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Re: Protest in Uniport Teaching Hospital today due to the death of a student by soundtruth(m): 6:15pm On Aug 31, 2015 |
We hear that the UPTH CMD is very corrupt, there was no light, Saturday night and most of Sunday in UPTH. How can you run a teaching hospital without electricity? 2 Likes |
Re: Protest in Uniport Teaching Hospital today due to the death of a student by chukel(m): 6:39pm On Aug 31, 2015 |
Giyerte:really most undergraduates are pathetically illiterate. Read the boldened, u will understand the girl was a BID( brought in dead). How can you admit the dead. The girl slumped in her bathroom, was rushed to the hospital. The girl was confirmed dead and they wanted a corpse to be admitted. We are really training animals in universities these days. Poster said UPTH LACKS INCOMPETENCE.. Well that is the kind of University students we have. May her soul rest in peace. 4 Likes |
Re: Protest in Uniport Teaching Hospital today due to the death of a student by Nobody: 7:12pm On Aug 31, 2015 |
bushdoc9919: I see you're a doctor, its your field Sir. I'm only just some Engineering HSE personnel. |
Re: Protest in Uniport Teaching Hospital today due to the death of a student by melodies: 8:04pm On Aug 31, 2015 |
Excuse me, please don't mislead people, bmh is a functioning govt hospital in Rivers state, there r a thousand and one other private hospitals functioning in the state. Hatred should not make you mislead others. The statement Please stop misleading people. Bmh is a functional govt hospital in Rivers state and there r a thousand and one private hospitals manned by efficient doctors. If you feel d need to transport your pregnant relatives outside the state to give birth does not mean you should generalize. I personally gave birth in a private hospital in PH without complications. Your unjustified hatred for Rivers state should not make you mislead the public kaeforum: 3 Likes |
Re: Protest in Uniport Teaching Hospital today due to the death of a student by Candyrain(m): 8:10pm On Aug 31, 2015 |
This is really sad. It just came to my notice that the deceased young girl was a sister to one of my former course mate. It's a sad moment to the family. The name is Kelechi Ndulagwa ![]() ![]() 1 Like |
Re: Protest in Uniport Teaching Hospital today due to the death of a student by melodies: 8:48pm On Aug 31, 2015 |
Please stop misleading people. Bmh is a functional govt hospital in Rivers state. There r also a thousand and one other private hospitals manned by efficient doctors. The death of the student is regrettable but there is no hospital within and outside the country that can boast that no patient has ever died in their hospital. I stand to b corrected, if you know any hospital that hasnt recorded any death, please mention it. Your unjustified hatred for Rivers state should not make you mislead the public If you took a personal decision to transport your pregnant relatives outside the state does not give you the right to generalize. Your unjustified hatred for Rivers state should not make you mislead the public. kaeforum: 1 Like |
Re: Protest in Uniport Teaching Hospital today due to the death of a student by Orikinla(m): 8:56pm On Aug 31, 2015 |
[size=18pt]Too many cultists in Nigerian hospitals. Students and poor people must seek alternative medical attention for emergencies. The new government of APC should bring in Cuban and Israeli doctors who are real medical doctors.[/size] |
Re: Protest in Uniport Teaching Hospital today due to the death of a student by Orikinla(m): 8:57pm On Aug 31, 2015 |
soundtruth:[size=18pt]They are cultists. [/size] |
Re: Protest in Uniport Teaching Hospital today due to the death of a student by onyxo76(m): 9:16pm On Aug 31, 2015 |
doesn't the university have a health center for the students? |
Re: Protest in Uniport Teaching Hospital today due to the death of a student by onyxo76(m): 9:18pm On Aug 31, 2015 |
Orikinla:good idea ...but can you afford to pay them ? their salary is in dollars not naira . |
Re: Protest in Uniport Teaching Hospital today due to the death of a student by Bjergtrolde: 9:27pm On Aug 31, 2015 |
Kinfunfun22: Yes I agree half knowledge is bad. Use google , its your friend. Everyone who gets to an Accident and Emergency Department should get triaged. That is how you determine who gets seen immediately and who can wait and who you can ask to get out of your department. Go read it up Now let me school you. An accident an emergency department is not a bus. You do not take a certain number of passengers and shout shop and drive a way. It is the common access to a hospital. "We do not have space" is not an option. Emergency Department is like a post office sorting office, you sort patients by specialty and dispatch those that need transfer to wards or for discharge, you stabilise and resuscitate those that need it. ( these are a minority of patients as majority are walking wounded). Now when someone comes in, you triage and based on severity of new admission, you go and reassess those already admitted and prioritize your resources for use by the ill ones. Finally, you were not discerning enough to see that I was responding to the garbage spewed by Bushdoc9919. Go read it. |
Re: Protest in Uniport Teaching Hospital today due to the death of a student by Bjergtrolde: 9:35pm On Aug 31, 2015 |
DrObum: The entire situation is wrong but you are wrong on which aspect of care was faulty. Lets break this down a notch. 1)You are an accident and emergency department, people come to your for medical care. 2) Without this medical care, they will die. 3) There are several hospitals in Port Harcourt 4) "You are full", "You have no space" 5) Someone comes to you for medical help Do you A) Attend to them immediately, B) Do you ask them to go to another hospital or C) Do you keep then in your "full" department, knowing that they would not be attended to , as they bleed to death? When they finally die, Do you sleep well at night? |
Re: Protest in Uniport Teaching Hospital today due to the death of a student by Nobody: 9:39pm On Aug 31, 2015 |
Bjergtrolde: Yes....and in this case, there was no space, meaning it was a night when there were far more serious cases on the ward. What should have happened is that she should have been moved to the next tertiary hospital where there was space. Ideally, an ambulance would have been summoned and the paramedics would have been sent by dispatch to a hospital where there is space. I am afraid that you have no idea of what we medical people go through in this country. There have been times in a hospital where I worked when A and E were full to the brim with casualties, and with severe medical emergencies. It is under that condition that if they brought someone who has just slumped like your patient....that we have to say....Sorry there is no space....and refer to the next hospital. I am sorry you do not understand. There are bad doctors in this country, yes. There are also good doctors and nurses who work under limited conditions. Anyways, good night.......and we hope for a better Nigeria. |
Re: Protest in Uniport Teaching Hospital today due to the death of a student by Nobody: 9:41pm On Aug 31, 2015 |
Bjergtrolde: No space means no equipment to attend to the patient. No staff to attend to the patient. In other words...the conditions for the patient to be optimally attended to are not there. Now would you rather have optimal conditions.....or a dead patient because the medics were overstretched? Good evening.....have some empathy, man. |
Re: Protest in Uniport Teaching Hospital today due to the death of a student by Nobody: 9:51pm On Aug 31, 2015 |
Going further than this case. 1.We need to teach CPR to every person in this country. 2.Nigeria needs an ambulance service....and we need to have residency in Emergency Medicine. 3.We need a system whereby as soon as someone slumps.....we can call a number and an ambulance with trained paramedics is dispatched to the site....who administer first aid...and are then directed by central dispatch to the nearest free hospital. We may even need a helicopter....and trained emergency doctors. 4.On arrival at hopsital....doctors and nurses are ready for the patient. 5.We need more trained doctors and nurses....and better equiped primary health care centers. One reason why teaching hospital A and E are overstretched is because we do not have adequate primary care. 6.We need better roads, communications, etc. 7. Above all.....we need a better country. Good night. I am typing this from the job. I must add that I am upset by the fact that people blame medical docs, nurses etc for ALL the failures in the Nigerian health system. I do not defend bad medics. I know they exist. I also know that we cannot help patients in intolerable conditions.... So when we say....No space....it is not because we hate you, it is because we want better for you. We do not want you to be treated in suboptimal conditions that may still lead to your death. 1 Like |
Re: Protest in Uniport Teaching Hospital today due to the death of a student by DrObum(m): 9:51pm On Aug 31, 2015 |
Bjergtrolde:You're getting it wrong Sir! Most teaching hospitals have a policy that you can't send patients to private hospitals without a 'very very very' concrete reason and the scenario above doesn't defy that. Now that policy is to protect patients, so that they aren't diverted for selfish purposes. Now, back to this scenario, guess the lady was brought in by fellow students who must've stood there arguing why there are no spaces, which is wrong! If she was brought in an ambulance, the ambulance would've seen that the facilities are already stretched and she can't be received and make a swift turn to the next big health facility. So, that's why I tell you, the whole situation is pitiable and wrong! 1 Like |
Re: Protest in Uniport Teaching Hospital today due to the death of a student by Bjergtrolde: 9:52pm On Aug 31, 2015 |
bushdoc9919: Another wrong statement. Let me respond to the different parts of your post. There was no space in the A and E.....thus your triage argument has no merit.Accident and Emergency Department is a transit site, people come there and get moved on. People can be moved from a bed to accommodate a more ill patient. If they cannot be moved to a trolley/chair, all it takes is to expedite the transfer of those who have already be earmarked for admission to ward... this does not take 50 minutes. A simple retriage with determine who goes where.
This is absolutely wrong, traige is most effective when you do not have the resources. It enables you decide who you have to spend your scarce resources on. A B C D etc
What is adequate health care facilities? Yes we do not have it, neither does UK or USA. That is why they strive to continuously improve their facilities. Having said that, we have better facilities that several African countries but the produce better outcomes. Let me digress a bit, I agree with you that our facilities could be better, what have the medical profession done to improve that? When was the last time you went on strike to improve facilities? I know that the medical profession are on strike 6months out of twelve usually over pay. Something was wrong with the care, your attempts at rationalizing it does come across as insensitive. Swing on that. 1 Like |
Re: Protest in Uniport Teaching Hospital today due to the death of a student by Nobody: 9:55pm On Aug 31, 2015 |
Re: Protest in Uniport Teaching Hospital today due to the death of a student by Bjergtrolde: 10:01pm On Aug 31, 2015 |
DrObum: Well, the bolded is one of the big problems. The hospital/A&E department has no contingency plan. So if you are overwhelmed you just shut up shop while people bleed to death in your waiting area. Una strong sha. I don't think I will be able to sleep after one of these events. I guess its the liver you have accumulated over several episodes like this that has made you rationalise this event. Good night and I pray my relatives and I never have to suffer this. |
Re: Protest in Uniport Teaching Hospital today due to the death of a student by Bjergtrolde: 10:03pm On Aug 31, 2015 |
bushdoc9919: Tell that to this young lady. She was not given the option of deciding on the condition she was treated in |
Re: Protest in Uniport Teaching Hospital today due to the death of a student by DrObum(m): 10:14pm On Aug 31, 2015 |
Bjergtrolde:Goodnight bro, we acquired liver because just like soldiers, Nigeria threw us into the war front to fight with our bare hands. We do our best to keep people alive, but the faults in the system would always show up from time to time and embarrass everyone! When we demand that the government must address these issues and down tools, nigerians call us names and cajole us to continue in the same environment of mediocrity, what options do we have? We'll always be forced back to work. When it's election time, people insist that the next 'leader' must come from their side and after the elections, we bear their pains while themselves keeping wishing eventualities away from themselves and their loved ones. Well, I pray it doesn't come to anyone we love shaa. Final words, Nigerians should face realities and tackle our national challenges! 3 Likes |
Re: Protest in Uniport Teaching Hospital today due to the death of a student by eaglechild: 11:30pm On Aug 31, 2015 |
Orikinla:You are thinking upside down. Instead of asking for modern facilities and training equipment to help better our healthcare, You want money to be spent on payment of doctors who are not even acclamatised to tropical medicine. 1 Like |
Re: Protest in Uniport Teaching Hospital today due to the death of a student by phineas: 11:54pm On Aug 31, 2015 |
Bjergtrolde: You need to take a back seat on this topic, You obviously have zero clue of the daily workings of the Nigerian Hospital.That same bed space on the wards have other equally severe cases waiting to be admitted. No bed space is no bed space sad but that's it.You do not take responsibilty for a case you do not have resource or ability to manage no matter how emotional it gets, you stabilize if u can and refer. Nigerian tertiary centers are overwhelmed, the no bed space matter has been recurring since and still no new hospitals, I'm a Dr in Nigeria and with my "connections" I have had 3 critical close patients rejected for no bed space in Nigeria I understand I move on quickly to find alternative centers for care. Nigeria needs more tertiary centers perhaps we should just break it down to more hospital bed space for patients. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Protest in Uniport Teaching Hospital today due to the death of a student by samopeyemi: 6:54am On Sep 01, 2015 |
bushdoc9919: Hmmmm. Let us look at it from this angle, if that lady was her daughter, relative or someone very close to the said nurse, what would she do? No space and that's all!!! I know the bulk of the blame lies on the government, but we can always improvise, we've always been doing so. |
Re: Protest in Uniport Teaching Hospital today due to the death of a student by Nobody: 6:57am On Sep 01, 2015 |
Abeg! What are all these people who call themselves doctors saying. If a patient is rushed to the hospital, even if there is no space, you can give the person treatment and then transfer him or her. UPTH is the worst hospital I have ever been to. I was in pain as a child when my mother took me there. They told her to first of all go and buy card and pay before they commence treatment. What if something had happened to me? Time to attend to me, the nurse, (I still remember her) black and short . Told me to wait, I watched her, she went to her drawer brought out a spoon and went in to eat. Since then i told myself that I must become the president of Nigeria to trash out such...... Laziness. (that was only child's dream tho) And secondly the government should provide for the hospitals. Buy new and advanced equipment. A person who studies abroad can't work here. Because the facilities are rubbish. The government is too busy with themselves than the country. They are the ambassadors of poverty in this country. Kleptomaniacs. They do not pay salary, they do not provide these amenities that are necessary for our betterment. So don't blame the student please. She slumped, nd they rushed her to the hospital, probably in confusion. Wether she was already dead or not , that was meant for the doctor to confirm. |
Re: Protest in Uniport Teaching Hospital today due to the death of a student by Nobody: 7:10am On Sep 01, 2015 |
samopeyemi: 1.As much as possible....we try to avoid treating our relatives.(Psychological reasons). 2.If the nurse did as you suggest....it would involve diverting human and material resources from another sick patient...who is critical....and who would die. Remember....no space means the A and E is full to the brim with critical cases. |
Re: Protest in Uniport Teaching Hospital today due to the death of a student by Mikeysms(m): 7:49am On Sep 01, 2015 |
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Re: Protest in Uniport Teaching Hospital today due to the death of a student by dtishbite14(m): 10:49am On Sep 01, 2015 |
How's this my business ? ![]() |
Re: Protest in Uniport Teaching Hospital today due to the death of a student by ollgeetrxll(m): 10:52am On Sep 01, 2015 |
Giyerte: aluta. |
Re: Protest in Uniport Teaching Hospital today due to the death of a student by Mintus(m): 4:08pm On Sep 01, 2015 |
Visocrate:receive common sense....somebody died....a future leader.....please go nd pick up ur sense wia eva u dropped dem cos i knw God gv u one nd dnt 4get 2 dust ur sense wen u get it....hv value 4 life.... |
Re: Protest in Uniport Teaching Hospital today due to the death of a student by Visocrate(m): 4:36pm On Sep 01, 2015 |
Mintus:haven gone through your profile I need not not exchange words with you because when a fetus starts wriggling the amnion holds it in place we are not of the same level and cognition so please fix your self where you belong because as for me engaging you in a dialogue with this state of your neuronlessness is needless ok |
Re: Protest in Uniport Teaching Hospital today due to the death of a student by goodheart02(m): 6:37pm On Sep 01, 2015 |
slimmyjimmy:Yes oo.My broda. |
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