dmandy:


Its an image and God allows us to make images.

I can see you're running out of explanations.

Let's carry on.

Jeromejnr:


1. Was the Cherubim real according to what was in heaven?

2. Was it commanded by God for Moses to make that Cherubim?

3. Did they bow and pray to the Cherubim?

Answer that in regard to your Mary Statue.

1. Yes it was an image of a cherubim, and cherubims are in heaven.

2. Yes it was commanded by God.(the same God you said is against images) Get ur acts together. He is not a double standard God.

3. No, they did not bow down to worship it for it was not God. But David danced in the presence of the ark. even like someone who was drunk.

Now we have established that God allows images, Catholics dont bow down to worship or pray to any images.

Jeromejnr:


Can you show us the command in that scripture please.

Command? Read Heb 9:5 and show urself command.

Jeromejnr:

I can see you're running out of explanations.
Let's carry on.

What am I supposed to explain here, that ur selfie is golden.
Are u sleeping?

Jeromejnr:


Haha. Come up with something else.

Explain that scripture and don't run away from it.

We are waiting.

Which scripture? Tankah? I couldn't see tsnkah in my bible.

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1. Yes it was an image of a cherubim, and cherubims are in heaven.

Praise the Lord!

2. Yes it was commanded by God.(the same God you said is against images) Get ur acts together. He is not a double standard God.

God also said thou shalt not kill, but He told the Israelites to go to war. It's called righlty dividing the word of truth.

3. No, they did not bow down to worship it for it was not God. But David danced in the presence of the ark. even like someone who was drunk.

Thank God you know they didn't bow down to worship it. But to show how confused some of you are, I can bring up a quote by one of your fellows that said they bowed to it as he was trying to justify bowing to Mary.

Now we have established that God allows images, Catholics don't bow down to worship or pray to any images.

You can't tell men this, I have seen it myself. And you also said the statue reminds you of them when you go to pray so why change mouth.

dmandy:


What am I supposed to explain here, that ur selfie is golden.

Are u sleeping?

You have no point.

You've totally lost track of your own accusations.

dmandy:


Command? Read Heb 9:5 and show urself command.

I didn't see o. Maybe you could show me.

Jeromejnr:


Praise the Lord!



God also said thou shalt not kill, but He told the Israelites to go to war. It's called righlty dividing the word of truth.



Thank God you know they didn't bow down to worship it. But to show how confused some of you are, I can bring up a quote by one of your fellows that said they bowed to it as he was trying to justify bowing to Mary.



You can't tell men this, I have seen it myself. And you also said the statue reminds you of them when you go to pray so why change mouth.

I can tell you what I know. I don't know what you have seen. The Catholic church has NEVER taught anybody to worship any images.

Anybody doing that is in error.

Yes I told you the use of the images. We use them to remember the persons therein contained. How do you mean I changed my mouth? I didn't. I stand by what I said.

The same way your girlfriends pix reminds of her life and times. The same way the ark reminded the people of Isreal of God and the covenant they had with Him. That's what the images does.

God is not a double standard Godm

dmandy:


Which scripture? Tankah? I couldn't see tsnkah in my bible.

But you saw Hebrew right. The O.T was written in Hebrew and not Latin.

Jeromejnr:


But you saw Hebrew right. The O.T was written in Hebrew and not Latin.

By Tankah?

Jeromejnr:

I didn't see o. Maybe you could show me.

So y ask me about command?

Jeromejnr:


You have no point.

You've totally lost track of your own accusations.

Nope,

I haven't, image is image whether carved, painted, printed, moulded, snapped, built, on Mirror or Tv screen.

God permits images. His only command is 'dont woeship'

And Catholic Church teaches the same.

dmandy:


So y ask me about command?

Because you said God commanded in that scripture.

dmandy:


I can tell you what I know. I don't know what you have seen. The Catholic church has NEVER taught anybody to worship any images.

Anybody doing that is in error.

Yes I told you the use of the images. We use them to remember the persons therein contained. How do you mean I changed my mouth? I didn't. I stand by what I said.

The same way your girlfriends pix reminds of her life and times. The same way the ark reminded the people of Isreal of God and the covenant they had with Him. That's what the images does.

God is not a double standard Godm

Okay, lets get this straight.

Whenever you enter your (I have forgotten what they call that building now) to pray, do you bow down before entering or not?

Jeromejnr:

Because you said God commanded in that scripture.

You have eye issues... go back to the post. I said permitted.

dmandy:


You have eye issues... go back to the post. I said permitted.

Whats the difference Oga. Command/Permit as applied to that scripture.

You tried to state that God Commanded the sculpturing of the ark therefore as a result He permits graven images.

I sabi English Oga.

Jeromejnr:


Okay, lets get this straight.

Whenever you enter your (I have forgotten what they call that building now) to pray, do you bow down before entering or not?

Yes I do in recognition of the presence God and not to any image.

The building is called a tabernacle or sanctuary or chapel.

dmandy:


Yes I do in recognition of the presence God and not to any image.

The building is called a tabernacle or sanctuary or chapel.

Taaaah!

Commot here.

Jeromejnr:


Whats the difference Oga. Command/Permit as applied to that scripture.

You tried to state that God Commanded the sculpturing of the ark therefore as a result He permits graven images.

I sabi English Oga.

Hahahahahhahahaha

I am enjoying this.... so permit is the same thing as command.

Jeromejnr:

Taaaah!
Commot here.

and go where? I am not working tomorrow.

Jeromejnr:


Taaaah!

Commot here.

Permit me sorry command me to laugh a bit.

hahahhahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahhahagagaggaga

This una hatred for Christ and His mother no go kill una o.

dmandy:


Hahahahahhahahaha

I am enjoying this.... so permit is the same thing as command.

No change mouth.

But you said God Himself commanded the sculpturing. And you Showed me that scripture to show that because He commanded it, he permits Graven images isn't' it?

dmandy:


Permit me sorry command me to laugh a bit.

hahahhahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahhahagagaggaga

This una hatred for Christ and His mother no go kill una o.

You must be a rogue Catholic. This is from your Catholic site on bowing to Mary.

"Sometimes anti-Catholics cite Deuteronomy 5:9, where God said concerning idols, "You shall not bow down to them." Since many Catholics sometimes bow or kneel in front of statues of Jesus and the saints, anti-Catholics confuse the legitimate veneration of a sacred image with the sin of idolatry.

Though bowing can be used as a posture in worship, not all bowing is worship. In Japan, people show respect by bowing in greeting (the equivalent of the Western handshake). Similarly, a person can kneel before a king without worshipping him as a god. In the same way, a Catholic who may kneel in front of a statue while praying isn’t worshipping the statue or even praying to it, any more than the Protestant who kneels with a Bible in his hands when praying is worshipping the Bible or praying to it. "


So are you the only Catholic that doesn't bow to statues?

You can't run away from this o.

Jeromejnr:


No change mouth.

But you said God Himself commanded the sculpturing. And you Showed me that scripture to show that because He commanded it, he permits Graven images isn't' it?

Quote me where I said the above.

Jeromejnr:

You must be a rogue Catholic. This is from your Catholic site on bowing to Mary.
"Sometimes anti-Catholics cite Deuteronomy 5:9, where God said concerning idols, "You shall not bow down to them." Since many Catholics sometimes bow or kneel in front of statues of Jesus and the saints, anti-Catholics confuse the legitimate veneration of a sacred image with the sin of idolatry.
Though bowing can be used as a posture in worship, not all bowing is worship. In Japan, people show respect by bowing in greeting (the equivalent of the Western handshake). Similarly, a person can kneel before a king without worshipping him as a god. In the same way, a Catholic who may kneel in front of a statue while praying isn’t worshipping the statue or even praying to it, any more than the Protestant who kneels with a Bible in his hands when praying is worshipping the Bible or praying to it. "
So are you the only Catholic that doesn't bow to statues?
You can't run away from this o.

Did Joshua prostrate to the Ark or he prostrated before the Ark in Joshua 7?

Jeromejnr:


You must be a rogue Catholic. This is from your Catholic site on bowing to Mary.

"Sometimes anti-Catholics cite Deuteronomy 5:9, where God said concerning idols, "You shall not bow down to them." Since many Catholics sometimes bow or kneel in front of statues of Jesus and the saints, anti-Catholics confuse the legitimate veneration of a sacred image with the sin of idolatry.

Though bowing can be used as a posture in worship, not all bowing is worship. In Japan, people show respect by bowing in greeting (the equivalent of the Western handshake). Similarly, a person can kneel before a king without worshipping him as a god. In the same way, a Catholic who may kneel in front of a statue while praying isn’t worshipping the statue or even praying to it, any more than the Protestant who kneels with a Bible in his hands when praying is worshipping the Bible or praying to it. "


So are you the only Catholic that doesn't bow to statues?

You can't run away from this o.

lolz.... you quote a catholic site. Show me what makes it a catholic site.

Thats by the way .... Catholics don't bow to images anybody doing it is in error. The Catholic church teaches 'do not bow to worship or pray to any image'

italo:


Did Joshua prostrate to the Ark or he prostrated before the Ark in Joshua 7?

You just want to spoil Dmandy's runs.

He just finish telling me all he does is use the statue as reminder. You want to come and say you guys can postrate again.

Chai! You people will not kill someone with laff. First it was reminder, then honoring and now it's prostrating again.

dmandy:


lolz.... you quote a catholic site. Show me what makes it a catholic site.

Thats by the way .... Catholics don't bow to images anybody doing it is in error. The Catholic church teaches 'do not bow to worship or pray to any image'

Have you asked italo if he does.

Check his post above about prostration.

italo:


Did Joshua prostrate to the Ark or he prostrated before the Ark in Joshua 7?

He prostrated to the Lord before the ark not to the ark.

Jos 7:6

dmandy:


lolz.... you quote a catholic site. Show me what makes it a catholic site.

Thats by the way .... Catholics don't bow to images anybody doing it is in error. The Catholic church teaches 'do not bow to worship or pray to any image'

http://www.catholic.com/tracts/do-catholics-worship-statues

Na even official name sef.

Jeromejnr:


You just want to spoil Dmandy's runs.

He just finish telling me all he does is use the statue as reminder. You want to come and say you guys can postrate again.

Chai! You people will not kill someone with laff. First it was reminder, then honoring and now it's prostrating again.

You are funny


that he prostrated before the ark does not mean it was the ark. Get your facts right