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Catholics Don't Worship Mary by 0micheal735: 6:08pm On Aug 21, 2015 |
Do Catholics Worship Mary?
Many Evangelicals think the word "pray" means
"worship." So it makes sense that they think
Catholics who "pray" to Mary actually "worship"
her. Let's look up the word "pray" in the
dictionary. Here is what Webster's says about the
word pray:
(1) To utter petition to God ... (2) To make a
fervent request: PLEAD (3) To beseech: implore
(4) to make a devout or earnest request for.
The first thing to notice is that the word
"worship" is not included in the definition of
"pray." It does not mean "worship." A prayer to
Mary is clearly not a petition to God. Mary is not
God, and there is not one faithful Catholic since
the apostles who has said she is. So clearly it is
not the first meaning.
The English language is often limited in that we
often have to use the same word to say different
things. There are several meanings of the word
"pray." When Catholics pray to God they "utter a
petition to God." When they pray to Mary and the
Saints they are making a "devout or earnest
request for" prayers from Mary or the saints. In
mediaeval times when a royal court official was
asking something of a person who outranked him,
he would say "I pray thee your majesty." You
have to say that in an English accent to get the
full effect! The person was simply making a
request in a polite manner.
Catholics think Mary is a prayer warrior. That's her
job. We think she was given a full-time 24/7
prayer ministry. She said, "all generations will call
me Blessed" and "my soul magnifies the
Lord" (Luke 1:46). Catholics think this is
significant.
"The veneration of Mary is inscribed in the very
depths of the human heart."
- Martin Luther, Sermon - September 1, 1522
There is a difference between veneration of Mary
and worship of Jesus. This was formalized in
writing way back in 757 AD at the Seventh
General Council:
1. Latria - adoration that is given to the Trinity alone;
occurs 5 times in the Bible but always refers to
God (Jn 16:2, Rm:9:4, 12:6, Heb 9:1,6)
2. Hyper-dulia - veneration to Mary (as the mother of
God)
3. Dulia - honor paid to saints and angels; occurs 5
times in the Bible (Rm 8:15, 21; Gal 4:24, 5:1;
Heb 2:15)
There are plenty of Old Testament references that
distinguish veneration from worship. "Then Moses
went out to meet his father in law, and he bowed
down and kissed him.." (Exo 18:7)...(also 1 Chron
29:20, 1 Sam 24:
Some evangelicals say "consecration" shows that
Catholics worship Mary. The word "consecrate"
means to entrust. I entrust myself to my closest
friends but only one is my Savior.
“Never be afraid of loving the Blessed Virgin too
much. You can never love her more than Jesus
did.”
- St. Maximilian Kolbe (a priest who died in
Auschwitz as a result of taking the place of a
father, who was then present at Kolbe's
canonization 50 years later) 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Catholics Don't Worship Mary by ibadanfinest(m): 6:10pm On Aug 21, 2015 |
who do they worship o |
Re: Catholics Don't Worship Mary by Jeromejnr(m): 6:25pm On Aug 21, 2015 |
@OP please then explain this I saw one of your fellows saying: Mary my Queen and my Mother i Love and serve thee and show my devotion to thee i concentrate my eyes ears my mouth and heart wherefor as thine own keep me and guide me as their property Amen What is worship: showing devotion to something. The way some Catohloic are devoted to Mary, I pity for their souls. God said He is a jealous God. And He will share His glory with no one. |
Re: Catholics Don't Worship Mary by Nobody: 6:50pm On Aug 21, 2015 |
we are honoring Mary we are honor....ing we 're honoring Mary neva worshiping..... people say we worship her but not at all everybody shout for d joy of honoring mary!!! i lov diz song mum taught me back den |
Re: Catholics Don't Worship Mary by Efisko1(m): 6:54pm On Aug 21, 2015 |
MrKontrovErsy: i can hear sm1 singing in 5D...... dey way Protestant argue, i wonda if mary never carried God in her innocent worm..... 1 Like |
Re: Catholics Don't Worship Mary by Nobody: 7:04pm On Aug 21, 2015 |
Efisko1: lol dont mind those ignorant bro dats one reason they shud av atleast respect her dey betta set things right befo its late |
Re: Catholics Don't Worship Mary by Efisko1(m): 8:04pm On Aug 21, 2015 |
MrKontrovErsy: an anoda tin dey fail 2 knw is dat,,, Catholic doesn't Begin its facts only frm dey Bible an end in dey Bible.......guy shey u knw......? 1 Like |
Re: Catholics Don't Worship Mary by Jeromejnr(m): 8:20pm On Aug 21, 2015 |
See some folks above me consoling themselves. |
Re: Catholics Don't Worship Mary by Efisko1(m): 8:29pm On Aug 21, 2015 |
Jeromejnr: hv u heard of secret tradition hv u heard of magisterium an den we hv dey scriptures..... #u_go_see_doctrine_fear |
Re: Catholics Don't Worship Mary by 0micheal735: 8:29pm On Aug 21, 2015 |
We don't worship mary rather we honor her like the saints in the bible. We are only calling our mother mary to intercede and pray for us. It seems most of us here do not know the meaning of PRAYER..prayer do not mean worship,That's where most of us who are not catholic couldn't understand Why is that the penticostals go to there pastors to pray for them Is your pastor greater than the mother of God it is written in the bible that all ages shall call her blessed....to mai realization its only the catholic that is honoring her. Every part of the bible is important we all knows that, why don't we preach about the works of the saint so we can also learn from them....mai brothers and sisters let's try and remove the spirit of sentiment from our religion 1 Like |
Re: Catholics Don't Worship Mary by Jeromejnr(m): 8:34pm On Aug 21, 2015 |
0micheal735: Okay, so with the millions of Christians in the world all praying to Mary at the same time, how is she supposed to handle all that request? Is she Omniscient? Is she also Omnipresent? Don't you tink you are disturbing her from enjoying her treasures in heaven? |
Re: Catholics Don't Worship Mary by 0micheal735: 8:36pm On Aug 21, 2015 |
Its high time we give her the dignity she deserves. The most unique privilege of our Lady is not her virginity or her humility, but motherhood. The evangelist Matthew very crisply expressed the truth of Mother Mary’s motherhood when he said, “Of whom Jesus was born, who is called Christ (1:16).” The motherhood of Mary is a unique dignity granted only to her and to her alone. It is an unrepeated and unrepeatable dignity granted to her. No other mortal can ever share in that dignity. 1 Like |
Re: Catholics Don't Worship Mary by 0micheal735: 8:47pm On Aug 21, 2015 |
Jeromejnr: Because those in Heaven (i.e. the Saints) are outside of time, there is no past or present by their perception--only one great present. We can't understand why this is because we are mortal beings and bound by the limits of time. The saints are not believed to be omniscient as God is, however we believe it is by God's will that the saints be allowed to hear our prayers. We see in Scripture references to prayer of the saints, most notably Revelation 5:8 |
Re: Catholics Don't Worship Mary by 0micheal735: 8:48pm On Aug 21, 2015 |
Since Jesus Christ died on the cross and rose
from the dead, conquering death for us, there is
no reason why we cannot ask those in heaven to
pray for us just as we ask those still living on
earth for their prayers. After all, in Christ all are
alive. Therefore we ask the Ever-Virgin Nary to
pray to her Son for us, just as we also ask the
angels, the saints ,and all faithful believers here
on earth to pray on our behalf, as Scripture
Commands us to do: "I exhort therefore, that,
first of all, supplications, prayers, intercessions,
and giving of thanks, be made for all men... I will
therefore, that men pray everywhere (I Tim.
2:1,. We turn readily to our friends and
neighbors to ask for their prayers in our time of
need; are not those in heaven even more our
friends than those on earth? Why should they not
intercede for us also before the throne of God? |
Re: Catholics Don't Worship Mary by Nobody: 8:56pm On Aug 21, 2015 |
Efisko1: tru dat! |
Re: Catholics Don't Worship Mary by Jeromejnr(m): 9:03pm On Aug 21, 2015 |
0micheal735:Well, even though I know that's not what that scripture meant. Has Mary in any way answered your prayers? |
Re: Catholics Don't Worship Mary by Efisko1(m): 10:40pm On Aug 21, 2015 |
MrKontrovErsy:are u in any Pius organization sir....? |
Re: Catholics Don't Worship Mary by Nobody: 10:42pm On Aug 21, 2015 |
Re: Catholics Don't Worship Mary by 0micheal735: 11:22pm On Aug 21, 2015 |
Jeromejnr: She has been prayin for me and I believe God has ben answering her |
Re: Catholics Don't Worship Mary by Efisko1(m): 3:38am On Aug 22, 2015 |
MrKontrovErsy:a legionary.... |
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