bakila:

Will you in truth to your conscience say that Jonathan and his cohorts did not steal? Who are you to stop the government from informing the citizens the state of their country as managed or mismanage by Jonathan. Nigerians have begun to see light, the days of PDP's impunity to its members and Nigerians is the last chapter of our history. State you views as loud as you can as the opposition, Nigerians don dey see light, if you wail with you eye closed na you sabi.

1)Nigerians saw light as you said thanks to Jonathan who allowed elections to take and votes counted for the first time...

2)Nigerians saw light thanks to Jonathan who signed FOI and allowed transparency in governance unlike in the past...

3)Truth is people want their enemies or those they hate humiliated or jailed but not to end corruption...I am yet to see ALL APC supporters who want Jonathan jailed cry out or question why FOI has been rejected in APC States like Lagos, Oyo etc...what are they hiding...

4)If Jonathan stole, APC or Buhari would have thrown up the evidence long since...but because they lack evidence, they rather poison mind of people about him and PDP because they are afraid of these people resurrecting again when their ineptitude in governance is displayed...

5)If anybody steals, allow the person face the music...NOBODY is PDP or Jonathan's ministers...What is the name of the thief

Well, I noticed from sai Buhari lūnatics that this isn't about performance but rather about who gets to be in power. Otherwise, how'd one explain how some fooools feels so comfortable with someone using four years to fight perceived enemies in the guise of "fighting corruption"?

APC wants Buhari's "body odour" to do the work for him while they use media to prosecute and jail their enemies.

They even went as far as denying most of their campaign promises while the ones left, they claim GEJ is the reason they can't fulfill them. In essence, they have absolutely nothing to offer Nigerians? Now the so called patriotic (parrotic) Gbawe is no where to be found.

Nigeria is doomed!!!

Obinoscopy , Lalasticlala ...kindly do the needful here for more discussion and input...thanks

Your logic can be stunning when it comes to analyzing APC and their utterances. Saying campaign promises can't be fulfilled because of previous administration loot and malady is simple logic for all to understand, so it beats me that you can't put your intelligence at play on this. Well Maybe because It's APC...

Let me put it for you in layman language then.

SEE EHN, THE PAST GOVERNMENT OF GOODLUCK JONATHAN AND HIM PREDECESSORS TIFF MONEY AND MAKE THE COUNTRY SCATTER TO THE EXTENT SAY BUHARI NEVER EVEN START HIS OWN PROMISES. HE IS BUILDING AND REPAIRING THE YAMA YAMA WEY HIM MEET, SO AFTER THEN, HE WILL START. SO NA WETIN THE STATEMENT MEAN BE THAT.


IF YOU STILL WANNA CREATE A THREAD ON THIS, THEN YOU NEED JESUS OR EXTRA TERRESTRIAL HELP. ADIOS AMIGOS..

Whynotthetruth:
IdisuleOurOwn: I did make a promise...

Of course, you did make a promise.
The promise was that whenever you open a wailing thread, you will invite me to come and laugh at your wailing.


Freemanan just give you a tip of an iceberg.

when the deputy senate president, deputy speaker, secretary to state government, minister of finance, minister of power were Igbos there was no problem.

what's the meaning of the thread title?

Nigerians are educated illiterate..hw can a reasonable person vote for an extremist and dictator, is it because we hv no other good candidate from north
We will live with our mistake according to FFK
Also the people giving Buhari bad advice for northern agender are Nasir Elrufai,Emir of Kano,Tambuwal ACF,and NEF

Freemanan:
Your logic can be stunning when it comes to analyzing APC and their utterances. Saying campaign promises can't be fulfilled because of previous administration loot and malady is simple logic for all to understand, so it beats me that you can't put your intelligence at play on this. Well Maybe because It's APC...

Let me put it for you in layman language then.

SEE EHN, THE PAST GOVERNMENT OF GOODLUCK JONATHAN AND HIM PREDECESSORS TIFF MONEY AND MAKE THE COUNTRY SCATTER TO THE EXTENT SAY BUHARI NEVER EVEN START HIS OWN PROMISES. HE IS BUILDING AND REPAIRING THE YAMA YAMA WEY HIM MEET, SO AFTER THEN, HE WILL START. SO NA WETIN THE STATEMENT MEAN BE THAT.


IF YOU STILL WANNA CREATE A THREAD ON THIS, THEN YOU NEED JESUS OR EXTRA TERRESTRIAL HELP. ADIOS AMIGOS..

Quit sounding ridiculous and childish here...

Which silly "building & repairing" is buhari doing?...Kindly list them with the specific MDAs where it is being undertaken...I need them seriously...

Which nonsense building and repairing has made Nigeria lose whooping 2.7trillion as at 2wks ago?

Which ediotic building and repairing forced new job creation down from 3.86% at handover to 2.3% as at early this month...BTW it was 6.7% same time last year...

Which nonsense building and repairing is killing SME's and forcing them to retrench workers?

I work with facts boy...don't come here to say ridiculous stuff...

What APC/Buhari is doing as at today is just to intimidate and kill opposition because they are afraid that they can't outdo PDP in good governance and PDP may resurrect again...

What changed between now and during campaign in terms of economic outlook in the world and country...Why deny your promises? Where's the integrity?

Now see Jonathan's 100days in office and compare with Buhari 100days...Buhari who has no idea about governance except his desire for power and authority...

https://www.nairaland.com/2565912/reno-omokri-24-key-achievements

Who have they arrested that stole under Jonathan aside lying and blackmailing them daily with contradictory figures...Name a single case of theft or corruption against the person of Jonathan... Am waiting

phyllosilicate:
when the deputy senate president, deputy speaker, secretary to state government, minister of finance, minister of power were Igbos there was no problem.

Quit sounding ridiculous...

Why not state order or hierarchy of power under Jonathan... let's see if it was skewed as it is today...

tpiander:
what's the meaning of the thread title?

Before APC/Buhari drives us past our destination with lies and propaganda...

IdisuleOurOwn:


Of course, you did make a promise.
The promise was that whenever you open a wailing thread, you will invite me to come and laugh at your wailing.


Freemanan just give you a tip of an iceberg.

Its well then...Hope you help him to answer my reply and questions too...

Add this too...

https://www.nairaland.com/2565966/kayode-ogundamisi-blasts-lai-mohammed

chiefmidwife:
Nigerians are educated illiterate..hw can a reasonable person vote for an extremist and dictator, is it because we hv no other good candidate from north
We will live with our mistake according to FFK
Also the people giving Buhari bad advice for northern agender are Nasir Elrufai,Emir of Kano,Tambuwal ACF,and NEF

I don't know if El-rufai is an extremist too as others...Remember these other people; Prof Ango Abdullahi, Junaid Mohammed and other poisonous entities there...

This op na biggest fooool o. Anybody wey no agree with you na im you dey call silly. Jona don lose if you like make you lose your sanity, na your palaver be dat.

DropShot:
This op na biggest fooool o. Anybody wey no agree with you na im you dey call silly. Jona don lose if you like make you lose your sanity, na your palaver be dat.

Maybe you read again and point anybody I called foool here...thanks

Whynotthetruth:


Maybe you read again and point anybody I called foool here...thanks

Me I no get ya time today o. There are many posters you've used "silly" for here. Grow up before it's too late.

DropShot:

Me I no get ya time today o. There are many posters you've used "silly" for here. Grow up before it's too late.

I never did call anybody that...Differentiate between asking someone to quit sounding like something and saying the person is same thing...thanks

Whynotthetruth:


Quit sounding ridiculous...

Why not state order or hierarchy of power under Jonathan... let's see if it was skewed as it is today...

why are you toeing the line of insults. Here is the hierarchy under Jonathan.
President - Ijaw
Vice president - hausa
Senate President - Idoma
Speaker - Hausa
Deputy senate president - Igbo
Deputy speaker - Igbo
Secretary to the state Government Igbo
.
Also

The coordinating Minister/ minister of finance - Igbo
Minister of Power - Igbo
Minister of Aviation - Igbo
Minister of Health - Igbo

.
Then you saw nothing wrong.

phyllosilicate:
why are you toeing the line of insults. Here is the hierarchy under Jonathan.
President - Ijaw
Vice president - hausa
Senate President - Idoma
Speaker - Hausa
Deputy senate president - Igbo
Deputy speaker - Igbo
Secretary to the state Government Igbo
.
Also

The coordinating Minister/ minister of finance - Igbo
Minister of Power - Igbo
Minister of Aviation - Igbo
Minister of Health - Igbo

.
Then you saw nothing wrong.

Sorry if you felt it was an insult...

Now, under Jonathan, ALL offices were duly allocated to different regions...hence nobody was shortchanged...

Now under Buhari-3Arms of government; Executive-North, Legislature-North(senate &Rep), Judiciary-North
AGF-North, EFCC-North, Security agencies-North except for one, All the offices you listed up there is occupied by northerners or SW for a few...These are the core or powerful offices in government...

Ministers are not as powerful... BTW constitution insists that ALL 36states must have a minister...So ALL those you labelled Igbo are from different states...

Let's be sincere broda miii

Whynotthetruth:


Sorry if you felt it was an insult...

Now, under Jonathan, ALL offices were duly allocated to different regions...hence nobody was shortchanged...

Now under Buhari-3Arms of government; Executive-North, Legislature-North(senate &Rep), Judiciary-North
AGF-North, EFCC-North, Security agencies-North except for one, All the offices you listed up there is occupied by northerners or SW for a few...These are the core or powerful offices in government...

Ministers are not as powerful... BTW constitution insists that ALL 36states must have a minister...So ALL those you labelled Igbo are from different states...

Let's be sincere broda miii

I am not bias, Jonathan first chief of staff is from my tribe. Let's be fair to both Buhari and Gej. Can you list the hierarchy under Buhari, the service chiefs, NSA, SSG and COF and AGF compare them with that of Jonathan appointments as at 2011.
.
+Let's us not go into the judiciary and EFCC yet as Buhari hasn't appointed new ones.

phyllosilicate:


I am not bias, Jonathan first chief of staff is from my tribe. Let's be fair to both Buhari and Gej. Can you list the hierarchy under Buhari, the service chiefs, NSA, SSG and COF and AGF compare them with that of Jonathan appointments as at 2011.
.
+Let's us not go into the judiciary and EFCC yet as Buhari hasn't appointed new ones.

I want you to list ALL THE APPOINTMENTS OF BUHARI AND SIDE BY SIDE WITH GEJ

phyllosilicate:


I am not bias, Jonathan first chief of staff is from my tribe. Let's be fair to both Buhari and Gej. Can you list the hierarchy under Buhari, the service chiefs, NSA, SSG and COF and AGF compare them with that of Jonathan appointments as at 2011.
.
+Let's us not go into the judiciary and EFCC yet as Buhari hasn't appointed new ones.

Key government offices...
President-North...Under Jonathan it was SS
Senate-North...Under Jonathan it was North
Rep-North...Under Jonathan it was North thanks to Tinubu & Gbajabiamila though allocated to SW...

Judiciary-North(buhari cannot remove him till he retires)
SGF-North...Under Jonathan it was SE
AGF-North...Under Jonathan it was SW
Budget office- ...Under Jonathan it was SS(appointed by Yar'adua)
Minister of Finance-Not yet...Under Jonathan it was SS...
https://www.nairaland.com/2429600/jonathans-appoinment-countering-deceit-some

baralatie:

I want you to list ALL THE APPOINTMENTS OF BUHARI AND SIDE BY SIDE WITH GEJ

Sir I would do that, I would use the first appointments by Jonathan to compare Buhari first appointments in order to be fair.
Starting with the Service Chiefs
Jonathan
Chief of Defence Staff: admiral Ola sa'ad ibrahim SW
Chief of Army Staff: LTgen. Ihejirika SE
Chief of Naval Staff: Vice admiral D.J Ezeoba SE
Inspector Gen Police Mohammad Abobakar don't know where from North
National Security advisor : Andrew Azazi SS

Buhari
Major-General Abayomi
Gabriel Olonishakin as Chief of Defence Staff; SW
Major-General T.Y. Buratai as Chief of Army Staff; NE
Rear Admiral Ibok-Ete Ekwe Ibas as Chief of Naval SS
Staff; and Air Vice Marshal Sadique Abubakar as
Chief of Air Staff.NE
He also appointed Air Vice Marshal Monday Riku
Morgan as Chief of Defence Intelligence; Retired NC
Major-General Babagana Monguno as National
Security Adviser. NW
Inspector of Police - Arase SS

I list other others.

phyllosilicate:
Sir I would do that, I would use the first appointments by Jonathan to compare Buhari first appointments in order to be fair.
Starting with the Service Chiefs
Jonathan
Chief of Defence Staff: admiral Ola sa'ad ibrahim SW
Chief of Army Staff: LTgen. Ihejirika SE
Chief of Naval Staff: Vice admiral D.J Ezeoba SE
Inspector Gen Police Mohammad Abobakar don't know where from North
National Security advisor : Andrew Azazi SS

Buhari
Major-General Abayomi
Gabriel Olonishakin as Chief of Defence Staff; SW
Major-General T.Y. Buratai as Chief of Army Staff; NE
Rear Admiral Ibok-Ete Ekwe Ibas as Chief of Naval SS
Staff; and Air Vice Marshal Sadique Abubakar as
Chief of Air Staff.NE
He also appointed Air Vice Marshal Monday Riku
Morgan as Chief of Defence Intelligence; Retired NC
Major-General Babagana Monguno as National
Security Adviser. NW
Inspector of Police - Arase SS

I list other others.

nice way you try to conceal the truth of the chief of air staff umaru dikko.
this is what and bow it stands and I want you to judge for yourself


'. Buhari. Gej
CDS. sw. (gej ) sw

COAS. ne. (gej ) se

CAS. ne. (gej ) n

CNS. ss. (gej) se

*COINTEL(created). nc

NSA. nw. (gej ) ss

IGP. Ss. ( gej )n



from the above you can see the loopsidedness of pmb

phyllosilicate:
when the deputy senate president, deputy speaker, secretary to state government, minister of finance, minister of power were Igbos there was no problem.

From your point of view, Igbos aren't even supposed to hold any single position. The truth is that you're sick and Nigeria as a whole is sick as well.

baralatie:


nice way you try to conceal the truth of the chief of air staff umaru dikko.
this is what and bow it stands and I want you to judge for yourself


'. Buhari. Gej
CDS. sw. (gej ) sw

COAS. ne. (gej ) se

CAS. ne. (gej ) n

CNS. ss. (gej) se

*COINTEL(created). nc

NSA. nw. (gej ) ss

IGP. Ss. ( gej )n



from the above you can see the loopsidedness of pmb

Oh I made a mistake but I indicated North East for the position.

.

Be that has it may, from what you posted;
PMB: 4 North, 3 South
GEJ: 2 North, 4 South

Show me the loopsidedness of PMP that is not in GEJ sir?

Whynotthetruth:


Its well then...Hope you help him to answer my reply and questions too...

Add this too...

https://www.nairaland.com/2565966/kayode-ogundamisi-blasts-lai-mohammed

I will only reply a post that requires feedback, so far, all I see is agents of individual means to exhibit argument skills and the likes Which I seriously want to avoid during my coming days on NL... You should wail constructively Mate...
I know you will assume I have no logical reply to your post so I am avoiding the question, well you may be right. I never seem to have my way around bunkums...

phyllosilicate:
Oh I made a mistake but I indicated North East for the position.

.

Be that has it may, from what you posted;
PMB: 4 North, 3 South
GEJ: 2 North, 4 South

Show me the loopsidedness of PMP that is not in GEJ sir?

since you have moved from zones to another classifications let me help you to generalize is well
*buhari
west=1
east=nil
south=2
north=4



*gej
west=1
east=2
south=1
north=2

over to you

fx45:
From your point of view, Igbos aren't even supposed to hold any single position. The truth is that you're sick and Nigeria as a whole is sick as well.

Almost all the contributors (pro and anti) were making sense until that wacko appeared with incontrovertible fallacy laden with error.

Truth ± Error = Terror (and this kills)

Jonathan is not from Southeast and isn't Igbo while Buhari is from Northwest and an Hausa/Fulani

Jonathan's first appointment weren't just balanced but very fair.

Do you know that a section of the country wouldn't be represented in Security meetings in PMB Government?

Do you know what balance is all about? Tell me which Team (Security, Political, Economy, Academics etc.) that was lopsided in GEJ Administration?

What more can I say, GEJ built 65 Almajiri schools and 10 Universities in Northern Nigeria to support Education.

Buhari just downgraded Alvan Ikoku University, Owerri back to College of Education.

Remember, Prof. Ruqayyatu Rufai was GEJ's Minister for Education.

baralatie:

since you have moved from zones to another classifications let me help you to generalize is well
*buhari
west=1
east=nil
south=2
north=4



*gej
west=1
east=2
south=1
north=2

over to you

Hahahaha, firstly say, in your previous post, you mention the geopolitical zones of the North in Buhari appointments and choose to use only north for that of Gej. I thought it was an oversight, now I know Better.

It is convenient for you to see the south as SW, SS and SE, But see the North as only North. If it was right for GeJ to have skipped a geopolitical Zone in the North, then it is rigth for PMB to skip a geopolitical zone in the South.
If it was right for GEJ to appoint SSG and COS from SS and SE, then it is right for PMB to appoint Them from NE/NC.
If it was right for GEJ to also appoint Minister of finance, works, Aviation, Agriculture, Power from the South, then I would not criticise PMB if he choose to appoint them from the North.
Though I am from the SOUTH SOUTH, I am Not a Hypocrite. What is sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander.

phyllosilicate:
Oh I made a mistake but I indicated North East for the position.

.

Be that has it may, from what you posted;
PMB: 4 North, 3 South
GEJ: 2 North, 4 South

Show me the loopsidedness of PMP that is not in GEJ sir?

Please correct what you stated above.

GEJ first appointment is as follows:

Top brass of the armed forces, the police and the State Security Services were removed and replaced yesterday by President Goodluck Jonathan, apparently to consolidate his hold on power five months before the general elections in which he said he will be contesting.

Jonathan promoted former Chief of Air Staff Air Marshal Oluseyi Petinrin to Chief of Defence Staff and fired all the other service chiefs—Army chief General Abdulrahman Dambazau, Navy chief Vice Admiral Ishaya Ibrahim and Defence Chief Air Chief Marshal Paul Dike.
 

He also removed the Inspector General of Police Ogbonna Onovo and Director-General of the SSS Afakriya Gadzama.

Jonathan appointed Major-General Onyeabor Azubike Ihejirika as Chief of Army Staff, Rear Admiral Ola Sa’ad Ibrahim as Chief of Naval Staff and Air Vice Marshal Mohammed Dikko Umar as Chief of Air Staff.

IsraeliAIRFORCE:


Please correct what you stated above.

GEJ first appointment is as follows:

Top brass of the armed forces, the police and the State Security Services were removed and replaced yesterday by President Goodluck Jonathan, apparently to consolidate his hold on power five months before the general elections in which he said he will be contesting.

Jonathan promoted former Chief of Air Staff Air Marshal Oluseyi Petinrin to Chief of Defence Staff and fired all the other service chiefs—Army chief General Abdulrahman Dambazau, Navy chief Vice Admiral Ishaya Ibrahim and Defence Chief Air Chief Marshal Paul Dike.
 

He also removed the Inspector General of Police Ogbonna Onovo and Director-General of the SSS Afakriya Gadzama.

Jonathan appointed Major-General Onyeabor Azubike Ihejirika as Chief of Army Staff, Rear Admiral Ola Sa’ad Ibrahim as Chief of Naval Staff and Air Vice Marshal Mohammed Dikko Umar as Chief of Air Staff.

I am talking about after the won election.