dmandy:


He prostrated to the Lord before the ark not to the ark.

Jos 7:6

Oh thank God, so you know. It's a good thing you help bail out your guy in time.

So now is the Lord in/on those statues or even Mary? Because the tangible presence of the Lord was on the ark.

Jeromejnr:


You just want to spoil Dmandy's runs.

He just finish telling me all he does is use the statue as reminder. You want to come and say you guys can postrate again.

Chai! You people will not kill someone with laff. First it was reminder, then honoring and now it's prostrating again.

It was Joshua and all Israelites that prostrated before images.

Was it idolatry?

Jeromejnr:

Have you asked italo if he does.
Check his post above about prostration.

He won't because the church is aginst it.

dmandy:


You are funny


that he prostrated before the ark does not mean it was the ark. Get your facts right

dmandy:


He won't because the church is aginst it.

Look at his response above.

The guy dey mess you up big time.

Tell am make him keep quiet o.

Jeromejnr:


Oh thank God, so you know. It's a good thing you help bail out your guy in time.

So now is the Lord in/on those statues or even Mary? Because the tangible presence of the Lord was on the ark.

You don't seem to understand it do you. We don't bow to statues.

Is God everywhere?

italo:


It was Joshua and all Israelites that prostrated before images.

Was it idolatry?

Laff don tire me for here.

dmandy:


You don't seem to understand it do you. We don't bow to statues.

Is God everywhere?

Since He is everywhere, why don't we bow down to our cars or a nepa pole?

Jeromejnr:

Look at his response above.
The guy dey mess you up big time.
Tell am make him keep quiet o.

Your comorwhension though.
His response didn't contradict mine. They prostrated before the ark.

dmandy:


Your comorwhension though.

His response didn't contradict mine. They prostrated before the ark.

But do you prostrate?

Jeromejnr:



Since He is everywhere, why don't we bow down to our cars or a nepa pole?

That's the thing you are not understanding. You can't bow to a car or a Nepa pole. But u can bow before any if those, worship is truth and spirit.

you should know that.

Can you bow your head in ur car to pray?

Jeromejnr:

But do you prostrate?

To God, yes.

dmandy:


That's the thing you are not understanding. You can't bow to a car or a Nepa pole. But u can bow before any if those, worship is truth and spirit.

you should know that.

Can you bow your head in ur car to pray?

When I am bowing my head in my car to pray, I am not prostrating to my steering wheel na.

dmandy:


To God, yes.

In front of the statue?

Jeromejnr:




Laff don tire me for here.

Why? Jos 7:6 Then Joshua fell to the ground face down before the ark of the lord and remained there till evening.

is that idolatry?

Jeromejnr:

In front of the statue?

Anywhere

dmandy:


(1) No, I won't call it disown. My Lord cannot disown his own mother. He was the same person that thought to you to honour your own mother. He is not a double standard God.
(2) I would rather say that He is calling you to obedience to the word of God (just like His Mother did). Thinkk 'Let it be done to me according to your Word (Jesus), think 'Do whatever (Jesus) tells you.
(3) Don't let hatred of Catholics drag you to call Jesus double standard or curse her whom

hahaha

Stop trying to be clever by half.

So far, I've raised 2 valid infallibles instances where our Lord Jesus 'disowned' Mary as His mother:

The first is in Matthew 12:46-50 where our Lord categorically pointed at his disciples and whosoever will do His will as His mother and brethren.
So far, you havent been able to fault this point.

The second is in Luke 11:27-28 where our Lord deflected the blessing directed at Mary and redirected it to whosoever will hear the word of God and keep it.
The only fault you can find with this is the 'yea'.
Whereas, after the 'yea' comes 'rather'.
Does 'yea' and 'rather' go together?
It tells you that the 'yea' in that passage didnt mean 'yes'. It is similar to the 'yea' in Matthew 26:60, Matthew 21:16, Luke 24:22 etc
So you see, I am still on point.

And how can a disciple not be a follower?

dmandy:


Why? Jos 7:6 Then Joshua fell to the ground face down before the ark of the lord and remained there till evening.

is that idolatry?

Nope. I have explained why.

@dmandy, he's too dishonest to answer that question.

Jeromejnr:


When I am bowing my head in my car to pray, I am not prostrating to my steering wheel na.

Good.

Some unbeliever might think you are bowing to the steering. Thats what Catholics are suffering in your hands.

dmandy:


Anywhere

Statue Inclusive?

dmandy:


Good.

Some unbeliever might think you are bowing to the steering. Thats what Catholics are suffering in your hands.

And which unbeliever is that. Even many unbelievers bow their heads to pray.

Jeromejnr:


Nope. I have explained why.

Good.

even if your 'permit' and 'command' is the same. to and before are too different words altogether.

Jeromejnr:


Nope. I have explained why.

Then it's not idolatry if I bow to God before a statue that has been consecrated by the power of the Holy Spirit.

The Holy Spirit dwells on all our sacramentals...just like he dwelled on the Ark.

Jeromejnr:


And which unbeliever is that. Even many unbelievers bow their heads to pray.

To a car steering?

dmandy:


To a car steering?

Trying to dodge my question. Answer the statue question first. BTW, italo just said he does.

Jeromejnr:

Statue Inclusive?

Yes sir everywhere. Even before a car steering.

italo:


Then it's not idolatry if I bow to God before a statue that has been consecrated by the power of the Holy Spirit.

The Holy Spirit dwells on all our sacramentals...just like he dwelled on the Ark.

So how was it consecrated?

You mean your body is not His temple. So why not bow down to dmandy, since his body also is consecrated.

italo:

So the Holy Spirit was wrong in telling us to pray for one another?

I am confused! You mean the Holy Spirit expressly asked you to tell Mary to pray for you. Please where is that in the Bible?
Are you familiar with this hymn?
'O come to the Father through Jesus, the Son And Give Him the glory great things He hath done'
There is no place for Mary in all these things.

dmandy:


Yes sir everywhere. Even before a car steering.

So the steering is consecrated as italo says?

Jeromejnr:


Trying to dodge my question. Answer the statue question first. BTW, italo just said he does.

Dodge?

Lolx.

your problem is differentiating between before and to.

dmandy:


Yes sir everywhere. Even before a car steering.

But you said you don't bow. And it is wrong. You only use as a reminder.