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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by EVarn(m): 6:54pm On Aug 20, 2015
DictatorZAR:


You came and made a claim that you are Africa's largest wheat producer not us, we only corrected your blatant fraudulent assertions.

Like I said who cares about cassava, definitely not us here down in Southern Africa.

Tell me is Cassava in global terms more important then wheat.
Lol,cassava makes us huge amount of cash,who cares if it is percieved to be "less important" by a fat dumb south african?
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 6:56pm On Aug 20, 2015
EVarn:
Our senate does not assault the president,they keep their fist fights and brawls between themselves like any other advanced parliament.
It is only in SA that parliamentarians challenge the president to a duel in view of the public.

Punk


http://www.tv360nigeria.com/house-of-reps-members-exchange-blows-over-leadership/

This is just the APC grin
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 7:02pm On Aug 20, 2015
EVarn:
Lol,cassava makes us huge amount of cash,who cares if it is percieved to be "less important" by a fat dumb south african?

Palm wine clouding up your Igbo small brain as usual.

Just admit you tried to spread a lie about your wheat production and I'll rest my case. Tell me do you produce more citrus fruits then SA to or are you gonna lie again.
gringringringringringrin
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by EVarn(m): 8:16pm On Aug 20, 2015
DictatorZAR:


Punk


http://www.tv360nigeria.com/house-of-reps-members-exchange-blows-over-leadership/
This is just the APC grin
I didnt claim that our senate dont fight,what i said was that they dont molest the president.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by EVarn(m): 8:21pm On Aug 20, 2015
DictatorZAR:
Palm wine clouding up your Igbo small brain as usual.
Just admit you tried to spread a lie about your wheat production and I'll rest my case. Tell me do you produce more citrus fruits then SA to or are you gonna lie again.
gringringringringringrin
Bigot,so every Nigerian is igbo?,you obviously have an unhealthy obssession for igbo people,borne out of watching too many nollywood movies.
Nigeria is 2nd or 3rd citrus producer in Africa.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by EVarn(m): 8:29pm On Aug 20, 2015
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 8:37pm On Aug 20, 2015
EVarn:
#WhenAliensMeetNigerians
alien space ship crashes into Nigeria,Nigerians run to the scene to scoop fuel

Go ahead write that novel, I will surely enjoy your sci-fi fanatical intuitiveness.
gringringrin
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by EVarn(m): 8:41pm On Aug 20, 2015
DictatorZAR:


Go ahead write that novel, I will surely enjoy your sci-fi fanatical intuitiveness.
gringringrin
dang!,it was actually meant for another thread.dont know whats wrong with my device tonight.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MduZA: 9:02pm On Aug 20, 2015
Iblawi1:

nonsense I guess u know we should be the 1 talking of attacking you. What makes you think you are better trained. Your Airforce is about the same size with ours (about 10,000)and you can't get 10 good pilot From that large number and you are claiming to be better train keep deceiving yourself.

Stop talking of three weeks they will all die in an hour.

Secondly dey won't even enter this country

Thirdly how do you plan to transport them to Nigeria, in you commercial airline you call airforce or what?

LOL...within 3 weeks 100 south African soldiers did what over 150 000 Nigerian soldiers failed over 10 years....pres buhari and Jonathan can put attest to this while clueless people like you are here showing artificial muscles...

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by iblawi(m): 9:14pm On Aug 20, 2015
MduZA:


LOL...within 3 weeks 100 south African soldiers did what over 150 000 Nigerian soldiers failed over 10 years....pres buhari and Jonathan can put attest to this while clueless people like you are here showing artificial muscles...

Who is this clueless man.
Where did your 100 soldiers come from.
Una too dey feed una sef with stupid talks

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MduZA: 9:17pm On Aug 20, 2015
iblawi:


Who is this clueless man.
Where did your 100 soldiers come from.
Una too dey feed una sef with stupid talks

go and ask your ex president those questions
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by iblawi(m): 9:44pm On Aug 20, 2015
MduZA:


go and ask your ex president those questions
I would never expect a man who as passed puberty to think 100 men would face boko haram.
Do u think fighting terrorism is just about carry guns?
Dondi

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 10:45pm On Aug 20, 2015
iblawi:

I would never expect a man who as passed puberty to think 100 men would face boko haram.
Do u think fighting terrorism is just about carry guns?
Dondi

Yes its about
1-good training/experience
2-high end weapons
3-good intelligence
4-good support systems
5-the will to fight

All these measures can make 100 man take on boko haram with relative efficacy. Modern warfare is nolonger just about numbers alone.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Iblawi1: 10:49pm On Aug 20, 2015
DictatorZAR:


Yes its about
1-good training/experience
2-high end weapons
3-good intelligence
4-good support systems
5-the will to fight

All these measures can make 100 man take on boko haram with relative efficacy. Modern warfare is nolonger just about numbers alone.
U r in serious danger.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by iblawi(m): 11:25pm On Aug 20, 2015
Iblawi1:

U r in serious danger poor nation like South Africa .
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by iblawi(m): 11:32pm On Aug 20, 2015
DictatorZAR:


Yes its about
1-good training/experience
2-high end weapons
3-good intelligence
4-good support systems
5-the will to fight

All these measures can make 100 man take on boko haram with relative efficacy. Modern warfare is nolonger just about numbers alone.

You boast a lot about your nation that will soon face the same problem as Greece. Your country is owing about $140 billion dollars and you are talking of war and terrorism. Go to bed Dumpee
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 11:35pm On Aug 20, 2015
iblawi:

You boast a lot about your nation that will soon face the same problem as Greece. Your country is owing about $140 billion dollars and you are talking of war and terrorism. Go to bed Dumpee
WTF are you talking about? our debt is under control IN FACT we have a better credit rating than you!!
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 12:09am On Aug 21, 2015
DictatorZAR:


"Minute" according to you just to suit your ego. You know nothing yourself and it has been proven here many times Mr photo shop.

Your PL-9 is not even in the league of our IRST's or A-Datar AAM's. The PL-9 cannot even be fired of bore so how the hell will it have a 90% kill ratio when a A-Datar or IRST can be fired to intercept the PL-9. Your PL-9 cannot even engage any missiles.

The marlin bvr currently in development will use sub components from both Umkhonto and A-Datar so it will take less then 8 years for its completion. SAAB has offered the meteor to SAAF as a interim when it becomes available.

The F-7 is not a 3.5gen multirole its not even a multirole fighter it is a poor nation airforce interceptor fact. Its systems and airframe is based on 1970 aircraft and by no means even considered a threat to any 4.5gen fighter like the Gripens. Your aircrafts systems are obsolete and that's a fact you won't even detect a Gripen.

You only have 3 F-7 pilots and that's a fact, or can you prove it. We have posted here numerous times that we have over 14 pilots and its more then enough to handle all your obsolete F-7's. Your NA is so hopeless it needed Chad and SA mercenaries to turn the tide against boko 15 year old desert goat herders.

You have no domestically manufactured AAM in Russia or any other country so stop talking shiit here the hole world knows this. The US/Nato won't sell you shiiit because of your poor human rights record, your Buhari with all his beggars couldn't even persuade the US Senate to over turn its LEAHY LAW. So you don't have no modern western systems unless you get second hand-hand me downs or you go get inferior Pak/Chinese systems. You have a dumb bomb nation airforce.

This is the exact reason why i said your overall military Knowledge is minute.

A HMS doesn't guarantee air-craft kills you hopeless retard! Dog fight kills within visual range boils down to a varying number of factors, and a HMS is useless if the range of the missile doesn't match the range of the enemy's aircraft.

The Nigeria Air Force simply has missiles which have a 90% Kill probability and a better range than whatever the SAAF has in service.

On the PL-9C,

The missile is fitted with a cryogenic liquid nitrogen gas-cooled IR seeker capable of +/-40 degree off boresight angles. Flight control is by long span pointed delta fins at the front of the missile with Sidewinder-type slipstream driven rollerons on the aft tail fin surfaces to prevent roll and so enhance the operation of the guidance system. The missile has a maximum effective range of 35 km and an altitude limit of 6.5 km. The single-shot hit probability for a single missile launch at an approaching target is 90%.

The PL-9C is capable of hitting any target you dummy!



The SAAF has no Marlin BVR, you don't have them. You cannot field what you do not have. The likeliest time the SAAF would field any BVR missile is at least 20 - 25 years from now.


Nigerian Air Force F-7 jets are a 3.5gen multi-role fighters. They have and continue to perform Air-to-Air missions, Air(to-Ground missions, Recon missions and Close air support missions. Evidence is all over this thread with multiple Videos and Pictures to back up.

Infact i only recently posted NAF F-7 Air-to-Ground/ recon mission videos.

All Fighters are based on pre-existing designs you M0ron! Everything from the F-22 to the T-50 is based on a previous aircraft, that is how fighters are built!

The Gripen C/D is an over-priced roundly rejected fighter. It is the air-craft nobody wants! Compare that to the F-7 which is a widely used, owned and combat proven platform.


Why don't you prove the NAF has 3 pilots, I can and have on many occasions provided evidence which clearly shows the SAAF Gripen fleet has a chronic pilot shortage, with none of your Pilots been combat qualified.

SA mercenaries like the "mechanic" leon lotz....... Nigeria turned your Apartheid Special forces Soldiers into pathetic little mechanics who had no choice than to run down here to beg for food to feed their families...... LOL!. ............... You sure showed Nigeria!



According to Dictatorzar, U.S/NATO won't sell us shiit!

- U.S.A (NATO), 6 Beechcraft ISTAR and Transport planes

- U.S.A (NATO), 4 Attrition replacement Alpha jets.

- Czech Republic (NATO), 3 ISR planes
-Czech Republic (NATO), 57 T-72 Tanks

- Canada (NATO), over 100 APCs and MRAPs

- Canada (NATO), Aeryon battlefield drones

- France ( NATO), Fennec Helicoptes

- France ( NATO), EC456 Helicopters

- France (NATO), Gazelle Helicopters

-Turkey (NATO), possible T-129 Helicopters

- Turkey (NATO), Otokar Cobras

- Italy ( NATO), CX4 Berratta

- Poland (NATO), state-of-the-art Beryl Rifles

- U.K (NATO), State-of-the-art Radar systems for our Ships and NNS Andoni

- CZECH Republic (NATO), RM-70 MRLS

- CZECH Republic (NATO), BVP-1 IFV


Doctatorzar, thank you for proving your military knowledge is very minute. I was spot-on on my overall assessment.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 12:15am On Aug 21, 2015
patches689:

Says who?
Why don't you start by showing us a photo of SAAF or SA army seeker?

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 12:25am On Aug 21, 2015
patches689:


1. A-darter is a full generation ahead of your missile. Can do off-bore targeting, is largely immune to countermeasures and can pull 100G turns. It is utterly superior.

2. No, you have 9-10 since 2 or 3 of your F-7s have crashed

Last i checked 14 4th Gen Gripen is better than 10 3.5 gen F7's

No Gripen have been grounded and we have more Gripen pilots (in 2013) than you have F7s in total

And yea, actually, there are multiple articles outlining the MASSIVE problem that the NAAF has with keeping its Jets in the air.


3. There is absolutely ZERO evidence to suggest that pur Grip pilots are not combat qualified. If you wish to make that assertion then you must provide proof - or else you are simply trolling

Yet again we see henry120 resorting to his time honored tactics - ignore all the evidence that doesnt suit him, and repeate the same thing over and over in the hopes that he will convince himself that its true.

Truly pathetic

1. PL-9C also does off-bore targeting, and also has the added advantage of having a longer range. Your A-Darter is not largely immune to counter-measures, you hopeless liar!


2. Nigeria has 12 F-7 Jets in operational service. We purchased 15. 3 minus 15 doesn't equal 9 you du1lard!


3. Your 4 GEN Gripens are all useless when you have no combat qualified pilot. "What's the use of a Ferrari without a driver?".

4. 12 Gripen Jets are almost always in long term storage at any one time. You cannot fly them, cannot fuel them, cannot afford them.

The Hopelessness of the SAAF!


5. Articles abound which show S.A's Gripen fleet are rarely flown and cannot muster more than 9 pilots. Evidence previously provided proof SAAF Gripen crew simply are poorly trained, and lack the flying time to be qualified!
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 1:03am On Aug 21, 2015
patches689:


Quality > Quantity


Nigeria has both
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 1:15am On Aug 21, 2015
mzilakazi:
I WILL SMILE IF EVER I CAN FIGHT MILITARY WEARING THIS CAMO AT ANY TERRAIN. I WILL BE REST ASSURED THAT VICTORY IS CERTAIN.


JUST LOOK AT THESE SANTA CLAUS

That's Nigerian navy sea camp off ship, blue-green-grey, prefer bland for sea in an open boat or creeks/swamps with vegetaion.

No navy in the world can use one camp, you need standard white, white over black, blue over black, black for night naval commandos, and a camo for shores with vegetation.

Having one single camo for an army navy air force, is a stupid possibility for a poorly dressed military force that will be operating in very contrastingly different natural terrain.

There is a smart reason why God created smart chamellion to change and blend it's coloure to hide with different environments on nature
.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 2:09am On Aug 21, 2015
Henry120:


This is the exact reason why i said your overall military Knowledge is minute.

A HMS doesn't guarantee air-craft kills you hopeless retard! Dog fight kills within visual range boils down to a varying number of factors, and a HMS is useless if the range of the missile doesn't match the range of the enemy's aircraft.

The Nigeria Air Force simply has missiles which have a 90% Kill probability and a better range than whatever the SAAF has in service.

On the PL-9C,

The missile is fitted with a cryogenic liquid nitrogen gas-cooled IR seeker capable of +/-40 degree off boresight angles. Flight control is by long span pointed delta fins at the front of the missile with Sidewinder-type slipstream driven rollerons on the aft tail fin surfaces to prevent roll and so enhance the operation of the guidance system. The missile has a maximum effective range of 35 km and an altitude limit of 6.5 km. The single-shot hit probability for a single missile launch at an approaching target is 90%.

The PL-9C is capable of hitting any target you dummy!



The SAAF has no Marlin BVR, you don't have them. You cannot field what you do not have. The likeliest time the SAAF would field any BVR missile is at least 20 - 25 years from now.


Nigerian Air Force F-7 jets are a 3.5gen multi-role fighters. They have and continue to perform Air-to-Air missions, Air(to-Ground missions, Recon missions and Close air support missions. Evidence is all over this thread with multiple Videos and Pictures to back up.

Infact i only recently posted NAF F-7 Air-to-Ground/ recon mission videos.

All Fighters are based on pre-existing designs you M0ron! Everything from the F-22 to the T-50 is based on a previous aircraft, that is how fighters are built!

The Gripen C/D is an over-priced roundly rejected fighter. It is the air-craft nobody wants! Compare that to the F-7 which is a widely used, owned and combat proven platform.


Why don't you prove the NAF has 3 pilots, I can and have on many occasions provided evidence which clearly shows the SAAF Gripen fleet has a chronic pilot shortage, with none of your Pilots been combat qualified.

SA mercenaries like the "mechanic" leon lotz....... Nigeria turned your Apartheid Special forces Soldiers into pathetic little mechanics who had no choice than to run down here to beg for food to feed their families...... LOL!. ............... You sure showed Nigeria!



According to Dictatorzar, U.S/NATO won't sell us shiit!

-Czech Republic (NATO), 57 T-72 Tanks

- Canada (NATO), over 100 APCs and MRAPs

- Canada (NATO), Aeryon battlefield drones

- France ( NATO), Fennec Helicoptes

- France ( NATO), EC456 Helicopters

- France (NATO), Gazelle Helicopters

-Turkey (NATO), possible T-129 Helicopters

- Turkey (NATO), Otokar Cobras

- Italy ( NATO), CX4 Berratta

- Poland (NATO), state-of-the-art Beryl Rifles

- U.K (NATO), State-of-the-art Radar systems for our Ships and NNS Andoni

- CZECH Republic (NATO), RM-70 MRLS

- CZECH Republic (NATO), BVP-1 IFV


Doctatorzar, thank you for proving your military knowledge is very minute. I was spot-on on my overall assessment.


1. A-darter and HMD mean that dogfighting skills are irrelevent.

2. You dont have BVR either

3. Lol "Gripen the fighter that nobody wants" - tell that to Hungary, Sweden, Czechs, South Africa, Thailand, Brazil and the Argentinians (who wanted it)

4 . your F7s have no recon pods and no ability to deploy pgms

5. You have never provided a shred of evidence to support any of your claims about gripen pilots

Henry120, you can keep tryong to convince yourself that your 12 OBSOLETE and poorly maintained fighters with OBSOLETE missiles are somehow as good as Gripen armed with the Adarter - but the only person you are fooling is yourself
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 2:14am On Aug 21, 2015
jln115:

I know they belong to SAAF retaard!! The fact remains they fulfil the EXACT same job that a navy air arm does!!

Jap you posted photos of normal civilian Lynx helicopters, not anything that even remotely resembles an ASW platform!!

You cannot have a navy air arm that belongs to the air force, the registration nu ver is air force and the pilots are are force, they only help your incomplete navy you morööön !

Go bask to SIPRI arms database, and NATO sources, Nigerian navy Lynx have their radars hidden inside nose cone and ASW sonar hidden inside cabin, I posted the 2D image here with labellings to educate you 50 million dullard spërm eggs fertilized in South Africa by breeding error, you guys should have cross-bred your nation with Zimbabweans
.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 2:16am On Aug 21, 2015
Henry120:


Why don't you start by showing us a photo of SAAF or SA army seeker?

I am not making claims

You are

So back them up with proof

No proof = trolling
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 2:17am On Aug 21, 2015
mzilakazi:



Nigeria must not blame their woes unto others but themselves. Their poor handling of BH insurgency and incompetent military is a factor.


OH, sorry Nigeria has no PGMS.

Nigeria has AR-1 PGM missiles, South Africa only has PGM bombs that we can easily shøøt down and waste
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 2:21am On Aug 21, 2015
Henry120:


1. PL-9C also does off-bore targeting, and also has the added advantage of having a longer range. Your A-Darter is not largely immune to counter-measures, you hopeless liar!


2. Nigeria has 12 F-7 Jets in operational service. We purchased 15. 3 minus 15 doesn't equal 9 you du1lard!


3. Your 4 GEN Gripens are all useless when you have no combat qualified pilot. "What's the use of a Ferrari without a driver?".

4. 12 Gripen Jets are almost always in long term storage at any one time. You cannot fly them, cannot fuel them, cannot afford them.

The Hopelessness of the SAAF!


5. Articles abound which show S.A's Gripen fleet are rarely flown and cannot muster more than 9 pilots. Evidence previously provided proof SAAF Gripen crew simply are poorly trained, and lack the flying time to be qualified!

1. A-darter is a full generation ahead, can pull 100G turns and engage target BEHIND the aircraft. We also have HMD thus we have WVR superiority. Read about the A-darter, it is largely immune to countermeasures.

2. Meh, 14 Gripen > 12 F7. Are all your F7 operational at the same time?

3. Who says they are not combat qualified?

4. As proven with sources ZERO Gripen are in storage. Stop making things up

5. What proof? I keep asking and you keep refusing to provide any. all your "sources" have been debunked
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 2:24am On Aug 21, 2015
agaugust:


Nigeria has AR-1 PGM missiles, South Africa only has PGM bombs that we can easily shøøt down and waste
.

1. Prove you can shoot them down

2. Ar-1 are launched from drones that are easy to eradicate
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 2:29am On Aug 21, 2015
jln115:

Its a BVR missile, not a dumb rocket mate!

Then the rockets Nigeria is testfiring at EPE project center are missiles too
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 2:34am On Aug 21, 2015
jln115:

It reaches the northern part of Darfur as well, where we were based!

Sahara desert ends at Khartoum capital of Sudan you ïïdiot.

SANDF will never deloy inside Sudan's capital, ordinary Toyota boys will use AK-47 to force your cowardly army stripp down to their boxers with their jalo jalo hanging out for display on you too, girls will be watching it as it goes viral on facebook
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 2:37am On Aug 21, 2015
mzilakazi:


How about MRAPS from South Africa?

Inferior to our Chinese made Big Foot MRAP
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 2:44am On Aug 21, 2015
DictatorZAR:


The analyst once again conveniently forgot that each year a F-7 crashes in nigeria
http://itweb.co.za/mobilesite/defenceweb/home/item_id-25316/

Your source says 2012, so show is source of F-7 crash in 2013, 2014, 2015.

Creative old man liar cheesycheesy

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