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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 3:44pm On Aug 23, 2015
airmark:


One UAE team needs a keeper, tabling 50m offer for him as a goal keeper.


Shouldnt you be reccomending Terry

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by nateevs(m): 3:44pm On Aug 23, 2015
amodu:


Exactly what Hazard is lacking.

I don't believe he lacks it. You are talking about differing styles of play. Not even Schurrle, Salah, Moses, Kalou, Malouda, all previous wingers for Chelsea, had what Pedro possesses.

He is direct and will not play any other way. What we love as a quality in Pedro is almost frowned upon in Barca as he is seen to be too much in a hurry. If everyone was judged on how direct they can be, Pedro will still at Barca.

What's my point? Hazard does not lack the directness, he just doesn't play direct. Instead he play-makes and very instrumental to our ball retention capability. If we had two Pedros, we will be horrible to watch and it still doesn't make us better.

I like Hazard's unpredictability. In fact, I don't want Hazard running around like a headless chicken when it is clear there are always 3 players in his way.

Now that teams have seen Pedro, there will be more to worry about and less doubling up on Hazard, then you will see more from him.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by FBS: 3:44pm On Aug 23, 2015
Not a bad debut for Pedro.

Hazard? Don't understand why he has got to stop before moving again? In his defence he is/was always triple-marked but even when he wriggles past them he stops again, thereby allowing them to catch up. He is so much more dangerous when he is moving constantly as opponents don't know how to deal with him. Definitely an angle to work on. IMO, he could be more direct.

Ivanovic and the right side...that na where problem dey. Its like a basket. Can we move Azpi to the right please?

Willian ain't it yet. Not happy with him so far...

The good news, 3 points and fully deserved.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 3:45pm On Aug 23, 2015
airmark:
Ibime what do you say about our top strikers today? Hope you can see that falcao still lack bite and costa still lacking in finishing? Pedro inclusion made a big difference.

Striker no be my immediate concern in a match we scored 3 goals. My immediate concern is central midfield. Who better than Costa go cost £80m.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by afrodoc2: 3:45pm On Aug 23, 2015
I really like Hazard, he is showing lots of potential.






In 3 years time he might be as effective as Memphis Depay is now. smiley

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Pataki: 3:46pm On Aug 23, 2015
raumdeuter:


Boateng for a hand ball from a free kick

So Alago don turn to Sewer abi wetin be the name of that Bayelsa Mumunich keeper again sef?

Alago in my sincere perspective is the most useless defender in Germany. No wonder, una chop the fastest goal yesterday.

John Terry is a cůnt, but that Alago is the definition of uselessness.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nihilist: 3:48pm On Aug 23, 2015
afrodoc2:
I really like Hazard, he is showing lots of potential.






In 3 years time he might be as effective as Memphis Depay is now. smiley

smiley

That's also our prayer for Schneirderlin...maybe one day, He will be as good as Mikel

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Vivalavida99(f): 3:50pm On Aug 23, 2015
3 points in the bag, that's what is important.

Pedro man of the match.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by afrodoc2: 3:51pm On Aug 23, 2015
Nihilist:


smiley

That's also our prayer for Schneirderlin...maybe one day, He will be as good as Mikel

* sips chilled zobo on the rocks *

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Mourinholic(m): 3:52pm On Aug 23, 2015
Courtois-He leaves me speechless...... That guy could have saved Titanic
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by coded01: 3:55pm On Aug 23, 2015
Pedro... lipsrsealed



1st EPL Match- A goal, an assist & man of the Match... cheesy
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by amodu(m): 3:55pm On Aug 23, 2015
nateevs:


I don't believe he lacks it. You are talking about differing styles of play. Not even Schurrle, Salah, Moses, Kalou, Malouda, all previous wingers for Chelsea, had what Pedro possesses.

He is direct and will not play any other way. What we love as a quality in Pedro is almost frowned upon in Barca as he is seen to be too much in a hurry. If everyone was judged on how direct they can be, Pedro will still at Barca.

What's my point? Hazard does not lack the directness, he just doesn't play direct. Instead he play-makes and very instrumental to our ball retention capability. If we had two Pedros, we will be horrible to watch and it still doesn't make us better.

I like Hazard's unpredictability. In fact, I don't want Hazard running around like a headless chicken when it is clear there are always 3 players in his way.

Now that teams have seen Pedro, there will be more to worry about and less doubling up on Hazard, then you will see more from him.

We are on the same school of thought as regards the last paragraph.

Nevertheless, I can't deny the fact that Hazard is a delight to watch but his end products which I tag as ineffectiveness is an eyesore and very saddening.

Don't be surprise if at the end of the season Pedro will record more goals and assists than him.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by landinfo: 3:56pm On Aug 23, 2015
When Fal.Cow waz brought on, immediately the commentator said "this is a big hope for West Brom to cu.m back"...imagine

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by mithel(m): 3:59pm On Aug 23, 2015
We need a DM.


Ivanovic needs to really eff off.. I am tired of having fits whenever he is 1 on 1 against a winger.

And for those who say azpi cant attack.... He started the second goal from the RIGHT
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by dopeJemi: 3:59pm On Aug 23, 2015
Which one be don't be surprised, he already has one goal and one assist in 30mins compared to one ikebe super that has 0goals and 0 assists in 270mins


Pedro will outscore ikebe super this season, cause he is very direct and effective
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nihilist: 4:00pm On Aug 23, 2015
amodu:


We are on the same school of thought as regards the last paragraph.

Nevertheless, I can't deny the fact that Hazard is a delight to watch but his end products which I tag as ineffectiveness is an eyesore and very saddening.

Don't be surprise if at the end of the season Pedro will records more goals and assist than him.

Sorry what?

You realize that Hazard created the highest number of chances in the league last season?
Or which other end product are you talking about?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nihilist: 4:00pm On Aug 23, 2015
dopeJemi:
Which one be don't be surprised, he already has one goal and one assist in 30mins compared to one ikebe super that has 0goals and 0 1 assists in 270mins


Pedro will outscore ikebe super this season, cause he is very direct and effective
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 4:02pm On Aug 23, 2015
Ibime:


Striker no be my immediate concern in a match we scored 3 goals. My immediate concern is central midfield. Who better than Costa go cost £80m.

We scored 3 but we could see pedro written on 2 of the goals. That was my point after the preseason. What is the point of giving our strikers through passes and yet they find it difficult to convert them. I am just trying to remind you the priority I gave that time we discussed it. I support a CM inclusion, though.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Chelseafan1: 4:02pm On Aug 23, 2015
Nihilist:

Step ahead to where?

It's like you can't see that Hazard has been double marked all game.

nateevs:


Tell me about it man. This is why I don't get into those arguments.

It's like that fact gets conveniently left out every time.

Raumdeuter and some Manyoo fans will NEVER see any good in Hazard, even tho he coulda scored one sweet goal, he still did his job well, one of which Pedro enjoyed from.

He will never talk of Willian, Fabregas. Costa....na Hazard be him headache like say Robben makes the best decision all the time too.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Chelseafan1: 4:04pm On Aug 23, 2015
nateevs:
3 pts finally. Jose has a lot to sort out still.
Fabregas has to be benched for like 2 games.... let him just rest and watch
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Mourinholic(m): 4:07pm On Aug 23, 2015
Can some Chelsea fans pls let us savor this victory in peace?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by bandely(m): 4:07pm On Aug 23, 2015
Hazard's play has been terrible! He needs to improve. Many a times, when he is with the ball, the urgency to score isn't there. Same for Willian who would run, only to wait for the defenders to cover and will be shaking his leg like a hen looking for something in the ground. Do I even need to say that his shooting is terrible?!
Fabregas, since the season started hasn't gotten anything right! Too many misplaced places and he isn't offering any cover for the defense. Matic had a drab game, hopefully he'll get his act together. For Iva, I guess the issue has been over flogged here, no need dwelling on that.
Thanks to Pedro, his assault on the defense line helped us a lot. A "Pedroless" game would have resulted into a big loss for us, something that could have been more than 3-0!
All in all, the psychology of the players have been affected, but I hope this victory marks the turning point for us!

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Chelseafan1: 4:08pm On Aug 23, 2015
amodu:


Exactly what Hazard is lacking.

If you have forgotten, Hazard's invidual effort and brilliance gave us some cool 3 points last season on several occasions to win us the league....if not for him towards the end of last season, either of Man city or Arsenal could have caught up and overtake us on the log.


He deservedly won the PFA player of the year.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Chelseafan1: 4:10pm On Aug 23, 2015
raumdeuter:
The guy dribbled slid away what stops him from moving forward. other 2 defenders move towards him and space would be for his Chelsea teammates to take advantage

But Ikedia has to wait, savour the monet, check if spectators can see how he wasted the guy with dribble like they do in SHell cup matches
It was already 85 mins, we were no longer looking for goals, he had to slow down play so we had to retain possession, how come u didn't realise this?





Chelsea FC
@ ChelseaFC
17m
Hazard has had plenty of the ball in additional time so
far, helping run down the clock. #CFCLive
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Chelseafan1: 4:12pm On Aug 23, 2015
weedtaker:
Chelshit attacking play was excellent, pedro's flank proved to be a real threat, i think with ceasar playing at rightback, chelsea right hand side will be a nightmare for epl teams, the defence wasn't that bad, the midfielders ain't doing much to protect the back4, westbrom midfielders really penetrated the middle.
Meanwhile ivanovic bad form against the flair attackers continues. montero sterling mcmanaman the list goes on and on. But with 10men at the early minutes of the 2nd half, chelshit really tried.

GGMU....nice analysis.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by pamcode(m): 4:17pm On Aug 23, 2015
I hardly see fabregas xcept where he wants to play freekick. Man the guy needs to mark effectively at least.

Ivan- abeg make mourinho rest that guy for a while abeg, the kind crosses and destructive passes wey dey follow the guy area enter box no be for this world

Last thing is cant we have someone who can shoot the goddamn ball when there is space ni, only willian and ivan tries and it either blown to the heavenlies or blocked, we can just be tapping around the box we have to try shooting from outside the box or we would be too predictable and shut-down.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by amodu(m): 4:24pm On Aug 23, 2015
FBS:
Not a bad debut for Pedro.

Hazard? Don't understand why he has got to stop before moving again? In his defence he is/was always triple-marked but even when he wriggles past them he stops again, thereby allowing them to catch up. He is so much more dangerous when he is moving constantly as opponents don't know how to deal with him. Definitely an angle to work on. IMO, he could be more direct.

Ivanovic and the right side...that na where problem dey. Its like a basket. Can we move Azpi to the right please?

Willian ain't it yet. Not happy with him so far...

The good news, 3 points and fully deserved.

On point bro.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by nateevs(m): 4:26pm On Aug 23, 2015
Nihilist:


Sorry what?

You realize that Hazard created the highest number of chances in the league last season?
Or which other end product are you talking about?


I was just about to get some screen shots for Amodu. The problem I see here is people cannot manage their expectation of Hazard. I suppose secretly, people want him to bang in goals like Ronaldo and they get frustrated when he doesn't.

Me I no get wahala with Hazard. For me, we have more problems with Fabregas. More problems with Willian who does not create, score or hit the target. We have more problems with Ivanovic and I personally have more of a problem with Costa running 50 yards with the ball to the flanks always.

We have more problems with a paper thin central midfield and we have a massive problem with JM persisting with Falcao as number 2 striker while making Remy sit on the bench and watch the drivel.

We have more problems. What Hazard does not do is the least of them.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by amodu(m): 4:32pm On Aug 23, 2015
Nihilist:


Sorry what?

You realize that Hazard created the highest number of chances in the league last season?
Or which other end product are you talking about?


What is stopping him from utilizing some of those chances?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by amodu(m): 4:37pm On Aug 23, 2015
nateevs:


I was just about to get some screen shots for Amodu. The problem I see here is people cannot manage their expectation of Hazard. I suppose secretly, people want him to bang in goals like Ronaldo and they get frustrated when he doesn't.

Me I no get wahala with Hazard. For me, we have more problems with Fabregas. More problems with Willian who does not create, score or hit the target. We have more problems with Ivanovic and I personally have more of a problem with Costa running 50 yards with the ball to the flanks always.

We have more problems with Central Midfield and we have a massive problem with JM persisting with Falcao as number 2 striker while making Remy sit on the bench and watch the drivel.

We have more problems. What Hazard does not do is the least of them.

Yes.

I'm very expectant regarding his performance. And I don't think it can be control as I believe he his our best player.

Expecting him to score and assist week in, week out.

Is it too much to be expected with the potentials at his disposal?

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by nateevs(m): 4:54pm On Aug 23, 2015
amodu:


Yes.

I'm very expectant regarding his performance. And I don't think it can be control as I believe he his our best player.

Expecting him to score and assist week in, week out.

Is it too much to be expected with the potentials at his disposal?

No I am not saying not to expect. I am asking to manage the expectations. In other words taking into consideration, all the factors. Hazard is the most marked player in the League. He is the most fouled player in the league. Yet for the last season, managed to create the most number of chances.

Taking other factors into consideration means understanding that until Pedro, Hazard was our only attacking threat. Everything went through him. Almost every attack through him.

Understanding our team set-up is a pertinent part of this task. Other teams that have players with Hazard's potential don't just have one player who does everything. Neither do they have a paper-thin midfield that cannot retain possession for more than one minute or recycle possession so effectively. Our midfield should retain possession so that Hazard doesn't have to participate in it. He can then be released with precision passes from midfield.

Their Hazard does not have to run back 80 yards to defend with Azpilicueta; only to sprint back another 70 yards towards goal to perform magic.

Their Hazard does not attack alone - without a legit, dangerous overlapping left back. Our Hazard has a right back behind him who never joins the attack. So Hazard is confirmed to always have at least 2 players to beat. Players like Ribery have Alaba overlapping seriously, creating options and reducing pressure and work load on Ribery.

For me, analysing Hazard without taking into consideration, all these important points is not managing expectation. It's just heaping undue pressure on the poor lad.

Name me one player in the world who is saddled with all of these responsibilities.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by FBS: 5:08pm On Aug 23, 2015
@nateevs, yes he(Hazard) is the MOST marked in the league yet he waits for them even after moving away brilliantly? Why? Its horrible!
He could and should be way more "deadly"... Its a key element "missing" from his game.

Also, I guess JM's fascination with Falcao is based on just trying to get him integrated ...you know, like "omo, just go out there and just be yourself cos we gonna need you".. However, I honestly rather see Remy play more so I agree with you on that one.

Yes, we have work to do. Fabs, Matic, Terry all need to siddon for bench for a game or two. Iva till end of season. cheesy

As per Willian, na form dey worry am but you know he's got the lungs and its a long bloody season.

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