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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 5:52pm On Aug 28, 2015
ssaengine:


The entire Nigerian 72 Strike Force is a creation of Eben Barlow. He said so with his own words. Opening the unit, recruiting men from existing units, and training on search and destroy tactics. A private man, with a private company creating a unit within the Nigerian Army. Nigeria did not have the capability, know-how or motivation to create such a unit. It had nothing to do with teaching your men how to drive our Reva MRAP's. What is so difficult in starting, and driving a vehicle that carries no specialist weapons? It was all about the creation of 72 Strike Force.

PMC as private military men train American and European armies at home, that is nothing new.

Blackwater PMC in America trains US Navy seals special forces, one of the best SF in the world, they killed Osama Bin Laden !

NA mobile strike force of 120 men, a 'whole' unit of just 120 men trained by Eben and his 5 man trainers crew, while Russia trained most of the 5,000 NA COIN brigade....a whole 5,000 compared to Barlow trained tiny 120 .....yet the Russians are not going all over internet claiming glory like you desperate South Africans whose Bush war and COIN tactics is failing you in your own fatherland at home when used by the SANDF, it proves that SANDF needs Eben Barlow's training more than Nigeria grin grin
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 5:56pm On Aug 28, 2015
FighterPilot:



In only one sentence. Soldiers are not meant to look after animals .

SANDF cannot protect South Africa's borders from armed invasion, that is why Poachers cross in from Zimbabwe with rifles and ammunition to dominate a huge chunk of your fatherland in Kruger park including army owned land for many years unstoppable by your clueless army shocked shocked
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by FighterPilot(m): 5:58pm On Aug 28, 2015
agaugust:


PMC as private military men train American and European armies at home, that is nothing new.

Blackwater PMC in America trains US Navy seals special forces, one of the best SF in the world, they killed Osama Bin Laden !

NA mobile strike force of 120 men, a 'whole' unit of just 120 men trained by Eben and his 5 man trainers crew, while Russia trained most of the 5,000 NA COIN brigade....a whole 5,000 compared to Barlow trained tiny 120 .....yet the Russians are not going all over internet claiming glory like you desperate South Africans whose Bush war and COIN tactics is failing you in your own fatherland at home when used by the SANDF, it proves that SANDF needs Eben Barlow's training more than Nigeria grin grin
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PMCs are banned in many countries including in Europe and so I fail to conceive your assertions that they still train militaries across the world.

Your research is very poor.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by iblawi(m): 6:02pm On Aug 28, 2015
FighterPilot:



Eeben complained that the western have detrained Nigerian forces by teaching them the wrong stuffs.

Barlow, trained over 4000 Nigerian forces. No ways can only 100 be trained to face over 4000 bandits.

Thank God you now know is not possible for Barlow to train 100 troops to face boko haram and is also not possible to train 4000 troops in less than a month.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by FighterPilot(m): 6:03pm On Aug 28, 2015
agaugust:


SANDF cannot protect South Africa's borders from armed invasion, that is why Poachers cross in from Zimbabwe with rifles and ammunition to dominate a huge chunk of your fatherland in Kruger park including army owned land for many years unstoppable by your clueless army shocked shocked
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That is untrue. Poachers are insiders and that has been proven many a times on their arrest. There are many game reserves which are attacked and which are far from the borders.

Poaching is not a war but just a crime.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 6:05pm On Aug 28, 2015
FighterPilot:


Thanks, Can you tell me what do you meet before you enter the main entrance of Mojave desert battle center? That is so protruding that it can never go unnoticed.
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Image tank/helo
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by FighterPilot(m): 6:07pm On Aug 28, 2015
Many Rhinos are privately owned in South Africa and it is private game reserves which are mostly attacked. So, are you suggesting to us that SANDF should be used to guard private property? Nope that will seriously reduce the quality of SANDF.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by FighterPilot(m): 6:10pm On Aug 28, 2015
agaugust:


Image tank/helo

Thanks very much, I was waiting for you to attend to that question. Tell me now what did you see at Majave desert main entrance?
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 6:13pm On Aug 28, 2015
FighterPilot:



Eeben complained that the western have detrained Nigerian forces by teaching them the wrong stuffs.

Barlow, trained over 4000 Nigerian forces. No ways can only 100 be trained to face over 4000 bandits.

Russia is not western power, it is eastern bloc you fake BSc military science fraudster grin

Citation for the over 4,000 NA troops trained by Barlow.....fraudster.....4,000 men drive in our 30 REVA MRAPS.....fool grin
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 6:15pm On Aug 28, 2015
FighterPilot:



PMCs are banned in many countries including in Europe and so I fail to conceive your assertions that they still train militaries across the world.

Your research is very poor.

You just proved that your BSc Military Science degree is fake http://www.rt.com/shows/sophieco/mercenaries-better-us-army-560/
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by iblawi(m): 6:21pm On Aug 28, 2015
FighterPilot:
Many Rhinos are privately owned in South Africa and it is private game reserves which are mostly attacked. So, are you suggesting to us that SANDF should be used to guard private property? Nope that will seriously reduce the quality of SANDF.
Pls who are those guys coming out from the MRAP?

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 6:22pm On Aug 28, 2015
FighterPilot:



That is untrue. Poachers are insiders .

That means SANDF is so dumb you don't even know where your enemy comes from, Rhino poachers are from across border Zimbabwe and Mozambique, South Africa is being invaded by armed men and you cannot stop them for ever.....failed bush war at home grin grin

"South Africa is currently experiencing a catastrophic rhino poaching crisis, with 668 rhinos lost during 2012. It is now evident that Mozambique has played a key role in this illegal killing.

The vast majority of rhinos killed in South Africa are poached in Kruger Poached rhino Limpopo South Africa (C) Sarah NelsonNational Park, which shares a long, porous border (356km) with Mozambique, where most of the poachers come from. Poachers from Mozambique are easily able to illegally slip across the border into Kruger National Park, and even if South African National Parks rangers are able to detect them, they are unable to carry out the ‘hot pursuit’ once the poachers have crossed the border back in Mozambique. During March 2013 alone, Kruger Park recoded 72 known cross-border armed incursions from Mozambique. Of the 94 rhino related arrests in South Africa this year, 44 of these have been in Kruger (9 May 2013)."

https://www.savetherhino.org/rhino_info/thorny_issues/mozambiques_role_in_the_poaching_crisis

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 6:23pm On Aug 28, 2015
iblawi:
Pls who are those guys coming out from the MRAP

3 SANDF soldiers and 1 Forest Ranger running after Rhino poachers grin grin grin
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by FighterPilot(m): 6:23pm On Aug 28, 2015
agaugust:


You just proved that your BSc Military Science degree is fake http://www.rt.com/shows/sophieco/mercenaries-better-us-army-560/
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My degree is genuine.

Did I ever said anything about America?
Where does it say they are training American troops in USA soil?
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 6:24pm On Aug 28, 2015
agaugust:


SANDF cannot protect South Africa's borders from armed invasion, that is why Poachers cross in from Zimbabwe with rifles and ammunition to dominate a huge chunk of your fatherland in Kruger park including army owned land for many years unstoppable by your clueless army shocked shocked
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Citation needed

Poaching is an internal problem

Do you want to see stats from op Corona again?

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by FighterPilot(m): 6:25pm On Aug 28, 2015
agaugust:


grin grin grin
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Of cause support operations the same way army is giving support operations to police and traffic police.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 6:28pm On Aug 28, 2015
agaugust:


That means SANDF is so dumb you don't even know where your enemy comes from, Rhino poachers are from across border Zimbabwe and Mozambique, South Africa is being invaded by armed men and you cannot stop them for ever.....failed bush war at home grin grin

"South Africa is currently experiencing a catastrophic rhino poaching crisis, with 668 rhinos lost during 2012. It is now evident that Mozambique has played a key role in this illegal killing.

The vast majority of rhinos killed in South Africa are poached in Kruger Poached rhino Limpopo South Africa (C) Sarah NelsonNational Park, which shares a long, porous border (356km) with Mozambique, where most of the poachers come from. Poachers from Mozambique are easily able to illegally slip across the border into Kruger National Park, and even if South African National Parks rangers are able to detect them, they are unable to carry out the ‘hot pursuit’ once the poachers have crossed the border back in Mozambique. During March 2013 alone, Kruger Park recoded 72 known cross-border armed incursions from Mozambique. Of the 94 rhino related arrests in South Africa this year, 44 of these have been in Kruger (9 May 2013)."

https://www.savetherhino.org/rhino_info/thorny_issues/mozambiques_role_in_the_poaching_crisis

1. SANDF have no "enemy" since they are not involved in fighting poaching

2. Since the deployment on the border cross-border poaching has declined massively.


Poaching is an internal problem and is not related to the Sandf

Stop trying to create an argument out of nothing


Rather focus on fixing your broken navy!
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 6:29pm On Aug 28, 2015
agaugust:


You just proved that your BSc Military Science degree is fake http://www.rt.com/shows/sophieco/mercenaries-better-us-army-560/
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Are you drunk?

Your link in no way refutes what he is saying!!

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by iblawi(m): 6:30pm On Aug 28, 2015
Patchesagain:


Citation needed

Poaching is an internal problem

Do you want to see stats from op Corona again?
international problem?
That's serious.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by FighterPilot(m): 6:30pm On Aug 28, 2015
agaugust:


That means SANDF is so dumb you don't even know where your enemy comes from, Rhino poachers are from across border Zimbabwe and Mozambique, South Africa is being invaded by armed men and you cannot stop them for ever.....failed bush war at home grin grin

"South Africa is currently experiencing a catastrophic rhino poaching crisis, with 668 rhinos lost during 2012. It is now evident that Mozambique has played a key role in this illegal killing.

The vast majority of rhinos killed in South Africa are poached in Kruger Poached rhino Limpopo South Africa (C) Sarah NelsonNational Park, which shares a long, porous border (356km) with Mozambique, where most of the poachers come from. Poachers from Mozambique are easily able to illegally slip across the border into Kruger National Park, and even if South African National Parks rangers are able to detect them, they are unable to carry out the ‘hot pursuit’ once the poachers have crossed the border back in Mozambique. During March 2013 alone, Kruger Park recoded 72 known cross-border armed incursions from Mozambique. Of the 94 rhino related arrests in South Africa this year, 44 of these have been in Kruger (9 May 2013)."

https://www.savetherhino.org/rhino_info/thorny_issues/mozambiques_role_in_the_poaching_crisis

Truly the only person that is dumb here is you. Your concentration is on KNP which is on the border but you fail to recognise the fact that SA has hundreds more private parks on the inside far from borders where poarching also takes place to greater extent.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 6:32pm On Aug 28, 2015
iblawi:
Pls who are those guys coming out from the MRAP?

South African soldiers deployed for Operation Corona - which is border protection and not anti-poaching

Game rangers are present as some borders go through game parks

This has been proven over, and over and over and over

Arguing is desperate to create a problem for the Sandf where none exists in order to distract us from the massive failings on the Nigerian security services
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by FighterPilot(m): 6:33pm On Aug 28, 2015
Patchesagain:


Are you drunk?

Your link in no way refutes what he is saying!!


What will a fake accountant cum military researcher ever find right about military discourse?
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 6:33pm On Aug 28, 2015
iblawi:
international problem?
That's serious.

Not as serious as your "internal problem" which has killed over 10,000 people, displaced over a million people and levelled or destroyed over 42 towns and cities
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 6:35pm On Aug 28, 2015
agaugust:


If those Rhinos are useless animals, why are you so worried about them you deployed a whole 21 battalion of SANDF and air force helicopters to fight save them? Why did you use aircraft to fly mere animals like VIP men to hide in escape to Botswana after the poachers defeated SANDF in your own homeland bush where your COIN and bush war tactics have failed you?

Those Rhinos are your natural resources with money value of millions dollars made on Rhino horns in the world market.

Same way if invaders from Zimbabwe cross border to steal your gold in illegal mining, will you say it's ordinary minerals not human beings?

It is the moral duty, and constitutional duty of ALL MILITARY FORCES in the world to defend the territorial integrity of their country when foreigners violate your land from another country, yes the territorial integrity and independence of South Africa is daily violated by Zimbabwean Rhino poachers, that is a job for SANDF your military, not your Forest Ranger men, your national land is now being invaded and your natural resources of Rhino horns is being looted daily in a brutal bloodshed of the Rhinos.

It is the duty of South African military to defend South Africa from armed foreigners, SANDF has failed at home, your COIN skills are ZERO and your Bush war tactics are a FAILURE in your own fatherland......thanks to your INEXPERIENCED ARMY and incompetent Generals tongue tongue

Your South African military has NOTHING to teach Nigerian military, we have succeeded in real combat, you have NEVER achieved that.

Read the story of SANDF current deployment in anti-Rhino operations and the failures....

http://www.defenceweb.co.za/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=37561:sandf-ill-discipline-sticks-its-head-out-in-kruger&catid=111:sa-defence

SANDF troops with MRAP in current anti-Rhino operations January 2015....Failure in Bush War on homeland tongue tongue


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F@ucktard why you diverting issues, from your gay cross dressing army who run with panties in there hands when they just hear screams from a boko boy assault.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by ssaengine: 6:35pm On Aug 28, 2015
Sometimes their size is taken for granted. Obviously not anywhere near the biggest, but not tiny.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 6:35pm On Aug 28, 2015
Lol

When I log on augubugug runs away!

Hahahaha, he fears me more than a dose of hot pepper sauce in the nose!

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by FighterPilot(m): 6:35pm On Aug 28, 2015
agaugust:


Russia is not western power, it is eastern bloc you fake BSc military science fraudster grin

Citation for the over 4,000 NA troops trained by Barlow.....fraudster.....4,000 men drive in our 30 REVA MRAPS.....fool grin
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Who said anything about western powers? Clearly you proved times without numbers that you lose concentration very easily.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 6:36pm On Aug 28, 2015
ssaengine:
Sometimes their size is taken for granted. Obviously not anywhere near the biggest, but not tiny.


Magnificent
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by FighterPilot(m): 6:37pm On Aug 28, 2015
Patchesagain:


Not as serious as your "internal problem" which has killed over 10,000 people, displaced over a million people and levelled or destroyed over 42 towns and cities

Almost over 20 000 people are recorded to have been killed in BH war since the insurgency started.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by iblawi(m): 6:40pm On Aug 28, 2015
Patchesagain:


Not as serious as your "internal problem" which has killed over 10,000 people, displaced over a million people and levelled or destroyed over 42 towns and cities
Sorry but NE Nigeria is better than what you use to know. Economic activities are going on properly in the region now. And soon we won't case of boko haram again. 42 town maybe seriously affect but not destroyed.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by iblawi(m): 6:40pm On Aug 28, 2015
FighterPilot:


Almost over 20 000 people are recorded to have been killed in BH war since the insurgency started.
Who recorded it? It's only an estimate.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 6:47pm On Aug 28, 2015
iblawi:
Sorry but NE Nigeria is better than what you use to know. Economic activities are going on properly in the region now. And soon we won't case of boko haram again. 42 town maybe seriously affect but not destroyed.

Still waaay worse than a couple of rangers struggling to cope with poachers in an area the size of wales

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