paulGrundy:
Have you ever been disturbed on a relaxed Saturday morning by unexpected strangers knocking on your front door? Out front are two well-dressed people, holding briefcases, who are offering free magazines and eager to talk to you about God’s Kingdom. They say they’re from the local Kingdom Hall and seem to know the bible well. In fact, they can quote scripture from memory and appear to have answers for all your questions. Did you ever wonder who these people are, where they come from and what they believe?
  

Who Are They? 

The religious group known as Jehovah's Witnesses originated in Pennsylvania in the 1870's as a small group of followers of Charles Taze Russell. Today they have branched out into more than 200 countries with over 6 million members zealously spreading their gospel. These faithful men and women, known for their refusal to vote, salute the flag, celebrate holidays and receive blood transfusions, are led by a large organization, headquartered in Brooklyn, New York, called the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society. Members of this religion freely spend hours per month - some as many as 90 hours or more - going door-to-door, handing out religious literature and conducting free in-home bible studies with prospective converts. As dedicated and sincere as they are, unfortunately, many of their teachings are sharply opposed to the teachings of biblical Christianity. Let’s quickly review several teachings of the Jehovah’s Witnesses by quoting Watchtower magazines and contrasting them with the Bible:
 

Doctrines 

Jesus Christ

The Watchtower says: “The foremost angel, both in power and authority, is the archangel, Jesus Christ, also called Michael.”[i]

The Bible says: Jesus is “....so much better than the angels....Let all God’s angels worship Him”.[ii]  

The Soul of Man

The Watchtower says: “The soul dies; it does not live on after death.”[iii]

Jesus says: “Do not be afraid of those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul.”[iv]  

Salvation

The Watchtower says: “....come to Jehovah’s organization for salvation....”[v]

Jesus says: “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.”[vi]  

Resurrection

The Watchtower says: “Jesus died and was resurrected by God as a spirit creature....”[vii]

Jesus says: “Destroy this temple and in three days I will raise it up....He was speaking of the temple of His body.”[viii]  

Works

The Watchtower says: “To get one’s name written in that Book of Life will depend upon one’s works.”[ix]

The Bible says: “For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith....it is the gift of God, not by works.”[x]  

SirWere:
*sighs* Another idiot on Nairaland

rottennaija:


What's your point on this?

Tonykings:


How sir?

paulGrundy:


The thread is self explanatory.

SirWere:
The Op obviously did not do any research, just copied a link and pasted it on NL

rottennaija:

What's your point on this?

horlaleykan:
Jesus is God

horlaleykan:
Jesus is God

SirWere:
The Op obviously did not do any research, just copied a link and pasted it on NL

horlaleykan:

its very easy 2 deal with dier kind...NY TEACHING DAT PROPAGATES D FOLLOWING IS FROM D PIT OF HELL
u don't nid 2 no d whole Bible 2 be able 2 decipher
1)denying dat Jesus Christ is God..
2)denying d existence of hell
3)denying d existence of miracle power of d holy Ghost

Jozzy4:

Research ? He didnt , just leave him in his darkness , for example he said JEHOVAH witnesses said soul die , but because he is a liar he didnt include Ezekiel 18:4 ! Which said soul die , cus that will forfeit his plan . But went ahead to quote that same verse that destroy his argument , Jesus Said : " do not fear those that kill the body but cannot kill the soul, but fear him who can DESTROY both soul and body in gehenna" matt 10:28 Imagine , how plainly the verse confirms that soul can be destroyed ! Its not immortal , it can be destroyed .

Let me be sarcastic here , in the ops bible the verse said " fear him who can destroy both soul and BODY in hell " my bros , pls where do body of a dead man go ? Grave or an imaginary hell . Coz the Op'S BIBLE said body they go hell o , am yet to see a dead body that didnt go to grave but actually disappeared into hell .

paulGrundy:

When the beggar Lazarus and the rich man died in Luke 16:19-31, where did they go to??
You'll observe that in v29 and 31, Jesus spoke of Moses and the prophets, implying that he was talking about a real life scenerio.
Note» Jesus was not speaking figuratively when he spoke about them.

Jozzy4:

Honestly, you have to contradict many scripture to support your heresy .

If taken real , it contradicts ecclesistes 9:5 that said the dead knows nothing

If taken real , you contradict psalm 37:25 that said the righteous dont beg for food , whereas the righteous Lazarus begs , he is a beggar . Lol psalm 37:25 contradict .
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The story itself is not real ,

1) if the dead actually go to the bossom of one man called Abraham , [b]pls how would Abel who died go to the bossom of Abraham that has not yet been born ?

[s]Dont tell me its symbolic of a place , then u render the whole as parable . [/s]

2) a ghost having TONGUE? Dig his grave&u would find his tongue

paulGrundy:


I don't think you've NOT taken time to properly compare scriptures, check out Luke 23:43;

" And Jesus said unto him, verily I say unto thee, Today shalt thou be with me in paradise"

^^ that was what he told the repentant thief on the cross. Apparently when people die, they almost immediately go to a heaven or hell, remember after death is judgement. The dead are conscious of nothing at all because the spirit have left the physical body which is sheol, hades, or the grave.

Point of correction I was not the one who said the story of the beggar lazarus and the richman it was Jesus, do you make him to be a liar??

Am very certain Abel would together with the righteous patraichs- Isaac, abraham and co judge the world.

Have you seen a ghost before?

Jozzy4:


funny guy
Am sure you know man and animals have the same spirit @ bold , what is that spirit ? And pls where does the spirit go when a person dies ?

Its a story , okay ! Not meant to be taken literally , by taking it literally you have made Jesus A Liar (psalm 37:25 )

Once again: did Abel die and go to the bossom of a man called Abraham ? mayb Abraham has been born at that time[/b]

Abraham was not born then, but its possible that Abel was instantly made a judge just like the patraichs and born again saints after him. 1corithians 6:2-4




[quote]Use ur thinkin faculty , a MAN's tongue is buried with him in his grave . That should tell you that the whole description is full of parable like camel passing through a needle .

paulGrundy:


The bible was not mistaken when it clearly differentiated between a body, soul and spirit. Hebrews 4:12

Jozzy4:


Lol , u don run to hebrews !

Nice , so kindly tell me :

1) what is body ?

2) what is a soul ? Can it die ?

3 ) what is the spirit in man ?

paulGrundy:


The bible was not mistaken when it clearly differentiated between a body, soul and spirit. Hebrews 4:12

Apostle Paul is a rightoes man, and he has been in lack before what do you think?
Philippians 4:12New International Version (NIV)
12 I know what it is to be in need, and I know what it is to have plenty. I have learned the secret of being content in any and every situation, whether well fed or hungry, whether living in plenty or in want.

Hence that alone is not enough to invalidite the reality of lazarus and the rich mans story. Besides Abraham and the prophets are real life characters mentioned in the story which you deliberatly ignored.

Jozzy4:


So, Answer my questions!

what is body ?

What is a soul ? Can it die ?

What is d spirit in man?

The apostle is not a beggar

^ from the story, u mean d righteous go to the bosom of one man
Did Abel go to the bossom of Abraham thats not yet born ?

paulGrundy:


http://biblehub.com/greek/4983.htm
http://biblehub.com/greek/5590.htm
Yes the soul that sinneth shall die.
http://biblehub.com/greek/4151.htm

But he definitely was a rightoeus man who sometimes depended on charity.

Abrahams bossom is the title given by our lord Jesus to a bay or gulf in the spirit world that the righteous go to , so that we can get a clearer understanding of how the place looks like, I believe he delibrately used Abraham, because of the audience whom he was addressing- Jews.

http://biblehub.com/greek/2859.htm

Jozzy4:


Posting link as usual .

Meanwhile , you finally confess @bold that ' Soul die . So why attack witnesses for something you also confess ?




Heresy master, pls how does that make him a beggar ?





Lols , so Abraham Bossom is not a literal abraham bossom but represent a gulf in the spirit world ? You have render it a parable man . cheers .

Jozzy4:


Posting link as usual .

Meanwhile , you finally confess @bold that ' Soul die . So why attack witnesses for something you also confess ?

Heresy master, pls how does that make him a beggar ?





Lols , so Abraham Bossom is not a literal abraham bossom but represent a gulf in the spirit world ? You have render it a parable man . cheers .

horlaleykan:

dats all u guys got arguing skills... bt u see d kingdom of God is not in words bt Power... u can't make ny blind see..heal infirmities ..u pple lack d power of God
BTW ...like som1 once sed if church growth was by envagelism den JW ought 2 b d largest 'church'...so if u lyk stay dere and b deceiving urself ..I no u are gonna say miracles are gimmicks .bt y not drop by @where I worship and find out for urself

horlaleykan:

dats all u guys got arguing skills... bt u see d kingdom of God is not in words bt Power... u can't make ny blind see..heal infirmities ..u pple lack d power of God
BTW ...like som1 once sed if church growth was by envagelism den JW ought 2 b d largest 'church'...so if u lyk stay dere and b deceiving urself ..I no u are gonna say miracles are gimmicks .bt y not drop by @where I worship and find out for urself

paulGrundy:


Please kindly point out a post of mine where I “attacked witnesses“ on the above.

PaulGrundy
The Watchtower says: " the soul dies ; it does not live on after death ."

PaulGrundy
Yes the soul that sinneth shall die

[s]
As much as you try so hard to render it a parable, it is not .
Abrahams bossom is a metaphor. Jesus on several occasions used metaphors to describe the kingdom of heaven, but JW's will agree with me that its a real place not a figurative utopian paradise. I can see that the watchtower now chooses at will the scripture she wants to take literally or figuratively. Why don't you just tear off Luke 16:19-31 from your bible, maybe that would be better off for you. [/s]

Jozzy4:


Probably you were sleeping when you type this in other to mock the witnesses

And yet you finally agree that soul dies too



Just imagine !




You admit its not a literal bossom of Abraham abi ?