MrPresident1:
First and foremost, it is very important to bring the Bible down to 'earth'. Everything in the Bible happened here on this earth, no event happened in 'heaven' or in space, or elsewhere.

gatiano:
True. Except for the first few verses of the first chapter, verses 1-4.

MrPresident1:


Trust me Gatiano, everything happened on this green earth.
Genesis 1:2 and Jeremiah 4:23

We digress, but in every great story there are sub plots, innit?

MrPresident1:
We can say that experiences like transatlantic slave trade, Arab slave trade, colonialism, neocolonialism, Jim Crow, unfair trading practices and exploitation, racism, happening to the same people is the tribulation of those people right?

Right?

I need an answer please.

gatiano:
Right.

MrPresident1:
Kei144, asteroids are not stars.

Take a seat and be ready to unlearn, learn, and re-learn.

Kei144:


Your problem, and the problem of many Christians, is that you don't know who exactly Jesus is. Jesus was a man on this earth 2,000 years ago. Apart from the anointing that was upon him, he was like every other man of his time. God gave him a revelation of the end time, and he described the revelation the way a man of his time would describe it. He saw multiple asteroids streaking in the earth's atmosphere (shooting stars) and he called them stars, just like the English called meteors "shooting stars".

You talk about unlearning, learning and relearning. You don't know who I am in terms of knowledge. When my ministry of raising up the end-time sons of God begins next month, may be you will hear about me.

MrPresident1:
Kei144, you have a picture, but the Bible does not tell us that an asteroid will strike the earth.

Kei144:


Re. 8:5 Then the angel took the censer, filled it with fire from the altar, and hurled it on the earth; and there came peals of thunder, rumblings, flashes of lightning and an earthquake.
Re. 8:6 Then the seven angels who had the seven trumpets prepared to sound them.
Re. 8:7 The first angel sounded his trumpet, and there came hail and fire mixed with blood, and it was hurled down upon the earth.
A third of the earth was burned up, a third of the trees were burned up, and all the green grass was burned up.
Re. 8:8 The second angel sounded his trumpet, and something like a huge mountain, all ablaze, was thrown into the sea. A third of the sea turned into blood,
Re. 8:9 a third of the living creatures in the sea died, and a third of the ships were destroyed.
Re. 8:10 The third angel sounded his trumpet, and a great star, blazing like a torch, fell from the sky on a third of the rivers and on
the springs of water —
Re. 8:11 the name of the star is Wormwood. A third of the waters turned bitter, and many people died from the waters that had become bitter.
Re. 8:12 The fourth angel sounded his trumpet, and a third of the sun was struck, a third of the moon, and a third of the stars, so that a third of them turned dark. A third of the day was without light, and also a third of the night.

Can you see in Revelation 8 that each trumpet blow brings calamity from the sky to the earth. What do you think causes these calamities? If a huge asteroid streaks through the earth's atmosphere, close enough to the ground, but without hitting the ground, it only creates huge and terrible fire that could cover a very large geographical area. That is what happens when the first angel sounds his trumpet.

When the second angel sounds his trumpet, a huge asteroid falls into the ocean. When the third angel sounds his trumpet, an asteroid completely burns up in the atmosphere, with the release of toxic ash. In order for the description of Re. 8:12 to occur, there must be a huge asteroid collision with the earth, just like the astronomy Professor described in my earlier post. In order to understand some descriptions about end time in the Bible, you must be very knowledgeable in astronomy. God is actually an astronomical being (see Re. 4:3).

Kei144:


Re. 8:5 Then the angel took the censer, filled it with fire from the altar, and hurled it on the earth; and there came peals of thunder, rumblings, flashes of lightning and an earthquake.
Re. 8:6 Then the seven angels who had the seven trumpets prepared to sound them.
Re. 8:7 The first angel sounded his trumpet, and there came hail and fire mixed with blood, and it was hurled down upon the earth.
A third of the earth was burned up, a third of the trees were burned up, and all the green grass was burned up.
Re. 8:8 The second angel sounded his trumpet, and something like a huge mountain, all ablaze, was thrown into the sea. A third of the sea turned into blood,
Re. 8:9 a third of the living creatures in the sea died, and a third of the ships were destroyed.
Re. 8:10 The third angel sounded his trumpet, and a great star, blazing like a torch, fell from the sky on a third of the rivers and on
the springs of water —
Re. 8:11 the name of the star is Wormwood. A third of the waters turned bitter, and many people died from the waters that had become bitter.
Re. 8:12 The fourth angel sounded his trumpet, and a third of the sun was struck, a third of the moon, and a third of the stars, so that a third of them turned dark. A third of the day was without light, and also a third of the night.

Can you see in Revelation 8 that each trumpet blow brings calamity from the sky to the earth. What do you think causes these calamities? If a huge asteroid streaks through the earth's atmosphere, close enough to the ground, but without hitting the ground, it only creates huge and terrible fire that could cover a very large geographical area. That is what happens when the first angel sounds his trumpet.

When the second angel sounds his trumpet, a huge asteroid falls into the ocean. When the third angel sounds his trumpet, an asteroid completely burns up in the atmosphere, with the release of toxic ash. In order for the description of Re. 8:12 to occur, there must be a huge asteroid collision with the earth, just like the astronomy Professor described in my earlier post. In order to understand some descriptions about end time in the Bible, you must be very knowledgeable in astronomy. God is actually an astronomical being (see Re. 4:3).

gatiano:
Nothing is going to happen to the earth(Planet), There will be debris coming into the earth. How will the asteroid pass the van allen belt that has locked the devils here on earth.

It is the devils wish that an asteriod should come to create a space through the van allen belt and such would not happen.
If there would be stars dropping and there would definitely be, it would be the satelites in space, the space stations.

And as the op stated, the sun, stars and the moon also mean the rulers of this world who will fall and utterly disgraced and burn, as they burn, some would be the fuel of the fire.

Op what does that eleven star bowing to one star mean?

MrPresident1:


Thank you Gatiano, only literal stars that would be falling to the earth are the satellites.

Well, according to the interpretation of the dream, Joseph's eleven brothers would bow to him, this later happened in Egypt when Joseph had become prime minister and his brothers came to him seeking food, God had promoted him, and they had no choice but to bow to him.

Do you have any esoteric connection to make of this? Share please.

Setaje:
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