him because of their past conjunction with
some Ijesas like Gureje Thompson have invade his ANAYE house
and removed all the riffles he used at the war front and other
valuables. When Ogedengbe heard this, he wept for the first (1st)
time in his life, saying Ijesas were very difficult to curtail. There
were even rumour that he cursed the progressives in Ijesaland.
Before his arrival, Owa Obokun Elere had died. Efforts were
geared to select him for the second time to become the Owa
Obokun, he equally refused.
HIS DEATH oba3
Ogedengbe died in Ilesa in 1910 as the Obanla of Ijesaland. During
his period his influence and affluence extended to Akoko in Ondo
State; Ekiti land in Ekiti State; and towns like Owena; Ikeji-Ile,
Arakeji, Ira; Ipetu Ijessa , Erin Oke and Erin Odo, Efon Alaye,
Ido Ajinnare , Aramoko,Oke Mesi, Imese-Ile, Igbajo and Iresi to
mention a few.
Seeing the support and cooperation of these numerous towns, he
prayed that Ilesa and Ijesa would never witness any war AGAIN.
Before he died, two days to his demise, thunderstorms sounded three
(3) times in the sky signaling the home-call of a great man. Owa
Atayero invited him to appease the gods and goddesses of Ijesaland
to avert the impeding problem but Ogedengbe told him that he was
prepared to REST with his fore-fathers. He died peacefully with his
children, Kith and Kin after advising them to be loyal, peaceful and
law-abiding to a to all the rules and regulations of their fatherland.
He appealed to them not to interfere with other Chieftaincies in
Ijesaland and beyond except the Obanla of Ijesaland and if they
followed their advice, love, prosperity and peace would dominate their
lives. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: KIRIJI : The World's Longest Civil War By Any Ethnic Group by emamos: 6:27am On Aug 18, 2015 |
forgiveness: |
Re: KIRIJI : The World's Longest Civil War By Any Ethnic Group by Nobody: 6:35am On Aug 18, 2015 |
Sweetlemon, you see how Yorubas yearn after brutality and war, pining for the savage, precolonial days when they would have purportedly conquered the South East and South South people instead of killing themselves like the disunited people they were? What do you have to say to the fact that they have shown the land grabbing tendencies you accuse Igbos of? Looking forward to hearing back. 1 Like |
Re: KIRIJI : The World's Longest Civil War By Any Ethnic Group by Nobody: 6:40am On Aug 18, 2015 |
Sweetlemon, FYI. Bollove: |
Re: KIRIJI : The World's Longest Civil War By Any Ethnic Group by Missy89(f): 6:43am On Aug 18, 2015 |
Ilekeh: Akoko, Ondo etc fought alongside Ekiti against Ibadan/ Modakeke and their allies. The domination you are talking about probably happened in the 60s/70s? 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: KIRIJI : The World's Longest Civil War By Any Ethnic Group by tpiander: 6:46am On Aug 18, 2015 |
Missy89: she doesnt know what she's talking about. 60s/70s when Ekiti became renowned for education? ![]() |
Re: KIRIJI : The World's Longest Civil War By Any Ethnic Group by Nobody: 6:49am On Aug 18, 2015 |
AustineE1: guy u are on a long tin the yoruba is a civillized nation even b4 the british interference in w/africa @op the yoruba civil wars past that 16 yrs so te evrybdy bcme afraid of war |
Re: KIRIJI : The World's Longest Civil War By Any Ethnic Group by dejavski(m): 6:59am On Aug 18, 2015 |
![]() We in Ondo South don't know what Kiriji means ![]() |
Re: KIRIJI : The World's Longest Civil War By Any Ethnic Group by rocoh(m): 7:20am On Aug 18, 2015 |
AustineE1: You are wrong. The Fulanis never joined oyo.Kiriji was the onomatope of the sound made by the loading of the Gun although not Cannon guns. |
Re: KIRIJI : The World's Longest Civil War By Any Ethnic Group by Bollove: 7:44am On Aug 18, 2015 |
Missy89:I am not blaming those who fought back I.e. EkitiParapo ...... I am blaming those who wanna colonize their fellow brothers I.e Ibadan ....... What if Are Latoosa of Ibadan with Ijebu and Egba warriors match towards West Africa and they keep warring until say Senagal while Ogedengbe and Fabunmi Oke-Imesi with their Ekiti/Ijesha warrior March towards East Nigeria to South Africa ![]() Imagine what Yoruba empire would have been now, Imagine Latoosa/Fabunmi and Ogedengbe being on the same team ..... Instead they started fighting each other for 16 damn years !!! Afonja also mess it by ceding Ilorin to Fulanis due to internal warring noni ![]() It never stop till date, Tinubu/Ambode vs Fashola Tinubu/Akande/Obasanjo vs Bode george Tinubu vs Bukola Saraki Tinubu vs Obasanjo Awolowo vs Akintola and many more that has happened and is happening ![]() I ain't ignorant of what Oyo empire was then , read my posts there is no where I display ignorance of OYO Empire ...........?? I just do not appreciate Kiriji war and Ibadan imperialism then !!! The reason why Hausa/Fulani expanded so exceedingly well was because internal rancour is minimal and can be easily quashed !!! 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: KIRIJI : The World's Longest Civil War By Any Ethnic Group by patrick89(m): 8:02am On Aug 18, 2015 |
War ke? no be only war! I'm sure they were just shouting up and down with juju nothing more! how can you say that yoruba fought? nonsense... |
Re: KIRIJI : The World's Longest Civil War By Any Ethnic Group by Nobody: 8:57am On Aug 18, 2015 |
Re: KIRIJI : The World's Longest Civil War By Any Ethnic Group by SirShymexx: 9:22am On Aug 18, 2015 |
Missy89: This war is the reason why ya folks and Ekiti folks despise both my Ijebu and Egba folks. And I'm starting to have some reservations about Eastern Yoruba people (though Ijebu folks are geographical more central and Eastern Yorubas than Western and I believe culturally, we have more in common with Ondo/Ilaje and Ijeshas than other Yoruba folks). Your arses got whopped by Ibadan. However, rather than direct ya hate towards Ibadan folks - you had to pick on other people as scapegoats. It is similar to how Igbo folks chase Yorubas everywhere, rather than face the Northerners who were their nemesis during the Biafran war. It must be an Eastern thing loool. 1 Like |
Re: KIRIJI : The World's Longest Civil War By Any Ethnic Group by coolzeal(m): 10:12am On Aug 18, 2015 |
Missy89:You don't need to play smart on me.. I suppose you know the answers yourself. |
Re: KIRIJI : The World's Longest Civil War By Any Ethnic Group by dangerous01(m): 10:40am On Aug 18, 2015 |
KIRIJI WAR . Make d ijeshas no worry wen I go soon use d war story write d 1st yoruba seasonal movie I swear he go even sweet pass jumong sef 1 Like |
Re: KIRIJI : The World's Longest Civil War By Any Ethnic Group by Nobody: 11:23am On Aug 18, 2015 |
my poor knowledge of the Yoruba/SW map, will never allow me understand this war. I need a comprehensive map. 1 Like |
Re: KIRIJI : The World's Longest Civil War By Any Ethnic Group by macof(m): 1:52pm On Aug 18, 2015 |
AustineE1: Sorry to tell you cause you seem to really like that book. ..but there's just so much nonsense you got from it |
Re: KIRIJI : The World's Longest Civil War By Any Ethnic Group by macof(m): 2:07pm On Aug 18, 2015 |
Ilekeh: You are merging the Ondo/Ekiti political struggle with the Kiriji war Akure was actually part of the original Ekiti Parapo kingdoms |
Re: KIRIJI : The World's Longest Civil War By Any Ethnic Group by shotster50(m): 2:19pm On Aug 18, 2015 |
This is wrong it isnt the longest war in the world.. maybe in Yorubaland but saying the whole world is stretching it... http://akorra.com/2010/03/04/top-10-longest-wars/ Thank me later |
Re: KIRIJI : The World's Longest Civil War By Any Ethnic Group by coolitempa(f): 2:31pm On Aug 18, 2015 |
seunmsg: Exactly....this is what I was told o. It was against the perceived dictatorship of the Olubadan ![]() ![]() |
Re: KIRIJI : The World's Longest Civil War By Any Ethnic Group by ahkenaten(m): 2:58pm On Aug 18, 2015 |
shotster50: The longest civil war 1 Like |
Re: KIRIJI : The World's Longest Civil War By Any Ethnic Group by demmie1: 3:13pm On Aug 18, 2015 |
AustineE1: Show me a sane Igbo boy and i'll tell you its the end of the world 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: KIRIJI : The World's Longest Civil War By Any Ethnic Group by Missy89(f): 6:08pm On Aug 18, 2015 |
coolzeal: i dont so tell me |
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