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Re: Biafra Will Be Totally Different From Nigeria. Here's How! by pazienza(m): 8:28am On Sep 11, 2015 |
denisfidha: Biafrans are not idle. We are working. Currently the Biafran region( SE and parts of SS) has the best human development indices figures in Nigeria, Educationally we are also ahead. https://www.nairaland.com/237534/look-going-school-nigeria-statisticshttp://www.nairaland.com/2263635/south-east-south-west-south-south-lead-attainment But we recognize the fact that we are punching below our weight, we can do better once we free ourselves from the Arewa-odua burden that draws us back. 11 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Biafra Will Be Totally Different From Nigeria. Here's How! by cocoduck: 8:39am On Sep 11, 2015 |
Don't forget the fact that the owners of the oil and gas tht is the indigenes of the oil producing areas are the ones who own the oil, not the federal government, so they decide what happens to their own oil and gas, if they exploit it, they must pay some money to the Fed's as a token or tax that will be used to develop other sectors of the economy, if they decide to let it lie fallow, that one is their own business, nobody should force the other person to do what he or she does not want. You can lobby and dialogue but not force anyone. 9 Likes |
Re: Biafra Will Be Totally Different From Nigeria. Here's How! by PenSniper: 8:43am On Sep 11, 2015 |
[quote author=VickJames post=37892862] I know they have the intellectual power to do things but they have become lazy over time. They have started becoming too dependent on the state and that's not good for a people who will want future development. The yoruba people have a lot of intelligent people amongst them, so if they can sit down and see the importance of the cocoa, bitumen, gold and access to the sea. They can actually grow. But the problem is, they've grown weak and they just want sit down and do nothing about their freedom. No doubt, no ethnic group will suffer when secession comes. I foresee the yorubas doing well on their own rather than this unholy union. They should start seeking independence, it will help their people more so that they can fully develop the potential of their land Nigerians don't have the technical know-how to hold a population of 170million. The number of people that will continue to suffer will continue to increase. We keep lying to ourselves that we're blessed with natural resources. The natural resources deposits cannot develop a people of 170million. So, its better they find solution to their future now.[/quote Very sensible. But let me add that the seeming tardiness of the Yoruba is due to the nigerian system which kills the spirit of patriotism plus the eroding of competition occasioned by the abrogation of regionalism. 6 Likes |
Re: Biafra Will Be Totally Different From Nigeria. Here's How! by PenSniper: 8:50am On Sep 11, 2015 |
pazienza: My bro, there you get it very wrong. Mainstream yoruba has nothing against the biafra project, forget the comical jesters and jestings on nairaland. Please remove that perception from your system. Naturally, the yoruba wants to be left alone and hates to be provoked. In inner caucuses, we do discuss biafra and pray for its peaceful resolution. 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Biafra Will Be Totally Different From Nigeria. Here's How! by missKiffy(f): 9:11am On Sep 11, 2015 |
Easier said than done, then why come to a Nigerian forum to write this poo, go and create urs and start posting ur trash |
Re: Biafra Will Be Totally Different From Nigeria. Here's How! by MightySparrow: 9:17am On Sep 11, 2015 |
![]() carnegiefan: ![]() carnegiefan: I was in the church last Sunday when our pastor preached a Message titled, Another Man, Another Life. The summary of the message is: To get the best out of God promises, one has to be a different person from what he used to be and assume a new self, appreciating new values, doing things worthy of God to release blessings' The OP's blueprint is his own idea, good though, but how many would. Be Biafra citizens are ready for this? What values have the Biafra people now appreciate that make them have problem in the now 'zoo' call Nigeria. I read animal farm in high school. I hope your Biafra will not be the zoo while the remaining Nigeria will not be the habitation of normal human beings with its imperfections. 2 Likes |
Re: Biafra Will Be Totally Different From Nigeria. Here's How! by VickJames(m): 9:44am On Sep 11, 2015 |
[quote author=PenSniper post=37894224][/quote] To be frank with you, I don't hate yorubas. You can never see me insult them. But I want them to start fighting to be independent. The country can't stand again. Many people feel I hate Buhari but the economy is crumbling and will continue to crumble. Why? We can't determine the oil price and the foreign market. We're like a puppet in the world market. I am seriously saying this, the north is enjoying from anything that's happening. You ask me how? The number of graduates in their part is really small. Give them okada and they'll be thankful. But we try to educate our children to go to school and get something doing. When we get educated we're in one way indebted to the outcome of the international market. So, when it doesn't favour us, we remain unemployed and any attempt at business will fail. Yorubas have the resources and I pray someone should stand up and fight. I read the other day that dangote and his brothers wants to invest in your gold mines. Another money that your brother should enjoy will still go up north and your brother cannot invest in the gold in sokoto. Please, I am not divisive, I am only saying we should enjoy what we have to help our own brothers. If you like, give others from good will. 12 Likes |
Re: Biafra Will Be Totally Different From Nigeria. Here's How! by VickJames(m): 9:46am On Sep 11, 2015 |
missKiffy: Stop hating missy, we're just discussing. 12 Likes |
Re: Biafra Will Be Totally Different From Nigeria. Here's How! by EasternLionn: 9:47am On Sep 11, 2015 |
MightySparrow: Either way, we just want out. 11 Likes |
Re: Biafra Will Be Totally Different From Nigeria. Here's How! by BiafranAvatar(m): 9:50am On Sep 11, 2015 |
missKiffy: I wonder the level of education and literacy at your possession and reach, stop portraying and parading your idiocy,gullibility and stupidity on a public forum over a cause not yours!!! Do you stop using it items from Britain cus they once enslaved your ancestors ![]() Just Say The Name "BiafranAvatar" 11 Likes |
Re: Biafra Will Be Totally Different From Nigeria. Here's How! by ibadantiti(f): 10:57am On Sep 11, 2015 |
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Re: Biafra Will Be Totally Different From Nigeria. Here's How! by juman(m): 11:39am On Sep 11, 2015 |
Yiibos never think of forming their own country except talking of biafra that include south south people. 1 Like |
Re: Biafra Will Be Totally Different From Nigeria. Here's How! by PenSniper: 11:44am On Sep 11, 2015 |
VickJames: I feel really moved by your treatise. But i must say you are a drop in a tea-cup. This is the sort of thing that should be happening between us, the ibo and yoruba, exchanging ideas, advising one another and planning together from which we both stand to benefit a lot. Let us agree that our forefathers sowed the seed of discord amongst us in their time, but must we propergate such attitude in this century ? Can we sustain such feelings without leading to needless conflagration ? I witnessed the war as a youth. Any sane yoruba will feel incensed by ibos' vilification of his tribe over the war rather than being grateful to us for the following reasons - 1. I lived at Fadeyi, along Ikorodu road at the time. The northern soldiers, who we refered to jokingly as " godogodo", prowled around picking up ibos while our people were shielding and hiding those they could from arrest. Many of such ibos remained in our midst, fed by our people throughout the war. I was a living witness. 2. No ibo was recorded to have been harrassed or molested in the entire SW. Our sympathy recided with the ibos over what happened in the north. It was an issue freely discussed by our people. 3. Awolowo risked his life against all the conceivable odds to visit Ojukwu to advise him against the mission in order to prevent what followed. Don't forget he must've been privy to some military and diplomatic data at the federal end before this trip. It is not impossible that their discussions were recorded by Ojukwu's aids. But instead of spreading innuendos about Awo and the yoruba, why didn't Chinua Achebe or any of the inner circle publish this record to let the world know what really transpired if not for mischief. 4. It was only yoruba people, in the persons of late Tai Solarin and Wole Soyinka who risked their lives to supply food aids and other items to our ibo brethren in the war. Be reminded that our people and leaders were fully aware of these missions but did not discourage them. The actions of the duo was a carry-forward of the feelings of sympathy of our people for the ibo, hence they weren't dissuaded. 5. Inspite of all the above, the ibo decided to plant the first deadly bomb at a yoruba cinema in a yoruba residential area at Ebute Meta with no other mission intended than to kill yorubas. 6. The ibos decided to invade our land without involving our leaders knowing full well the risk factor for our people. 7. We can safely assume that we and the ibos are not related but after the war, it is on record that every surviving ibo person who left property behind in the entire SW had their property handed back to them on their return. There were even cases of some that had tenants in their property who had all the areas of rentage paid to them to start a new life. Whereas, the issue of abandoned property came up in PH, a city populated by the close cousins of the ibo. So if an average yoruba gets pissed off by the ibo at the turn of events can any sane person blame them ? Nay what did the yoruba need to do to be their brothers' keeper that they failed to do ? Victor Banjo was executed along with ibo officers and died for the biafra cause. Throughout the war, i resided at 4, Ikorodu road, Fadeyi, so i was a living witness and an avid reader of Daily Times, etc. As for the yoruba planning for self-determination, be rest assured that we are not sitting idle but don't believe in raising dust until its necessary. From the statenents of our leaders, you would've noticed that they always harp on a return to full regionalism or else. Of all the tribes south of the Niger it is the yoruba that has suffered more setback and carried the brunt if unitary system of government. We are fully convinced that Nigeria is an unsustainable experiment that can't work. Adios. 12 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Biafra Will Be Totally Different From Nigeria. Here's How! by EasternLionn: 11:50am On Sep 11, 2015 |
Any person wey no like Biafra must dieeeee Diieeeeee Dieeeeeee. |
Re: Biafra Will Be Totally Different From Nigeria. Here's How! by PenSniper: 11:52am On Sep 11, 2015 |
pazienza: Hello, would you be good enough to stop joining Oodua to whatever you believe is/are holding you down because we are not involved in such. From the 1st to the 3rd republics, the Ibos, led by Zik, aligned with the north decidedly against the SW, but our leaders never once infered what you are wrongly insinuating here. There are ibo leaders in the APC as well. 3 Likes |
Re: Biafra Will Be Totally Different From Nigeria. Here's How! by carnegiefan: 2:15pm On Sep 11, 2015 |
Ok we are back to answer some questions! ![]() |
Re: Biafra Will Be Totally Different From Nigeria. Here's How! by carnegiefan: 2:35pm On Sep 11, 2015 |
oilyngbati: Thanks bro. I will address the bolded words. On the boundaries, this is a very fluid one as we make a "take it or leave it" offers to prospective peoples. We really don't want Islam in Biafra because the religion has proven to be more liability than assets to nations with sizable Muslim populations particularly in Africa. Biafra's freedom foundation shall start with the formation. No group will be cajoled; in fact groups will work very hard to join Biafra, like the EU. ![]() So Edo is off. On the need to have armed police, well, I have experienced first hand life in a totally armless country and in an armed one, believe me the difference is very clear in terms of peace, tranquility and security. In a country where everyone has access to jobs (and are in fact mandated to work by law) the need for violence diminishes drastically. As for terrorists that may want to infilterate Biafra, they will face the Biafran intelligence agencies, some of which would be among the best in the world. Believe me those terrorists won't be able to make it past Biafran borders, and even if they do, they will be arrested before they do anything. Unarmed populace and police is the bedrock of a peaceful society, one friendly to the innovative mind. Finally, the reason I stated a standing force of 50,000 is becuse those will be HIGHLY TRAINED and HIGHLY MOBILE permanent force. They can even defeat a 300,000 man invasion force because they will be armed with the most sophisticated weapons and be populated by very intelligent men and women. They shall hold the forte until the citizen force of MILLIONS join the fight. ![]() That is the reason for the compulsory military service. 5 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Biafra Will Be Totally Different From Nigeria. Here's How! by Change2015(m): 2:42pm On Sep 11, 2015 |
This is a personal fantasy. Try marketing your ideas to fellow peddlers of the Biafra dream and then you will realise that in the struggle for power and influence, you are just a beginner. The major active biafra activist I know, is still reeling because his hope was that Jonathan would win the election and so ruin the country that we would all be glad to separate. Now there is a new reality. 1 Like |
Re: Biafra Will Be Totally Different From Nigeria. Here's How! by Curlieweed: 2:48pm On Sep 11, 2015 |
yang: Great insight. The right to bear arms should be an important component of a documented Biafran Bill of Rights and Freedoms. It is not coincidental that at the beginning of the British occupation of our motherland, the colonial invaders had a ritual of seizing and destroying every available firearm in every community they "pacified". The Nigerian zombie empire has continued this practice of denying the citizenry the god given right to defend themselves. This is notwithstanding the fact the current police force is ill-trained, ill equipped and unmotivated to secure the populace in anyway . You may hear spurious reasons for continuing this odious practice, ranging from public safety to security. The real reason is that the state doesn't want an armed populace because such citizens will challenge the glaringly basic illegitimacy of the this colonial prison camp. The armed forces and the police were designed by the British as forces of occupation to cow the population rather than as agents for the security of the masses. Successive Nigerian neocolonialists have kept this structure in place to ensure the exploitation of the indigenous peoples of this land. In a free society, the leadership should be afraid of the people and not the other way round. That is why an armed population is the best guarantee for liberty. 9 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Biafra Will Be Totally Different From Nigeria. Here's How! by MrRobot: 2:54pm On Sep 11, 2015 |
Biafrans are indeed blessed. Can't wait 4 Likes |
Re: Biafra Will Be Totally Different From Nigeria. Here's How! by adconline(m): 2:54pm On Sep 11, 2015 |
Crass ignorance!! One question follower of Mr Kanu have refused to answer is $500bn.. Where do u get this money to building a new country ![]() 1 Like |
Re: Biafra Will Be Totally Different From Nigeria. Here's How! by carnegiefan: 2:55pm On Sep 11, 2015 |
denisfidha: This question is common, but often originates from a very faulty logical premise. The preamble to this post clearly identified the "Nigerian factor" as the key reasons why Biafra must leave. Imagine a rational human being going by the title of Chief Alhaji Dr, Prof, Arc, Engr so so and so. ![]() But to the main substantive issue, right now the only viable international airports in Nigeria are not in Biafraland, and there is a reason for that -to force unity, to force us to be Nigerians at the cost of our lives and future. We need viable international airports in Biafra land but we know it will NEVER happen, That alone defeats any effort toward achieving anything different from what is obtainable in the rest of the country. It helps some people to say "all Nigerians are the same". After secession and removal of Nigerian politicians, we shall do a 180 degree turn towards our truly chosen path to greatness. 11 Likes |
Re: Biafra Will Be Totally Different From Nigeria. Here's How! by basilo101: 3:02pm On Sep 11, 2015 |
juman:there will be a revolution that will flush dem out 7 Likes |
Re: Biafra Will Be Totally Different From Nigeria. Here's How! by carnegiefan: 3:09pm On Sep 11, 2015 |
VickJames: @Bolded: Pure genius. Nwanne this your bolded idea is nothing short of SUPERB. We have more land than we need. Anambra state alone is bigger than Lagos, yet Lagos accommodates about 20 million people and lagos is even sprawled, hardly any highrises. Our planners will make sure that we are not crammed up in match box homes, because we don't need to. We have enough land for everything we need, 5 Likes |
Re: Biafra Will Be Totally Different From Nigeria. Here's How! by carnegiefan: 3:14pm On Sep 11, 2015 |
pazienza: Thanks bro. Let us continue spreading the gospel of truth and of peace and security for our children's future! 9 Likes |
Re: Biafra Will Be Totally Different From Nigeria. Here's How! by pazienza(m): 3:20pm On Sep 11, 2015 |
Change2015: The reality is that Biafrans don't want to share a country with the Arewa-odua people. This has been the reality since 1966 till date. It's a sign of gross ignorance of history to insinuate that the Biafrans demand for independent existence outside the Nigerian state is tied to GEJ fate in Nigeria. MASSOB had been active many years before GEJ emergence, IPOB and radio Biafra has been there before GEJ loss. In the end, what matters is that Biafra must come. 12 Likes |
Re: Biafra Will Be Totally Different From Nigeria. Here's How! by carnegiefan: 3:23pm On Sep 11, 2015 |
MightySparrow: @Bolded: Yes these are my thoughts. I simply articulated what Biafra should be that I can live with. Most importantly I demonstrated that these can never happen for us in Nigeria due to many issues. Imagine a nation of 98% literacy rate being ruled by another of 5% literacy rate. That is unacceptable bro. Nigeria is systematically degrading and destroying the Biafran mindset and culture. As late as about 20-30 years ago, children could walk around freely in Biafra land, moving from compound to neighors compound to play, hang out, even eat, without any fears. Today parents are holed up in their homes with their children. Everyone is afraid of his neighbor! I will address this part of the issue more later when I have time. 6 Likes |
Re: Biafra Will Be Totally Different From Nigeria. Here's How! by VickJames(m): 3:25pm On Sep 11, 2015 |
PenSniper: I understand that there were anomalies in the war that cannot be taken back and from what my elder brother told me, he said they didn't want to attack the yorubaland but the capital. The midwestern invasion was a result of distraction of the federal forces who had taken over of owerri. So, they thought the need to protect their region will make them reduce forces at owerri and try to take back the midwestern region. The bombing of ebute metta was a result of the fact that Lagos was the capital. I stayed in Ebute Metta, infact. I'm sorry if it affected you in anyway. Those were the consequence of war. I am not mincing words, I don't like the setting of this country. Its too parasitic. I'm not suffering but a well-read man will understand that the system is too parasitic. If we can go our separate ways and be good neighbours, then excellent. I will still love to come to lagos to do business while you can do business in Aba. Everyone will respect his/her hosts. If a people with a population as much as the other people cannot bring anything to the table. The people should be divided and let them find what they can do for themselves. I am still saying it, the economy will be going a down spiral until this country divides and everyone develop at his own pace. 1 Like |
Re: Biafra Will Be Totally Different From Nigeria. Here's How! by Change2015(m): 3:26pm On Sep 11, 2015 |
pazienza: I was talking about someone I know personally who expressed that opinion about GEJ to me. As for all this nonsense, you cannot even claim to have persuaded 20% of your own people so if you don't even have a sensible road map or argument (devoid of the usual vituperations) what else is there? The east right now shows little talent for national politics and is also suffering the endemic poor governance afflicting most of Nigeria. But you assume that the character of the people there will undergo a miraculous transformation once the place is called biafra? Lol. Riiight! |
Re: Biafra Will Be Totally Different From Nigeria. Here's How! by pazienza(m): 3:31pm On Sep 11, 2015 |
Change2015: On the contrary, the East is the most developed part of Nigeria.https://www.nairaland.com/237534/look-going-school-nigeria-statisticshttp://www.nairaland.com/2263635/south-east-south-west-south-south-lead-attainment We achieved that despite the Arewa-odua conspiracy during and after the civil war. We know for sure we are better of without the Arewa-odua. 95% of Ndiigbo want secession from Nigeria, where they are divided are the ways to go about achieving secession, as many don't want war that the Nigerians will bring to Biafra should we secede. They want concrete evidence that enough weapons have been procured, with guarantee of continued inflow of weapons during the conflict and that the international politics has been sorted to avoid any scenario of world powers coming to Nigeria aid. These are things that killed Biafra 1.0 and not the incompetent weak Arewa-Odua soldiers. These are things that are holding most Igbos back. Remove/ nullify the Nigerian war threat by addressing those concerns and conduct a referendum in Igboland, I swear, you wouldn't get up to 5% pro Nigerian Igbos. 11 Likes |
Re: Biafra Will Be Totally Different From Nigeria. Here's How! by carnegiefan: 3:46pm On Sep 11, 2015 |
pazienza: Preach bro, preach! ![]() 9 Likes |
Re: Biafra Will Be Totally Different From Nigeria. Here's How! by VickJames(m): 3:46pm On Sep 11, 2015 |
carnegiefan: Many of our brothers will find themselves home when the time comes. This will be a big deal when you have too many people in the region. Lagos is filled with people squatting everyday because of accommodation. The problem of accommodation will have to be looked into. |
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