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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 3:44pm On Aug 23, 2015 |
airmark: Shouldnt you be reccomending Terry ![]() 5 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by nateevs(m): 3:44pm On Aug 23, 2015 |
amodu: I don't believe he lacks it. You are talking about differing styles of play. Not even Schurrle, Salah, Moses, Kalou, Malouda, all previous wingers for Chelsea, had what Pedro possesses. He is direct and will not play any other way. What we love as a quality in Pedro is almost frowned upon in Barca as he is seen to be too much in a hurry. If everyone was judged on how direct they can be, Pedro will still at Barca. What's my point? Hazard does not lack the directness, he just doesn't play direct. Instead he play-makes and very instrumental to our ball retention capability. If we had two Pedros, we will be horrible to watch and it still doesn't make us better. I like Hazard's unpredictability. In fact, I don't want Hazard running around like a headless chicken when it is clear there are always 3 players in his way. Now that teams have seen Pedro, there will be more to worry about and less doubling up on Hazard, then you will see more from him. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by FBS: 3:44pm On Aug 23, 2015 |
Not a bad debut for Pedro. Hazard? Don't understand why he has got to stop before moving again? In his defence he is/was always triple-marked but even when he wriggles past them he stops again, thereby allowing them to catch up. He is so much more dangerous when he is moving constantly as opponents don't know how to deal with him. Definitely an angle to work on. IMO, he could be more direct. Ivanovic and the right side...that na where problem dey. Its like a basket. Can we move Azpi to the right please? Willian ain't it yet. Not happy with him so far... The good news, 3 points and fully deserved. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 3:45pm On Aug 23, 2015 |
airmark: Striker no be my immediate concern in a match we scored 3 goals. My immediate concern is central midfield. Who better than Costa go cost £80m. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by afrodoc2: 3:45pm On Aug 23, 2015 |
I really like Hazard, he is showing lots of potential. In 3 years time he might be as effective as Memphis Depay is now. ![]() 8 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Pataki: 3:46pm On Aug 23, 2015 |
raumdeuter: So Alago don turn to Sewer abi wetin be the name of that Bayelsa Mumunich keeper again sef? Alago in my sincere perspective is the most useless defender in Germany. No wonder, una chop the fastest goal yesterday. John Terry is a cůnt, but that Alago is the definition of uselessness. 3 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nihilist: 3:48pm On Aug 23, 2015 |
afrodoc2: ![]() That's also our prayer for Schneirderlin...maybe one day, He will be as good as Mikel 22 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Vivalavida99(f): 3:50pm On Aug 23, 2015 |
3 points in the bag, that's what is important. Pedro man of the match. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by afrodoc2: 3:51pm On Aug 23, 2015 |
Nihilist: * sips chilled zobo on the rocks * 5 Likes 3 Shares |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Mourinholic(m): 3:52pm On Aug 23, 2015 |
Courtois-He leaves me speechless...... That guy could have saved Titanic |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by coded01: 3:55pm On Aug 23, 2015 |
Pedro... ![]() 1st EPL Match- A goal, an assist & man of the Match... ![]() |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by amodu(m): 3:55pm On Aug 23, 2015 |
nateevs: We are on the same school of thought as regards the last paragraph. Nevertheless, I can't deny the fact that Hazard is a delight to watch but his end products which I tag as ineffectiveness is an eyesore and very saddening. Don't be surprise if at the end of the season Pedro will record more goals and assists than him. 3 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by landinfo: 3:56pm On Aug 23, 2015 |
When Fal.Cow waz brought on, immediately the commentator said "this is a big hope for West Brom to cu.m back"...imagine ![]() 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by mithel(m): 3:59pm On Aug 23, 2015 |
We need a DM. Ivanovic needs to really eff off.. I am tired of having fits whenever he is 1 on 1 against a winger. And for those who say azpi cant attack.... He started the second goal from the RIGHT |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by dopeJemi: 3:59pm On Aug 23, 2015 |
Which one be don't be surprised, he already has one goal and one assist in 30mins compared to one ikebe super that has 0goals and 0 assists in 270mins Pedro will outscore ikebe super this season, cause he is very direct and effective |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nihilist: 4:00pm On Aug 23, 2015 |
amodu: Sorry what? You realize that Hazard created the highest number of chances in the league last season? Or which other end product are you talking about? |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nihilist: 4:00pm On Aug 23, 2015 |
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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 4:02pm On Aug 23, 2015 |
Ibime: We scored 3 but we could see pedro written on 2 of the goals. That was my point after the preseason. What is the point of giving our strikers through passes and yet they find it difficult to convert them. I am just trying to remind you the priority I gave that time we discussed it. I support a CM inclusion, though. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Chelseafan1: 4:02pm On Aug 23, 2015 |
Nihilist: nateevs: Raumdeuter and some Manyoo fans will NEVER see any good in Hazard, even tho he coulda scored one sweet goal, he still did his job well, one of which Pedro enjoyed from. He will never talk of Willian, Fabregas. Costa....na Hazard be him headache like say Robben makes the best decision all the time too. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Chelseafan1: 4:04pm On Aug 23, 2015 |
nateevs:Fabregas has to be benched for like 2 games.... let him just rest and watch |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Mourinholic(m): 4:07pm On Aug 23, 2015 |
Can some Chelsea fans pls let us savor this victory in peace? |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by bandely(m): 4:07pm On Aug 23, 2015 |
Hazard's play has been terrible! He needs to improve. Many a times, when he is with the ball, the urgency to score isn't there. Same for Willian who would run, only to wait for the defenders to cover and will be shaking his leg like a hen looking for something in the ground. Do I even need to say that his shooting is terrible?! Fabregas, since the season started hasn't gotten anything right! Too many misplaced places and he isn't offering any cover for the defense. Matic had a drab game, hopefully he'll get his act together. For Iva, I guess the issue has been over flogged here, no need dwelling on that. Thanks to Pedro, his assault on the defense line helped us a lot. A "Pedroless" game would have resulted into a big loss for us, something that could have been more than 3-0! All in all, the psychology of the players have been affected, but I hope this victory marks the turning point for us! 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Chelseafan1: 4:08pm On Aug 23, 2015 |
amodu: If you have forgotten, Hazard's invidual effort and brilliance gave us some cool 3 points last season on several occasions to win us the league....if not for him towards the end of last season, either of Man city or Arsenal could have caught up and overtake us on the log. He deservedly won the PFA player of the year. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Chelseafan1: 4:10pm On Aug 23, 2015 |
raumdeuter:It was already 85 mins, we were no longer looking for goals, he had to slow down play so we had to retain possession, how come u didn't realise this? Chelsea FC @ ChelseaFC 17m Hazard has had plenty of the ball in additional time so far, helping run down the clock. #CFCLive |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Chelseafan1: 4:12pm On Aug 23, 2015 |
weedtaker: GGMU....nice analysis. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by pamcode(m): 4:17pm On Aug 23, 2015 |
I hardly see fabregas xcept where he wants to play freekick. Man the guy needs to mark effectively at least. Ivan- abeg make mourinho rest that guy for a while abeg, the kind crosses and destructive passes wey dey follow the guy area enter box no be for this world Last thing is cant we have someone who can shoot the goddamn ball when there is space ni, only willian and ivan tries and it either blown to the heavenlies or blocked, we can just be tapping around the box we have to try shooting from outside the box or we would be too predictable and shut-down. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by amodu(m): 4:24pm On Aug 23, 2015 |
FBS: On point bro. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by nateevs(m): 4:26pm On Aug 23, 2015 |
Nihilist: I was just about to get some screen shots for Amodu. The problem I see here is people cannot manage their expectation of Hazard. I suppose secretly, people want him to bang in goals like Ronaldo and they get frustrated when he doesn't. Me I no get wahala with Hazard. For me, we have more problems with Fabregas. More problems with Willian who does not create, score or hit the target. We have more problems with Ivanovic and I personally have more of a problem with Costa running 50 yards with the ball to the flanks always. We have more problems with a paper thin central midfield and we have a massive problem with JM persisting with Falcao as number 2 striker while making Remy sit on the bench and watch the drivel. We have more problems. What Hazard does not do is the least of them. 6 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by amodu(m): 4:32pm On Aug 23, 2015 |
Nihilist: What is stopping him from utilizing some of those chances? |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by amodu(m): 4:37pm On Aug 23, 2015 |
nateevs: Yes. I'm very expectant regarding his performance. And I don't think it can be control as I believe he his our best player. Expecting him to score and assist week in, week out. Is it too much to be expected with the potentials at his disposal? 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by nateevs(m): 4:54pm On Aug 23, 2015 |
amodu: No I am not saying not to expect. I am asking to manage the expectations. In other words taking into consideration, all the factors. Hazard is the most marked player in the League. He is the most fouled player in the league. Yet for the last season, managed to create the most number of chances. Taking other factors into consideration means understanding that until Pedro, Hazard was our only attacking threat. Everything went through him. Almost every attack through him. Understanding our team set-up is a pertinent part of this task. Other teams that have players with Hazard's potential don't just have one player who does everything. Neither do they have a paper-thin midfield that cannot retain possession for more than one minute or recycle possession so effectively. Our midfield should retain possession so that Hazard doesn't have to participate in it. He can then be released with precision passes from midfield. Their Hazard does not have to run back 80 yards to defend with Azpilicueta; only to sprint back another 70 yards towards goal to perform magic. Their Hazard does not attack alone - without a legit, dangerous overlapping left back. Our Hazard has a right back behind him who never joins the attack. So Hazard is confirmed to always have at least 2 players to beat. Players like Ribery have Alaba overlapping seriously, creating options and reducing pressure and work load on Ribery. For me, analysing Hazard without taking into consideration, all these important points is not managing expectation. It's just heaping undue pressure on the poor lad. Name me one player in the world who is saddled with all of these responsibilities. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by FBS: 5:08pm On Aug 23, 2015 |
@nateevs, yes he(Hazard) is the MOST marked in the league yet he waits for them even after moving away brilliantly? Why? Its horrible! He could and should be way more "deadly"... Its a key element "missing" from his game. Also, I guess JM's fascination with Falcao is based on just trying to get him integrated ...you know, like "omo, just go out there and just be yourself cos we gonna need you".. However, I honestly rather see Remy play more so I agree with you on that one. Yes, we have work to do. Fabs, Matic, Terry all need to siddon for bench for a game or two. Iva till end of season. ![]() As per Willian, na form dey worry am but you know he's got the lungs and its a long bloody season. |
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