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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Lezzlie(m): 12:40pm On Aug 22, 2015
MduZA:


voetsek!!!!!
Olodo shocked
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Lezzlie(m): 12:43pm On Aug 22, 2015
jln115:

What?
Yeah, that there is what's what.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 12:48pm On Aug 22, 2015
Lezzlie:
Yeah, that there is what's what.
Did you forget to take your pills today bru?
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 12:49pm On Aug 22, 2015
Henry120:


No you did not!


Yes we did!
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 1:12pm On Aug 22, 2015
patches689:


Its not "google books"

You think google wrote it?

Range is 20km

Deal with it

Who said Google wrote the book? It's random eBook you too can put yours online and write jargon.

A-Darter range is officially 19km and confirmed by South Adrican dedenceweb that you all boast is better than beegeagle.

Post A-Darter range from manufacturer, we are waiting...
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 1:17pm On Aug 22, 2015
jln115:
A few pics of SAN, doing even more exercises today!!!!!!!!
Rest of the pics on the other thread if you wish to view them.

Only one submarine, thanks for confirming SA Navy has qualified crew for only one submarine.

Two frigates, one with full crew, the other with sailing crew only and no crew for manning combat stations.

Half dead navy.....and no independent air arm, not even a naval maritime version of Augusta AW 109 like Nigerian navy
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 1:23pm On Aug 22, 2015
mzilakazi:



You are a fucke..n retard, I thought you were much clever since you said you have MBA. Did you buy it?

Map of Darfur


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Map_of_Darfur_2011.png

Wikipedia, unreliable source from you.

You are the rëtärd using Wikipedia map.

My own source is world atlas map of Sudan, Dafur is show with a downward arrow on the bottom left side and below Sahara desert. Can't paste images from my cellphone.

http://www.worldatlas.com/webimage/countrys/africa/sd.htm

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 1:29pm On Aug 22, 2015
agaugust:


Who said Google wrote the book? It's random eBook you too can put yours online and write jargon.

A-Darter range is officially 19km and confirmed by South Adrican dedenceweb that you all boast is better than beegeagle.

Post A-Darter range from manufacturer, we are waiting...
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Look who wrote the book jackass

Range is 20km

Deal with it
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 1:31pm On Aug 22, 2015
agaugust:


Only one submarine, thanks for confirming SA Navy has qualified crew for only one submarine.

Two frigates, one with full crew, the other with sailing crew only and no crew for manning combat stations.

Half dead navy.....and no independent air arm, not even a naval maritime version of Augusta AW 109 like Nigerian navy
.

Dude, seriously?

This is ridiculous - there is ZERO evidence to support anything you are saying.

If you want to make allegations - provide proof

No proof = trolling

Stop pulling down this thread
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 1:36pm On Aug 22, 2015
DieVluit:
http://www.defenceweb.co.za/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=40404:sandf-members-to-be-recognised-for-gallantry-after-sudan-incident&catid=111:sa-defence&Itemid=242

SANDF members to be recognised for gallantry after Sudan incident


A platoon of South African soldiers from 8 South African Infantry Battalion will be cited for gallantry after being accosted by heavily armed militia in Darfur, Sudan.

On 18 August a team of 37 South African National Defence Force (SANDF) members were escorting an United Nations team on a long range patrol to north of the South African Company Operating Base (COB), Mellit in the Darfur Region of Sudan as part of their deployment with the Unamid peacekeeping mission in the region. The patrol comprised four Mamba Armoured Personnel Carriers (APCs), one Recovery Vehicle and two Land Cruisers. The patrol was to a small village, called Selibilo, 51km north of the base. The team was led by Lieutenant Phiri, a Platoon Commander from 8 South African Infantry Battalion.

On the way back to the COB the team was ambushed by an armed group and a stand-off ensued, SANDF Joint Operations said in a statement. As the protection element of the patrol had passed the ambush point, this allowed the militia to stop the second group behind them. The SANDF said that the militia were aiming an anti-tank weapon and 12.7 mm machineguns at them and had further militia members deployed on a hillside nearby.

The militia fighters then ordered the Section Commander to get out of his vehicle while pointing a weapon at him. Two fighters jumped onto one of the APCs, with one pointing a weapon at the SANDF light machine gun (LMG) gunner whilst a second armed man removed the LMG gunner from the vehicle. They demanded to see the Platoon Commander and when he arrived they ordered him to surrender and give them all their weapons otherwise they would kill everyone. “However, the Platoon Commander, Lt Phiri refused,” the SANDF said.

After two hours of negotiations to return the 7.62mm machinegun, the militia told Phiri that his members were surrounded by eight vehicles from a southerly direction and six others from a northerly direction but Phiri still refused to hand over anything. The militia then took firing positions, prompting Phiri to deploy his troops on the ground in a battle formation. He informed his troops that they would move out of the area with all vehicles, walking alongside the vehicles irrespective of the obstruction by the militia members.

Before the patrol started moving out of the danger area on foot, one of the militia members punctured the rear tyre of one of the UN Land Cruisers. One of the SANDF members observed this and pushed him away from the vehicle, all the while with automatic weapons being pointed at him. Phiri instructed the recovery vehicle to come forward and tow the UN vehicle.

The SANDF Mambas were able to move forward with the troops alongside, with weapons being pointed in both directions. “They safely moved out of the danger area and proceeded back to the base after mounting the vehicles one kilometre from the danger zone. The members who stood their ground in the face of great danger will be cited for their deed of bravery,” the SANDF statement concluded.

Around 2 000 SANDF personnel are currently taking part in peacekeeping operations, as South Africa increases its role in regional conflict resolution and peacekeeping efforts. SANDF troops are deployed in Sudan and the Democratic Republic of Congo.

The SANDF has more than 800 troops deployed in Sudan with the African Union and United Nations as part of Unamid (their joint operation in Darfur).

The SANDF has recorded several incidences in Sudan – for instance, on 11 April 2010, four South African UN Police personnel were attacked in South Darfur and abducted and two vehicles stolen. They were released sixteen days later. On 26 August 2010 the South African contingent had one assault rifle stolen.

An attack on a Unamid patrol in North Darfur on 12 November 2012 killed one South African; an attack on a Unamid patrol on 17 October 2012 killed one South African in North Darfur; and an attack on a South African Unamid patrol in North Darfur on 29 October 2014 injured three. The ambush was on a section dispatched from the South African battalion base to collect water.

Earlier this year President Jacob Zuma, as commander-in-chief of the SANDF, extended the South African deployment in Darfur by another 12 months. Keeping the 850 soldiers in Sudan until March 31 next year will cost R369,079,895 for the 12 months.


Is that real combat/ battle or drama/soap opera?

One sided story as usual, wait till we hear the Sudanese version of that movie.

SANDF is giving it's troops medals for excelling in theatre arts cheesycheesy
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 1:37pm On Aug 22, 2015
agaugust:


Is that real combat/ battle or drama/soap opera?

One sided story as usual, wait till we hear the Sudanese version of that movie.

SANDF is giving it's troops medals for excelling in theatre arts cheesycheesy
.

Are you so sad that you must start arguments with everything?

Do you have noone to talk to?

Grow up.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Lezzlie(m): 1:44pm On Aug 22, 2015
jln115:

Did you forget to take your pills today bru?
learner!!! A faggott like you is in need of no medication. Your malady is beyond human comprehension .


Child of a diseased heritage.

This is lezz, Zulu stinkard
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 1:50pm On Aug 22, 2015
jln115:

1. Cobra HMD
2. Mokopa and Ingwe
3. A Darter
4. SERO 400 periscope and OMS 100 optronic mast
5. Actually the RG35,33,31, MambaMK5, CasspirMK6, marauder , matador are some of the best MRAPs in the world.
6. Find me more than 3 127mm MLRSs that can fire further than the bateleur.
7. I suggest you read up on our EW suits, you'll be amazed.
8. Badger IFV

You are not besting anyone, who is producing inferior weapons that you now best them, who? America, Italy, Ukraine, Sweden, Brazil, Israel, China, Germany, France, Britain.....who are you better than to move you up to the best?

Chinese artillery outrange yours, Swedish artillery has better performance, China has better HMD new in town, check out the American HMD on F-35, Russian and Chinese 5th generation missiles beat yours, British ATGM beats yours that's why you still imported them despite your own Ingwe available at home, Israel, China and USA have better MRAP vehicles new in the market, EW you are years behind Europe and America, Badger IFV is far behind latest Russian BMP-3 or America's new marine corp IFV, your Badger cannot even swim.....yet you dumbly rank yourself among the best in the world, how?

You are a day dreamer living in delusion and self deceit
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 1:53pm On Aug 22, 2015
agaugust:


You are not besting anyone, who is producing inferior weapons that you now best them, who? America, Italy, Ukraine, Sweden, Brazil, Israel, China, Germany, France, Britain.....who are you better than to move you up to the best?

Chinese artillery outrange yours, Swedish artillery has better performance, China has better HMD new in town, check out the American HMD on F-35, Russian and Chinese 5th generation missiles beat yours, British ATGM beats yours that's why you still imported them despite your own Ingwe available at home, Israel, China and USA have better MRAP vehicles new in the market, EW you are years behind Europe and America, Badger IFV is far behind latest Russian BMP-3 or America's new marine corp IFV, your Badger cannot even swim.....yet you dumbly rank yourself among the best in the world, how?

You are a day dreamer living in delusion and self deceit
.

No proof = troll

Conclusion: Augubug is trolling

FYI: the USMC platform (also a patria AMV) can swim because it is not as heavily ARMORED as the badger
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 1:58pm On Aug 22, 2015
agaugust:


You are not besting anyone, who is producing inferior weapons that you now best them, who? America, Italy, Ukraine, Sweden, Brazil, Israel, China, Germany, France, Britain.....who are you better than to move you up to the best?

Chinese artillery outrange yours, Swedish artillery has better performance, China has better HMD new in town, check out the American HMD on F-35, Russian and Chinese 5th generation missiles beat yours, British ATGM beats yours that's why you still imported them despite your own Ingwe available at home, Israel, China and USA have better MRAP vehicles new in the market, EW you are years behind Europe and America, Badger IFV is far behind latest Russian BMP-3 or America's new marine corp IFV, your Badger cannot even swim.....yet you dumbly rank yourself among the best in the world, how?

You are a day dreamer living in delusion and self deceit
.

That's South-African delusion at it's finest!

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 1:59pm On Aug 22, 2015
patches689:


No one cares what you call them, facts are this:

1. They are not operational
2. You have no qualified crew to operate them
3. They have no sonar bouys
4. They can only hunt surfaced submarines

These are simple facts, if you cannot deal with that then it is your problem.


Bwahahaaha cheesycheesy

I made you and jnl115 look like bufoons , you said our lynx are civilian versions, now I showed you proof they are ASW plus SAR included for full multirole maritime operations.....shame on you.

BTWN Britain does not build ASW helicopters that cannot attack a submarine under water, any helicopter waiting for submarine to surface before attacking it, has become an anti-ship helicopter, maybe South Africa will be foolish enough to build one like that and market it to the world as 'Anti-Surface Submarine Helicopter '......foool cheesycheesy

#Demölished Patches & jnl115 with one ASW torpedo from Nigeria
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 2:07pm On Aug 22, 2015
patches689:


No proof = troll

Conclusion: Augubug is trolling

FYI: the USMC platform (also a patria AMV) can swim because it is not as heavily ARMORED as the badger

What proof ? My points prove themselves, google search is free.

You need proof that your Badger cannot swim? Your navy man Andrewza proved it with photos.

SANDF imported French Milan ATGM after producing your own Ingwe ATGM, no proof needed, you yourself boast of your French made Milan.

The proofs are all over the internet and on this thread backpages.

#Defeated.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 2:48pm On Aug 22, 2015
agaugust:



Bwahahaaha cheesycheesy

I made you and jnl115 look like bufoons , you said our lynx are civilian versions, now I showed you proof they are ASW plus SAR included for full multirole maritime operations.....shame on you.

BTWN Britain does not build ASW helicopters that cannot attack a submarine under water, any helicopter waiting for submarine to surface before attacking it, has become an anti-ship helicopter, maybe South Africa will be foolish enough to build one like that and market it to the world as 'Anti-Surface Submarine Helicopter '......foool cheesycheesy

#Demölished Patches & jnl115 with one ASW torpedo from Nigeria
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1. Never said it was civilian
2. How does it hunt subs without sonar?

Facts are facts

Deal with it

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 2:50pm On Aug 22, 2015
agaugust:


What proof ? My points prove themselves, google search is free.

You need proof that your Badger cannot swim? Your navy man Andrewza proved it with photos.

SANDF imported French Milan ATGM after producing your own Ingwe ATGM, no proof needed, you yourself boast of your French made Milan.

The proofs are all over the internet and on this thread backpages.

#Defeated.


Nope

Prove the points you made

Ingwe is not a man portable system - Milan is, thats why we got it for the infantry, oldo

Now, substantiate your statements

No proof = trolling

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 3:15pm On Aug 22, 2015
agaugust:


Only one submarine, thanks for confirming SA Navy has qualified crew for only one submarine.

Two frigates, one with full crew, the other with sailing crew only and no crew for manning combat stations.

Half dead navy.....and no independent air arm, not even a naval maritime version of Augusta AW 109 like Nigerian navy
.
1 sub operational 1 in reserve 1 in maintenance
2 Frigates operational 1 in reserve 1 in maintenance

Lastly we don't need a navy air arm, we have 22 sqd and our oryx also constantly supplement our navy, thus they are naval versions to according to you.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 3:20pm On Aug 22, 2015
agaugust:


You are not besting anyone, who is producing inferior weapons that you now best them, who? America, Italy, Ukraine, Sweden, Brazil, Israel, China, Germany, France, Britain.....who are you better than to move you up to the best?

Chinese artillery outrange yours, Swedish artillery has better performance, China has better HMD new in town, check out the American HMD on F-35, Russian and Chinese 5th generation missiles beat yours, British ATGM beats yours that's why you still imported them despite your own Ingwe available at home, Israel, China and USA have better MRAP vehicles new in the market, EW you are years behind Europe and America, Badger IFV is far behind latest Russian BMP-3 or America's new marine corp IFV, your Badger cannot even swim.....yet you dumbly rank yourself among the best in the world, how?

You are a day dreamer living in delusion and self deceit
.
which Chinese artillery outranges ours? Which Swedish artillery is better than ours?, Which Chinese HMD is better than the Cobra HMD?, P.S we invented the HMD, Which Chinese WVR missile beats the A-Darter? Which british ATGM beats the Mokopa? Which MRAPs do Israel, China and US have that are better than ours?, Our EW suits are some of the most modern in the world!! How is the BMP better than the Badger?

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 3:23pm On Aug 22, 2015
Lezzlie:
learner!!! A faggott like you is in need of no medication. Your malady is beyond human comprehension .


Child of a diseased heritage.

This is lezz, Zulu stinkard
Dude What the Fvck? seriously are you OK?
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 3:27pm On Aug 22, 2015
agaugust:



Bwahahaaha cheesycheesy

I made you and jnl115 look like bufoons , you said our lynx are civilian versions, now I showed you proof they are ASW plus SAR included for full multirole maritime operations.....shame on you.

BTWN Britain does not build ASW helicopters that cannot attack a submarine under water, any helicopter waiting for submarine to surface before attacking it, has become an anti-ship helicopter, maybe South Africa will be foolish enough to build one like that and market it to the world as 'Anti-Surface Submarine Helicopter '......foool cheesycheesy

#Demölished Patches & jnl115 with one ASW torpedo from Nigeria
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How did you embarrass me mate? your Lynx are not operational and lack Sonar, they have 0 ASW capabilities, thus they are more useful for transporting civilians around than hunting Subs.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 3:59pm On Aug 22, 2015
patches689:


1. Never said it was civilian
2. How does it hunt subs without sonar?

Facts are facts

Deal with it

Your fellow fool jnl115 said it's civilian lynx, I told him that even you patches knows its ASW then you said no you don't agree, now I proved you both to bufooons with clear source that NN lynx is both ASW & SAR super combination, then you quickly dump your friend jnl115 to make him look foolish alone.

Bwahaha cheesycheesy möron, primary ASW detection tool is sonar, if the lynx has no sonar, it cannot be ASW.

Yo will be the first fooo to build ASW helicopter without sonar.

Nigerai has storage or reserve anti-submarine lynx helicopters to find and destroy your Soweto subs, we don't have such threat so we store them and use our 8 Augusta maritime helicopters to fight the current water surface crime that pirates present, simple common sense in using resources.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 4:06pm On Aug 22, 2015
patches689:


Nope

Prove the points you made

Ingwe is not a man portable system - Milan is, thats why we got it for the infantry, oldo

Now, substantiate your statements

No proof = trolling

Thanks for admiring your Ingwe is inferior to world class ATGMs and due to it's lack of portability you had to import Milan ATGM from France.

What proofs again you dummy? You just proved me right.

Anyway, Israel MANPATS ATGM also beats your Ingwe, the Israeli missile is both man portable and vehicle portable, does both anti-tank and anti-aircraft role, also naval use sea to land.

Your Soweto weapons are far from ranking with the worlds best .

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 4:14pm On Aug 22, 2015
jln115:

which Chinese artillery outranges ours? Which Swedish artillery is better than ours?, Which Chinese HMD is better than the Cobra HMD?, P.S we invented the HMD, Which Chinese WVR missile beats the A-Darter? Which british ATGM beats the Mokopa? Which MRAPs do Israel, China and US have that are better than ours?, Our EW suits are some of the most modern in the world!! How is the BMP better than the Badger?

LOL....dreamer.

Chinese PLZ-05 mobile artillery ranges shells to 100 km, beats your G-6 Rhino .

Swedish Archer artillery shellls range 60 km and are guided PGM, your Southie G-6 fires about 70 km unguided shell with zero precision and poor performance.

Russian BMP-3 IFV has 100 mm gun beating your Badgers 30mm gun, the BMP-3 is also amphibious and has composite armour, yours is far inferior cheesycheesy

See, South Africa makes weapons, we agree, but you are mot among the best in the world, that's why you sell much less than your masters in other continents.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 4:32pm On Aug 22, 2015
agaugust:


Thanks for admiring your Ingwe is inferior to world class ATGMs and due to it's lack of portability you had to import Milan ATGM from France.

What proofs again you dummy? You just proved me right.

Anyway, Israel MANPATS ATGM also beats your Ingwe, the Israeli missile is both man portable and vehicle portable, does both anti-tank and anti-aircraft role, also naval use sea to land.

Your Soweto weapons are far from ranking with the worlds best .

Thats not what i said

Is hellfire inferior becauase it is not man portable? Oldo!

Now substantiate what you said

What range and penetration does the isrealy ATGM have?

No proof = troll
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 4:44pm On Aug 22, 2015
agaugust:


LOL....dreamer.

Chinese PLZ-05 mobile artillery ranges shells to 100 km, beats your G-6 Rhino .

Swedish Archer artillery shellls range 60 km and are guided PGM, your Southie G-6 fires about 70 km unguided shell with zero precision and poor performance.

Russian BMP-3 IFV has 100 mm gun beating your Badgers 30mm gun, the BMP-3 is also amphibious and has composite armour, yours is far inferior cheesycheesy

See, South Africa makes weapons, we agree, but you are mot among the best in the world, that's why you sell much less than your masters in other continents.

1. Reportes range, not proven range

2. Guided shells can be fired from the G5 and G6 - RETA.RD

3. Is the size of the gun all that you judge an IFV on? has the BMP survived multiple RPG hits?

so not only do you have no proof, but you also have no idea what you are talking about

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 4:45pm On Aug 22, 2015
And i am out

See y'all in a week

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 5:01pm On Aug 22, 2015
patches689:
And i am out
See y'all in a week
B1tch as$, where are you heading to?

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by ssaengine: 6:08pm On Aug 22, 2015
Join in and become a South African Paratrooper for a day.
Really nice interactive video of SA elite troopers.

http://www.enca.com/features/the-jump/#_TheJump

Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Lezzlie(m): 7:47pm On Aug 22, 2015
jln115:

Dude What the Fvck? seriously are you OK?
Never felt more alive. Do not feign shock less I wipe that hypocrisy off your drooling lips.

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