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5 Things I Notice Every Time I Argue With Theist(s) by Nobody: 10:43am On Aug 30, 2015 |
First off,I'm an atheist with a difference,I don't take pride in taking god's legacy just to torture it down but upon daily studies,researches and cognitive everyday life,have come to realization that planet Earth is a place where ignorance is common sense and senseless is the norm either way an average theist or believer would still conceive the truth as torturing the legacy of their god. I'm very conservative but when its time to voice out on things that matter I never relent and this has earn me some little respect amongst my peers and those who know am atheist both in my department,neighbourhood,social gathering etc So,Upon my argument or debate with random theists here are 5 finger arm point I could probably say makes believers so militant to their religion. 1-Lack of comprehension of basic school subjects :-Most christians out there never really understood basic school subjects like biology,physics and chemistry,On a second thought,there are extremely brilliant christians out there in those subjects aforementioned but they are actually brilliant for the sake of studying those subjects to pass,make A grade or become a tutor,they never link their understanding of those subjects to their existence on planet earth. 2-Denial:-Through the process of indoctrination since birth,a fundamentalist christian is taught faith and when faith fails them,they get denial e.g,God knows best,God knows why s/he died,God knows why I failed,Thank God I didn't die but sustained minor injury etc. All these are result of faith gone wrong because if your faith works,Nothing bad would happen to you as long as you know faith. 3-Bible:- During argument with mostly christians I realize most christians don't even the bible better than an average atheist out there,Funny as it sounds,60.5% of christians don't even know the catholics has a different bible different from the regular king james version bible they carry around. Most christians accepts the sugar coated verses of the bible and disregard other verses that seems to contradicts the sugar coated verses. However,Christians believe the bible and holds it high esteem without knowing its a work of fiction from different culture of different tribes and countries but it was put together by early men who did it for no reason but to test their writing skill in english language. (Read up the history of English language for more clarification) 4-Socialization:- A younging grew up in family of christianity and so,through the process of socialization and internalization he copies the values,norms and belief system of his root,he does this to have an identify of where he is from, in other words,Culture,the total way of life of a specific people but I tell you what,Universal truth is never measured in mass appeal,However,Intelligence is the ability to learn,unlearn and relearn,when someone who was born into a christian socialized home grows up to be atheist,Respect him for his critical thought of stepping out the socialized matrix. 5-Ignorance:- Ignorance is worst than cancer and hiv aids syndrome,when you don't know you think you know because you seeing through the eyes of people who are out to rip you off. Ignorance can take the whole of the remaining page but I would like to keep it simple and plain but saying when you one,you wouldn't wanna know another one and how to connect both to give two but when you don't know at all,you assume you know because the brain is naturally lazy and you resort to organic thoughts believing Jesus was born in December 25 because you were told. 10 Likes 1 Share |
Re: 5 Things I Notice Every Time I Argue With Theist(s) by Buho(m): 10:49am On Aug 30, 2015 |
so who brought you into existence 1 Like |
Re: 5 Things I Notice Every Time I Argue With Theist(s) by Nobody: 10:50am On Aug 30, 2015 |
Buho:You fall under the category of No 1 16 Likes |
Re: 5 Things I Notice Every Time I Argue With Theist(s) by Nobody: 10:52am On Aug 30, 2015 |
How intelligent of you the atheist with a difference. What you wrote may be true but not in all cases. But then I also think you have a portion of these yourself. What does this really mean: 'they never link their understanding of those subjects to their existence on planet earth'. |
Re: 5 Things I Notice Every Time I Argue With Theist(s) by Nobody: 10:55am On Aug 30, 2015 |
Reyginus:It means you so believe in the creation story of No3 instead of digging deep No 1. 1 Like |
Re: 5 Things I Notice Every Time I Argue With Theist(s) by Buho(m): 11:00am On Aug 30, 2015 |
aaronson:as an atheist i want you to give me a scientific explanation on how human came into existence and please dont tell me you believe in the homosappien or homoerectus stuff. 2 Likes |
Re: 5 Things I Notice Every Time I Argue With Theist(s) by mofayodeyahoo: 11:01am On Aug 30, 2015 |
Dare come my church next sunday, you will av better thought on this writeup, dont even reserve any money for offerring. Our forefather believe there are spirits good and bad..... |
Re: 5 Things I Notice Every Time I Argue With Theist(s) by Buho(m): 11:04am On Aug 30, 2015 |
the fact that you dont believe in God doesn't mean there is no God. God bless you. |
Re: 5 Things I Notice Every Time I Argue With Theist(s) by Nobody: 11:07am On Aug 30, 2015 |
aaronson:That's not my question. I'm only asking for clarification. You don't just say that a person believes in a thing and it is fiction even without giving any reasons why. What are the natural laws they contradict and what's the limit of the natural laws in existence/you know? 1 Like |
Re: 5 Things I Notice Every Time I Argue With Theist(s) by Nobody: 11:12am On Aug 30, 2015 |
Buho:Still category No 1,Go study aforementioned subjects and other random books on psychology,philosophy,Astronomy,Geology etc because I can't school you on this thread,Aint no time writing to you complex vocabulary which you won't easily comprehend that's why I urge you start from the basic on your own. Don't forget to also study the history of English,it would do you good for more understand. |
Re: 5 Things I Notice Every Time I Argue With Theist(s) by Buho(m): 11:15am On Aug 30, 2015 |
aaronson:i would include you in my prayers 4 Likes |
Re: 5 Things I Notice Every Time I Argue With Theist(s) by Nobody: 11:17am On Aug 30, 2015 |
mofayodeyahoo:Must I come to your church to be told repetition of fairytales and spirits otherwise known as the study of the metaphysics is based on rational forces which really don't exist but your believe in it is the rational force to make it seem what it looks,the moment you loose your believe in the spiritual content same moment it gains its impotence. |
Re: 5 Things I Notice Every Time I Argue With Theist(s) by Nobody: 11:20am On Aug 30, 2015 |
Reyginus:The reason its fiction is because it bares no proof from an authorized god you guys claim and on my own,I traced them down to the work of men who were no smarted than you. |
Re: 5 Things I Notice Every Time I Argue With Theist(s) by Nobody: 11:23am On Aug 30, 2015 |
Buho:Prayer point should be....Oh god please,let that terribly atheist accept your existence with no proof. Amen 2 Likes |
Re: 5 Things I Notice Every Time I Argue With Theist(s) by Buho(m): 11:25am On Aug 30, 2015 |
aaronson:i dont worship a god i worship God |
Re: 5 Things I Notice Every Time I Argue With Theist(s) by Nobody: 11:27am On Aug 30, 2015 |
aaronson:It's really shocking how the atheists think. So you guys believe that suddenly out of nothing and by no one the heavens just appeared and stood there, the Sun, Stars in there galaxies, the moons and planets all just came out of there own without anyone making them ? Come to think of it the things you are hammering on about in the text books were things discovered not created by the authors of those books. They only discovered and began to learn what someone (God) had created !. Since the textbooks are the answer why haven't you and your like created a replica so that we will believe you. God is the owner and creator of the universe including you. take it or leave it ! 1 Like |
Re: 5 Things I Notice Every Time I Argue With Theist(s) by Nobody: 11:28am On Aug 30, 2015 |
Buho:If you dog was real he wouldn't have issues with capital letter or small letter....opppss I meant god. 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: 5 Things I Notice Every Time I Argue With Theist(s) by Nobody: 11:32am On Aug 30, 2015 |
aaronson:You are not saying anything related yet. Do you even understand what you are saying? You see, these your words: 'it bares no proof from an authorized god you guys claim'; is not really rational. As in, it bears no proof from an authorized god? How should something from an authorized god look like? Do you think an 'authorized god' will operate, that is, reason, at the same level with your kind? But then that's not even the question you are responding to. I'm helping you understand the irrationality of that last sentence. The question is, what are these natural laws the bible contradict and what's the limit of the natural laws under nature? 1 Like |
Re: 5 Things I Notice Every Time I Argue With Theist(s) by Nobody: 11:34am On Aug 30, 2015 |
fantasticshaw:Okay if you say so,then next tine you fall ill please don't go to the hospital because those drugs and injections are works and evidence of researches you claim are not original Instead sit at home with the illness and wait on god....You also fall under category No1. 1 Like |
Re: 5 Things I Notice Every Time I Argue With Theist(s) by phyllosilicate(m): 11:41am On Aug 30, 2015 |
I think the title should be - "5 Things I Notice Every Time I Argue With Christian(s)". You were only mentioning christians. Two things I noticed about atheist: 1, I noticed when Atheists GENERALIZE. They poke holes in the Christians beliefs in God, then they conclude all religions are false. 2. Majority (100% of atheist I know) were Christians. 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: 5 Things I Notice Every Time I Argue With Theist(s) by Nobody: 11:42am On Aug 30, 2015 |
Reyginus:First off,I'm glad you don't know nothing of what something form an authorized god should look like because it clear,everything you have is fake from an UNAUTHORIZED god and source. Secondly,I never said babble/Bye bull/bible law contradicts that of the natural law,what I stated in my original post was,Bible verses contradict themselves. |
Re: 5 Things I Notice Every Time I Argue With Theist(s) by Nobody: 11:44am On Aug 30, 2015 |
phyllosilicate:Doesn't rule out the fact that we in a christian dominated society. |
Re: 5 Things I Notice Every Time I Argue With Theist(s) by Nobody: 11:52am On Aug 30, 2015 |
2 Things I've noticed with Atheists: 1. They claim God doesn't exist, but still hate him and are obsessed with him. Obsessed with a Being that does not exist. 2. They want God to prove Himself to them. "If you exist, do this or that" Like God is a mere man that you can order about. 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: 5 Things I Notice Every Time I Argue With Theist(s) by Nobody: 11:53am On Aug 30, 2015 |
aaronson:It is a question, bro. I am yet to make any claim. I am simply asking you how you expect something from an 'authorized god' to look like. So help me with the question and stop saying things I did not say. Lol. And now I don't understand you. Remind me of your point again when you speak of the ignorance of the Christian as it relates the science subjects. |
Re: 5 Things I Notice Every Time I Argue With Theist(s) by phyllosilicate(m): 11:57am On Aug 30, 2015 |
aaronson:I am talking about the world, even Nigeria where their are large non christians. Google - how to convert a christian to atheism. You would find different techniques that works. Google- how to convert a muslim to atheism. I just did, I didn't find one article. While I was searching for how, I saw this atheist furum. I was shocked that they were lamenting why athiest never wins muslim atheist debates. But if it comes to bashing christianity, it would be something else. http://www.councilofexmuslims.com/index.php?topic=17190.0 |
Re: 5 Things I Notice Every Time I Argue With Theist(s) by Nobody: 12:12pm On Aug 30, 2015 |
aaronson:you amaze me. Have you not even heard doctors say we treat God heals. It's still the same thing we saying. Men discovered things that were already created and studied how to use and manipulate them. They were not men's inventions. Even the inventions man can claim he did has their basic building blocks taking from what was already existing. The brain he used was not his making it was designed, made and given to him by God. Have you not read about Solomon the wise, how God increased his wisdom. Before drugs were made into tablets and pills, man discovered roots and herbs that could heal different kinds of sicknesses, again they were made by God. That God made these things does not mean we should be lazy and sit around. We have to work and that's why he gave us brain He didn't make us zombies rather, He gave us rational minds so that we can discover things He has made. But you guys are channeling it in the wrong way by doubting the very source of it. Repent ! |
Re: 5 Things I Notice Every Time I Argue With Theist(s) by Nobody: 12:32pm On Aug 30, 2015 |
fantasticshaw:if your claim about god giving human brain to find or discover drugs,why hasn't god given the best doctor the brain to find or discovered the cure for AIDS? Why is he wasting time to grow the herbs so physicians could find it? No god gives you wisdom but your learned wisdom which you got through education and learned skills. Okay,let me flip it over,god created human with the ability to use logic,Leaves no logical proof he exit & still will burn me in hell for not believing in his existence,Does this make sense to you? 4 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: 5 Things I Notice Every Time I Argue With Theist(s) by Nobody: 12:37pm On Aug 30, 2015 |
phyllosilicate:Funny how you talking about the literature review on google when we here talking indigenous reality,Christianity is the most popular religion with large worshipers base,different dominations with different dogma,can you say that of the muslim? |
Re: 5 Things I Notice Every Time I Argue With Theist(s) by phyllosilicate(m): 12:40pm On Aug 30, 2015 |
aaronson:is Nigeria a christian dominated society? Or is this RomanLand? |
Re: 5 Things I Notice Every Time I Argue With Theist(s) by Nobody: 12:42pm On Aug 30, 2015 |
Reyginus:How do you expect me,a proud atheist tell you stuff an authorized god should look like when the burden of proof is on you who practice christianity religiously,this is so illogical and petty. |
Re: 5 Things I Notice Every Time I Argue With Theist(s) by Nobody: 12:46pm On Aug 30, 2015 |
phyllosilicate:You don't even have a stance on this,you going back and forth,making your argument illogical. Right,In Nigeria,what is the most popular religion with the largest worshipers? |
Re: 5 Things I Notice Every Time I Argue With Theist(s) by SonOfEl(m): 12:48pm On Aug 30, 2015 |
aaronson: if only you understand how God speaks....faith will continue to exceed boundaries where human reason LIMITS....for me, reason is and will always be a subset of faith. faith in a higher power makes you 'walk upon seas'....you tend to survive the impossible by faith, because it assures you to keep moving and keep believing. I am a testimony of that living faith. all these categories made by the op is a futile effort in putting believers in 'boxes' of his logic. you ATHEISTS are already in our box too, the box category called FOOLISHNESS. |
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