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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 12:27pm On Aug 26, 2015 |
spyder880: I actually have work clothes, boots and kidney belt packed in my luggage for my trip in a few weeks to do my fence. I intend to do just that, move blocks and get into it. But I won't work with wet concrete or dry cement, too toxic for me. |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 12:33pm On Aug 26, 2015 |
KolaShangOne: On another tangent, why would I even consider an outfit that doesn't have the basic, in my opinion, equipment like concrete mixer? What separates a true professional builder from Baba Biliki the Brikila with his hand mixing? We in diaspora take these things as being normal for the job. Having a concrete mixer, laser level, etc are items that the most rudimentary tool/equipment a seasoned bricklayer that wants to be taken seriously should have in his arsenal. I expect a tiler to have the required tools to guarantee a bang up job. What I don't expect him to do is try to compare what I pay in Los Angeles with what I will pay in Ibadan. If he wants to earn us fees then United and Delta has daily flights to the U.S. 1 Like |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by ikp120(m): 12:37pm On Aug 26, 2015 |
erico2k2: Is this not pvc floor? |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by KolaShangOne(m): 12:37pm On Aug 26, 2015 |
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 12:40pm On Aug 26, 2015 |
spyder880: So I intend to start by changing my little slice of heaven in Ibadan. I'll make sure that every artisan that I work with leaves with new knowledge and tools. As an example I am shipping for a laser leveler that I will use on my property. I wouldn't mind giving it away after I'm down with it in the hopes that it will help someone elevate his skill set. http://www.ebay.com/itm/8-line-Rotary-Laser-Beam-Self-Leveling-Interior-Exterior-Kit-W-Tripod-warranty-A-/281681933696?hash=item41958d3580 1 Like 1 Share
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 12:45pm On Aug 26, 2015 |
KolaShangOne: You've just highlighted another hang up that I have with Nigeria. Why do we need a hanger crane when a simple pulley system or conveyor belt will do the same with very little cost. 1 Like
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by erico2k2(m): 12:57pm On Aug 26, 2015 |
spyder880:haa BABA, we go mix concrete with mixer, that screeder wont be a bad idea, the retail £300 I might just get one if I find a good source to ship it.I think the way it is now anyone with hands can mix concrete thanks to the humble mixer and the standard ration we have all learnt so far 1 Like |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by KolaShangOne(m): 12:58pm On Aug 26, 2015 |
EgunMogaji: I bet you can't carry up to 20 per full day from one point to another.. ![]() |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 1:04pm On Aug 26, 2015 |
KolaShangOne: So let's make the bet interesting. If I win you get to provide free labour for my fence - 1,500 blocks (I'll still supply the materials), if you win then I give you $1,000 cash. Eyin eniyan mi, EgunMogaji has thrown down the gauntlet ![]() You have to use your fancy concrete mixer AND THE ENGINEER (the specific one not just anyone) must be onsite every day to measure the fence ![]() 2 Likes |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by smiley001(m): 1:08pm On Aug 26, 2015 |
abdulwastecx: U r just full of calculations sir, I like dat. 2 Likes |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by KolaShangOne(m): 1:10pm On Aug 26, 2015 |
EgunMogaji: Oga Egunmogaji, This pulley system. Does it transfer things from a low to high level or from a high to low level? What's the maximum load it can carry? How many blocks will I carry till the belt wears off? And of course I know it must have a Programmable Logic Controller like Allen Bradley or Siemens which is expensive to operate and experts are needed for writing its "languages". Hanger cranes can be used to carry concrete weighting several tonnes. Secondly, can CLIENTS cope with the increase that using this equipments will cause to their budget? |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 1:11pm On Aug 26, 2015 |
erico2k2: My green strategy is to use hip vents, whole house fan and evaporative cooler. The heat will be dealt with, it's the church and mosque loudspeakers that I have no solution for. Maybe nice canceling headsets ![]() |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by KolaShangOne(m): 1:15pm On Aug 26, 2015 |
erico2k2: Yes you can mix it.. But can you carry 1 headpan from the pour point to the work point? ![]() |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 1:15pm On Aug 26, 2015 |
KolaShangOne: All I can tell you is that it works very well here and there's no reason that it can't work equally well in Nigeria. There's nothing like a single chip of computer in any of the ones that I've seen used and some are truck mounted. They normally use it over here to deliver shingles to rooftops. No experts needed - again Nigerian over thinking of simple stuff. Hanger cranes is an over kill for a 3 story structure. It doesn't have to be a straight shot to the 3rd floor from ground zero, you can offload on each floor as you build upwards. Clients, at least like me, will gladly rewards any company that reduces manual labour in it's operations. I literarily cry whenever I see the old women fetching water at construction sites. It will work if you want it to work and it won't if you don't want it to ![]() 2 Likes
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by erico2k2(m): 1:43pm On Aug 26, 2015 |
KolaShangOne:this where my thinking cap comes in,you know I can build a pulley system with 50K to solve that problem?? its challenges like these that lead the west into industrial revolution, back then it looked like play.make I bring diagrams and reality sketch? ![]() ![]() ![]()
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by erico2k2(m): 1:45pm On Aug 26, 2015 |
Ok here is a thought, who has ever thought of building a concrete mixer and a concrete sprayer? |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by kopell: 1:52pm On Aug 26, 2015 |
@Egunmogaji, sometimes is better not to try and prove a point that things can be done in what we called engineering control, faster and cheaper. Many people don't understand that in west, they don't pay for what you can do, but pay one more for how safe you can do the job. Because liability cost more then the wages. Nigeria as enough young people to work. I rest my case !!!!! |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by erico2k2(m): 1:55pm On Aug 26, 2015 |
I saw this direct lift crane, less than N50K in today's money to buy. 1 Like
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by erico2k2(m): 2:02pm On Aug 26, 2015 |
KolaShangOne:Plz see the two cranes I posted both less than 50k to buy minus shipment in the Uk,the first one has 1000KG capacity, the 2nd one has 1500KG capacity,one bag of cement is 50KG,so can lift 10 bags in one go.Does this answer any of you suspicions? |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by abdulwastecx(m): 2:41pm On Aug 26, 2015 |
EgunMogaji: wow...i like this, how much will this cost? |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by abdulwastecx(m): 2:46pm On Aug 26, 2015 |
erico2k2: Do you have any idea on how one can buy a simple batching plant with capacity to batch about 1cubic meters of concrete per mix? |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by NL1960: 2:55pm On Aug 26, 2015 |
erico2k2: When you wake up by 4am in Lagos to go to the office and return home by 11pm everyday and doing that for 5 days, on a Saturday morning, the last thing on your mind is to go and do DIY of tilling a floor. Just try that and within a short time, when the person drops dead, his people will start blaming the old witch in the village. ![]() ![]() ![]() Abroad, you have no option than to do DIY because paying a technician over there is expensive. Calculate the hourly wage in a place like UK or US and multiply that by 8 hours of work and then convert to Naira and then compare that to what you have to pay here, you will see why you do not have to bother yourself on DIY for little things. To wash my car at a car wash place, i will likely pay N500. Is it because of N500 that i should disturb my peaceful sleep and rest from stress to go and do DIY of washing the car?. 8 Likes |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by erico2k2(m): 3:05pm On Aug 26, 2015 |
abdulwastecx:No Idea but will have a look |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by erico2k2(m): 3:09pm On Aug 26, 2015 |
NL1960:haha Haba I enjoy washing my car though ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 3:26pm On Aug 26, 2015 |
NL1960: Nigeria is not unique, people get up early here too. We have traffic too. I don't take my cars to car wash, I wash them myself because I enjoy working on my cars but I do feel guilty because I use more water than the car wash and I don't recycle like they are required to. I do woodwork, build sheds, rebuild engines, restore cars not because mechanics or builder are expensive, not all of them are, I do them because I actually enjoy it. I've seen bicyclists on Nigerian roads, I've seen rc helicopter pilots in Nigeria, etc somehow these folks manage to do these non essential stuff despite the rigors of Nigeria. 1 Like |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 3:28pm On Aug 26, 2015 |
abdulwastecx: Just over $200 but for someone of your caliber you are better off shopping for used more professional ones in steel casing. |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by erico2k2(m): 3:44pm On Aug 26, 2015 |
EgunMogaji:eheh true 2many big man.No one wants to get hier hands dirty. 1 Like |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by erico2k2(m): 4:27pm On Aug 26, 2015 |
ikp120:what I meant is, have you thought of waht might happen if candle light drop on this PVC floor? |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by abdulwastecx(m): 4:33pm On Aug 26, 2015 |
EgunMogaji: That is a bit over N40,000, wow that is cheap. I really like the use of all these machine in building construction, it makes work easier, faster and more accurate. |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by abdulwastecx(m): 4:34pm On Aug 26, 2015 |
erico2k2: I like the lift crane, simple and easy to use.... we love to have one soon |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by abdulwastecx(m): 4:42pm On Aug 26, 2015 |
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 4:44pm On Aug 26, 2015 |
abdulwastecx: So this is part of the reason why a lot of us in diaspora gets into DIY. It's not because we're cheap or workers are expensive. It's partly because we have cheap access to quality tools and materials. A perfect example is the blueprint for my build. I got tired of explaining my idea to architects, so I simply downloaded SketchUp and drew it out once and for all. I have table saw, a commercial grade Ryobi, beveling miter saw, jigsaws, etc engine hoist, car ramps, engine stands, etc all professional grade stuff 3 Likes |
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