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Re: Mary's Command For Catholics by Jeromejnr(m): 11:26pm On Sep 11, 2015 |
dmandy: Oh thank God, so you know. It's a good thing you help bail out your guy in time. So now is the Lord in/on those statues or even Mary? Because the tangible presence of the Lord was on the ark. |
Re: Mary's Command For Catholics by italo: 11:27pm On Sep 11, 2015 |
Jeromejnr: It was Joshua and all Israelites that prostrated before images. Was it idolatry? |
Re: Mary's Command For Catholics by Nobody: 11:27pm On Sep 11, 2015 |
Jeromejnr:He won't because the church is aginst it. |
Re: Mary's Command For Catholics by Jeromejnr(m): 11:28pm On Sep 11, 2015 |
dmandy: |
Re: Mary's Command For Catholics by Jeromejnr(m): 11:29pm On Sep 11, 2015 |
dmandy: Look at his response above. The guy dey mess you up big time. Tell am make him keep quiet o. |
Re: Mary's Command For Catholics by Nobody: 11:29pm On Sep 11, 2015 |
Jeromejnr: You don't seem to understand it do you. We don't bow to statues. Is God everywhere? |
Re: Mary's Command For Catholics by Jeromejnr(m): 11:30pm On Sep 11, 2015 |
italo: Laff don tire me for here. |
Re: Mary's Command For Catholics by Jeromejnr(m): 11:31pm On Sep 11, 2015 |
dmandy: Since He is everywhere, why don't we bow down to our cars or a nepa pole? 1 Like |
Re: Mary's Command For Catholics by Nobody: 11:32pm On Sep 11, 2015 |
Jeromejnr:Your comorwhension though. His response didn't contradict mine. They prostrated before the ark. |
Re: Mary's Command For Catholics by Jeromejnr(m): 11:33pm On Sep 11, 2015 |
dmandy: But do you prostrate? |
Re: Mary's Command For Catholics by Nobody: 11:34pm On Sep 11, 2015 |
Jeromejnr: That's the thing you are not understanding. You can't bow to a car or a Nepa pole. But u can bow before any if those, worship is truth and spirit. you should know that. Can you bow your head in ur car to pray? |
Re: Mary's Command For Catholics by Nobody: 11:35pm On Sep 11, 2015 |
Jeromejnr:To God, yes. |
Re: Mary's Command For Catholics by Jeromejnr(m): 11:36pm On Sep 11, 2015 |
dmandy: When I am bowing my head in my car to pray, I am not prostrating to my steering wheel na. |
Re: Mary's Command For Catholics by Jeromejnr(m): 11:36pm On Sep 11, 2015 |
dmandy: In front of the statue? |
Re: Mary's Command For Catholics by Nobody: 11:39pm On Sep 11, 2015 |
Jeromejnr: Why? Jos 7:6 Then Joshua fell to the ground face down before the ark of the lord and remained there till evening. is that idolatry? |
Re: Mary's Command For Catholics by Nobody: 11:40pm On Sep 11, 2015 |
Jeromejnr:Anywhere |
Re: Mary's Command For Catholics by VLadipo: 11:40pm On Sep 11, 2015 |
dmandy: hahaha Stop trying to be clever by half. So far, I've raised 2 valid infallibles instances where our Lord Jesus 'disowned' Mary as His mother: The first is in Matthew 12:46-50 where our Lord categorically pointed at his disciples and whosoever will do His will as His mother and brethren. So far, you havent been able to fault this point. The second is in Luke 11:27-28 where our Lord deflected the blessing directed at Mary and redirected it to whosoever will hear the word of God and keep it. The only fault you can find with this is the 'yea'. Whereas, after the 'yea' comes 'rather'. Does 'yea' and 'rather' go together? It tells you that the 'yea' in that passage didnt mean 'yes'. It is similar to the 'yea' in Matthew 26:60, Matthew 21:16, Luke 24:22 etc So you see, I am still on point. And how can a disciple not be a follower? |
Re: Mary's Command For Catholics by Jeromejnr(m): 11:41pm On Sep 11, 2015 |
dmandy: Nope. I have explained why. |
Re: Mary's Command For Catholics by italo: 11:41pm On Sep 11, 2015 |
@dmandy, he's too dishonest to answer that question. |
Re: Mary's Command For Catholics by Nobody: 11:41pm On Sep 11, 2015 |
Jeromejnr: Good. Some unbeliever might think you are bowing to the steering. Thats what Catholics are suffering in your hands. |
Re: Mary's Command For Catholics by Jeromejnr(m): 11:41pm On Sep 11, 2015 |
dmandy: Statue Inclusive? |
Re: Mary's Command For Catholics by Jeromejnr(m): 11:43pm On Sep 11, 2015 |
dmandy: And which unbeliever is that. Even many unbelievers bow their heads to pray. |
Re: Mary's Command For Catholics by Nobody: 11:43pm On Sep 11, 2015 |
Jeromejnr: Good. even if your 'permit' and 'command' is the same. to and before are too different words altogether. |
Re: Mary's Command For Catholics by italo: 11:43pm On Sep 11, 2015 |
Jeromejnr: Then it's not idolatry if I bow to God before a statue that has been consecrated by the power of the Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit dwells on all our sacramentals...just like he dwelled on the Ark. |
Re: Mary's Command For Catholics by Nobody: 11:44pm On Sep 11, 2015 |
Jeromejnr: To a car steering? |
Re: Mary's Command For Catholics by Jeromejnr(m): 11:45pm On Sep 11, 2015 |
dmandy: Trying to dodge my question. Answer the statue question first. BTW, italo just said he does. |
Re: Mary's Command For Catholics by Nobody: 11:45pm On Sep 11, 2015 |
Jeromejnr:Yes sir everywhere. Even before a car steering. |
Re: Mary's Command For Catholics by Jeromejnr(m): 11:47pm On Sep 11, 2015 |
italo: So how was it consecrated? You mean your body is not His temple. So why not bow down to dmandy, since his body also is consecrated. |
Re: Mary's Command For Catholics by VLadipo: 11:47pm On Sep 11, 2015 |
italo:I am confused! You mean the Holy Spirit expressly asked you to tell Mary to pray for you. Please where is that in the Bible? Are you familiar with this hymn? 'O come to the Father through Jesus, the Son And Give Him the glory great things He hath done' There is no place for Mary in all these things. |
Re: Mary's Command For Catholics by Jeromejnr(m): 11:47pm On Sep 11, 2015 |
dmandy: So the steering is consecrated as italo says? |
Re: Mary's Command For Catholics by Nobody: 11:47pm On Sep 11, 2015 |
Jeromejnr: Dodge? Lolx. your problem is differentiating between before and to. |
Re: Mary's Command For Catholics by Jeromejnr(m): 11:48pm On Sep 11, 2015 |
dmandy: But you said you don't bow. And it is wrong. You only use as a reminder. |
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