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Re: Babatunde Fowler Has Fake Honorary Doctorate Degree - Sahara Reporters by espn(m): 7:49am On Aug 21, 2015 |
BeeBeeOoh:what did you do about the last administration... |
Re: Babatunde Fowler Has Fake Honorary Doctorate Degree - Sahara Reporters by kraftykc(m): 8:04am On Aug 21, 2015 |
atlwireles: It's an HONORARY DEGREE, hence he didn't have to go to school for it. It's just not important. That said, if this is true homie better resign gently. |
Re: Babatunde Fowler Has Fake Honorary Doctorate Degree - Sahara Reporters by Samdemmy(m): 8:13am On Aug 21, 2015 |
EgusiSoup: You should rather be the one to go for a brain surgery for displaying your cluelessness and ignorance here. Honorary Doctorate degree is not a prerequisite for landing a job, since it's not an academic qualification. It can be awarded to anybody in recognition of the person's contributions to the society or humanity irrespective of the person's academic background, even Madam Patience Jonathan was awarded at least two while she was the First Lady. What you should be more concerned is if his B.sc, M.sc and whatever academic qualifications he claims to have are genuine or not. |
Re: Babatunde Fowler Has Fake Honorary Doctorate Degree - Sahara Reporters by sherbol: 8:21am On Aug 21, 2015 |
i think u r d one dat nids brain surgery. how on earth will u beliv dis hook, line n sinker?u r foolishly gullible! EgusiSoup: |
Re: Babatunde Fowler Has Fake Honorary Doctorate Degree - Sahara Reporters by Demdem(m): 8:38am On Aug 21, 2015 |
atlwireles: Rumuola thug, when did u start believing Sahara reporters ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Re: Babatunde Fowler Has Fake Honorary Doctorate Degree - Sahara Reporters by Nobody: 8:51am On Aug 21, 2015 |
OZAOEKPE: You are still waiting for Kanu? You will wait till eternity, Biafra is dead forever. Biafra exist only in your dreams and imagination Good morning |
Re: Babatunde Fowler Has Fake Honorary Doctorate Degree - Sahara Reporters by OZAOEKPE(f): 8:54am On Aug 21, 2015 |
JayJohnson:Please tell that to the children on "Amadioha" |
Re: Babatunde Fowler Has Fake Honorary Doctorate Degree - Sahara Reporters by mojeer678: 9:11am On Aug 21, 2015 |
atlwireles: Isn't Fowler the guy who ferried Lagosians to Dubai for his daughter's wedding while he was still in govt? PMB's security background checkers must have missed that fact, I guess. 1 Like |
Re: Babatunde Fowler Has Fake Honorary Doctorate Degree - Sahara Reporters by free13: 9:39am On Aug 21, 2015 |
Chanji... ![]() |
Re: Babatunde Fowler Has Fake Honorary Doctorate Degree - Sahara Reporters by Myself2(m): 9:55am On Aug 21, 2015 |
Abugab: FIRS headship is a very sensitive position that must be filled by a man not just honest and transparent in all his ways,but he must be seen to be so. BTW,why are you playing the devil's advocate??what if Tunde Fowler got the fake doctorate degree after learning of the blacklist of the school ![]() ![]() |
Re: Babatunde Fowler Has Fake Honorary Doctorate Degree - Sahara Reporters by Myself2(m): 10:00am On Aug 21, 2015 |
mojeer678: One and the same Tunde Fowler,,,,,I'm not surprised,APC is a party of liars and hypocrites 1 Like |
Re: Babatunde Fowler Has Fake Honorary Doctorate Degree - Sahara Reporters by ejirede: 10:03am On Aug 21, 2015 |
When did the wailers start beleiving sahara reporters ? |
Re: Babatunde Fowler Has Fake Honorary Doctorate Degree - Sahara Reporters by frisky2good(m): 10:04am On Aug 21, 2015 |
Is that not the same man that insisted that jobless people in Lagos have to pay PAYE tax? |
Re: Babatunde Fowler Has Fake Honorary Doctorate Degree - Sahara Reporters by JuanDeDios: 11:35am On Aug 21, 2015 |
PassingShot: Nobody has said Buhari has done anything wrong here. Now these allegations have surfaced, what the president should do is ask the NIA to investigate those foreign certificates. Under Jonathan's odious government, it won't matter. Under Buhari's change government, it should. It seems you don’t understand what the problem is. Let me spell it out – * The fact this doctorate from a less than ok university was read in his citation by Buhari's spokesman means he himself included it in his CV and the government didn’t bother to check. * The fact he parades himself as a doctor (on his website) when he has no PhD or medical degree, against the stipulations of the Committee of Vice Chancellors, though not a crime, calls his moral character into question. * It is right to point out anything that is not on the level regarding someone being appointed into high office so you have no case against the vigilant media here. The government should make findings and come out to tell us the result. The government may say something like, “Nigerians, our attention was drawn to some issues raised against Babatunde Fowler. We can tell you that the issue of his doctorate is immaterial since it was an honourary degree. But since the university is less than reputable we should not have included it in his citation. The error is regretted. On the matter of his degrees, we can confirm that he obtained his first degree from the University of Wisconsin at ____________. Bla bla bla.” That should settle the matter. Thank you. And, mind you, Buhari has wasted the country's three months or so yet no cabinet - with the attendant economic losses. He better come up with a mix of angels and archangels to justify that. Not a bunch of people with question marks trailing them. |
Re: Babatunde Fowler Has Fake Honorary Doctorate Degree - Sahara Reporters by prestigediva1: 11:39am On Aug 21, 2015 |
Guess u will be the first to..... EgusiSoup: |
Re: Babatunde Fowler Has Fake Honorary Doctorate Degree - Sahara Reporters by PassingShot(m): 11:46am On Aug 21, 2015 |
JuanDeDios:Sorry, I disagree completely with you. That the degree was included in his citation is not a crime as far as there is no proof so far that it's fake. That he has it on his website and addresses himself is also not an issue as far as the award is genuine. That the university is "less than reputable" or "blacklisted" as some of you claim still doesn't make the award fake. The degree ONLY becomes fake if and when it is proved that "the less than reputable" university didn't really honor him with it. And mind you, Buhari has wasted the country's four months or so yet no cabinet - with the attendant economic losses. He better come up with a mix of angels and archangels to justify that. Not a bunch of people with question marks trailing them.From May 29th to August 21st is not four months my friend. It's not even three months yet. You only expose yourself for what you are - a wailing wailer. And what are the economic losses you're talking about? I am willing to engage you on them if you bring something reasonable up. |
Re: Babatunde Fowler Has Fake Honorary Doctorate Degree - Sahara Reporters by Isuata: 1:01pm On Aug 21, 2015 |
Mr. I am pressed to give you a reply as you have ignorantly stuck to a position which should not make sense to you as you write before you post. - Honorary Degree - Blacklisted University - Bestowed -Forged? ![]() Please tell me you see how your argument does not hold water? I would believe, if a university is blacklisted, it is either all degrees awarded previously by that institution will be rendered void or an agreement reached on how to validate those degrees. What constitutes forgery, would have been if the said Fowler paid or dubiously arranged a Doctorate degree for himself without following due-educational process. The due-educational process for awarding a doctorate degree was explained above somewhere-please make use of that explanation and review your comments on this matter. As for this SH matter they have done their duty to report news, they should have gone ahead to analyse the news also but really, their primary objective is to report news, every other thing is secondary. I am amazed at how some older members on this section reacted to this news- it doesnt make any sense! ronald4lif: |
Re: Babatunde Fowler Has Fake Honorary Doctorate Degree - Sahara Reporters by awumen: 1:41pm On Aug 21, 2015 |
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Re: Babatunde Fowler Has Fake Honorary Doctorate Degree - Sahara Reporters by pcicero(m): 2:20pm On Aug 21, 2015 |
Sagamite: This sums it all up. I mean guys it's needless defending some sh*ts. 1 Like |
Re: Babatunde Fowler Has Fake Honorary Doctorate Degree - Sahara Reporters by wiseoneking: 2:20pm On Aug 21, 2015 |
Abugab:If it were Daziani, Gej, you will never see anything wrong with sahara report. They are now liars. |
Re: Babatunde Fowler Has Fake Honorary Doctorate Degree - Sahara Reporters by JuanDeDios: 4:00pm On Aug 21, 2015 |
PassingShot: No, I won't engage you, because you you can't be engaged. How can someone who can't differentiate between criminal liability and moral baggage discuss macroeconomics? I said "three months or so" - I knew it wasn't an exact statement to make - you're grasping at straws. And your labelling me shows you can't think properly or take your own advice about checking people's posting history. Why do you keep harping on the words "crime" and "fake" even after I have not disputed your position on those and clearly stated I am only concerned about moral baggage on the part of someone getting into high office? Yeah, it's Nigeria. And it's your party. |
Re: Babatunde Fowler Has Fake Honorary Doctorate Degree - Sahara Reporters by Mark4reel: 4:13pm On Aug 21, 2015 |
What all this hulla bally about a degree, for me i don't give a damn even if he likes let him present a nepa bill as certificate as long as he is competent and has track record which we all know he has let him be the FIRS boss |
Re: Babatunde Fowler Has Fake Honorary Doctorate Degree - Sahara Reporters by PassingShot(m): 4:32pm On Aug 21, 2015 |
JuanDeDios:You're a bare faced liar and as such not worth the trouble. You clearly wrote four months and not the "three months" or so. Good I quoted you and as such can't be denied. Done with you. |
Re: Babatunde Fowler Has Fake Honorary Doctorate Degree - Sahara Reporters by JuanDeDios: 4:41pm On Aug 21, 2015 |
PassingShot:Oh, that? Yes. I wrote four months. Then I clicked modify and changed it to three when I realised my error. Actually, I thought you were quibbling about the three months and I didn't know you quoted four months. You'd need more than an error like that to prove me a liar since I have debated with based on facts available from two materials. Anyway, strange how you have reduced this to how many months Buhari has been in office. That is not an important point. We all worked for a change of government from the morally-bankrupt PDP but you partisans won't let us criticise. You see yellow and say it's green. SR did far more than you to bring change to Nigeria. Farook Kperogi is a Buharist, if ever there was one. But there are thinking Buharists and there are unthinking Buharists. Your types are the problem with Nigeria. |
Re: Babatunde Fowler Has Fake Honorary Doctorate Degree - Sahara Reporters by PassingShot(m): 4:51pm On Aug 21, 2015 |
JuanDeDios:Boy, what is your point? I have proved to you that the degree in question is not fake based on definitions of "fake" and you have agreed. On your part, you want the presidency to acknowledge an error based on the unproven allegation even though no error exists until proven. So, what is your argument per se? I state again that: 1. There is no moral burden on the man or the FG to prove that the degree is fake. 2. It is those who allege that have to prove it is fake. After all, it is morally wrong to allege without facts based on investigation. What has SR or Farooq being Buharists got to do with the argument? Or you expect that because one Farooq or SR say something, people don't have to use their God-given brain to think things through? I ask you again, what is your main problems? The moral burden is on SR and Farooq to prove that the honorary award is fake and not anyone else. That the uni is "blacklisted" doesn't make the awards they've given out become fake? Or does it? |
Re: Babatunde Fowler Has Fake Honorary Doctorate Degree - Sahara Reporters by JuanDeDios: 5:17pm On Aug 21, 2015 |
PassingShot:No, kiddo, that is not what I said. Read again. This time, slowly. PassingShot: Read my posts. PassingShot:I will explain this carefully so you can see link. Now, read your own post again. You brought "wailing wailers" into this, implying that only Buhari's enemies would be interested in this matter. PassingShot:No. But I'd remove it from my CV to avoid embarrassments and distractions like this one. (I'm even prepared to accept it was an oversight, hence my earlier post which you cited wrongly.) And, of course, I wouldn't be so vain as to parade myself as "Dr" with some "honourary" piece of paper against the position of those charged with such matters in the country. Why have it just now been removed from his Wikipedia page, as people are saying? If it is okay to leave it on his CV, why not leave it on Wikipedia? And you say the government has no business investigating or responding to clear up things and avoid distractions Buhari and Nigeria don't need at this time. SR and Kperogi have no moral burden. To illustrate, ever heard of plagiarism in academics? If someone says you plagiarised his work, he has not alleged a crime, he has only called your moral character and fitness to be a prof or an academic into question. The school's senate will investigate the allegation and if proved, the prof in question will be fired. He is not a criminal but he has a morally broken character. But this is something you can't comprehend, even if I spent a thousand years explaining it. You will keep yodeling about "crime" and "fake" and other issues I'm not disputing. This is a waste of time. Cheers. Carry go. You done win. |
Re: Babatunde Fowler Has Fake Honorary Doctorate Degree - Sahara Reporters by PassingShot(m): 5:36pm On Aug 21, 2015 |
JuanDeDios:You're a huge joke really! You keep denying your statements. If not, what do you mean by this statement of yours if not that the FG should acknowledge an error? “Nigerians, our attention was drawn to some issues raised against Babatunde Fowler. We can tell you that the issue of his doctorate is immaterial since it was an honourary degree. But since the university is less than reputable we should not have included it in his citation. The error is regretted. On the matter of his degrees, we can confirm that he obtained his first degree from the University of Wisconsin at ____________. Bla bla bla.” That should settle the matter. I will explain this carefully so you can see link. Now, read your own post again. You brought "wailing wailers" into this, implying that only Buhari's enemies would be interested in this matter.Anyone who reasons upside down can rightly be called a wailing wailer. So? No. But I'd remove it from my CV to avoid embarrassments and distractions like this one. (I'm even prepared to accept it was an oversight, hence my earlier post which you cited wrongly.) And, of course, I wouldn't be so vain as to parade myself as "Dr" with some "honourary" piece of paper against the position of those charged with such matters in the country. Why have it just now been removed from his Wikipedia page, as people are saying? If it is okay to leave it on his CV, why not leave it on Wikipedia? And you say the government has no business investigating or responding to clear up things and avoid distractions Buhari and Nigeria don't need at this time.The first word ("No" ![]() Whether he chooses to be addressed as "Dr." or not is not our business. Throughout the world, people answer "Doctor" based on honorary degrees. Fact! That you won't do it doesn't make it morally wrong for another person who chooses to do it. And again you lied about it being removed from his Wikipedia page. I just checked it and it's there https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Babatunde_Fowler It says In recognition of his works, Fowler was awarded Honorary Senior Member of The Chartered Institute of Bankers of Nigeria in 2004, conferred with fellowship ‘Honoris Causa’ by Certified Board of Administrators of Nigeria in May 2007 and Professional Honorary Doctorate Degree in June 2007 by the Irish International University. He is also a Fellow of both the Chartered Institute of Taxation of Nigeria, and Business Management Association (UK). Fowler was named as the Outstanding Government Personality of the Year (2014) by the organisers of the Leadership Award For African Achievers amongst other notable African leaders who were awarded in different categories of human endeavours by the event organisers.[13] SR and Kperogi have no moral burden. To illustrate, ever heard of plagiarism in academics? If someone says you plagiarised his work, he has not alleged a crime, he has only called your moral character and fitness to be a prof or an academic into question. The school's senate will investigate the allegation and if proved, the prof in question will be fired. He is not a criminal but he has a morally broken character. But this is something you can't comprehend, even if I spent a thousand years explaining it. You will keep yodeling about "crime" and "fake" and other issues I'm not disputing.Wrong again. It's a common saying that "the burden of proof lies with who alleges. So spare the preaching. This is a waste of time. Cheers. Carry go. You done win.I know. It's what people with no points to defend their position say. Take care. |
Re: Babatunde Fowler Has Fake Honorary Doctorate Degree - Sahara Reporters by JuanDeDios: 5:52pm On Aug 21, 2015 |
PassingShot: Correction: Earlier, I wrote this: "Why have it just now been removed from his Wikipedia page, as people are saying?" It was from his profile on the Lagos State Internal Revenue Service website that Fowler deleted the reference to his honorary doctorate from the Irish International University. He also deleted the "Dr." prefix in his name. Yesterday. For those not familiar with the subject, Mr Babatunde Fowler got an honourary doctorate from a fake university (difference between that and fake doctorate is one between six and half a dozen) and has commenced deletion of same from public portals. Not sure yet how he will delete it from the CVs and profile he submitted to President Buhari. Anyway, na Naija we dey. The rest of what Mr PassingShot wrote above only betrays his inability to comprehend posts. |
Re: Babatunde Fowler Has Fake Honorary Doctorate Degree - Sahara Reporters by PassingShot(m): 6:24pm On Aug 21, 2015 |
JuanDeDios:You keep sinking deeper with further attempt to defend your position with lies! First, why will you rely on "what people say" to arrive at an end? Enlightened and learned fellows don't do that. Secondly, you clearly wrote "Wikipedia" and not LIRS. How did you arrive at the conclusion that the university is fake? Yesterday it was said the school was blacklisted and now you say fake! Look, you've clearly lost the argument with a lie per post and a denial of many of your statements. |
Re: Babatunde Fowler Has Fake Honorary Doctorate Degree - Sahara Reporters by suremanpatriot: 3:57am On Jul 09, 2017 |
mhbabanna:My message is clear and generic tht ppl should stop maligning good ppl because of their missteps, everyone has cockroaches in their cupboard too. |
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