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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 4:28pm On Sep 10, 2015 |
coogar: I don't get you. the quality of positions Rooney scored against are as the same if not better than the ones Ronaldo scored against. It took Rooney 13 years, same period it took Ronaldo. Rooney scored only 6 goals from set plays. So what is the issue about? Ronaldo and Messi have been set play takers for their national teams for almost the beginning. Rooney doesn't even take free kicks till now. Only started taking penalties a year ago. Rooney's goals : 2010-2015 = 25 2003-2010= 25 So you mean Rooney should be in midfield at a time his goals return is better? Your hatred for Rooney is written all over your argument. You are just looking for areas to rubbish him. You said Rooney has 1 goal in 10 world cup games. How many minutes did he play? He didn't start in 2 of the games coming in as late substitute. He was substituted off in some. Ronaldo has 3 goals in 13 world cup games, Roger Miller must be better. Roger Miller scored 4 goals in one world cup Italian 90 at age 38. Enner Valencia scored 3 goals in Brazil 2014. He must be a legend ahead of CR7 using your logic. There are only 43 footballers in history to have scored 50 goals at National Team level. Rooney is one of them. He is a legend for club and country. All football greats have acknowledged this fact. 5 Likes |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 4:39pm On Sep 10, 2015 |
I can see we're about to ve anoda elampiro vs Coogar tussle on this Rooney matter again..... *grabs guguru* |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 6:00pm On Sep 10, 2015 |
suxxman:Wait!! What?? Laff don kill me for here o ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by funlord(m): 6:08pm On Sep 10, 2015 |
![]() Whether na through throwing, offside or deflections rooney bin take amass those 50 goals he is still the man! Wazza na player! Take that to the bank and it will yield interest! |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Dadehmola: 6:40pm On Sep 10, 2015 |
So LVG isn't even targeting the EPL title. This man should leave the club Abeg. |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 6:44pm On Sep 10, 2015 |
elampiro: except that rooney is a striker for the 3 lions, ronaldo is a winger for portugal. and we are talking about ronaldo who is the best player for his country shunted wide. rooney has more quality players around him for country than ronaldo does for portugal. it only takes a lack of form for ronaldo for portugal to collapse. england has proven time and time again that they are better off without rooney. it's only when rooney goes back to the team that england crashes out of tournaments apart from euro 2004 when he was by far the best player in the tournament. world cup 2006....rooney ruined it for england. euro 2012......rooney ruined it for england. world cup 2010....rooney ruined it for england. world cup 2014....rooney ruined it for england.
rooney woulda been sent back to the midfield when it took him almost 8 years to score 25 goals between 2003 & 2010. there were other productive english strikers in this period but the moment they suffer drought in terms of goalscoring, the media quickly bring out their knives to shank them back to the abyss. whereas for rooney, he can go 20 games without a goal for england and the media would blame lunar eclipse, the calories of burger, the prime minister or the birth of his baby as excuses for his loss of form. it's one rule for the other english strikers and another for wayne rooney.
how many goals does rooney actually need to score 2 world cup goals? comparing miller to ronaldo is an insult. ronaldo is a winger for portugal in all the world cup outings....he's never been a striker for portugal. we might as well expect david beckham to have scored more goals than van nistelrooy.
valencia is a striker, ronaldo is a winger and wayne rooney is a striker. valencia and rooney should be scoring more goals than ronaldo for their respective national teams.
the number of goals is irrelevant if we cannot account for how many games it took them to reach 50. if baba suwe plays 300 games for the super eagles as a striker, he would score 50 goals for nigeria. the rate is the single most important factor here not the sheer number of goals. 6 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by raumdeuter: 7:09pm On Sep 10, 2015 |
Dadehmola: Dadehmola: Imagine a league where a supposed title contender claims they arent targetting the title after spending 200m in 2yrs They should cancel that league with red biro |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Dadehmola: 7:23pm On Sep 10, 2015 |
raumdeuter: The only difference is that the useless title contenders in the bundesliga always see bayern as the standard /yardstick - everything is always about Bayern. Ofcourse lots of people will be dissapointed in LVG's comments but year in year out, such statements are synonymous with managers of Wolfsburg, Dortmund & Leverkusen (supposed title contenders). The Bundesliga is the most useless league in the world!! |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by chrisley024(m): 7:25pm On Sep 10, 2015 |
Either this coach is suffering from his old age or he takes weed before talking to the press. ![]() |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by sinizia: 7:39pm On Sep 10, 2015 |
tess1:It doesn't mean that. It means they would wait for end of the season to sign him for free. |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by sinizia: 7:45pm On Sep 10, 2015 |
coogar: You are taking the rantings of shekpe fans serious? Clowns that have 99% of their posts as trolling and the remaining percent as facts? Even the most irredeemable anti-United fan knows Smalling has been a rock for United since the ending of last season. |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 7:45pm On Sep 10, 2015 |
coogar: Ronaldo a winger. Rooney has also played in the wing and mostly as attacking midfielder. Was James Rodriquez a striker in the world cup? Was Sneidjer a striker in the world cup. So we excuse for Ronaldo who had a free role. In last world cup Ronaldo was mostly in the middle. I can count many wingers who have more than three world cup goals from two world cups but Ronaldo has 3 . From Midfield, Gerald, Viera and Schwesteiger scored two goals in world cup 2006. They must be better than Ronaldo. And Ronaldo in last world cup was more in the center forward zone. Lies upon lies. How did Rooney ruined world cup for England? 2014 Rooney had a hand in their only two goals. Did not play as a striker but in the wing and as Attacking Midfielder. Rooney scored against Uruguay, a draw that should have put them at an advantage to qualify with a weak team left to play in the final group match. As England pressed Gerald gifted Suarez a free back pass to score one vs one against Hart. See yiur lies? 2012 and 2010 England were poor. If not for Rooney, England wouldn't qualify for world cup 2010 and 2014. Also Euro 2012. His goals and Assists ensured the qualifications. The only qualifier Rooney was injured, England couldn't qualify. Without Rooney, England couldn't get a common draw against Croatia in Wembley to qualify for Euro 2008 . 1 Like |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by SIRcumalot: 8:17pm On Sep 10, 2015 |
@Coogar. As ronaldo playing wide ever stopped him from scoring for Madrid ? I'll say it is the other way around, england has this brief affair with strikers like crouch,caroll,sturridge even danny welbeck and now harry kane it is rooney that is always left to fill their spot whenever things don't work out. He sacrificed his own numbers for club and country. Even ferguson, admits that he is too blame for all the shuffling around. You really don't have to like a player to give respect when it is due. |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by SIRcumalot: 8:23pm On Sep 10, 2015 |
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-3229396/David-Gea-s-agent-Jorge-Mendes-arrives-Carrington-Manchester-United-talks.html De Gea should sign a new contract very soon. Madrid never really wanted this guy. |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by raumdeuter: 8:44pm On Sep 10, 2015 |
Dadehmola: If Wolfsburg, Dortmund etc can spend 200m they would consider themselves title contenders. But your useless team can actually spend 200m and the manager still tells everyone they are not title contenders They should tear the application form to be called a league |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Dadehmola: 8:54pm On Sep 10, 2015 |
raumdeuter: In order words, they would continue to bow to bayern till they get that kinda money to spend?? I never knew the condition of your league is that pathetic!! ![]() Pray tell - How can they have 200m when bayern would either pay peanuts for their best players or instruct their best players to wind up their contracts & get them free of charge?? raumdeuter: Your league isn't better than the ABSA premiership. 8 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by raumdeuter: 8:57pm On Sep 10, 2015 |
Dadehmola: Your team gets the money yet they cant compete for the league. That means its either your team is very useless, the league is very useless or the team and league are a combination of useless |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by UniqueGem(m): 9:00pm On Sep 10, 2015 |
raumdeuter:Get your acts together man. Spending £200M and not being guaranteed the league shows how competitive the league is, Unlike the Bundesliga, the EPL is no teams Birth right. Na who even dash Dortmund and Wolfsburg £200M to spend on transfers? Man utd can shake the transfer market in a way that other clubs (including Bayern) will stand in awe. 5 Likes |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Slyder(m): 9:04pm On Sep 10, 2015 |
UniqueGem:Nicely put. You sir, is one of the few people impressing me on this thread. |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by raumdeuter: 9:07pm On Sep 10, 2015 |
UniqueGem: You spent 200M No other team in the league has spent that amount and you have given up on the league before games in September That shows the team is mega useless. Any team who spends 200M and gave up at after 4 weeks is super useless even Babanawa FC wont do that |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by UniqueGem(m): 9:34pm On Sep 10, 2015 |
raumdeuter:I won't waste much time trying to make you see things from the right perspective, i'll just give you some few reference to delibrate on, In The Laws Of Power, *Law 3 : Conceal Your Intentions, *Law 9 : Win Through Your Actions, Never Through Arguements, *Law 12 : Use Selective Honesty And Generosity To Disarm Your Victim. *Law 17: Keep Others In Suspended Terror; Cultivate An Air Of Unpredictability. *Law 21: Play A Sucker To Catch A Sucker-Seem Dumber Than Your Mark, (i personally love this one, you should too) *Law 32: Play To Peoples Fantasies. Incase you are wondering why all these laws, they can all be traced down to what LVG is doing, i might be wrong tho- but i can bet my Lunch on it. If you need help in tangling each law with LVGs comment, i can help you on your request. BTW, i love the way you ignored the part where i said Dortmund, wolfsburg and Bayern are in the wilderness when it comes to what Man utd can do in the transfer market. Shows you still have respect. 5 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by joeace2020(m): 9:37pm On Sep 10, 2015 |
UniqueGem: raumdeuter: According to Bayern Munich president http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-3165248/Bayern-Munich-president-Karl-Heinz-Rummenigge-claims-global-appeal-Premier-League-overtaking-Bundesliga.html Stop trying to defend a dead and forgotten league.... schweinsteiger is just the first of the mass exodus of big names from that league once the tv deal kicks in next year. Keep yarning smoke |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Mystic1(m): 9:38pm On Sep 10, 2015 |
UniqueGem:Kill him!! Kill him!! Kill him!! Epa!! Epa!! Epa!! |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nihilist: 9:38pm On Sep 10, 2015 |
raumdeuter: Relativity Oga. 200m is nothing at that level of football. City already had a better squad than Manyoo...then they went to splash another 145m this summer. Barca already have Messi, Iniesta etc but they splashed almost the full Manyoo expenditure on just Suarez and Neymar. They still went and signed Turan and all the other names I can't remember...to the point where Pogba is on waiting list. And then you're complaining when somebody who started with Young, Valencia and Cleverly States that even after spending 200m he can't compete. 35m Otamendi can't even make the bench at City...that's how bad they are. Even me gaan will be happy with 2nd place for my team this season...and we're the reigning champions 3 Likes |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by raumdeuter: 9:39pm On Sep 10, 2015 |
UniqueGem:^^ Some clubs like Bayern are playing to win trophies not to win transfer market. You can keep the transfer market trophies with Medals like Di Maria, FalCao, Martial, Shaw, Failaini etc You won the transfer market last season and ended trophiless. This season seems to be going the same way too. Bayern spent just 60m Euros this window I am sure if both face this season Bayern would be odds on to win convincingly |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by adebayo201: 9:40pm On Sep 10, 2015 |
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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by raumdeuter: 9:43pm On Sep 10, 2015 |
joeace2020: Man Utd has been richer than Bayern before you started watching football Yet nothing has changed. Currently Bayern is a more succesful club, this year they have a higher chances of winning the CL than Man Utd They have in their squad winners at International level Things man utd can only dream of Bayern sold you a Schweinsteiger who is old and struggling with injury. Ask yourself why didnt they sell you Muller? Bayern played you maga like they did in Owen Hargreaves case. They dumped Schweinsteigers 10m a yr salary on you and got a younger and better Arturo Vidal Scams dont get higher than that Its like selling your friend your iphone 4s and buying the iphone 6s |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by UniqueGem(m): 9:48pm On Sep 10, 2015 |
raumdeuter:I like you for you always have straws close by to clutch on to. |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nihilist: 9:48pm On Sep 10, 2015 |
raumdeuter: Bayern don't need to spend on their squad because they are already guaranteed domestic trophies by virtue of competing against severely weakend opposition They don't really care about Europe cos you know you're not better than many of the elite competition in the UCL. That's why you only won UCL once in the last 10 years...same as Porto, Inter, Chelsea, Manyoo, Liverpool and Madrid. 1 Like |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by raumdeuter: 9:50pm On Sep 10, 2015 |
Nihilist: Its sensible spending that keeps some teams ahead like Bayern Man Utd in the past 3 seasons bought/loaned Mata, Falcao, DiMaria, Shaw, Blind, Herera, Martial, Darmian, Fellaini etc spending over 200M yet they are not considered a CL contender, Thats senseless spending. The type of spending where you buy Di maria and sell him for 20m less 12months later, or buy Fellaini for 20M more than you could have bought him for 3weeks earlier Even Martial was rated 18M 5 weeks before man Utd bought him for 40M. That is senseless spending. Now Van gaal is telling fans that he bought him for the next coach ![]() Bayern would spend that money and be guaranteed of a CL semi. Man Utd would spend time 4 and still not compete |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by raumdeuter: 9:52pm On Sep 10, 2015 |
UniqueGem: Straws is when a fan thinks the transfer market is where people win and not real trophies While some are celebrating trophies, You are celebrating winning transfer market This is the stuff Osuofia became popular for. Creative sit-down comedy ![]() ![]() ![]() Like some people are getting first position, you are celebrating having the finest handwriting. ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nihilist: 9:54pm On Sep 10, 2015 |
raumdeuter: Bayern is only ahead in their league where 60 million euros is enough to improve their squad and keep up the advantage the hungry anaemic opposition. 1 UCL trophy in 10 years is not justification for your preaching on how to spend money. Afterall, the only final you won was against the same German opposition you're used to beating.... 2 Likes |
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