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Re: This Religion Promises Its Followers Hell. by jcross19: 5:03pm On Sep 04, 2015
lexiconkabir:
another reason why i said I am a goat, goats are annoying and very stubborn. I am exhibiting that very act!

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Re: This Religion Promises Its Followers Hell. by Nobody: 5:48pm On Sep 04, 2015
jcross19:
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lol, i know u must be very happy exchanging words with me. ok o, keep making a foolery of yourself.
Re: This Religion Promises Its Followers Hell. by jcross19: 5:50pm On Sep 04, 2015
lexiconkabir:
lol, i know u must be very happy exchanging words with me. ok o, keep making a foolery of yourself.
"k"
Re: This Religion Promises Its Followers Hell. by tartar9(m): 5:54pm On Sep 04, 2015
jcross19:
we don't keep beards in my church so you are the one that's a e- goat with dirty beard like mohamMAD.
like the beard your god including the biblical prophets have.
Re: This Religion Promises Its Followers Hell. by jcross19: 5:58pm On Sep 04, 2015
tartar9:
like the beard your god including the biblical prophets have.
everybody know that muslims men do keep beads like e-goat even you, how long is yours because the longer and dirty the beards the more you acquire la' ahda in allah brothel.
Re: This Religion Promises Its Followers Hell. by parisbookaddict(f): 6:01pm On Sep 04, 2015
CivilzedTyger:
Op May God Humilliate U 4 Dis...

U have spoken like a true muslim. I guess u are referring Islamic allah. The fellow is a figment of mohmmeds depraved mind. He is powerless.

Besides why do u react this way to truth. take a lOok at this thread. No muslim has been able to prove the op is wrong about what the quran says. You muslims are promised hell by your own book.
Re: This Religion Promises Its Followers Hell. by Nobody: 6:01pm On Sep 04, 2015
@proo212 go to https://www.nairaland.com/2314493/why-muslims-not-afraid-death and get your refutal since you are turning a blind eye to mine, pls follow the thread keenly.
Re: This Religion Promises Its Followers Hell. by Nobody: 6:05pm On Sep 04, 2015
jcross19:
everybody know that muslims men do keep beads like e-goat even you, how long is yours because the longer and dirty the beards the more you acquire la' ahda in allah brothel.
go and learn how to spell(@bolded)
Re: This Religion Promises Its Followers Hell. by parisbookaddict(f): 6:07pm On Sep 04, 2015
tartar9:
like the beard your god including the biblical prophets have.

Where did u see any biblical prophet, where is their photo. Besides its likely men grew their beards in the past out of circumstances since razors were not easily available.

Their is no command to Jews or Christians to grow beards.
Mohammed invented that.

Beards are cool on the right face but there should be no compulsion to grow them. Beside tartar9 you have none.
Re: This Religion Promises Its Followers Hell. by tartar9(m): 6:09pm On Sep 04, 2015
jcross19:
[s] everybody know that muslims men do keep beads like e-goat even you, how long is yours because the longer and dirty the beards the more you acquire la' ahda in allah brothel[/s].
lmao,they are running out of things to attack,its now beard.
Re: This Religion Promises Its Followers Hell. by jcross19: 6:09pm On Sep 04, 2015
lexiconkabir:
go and learn how to spell(@bolded)
I wrote it in pidgin form okay. That's not an excuse as far you get the message am passing across to you, basic.
Re: This Religion Promises Its Followers Hell. by jcross19: 6:11pm On Sep 04, 2015
tartar9:
lmao,they are running out of things to attack,its now beard.
can you see that you are failure upon how you cancel it people can still read from it. Ahahhahahah just laughing your pathetic allah.
Re: This Religion Promises Its Followers Hell. by proo212(m): 6:30pm On Sep 04, 2015
lexiconkabir:
@proo212 go to https://www.nairaland.com/2314493/why-muslims-not-afraid-death and get your refutal since you are turning a blind eye to mine, pls follow the thread keenly.

Sorry Lexiconkabir, but the tafsir has categorically stated that you guys will be in hell. Another explanation from other sources apart from tafsir and hadith as well as the Quran will not suffice.

Essentially, either you will be interceding for those in hell or you will be in hell as the reciepient of the intercession or i am going to replace you in hell.

This is really hypocritical since muslims always argue that the price Jesus Christ paid on the cross is meaningless. Why would one pay the price of sins of another. Everyone is responsible for his own sins.

The great dilemma....

undecided
Re: This Religion Promises Its Followers Hell. by tartar9(m): 6:32pm On Sep 04, 2015
parisbookaddict:


Where did u see any biblical prophet, where is their photo. Besides its likely men grew their beards in the past out of circumstances since razors were not easily available.

Their is no command to Jews or Christians to grow beards.
Mohammed invented that.

Beards are cool on the right face but there should be no compulsion to grow them. Beside tartar9 you have none.
who said its compulsory in Islam to grow long beards.you want to tell me orthodox Jews don't keep long beards.
"You shall not shave around the sides
of your head, nor shall you disfigure
the edges of your beard." (Leviticus
19:27)
"But every woman who prays or
prophesies with her head uncovered
dishonors her head--it is the same as
having her head shaved."(1corinthians 11:5)
Re: This Religion Promises Its Followers Hell. by CivilzedTyger(m): 6:32pm On Sep 04, 2015
parisbookaddict:


U have spoken like a true muslim. I guess u are referring Islamic allah. The fellow is a figment of mohmmeds depraved mind. He is powerless.

Besides why do u react this way to truth. take a lOok at this thread. No muslim has been able to prove the op is wrong about what the quran says. You muslims are promised hell by your own book.
I have decided 2 follow Islam .Rodditu Billahi Robba Rabbi Islam Deen Rabbi Muhammadu Nabiya Wa Rossullulah. Come Wat May My Religion My Business Let Me Go 2 Hell If Dats Wat U Think, Tommorow We Shall See I Cnt Use My Precious Islamic Knowledge And Time To Debate A Bedeviled Kafir May Allah Pay U Duely For D Part U Played In Spoiling My Day

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Re: This Religion Promises Its Followers Hell. by tartar9(m): 6:36pm On Sep 04, 2015
jcross19:
can you see that you are failure upon how you cancel it people can still read from it. Ahahhahahah just laughing your pathetic allah.
so the slash editing is now used to hide a comment undecided its obvious you're dumb.
Re: This Religion Promises Its Followers Hell. by CivilzedTyger(m): 6:39pm On Sep 04, 2015
jcross19:
which one is that God or allah because if you are talking about allah , I have been urinating on allah since 6ad. Ahahah toothless allah.
Do Not Qoute Me Again...
Re: This Religion Promises Its Followers Hell. by Nobody: 6:48pm On Sep 04, 2015
jcross19:
I wrote it in pidgin form okay. That's not an excuse as far you get the message am passing across to you, basic.
does he-goat has pidgin? smh!
Re: This Religion Promises Its Followers Hell. by Nobody: 6:54pm On Sep 04, 2015
proo212:


Sorry Lexiconkabir, but the tafsir has categorically stated that you guys will be in hell. Another explanation from other sources apart from tafsir and hadith as well as the Quran will not suffice.

Essentially, either you will be interceding for those in hell or you will be in hell as the reciepient of the intercession or i am going to replace you in hell.

This is really hypocritical since muslims always argue that the price Jesus Christ paid on the cross is meaningless. Why would one pay the price of sins of another. Everyone is responsible for his own sins.

The great dilemma....

undecided
you didnt visit that thread, if you did and you didnt find answers, then i must say that your eyes are blind, come to think of it, the ibn kathir tafsir you gave, has the answer you want, just that you are turning a blind eye to it! dont bother quoting me again, especially when you are being hypocritical. i have refuted your silly claims, using different mediums!
Re: This Religion Promises Its Followers Hell. by jcross19: 7:08pm On Sep 04, 2015
tartar9:
so the slash editing is now used to hide a comment undecided its obvious you're dumb.
are you sure? Boko haram.
Re: This Religion Promises Its Followers Hell. by proo212(m): 7:44pm On Sep 04, 2015
@Lexiconkabir,

I went to the thread and read the first page, its the same thing we're discussing here. You guys are placing your eternal destiny on semantics or assumed translation....

My prayer is that your eyes are opened to see the truth. This is my last post to this thread but i leave you with this hadith.

Volume 5, Book 58, Number 266 :
Narrated by 'Um al-'Ala
An Ansari woman who gave the pledge of allegiance to the Prophet that the Ansar drew lots concerning the dwelling of the Emigrants. 'Uthman bin Maz'un was decided to dwell with them (i.e. Um al-'Ala's family), 'Uthman fell ill and I nursed him till he died, and we covered him with his clothes. Then the Prophet came to us and I (addressing the dead body) said, "O Abu As-Sa'ib, may Allah's Mercy be on you! I bear witness that Allah has honored you." On that the Prophet said, "How do you know that Allah has honored him?" I replied, "I do not know. May my father and my mother be sacrificed for you, O Allah's Apostle! But who else is worthy of it (if not 'Uthman)?" He said, "As to him, by Allah, death has overtaken him, and I hope the best for him. By Allah, though I am the Apostle of Allah, yet I do not know what Allah will do to me," By Allah, I will never assert the piety of anyone after him. That made me sad, and when I slept I saw in a dream a flowing stream for 'Uthman bin Maz'un. I went to Allah's Apostle and told him of it. He remarked, "That symbolizes his (good) deeds.

If your prophet is not sure of his destination after death, i pity 1.6 billion followers undecided
Re: This Religion Promises Its Followers Hell. by parisbookaddict(f): 8:00pm On Sep 04, 2015
CivilzedTyger:
I have decided 2 follow Islam .Rodditu Billahi Robba Rabbi Islam Deen Rabbi Muhammadu Nabiya Wa Rossullulah. Come Wat May My Religion My Business Let Me Go 2 Hell If Dats Wat U Think, Tommorow We Shall See I Cnt Use My Precious Islamic Knowledge And Time To Debate A Bedeviled Kafir May Allah Pay U Duely For D Part U Played In Spoiling My Day

I didn't mean to spoil you day.

Look, I came across the passage and different translations and commentary show that mohammed promised muslims hell. You are brainwashed to think he is a prophet that's why u said this
My Religion My Business Let Me Go 2 Hell If Dats Wat U Think
Its not what I think, its wat ur quran says.

If being a Bedeviled Kafir means I do NOT believe in the prophethood of a MAN who spent his days killing christains, Jews, pagans, raiding caravans and having sex with a child, when he already had several wives and sex slaves, a man who was allegedly demon possessed and recited a ton of evil, who encouraged the rape of married captives, a man who lusted, married and slept with his son's ex wife after he divorced her because of him(Mohammed), and who levied jizyah tax as extortion on Christians, a man who persecuted Christians because he didn't understand the nature of God and who gave the satanic verses instructing people to worship the 3 daughters of Allah then returned to say he was decieved, then I say THANK YOU for the compliment.

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Re: This Religion Promises Its Followers Hell. by CivilzedTyger(m): 8:07pm On Sep 04, 2015
Look, I came across the passage and different translations and commentary show that mohammed promised muslims hell. You are brainwashed to think he is a prophet that's why u said this
Its not what I think, its wat ur quran says.

If being a Bedeviled Kafir means I do NOT believe in the prophethood of a MAN who spent his days killing christains, Jews, pagans, raiding caravans and having sex with a child, when he already had several wives and sex slaves, a man who was allegedly demon possessed and recited a ton of evil, who encouraged the rape of married captives, a man who lusted, married and slept with his son's ex wife after he divorced her because of him(Mohammed), and who levied jizyah tax as extortion on Christians, a man who persecuted Christians because he didn't understand the nature of God and who gave the satanic verses instructing people to worship the 3 daughters of Allah then returned to say he was decieved, It Suprises Me Hw U Got Those Crap But Pls Dnt Quote Me Again
Re: This Religion Promises Its Followers Hell. by Nobody: 8:16pm On Sep 04, 2015
proo212:
@Lexiconkabir,

I went to the thread and read the first page, its the same thing we're discussing here. You guys are placing your eternal destiny on semantics or assumed translation....

My prayer is that your eyes are opened to see the truth. This is my last post to this thread but i leave you with this hadith.



If your prophet is not sure of his destination after death, i pity 1.6 billion followers undecided
i maintain that you didnt read that thread with sincerity, if you did, you will see the place where muhammad said that he and his ummah(followers) will be the first to pass over hell(without falling inside). i'm done with you!
Re: This Religion Promises Its Followers Hell. by parisbookaddict(f): 8:21pm On Sep 04, 2015
tartar9:
who said its compulsory in Islam to grow long beards.

So its a coincidence that all imams, alfas shieks etc all grow their beards. U are supposed to emulate mohammed in every way including his beards, the recommended lenght is 3 fist fulls. Yes or no



you want to tell me orthodox Jews don't keep long beards.
"You shall not shave around the sides
of your head, nor shall you disfigure
the edges of your beard." (Leviticus
19:27)

Where does it say men should not cut or shave or lower or remove ur beards. ?? Disfiguring the edges of the beards or shaving the sides of the head could be a pagan practise at the time, Jews were a people set apart who were forbidden to copy pagan traditions.

Here is an expansion of that verse

26 Ye shall not eat any thing with the blood: neither shall ye use enchantment, nor observe times. 27 Ye shall not round the corners of your heads, neither shalt thou mar the corners of thy beard. 28 Ye shall not make any cuttings in your flesh for the dead, nor print any marks upon you: I am the Lord.

29 Do not prostitute thy daughter, to cause her to be a LovePeddler; lest the land fall to whoredom, and the land become full of wickedness.[s]



"But every woman who prays or
prophesies with her head uncovered
dishonors her head--it is the same as
having her head shaved."(1corinthians 11:5)

Yes, that verse recommends that women should cover their head in church. The church is not a place to display your Brazilian weaves and elaborate hair decorations. Its a house of worship.

There is no law asking women to wear burkars and hijab even in summer heat.
Only mohammed was dull enough to invent that.
Re: This Religion Promises Its Followers Hell. by bashbabe2: 9:06pm On Sep 04, 2015
CivilzedTyger:
Do Not Qoute Me Again...
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Dear brother, these people will say the most ridiculous things just to make you react. Just ignore, the prophet( peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) had worst things said. Don't let anyone spoil your mood all i do is actual pity them
You know the shayateens will do everything to make us be one of them.Like on forums like this, they are everywhere. May Allah have mercy on us and keep our feet firm on the right path.

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Re: This Religion Promises Its Followers Hell. by mustymatic(m): 9:06pm On Sep 04, 2015
parisbookaddict:


So its a coincidence that all imams, alfas shieks etc all grow their beards. U are supposed to emulate mohammed in every way including his beards, the recommended lenght is 3 fist fulls. Yes or no



Where does it say men should not cut or shave or lower or remove ur beards. ?? Disfiguring the edges of the beards or shaving the sides of the head could be a pagan practise at the time, Jews were a people set apart who were forbidden to copy pagan traditions.

Here is an expansion of that verse

26 Ye shall not eat any thing with the blood: neither shall ye use enchantment, nor observe times. 27 Ye shall not round the corners of your heads, neither shalt thou mar the corners of thy beard. 28 Ye shall not make any cuttings in your flesh for the dead, nor print any marks upon you: I am the Lord.

29 Do not prostitute thy daughter, to cause her to be a LovePeddler; lest the land fall to whoredom, and the land become full of wickedness.[s]



Yes, that verse recommends that women should cover their head in church. The church is not a place to display your Brazilian weaves and elaborate hair decorations. Its a house of worship.

There is no law asking women to wear burkars and hijab even in summer heat.
Only mohammed was dull enough to invent that.
yet d same xtians believed jesus ad beard and mary is covered....sm#
Re: This Religion Promises Its Followers Hell. by bashbabe2: 9:10pm On Sep 04, 2015
parisbookaddict:


I didn't mean to spoil you day.

Look, I came across the passage and different translations and commentary show that mohammed promised muslims hell. You are brainwashed to think he is a prophet that's why u said this
Its not what I think, its wat ur quran says.

If being a Bedeviled Kafir means I do NOT believe in the prophethood of a MAN who spent his days killing christains, Jews, pagans, raiding caravans and having sex with a child, when he already had several wives and sex slaves, a man who was allegedly demon possessed and recited a ton of evil, who encouraged the rape of married captives, a man who lusted, married and slept with his son's ex wife after he divorced her because of him(Mohammed), and who levied jizyah tax as extortion on Christians, a man who persecuted Christians because he didn't understand the nature of God and who gave the satanic verses instructing people to worship the 3 daughters of Allah then returned to say he was decieved, then I say THANK YOU for the compliment.

One day you will stop spewing trash.
Re: This Religion Promises Its Followers Hell. by CivilzedTyger(m): 9:17pm On Sep 04, 2015
bashbabe2:
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Dear brother, these people will say the most ridiculous things just to make you react. Just ignore, the prophet( peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) had worst things said. Don't let anyone spoil your mood all i do is actual pity them
You know the shayateens will do everything to make us be one of them.Like on forums like this, they are everywhere. May Allah have mercy on us and keep our feet firm on the right path.
Thanks 4 Ur Care I Never Knew There A Stil Good Muslims Like U Out There On NL Alhamdulilah
Re: This Religion Promises Its Followers Hell. by IdisuleOurOwn(m): 9:32pm On Sep 04, 2015
Sub Ana lah!


Brothers, this people have tried, day and night to see the down fall of this religion but they fail.


This is not a thing that started today, nor yesterday but some thousands years ago.

And if you look or study chronologically, you will find that all their efforts were /was in futility.



But, Alhamdullilah brother Demmzy15, Kabir and and the rest faithfuls are really doing a great job here.

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Re: This Religion Promises Its Followers Hell. by parisbookaddict(f): 11:05pm On Sep 04, 2015
mustymatic:
yet d same xtians believed jesus ad beard and mary is covered....sm#

Dude shaving is a novelty. Back in the day not everyone could do it. It will be surprising if it is discovered that ancient humans shaved . Your African ancestors did not.

My point is that growing beards should not be compulsory. It does not make you any more righteous or pious.
Osama bin laden, Arafat, al zawari etc were all evil men and had beards, 99.9 of Islamic terrorists have beards, did it make them pious or peace loving.

Judaism and Christianity does not force it on people. Only Islam does.. Islam is too focused on the external.

It is very likely Mary used a veil or scarf as was required of Jewish women especially in a place of worship but mohammed trying to copy the Jews introduced the burkar and hijab which was excessive. Not only that he made is compulsory. In 50 degrees heat muslim women are forced to wear it, even when they take pictures . Does that make sense. Orthodox churches, Catholics, coptics and some protestants make it compulsory for women to wear head covering in church as is recommended in the bible, just like Mary.

So what's ur point.
Re: This Religion Promises Its Followers Hell. by parisbookaddict(f): 11:14pm On Sep 04, 2015
bashbabe2:
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Dear brother, these people will say the most ridiculous things just to make you react. Just ignore, the prophet( peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) had worst things said. Don't let anyone spoil your mood all i do is actual pity them
You know the shayateens will do everything to make us be one of them.Like on forums like this, they are everywhere. May Allah have mercy on us and keep our feet firm on the right path.

Hey,
This stuff is from your book.

Its sad you decide to shut ur eyes to the truth. I show u ur passges clearly yet u refuse.

U said that Islamic allah should guide u and keep ur feet in the right path yet his prophet mohammed whom you apotheosize says he can't guide people rightly and didn't even know if he was going to paradise or hell.

Surah 72:21: Say, “I possess no
power to harm you, nor to guide
you.” (Khalifa)

“It is not in my power to cause you
harm, or to bring you to the Right
Path.” (Hilali-Khan)

Volume 5, Book 58, Number 266 :
Narrated by 'Um al-'Ala
An Ansari woman who gave the pledge of allegiance to the Prophet that the Ansar drew lots concerning the dwelling of the Emigrants. 'Uthman bin Maz'un was decided to dwell with them (i.e. Um al-'Ala's family), 'Uthman fell ill and I nursed him till he died, and we covered him with his clothes. Then the Prophet came to us and I (addressing the dead body) said, "O Abu As-Sa'ib, may Allah's Mercy be on you! I bear witness that Allah has honored you." On that the Prophet said, "How do you know that Allah has honored him?" I replied, "I do not know. May my father and my mother be sacrificed for you, O Allah's Apostle! But who else is worthy of it (if not 'Uthman)?" He said, "As to him, by Allah, death has overtaken him, and I hope the best for him.By Allah, though I am the Apostle of Allah, yet I do not know what Allah will do to me,"

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