mmsen:


Religion is about power and control.

It is not about taking care of your fellow man.

True. What are witnessing is a perversion of Islam, christianity and major religions of the world. Once you have hierarchy and bureaucracy in religion then these things are bound to happen. Can't really fault the saudis in a way cos its like that in all religions and sects.

seagulsntrawler:

True. What are witnessing is a perversion of Islam , christianity and major religions of the world. Once you have hierarchy and bureaucracy in religion then these things are bound to happen. Can't really fault the saudis in a way cos its like that in all religions and sects.

There is nothing like perversion of islam cause islam as started by it's demon possessed 'prophet' was perverted ab initio

Annunaki:


There is nothing like perversion of islam cause islam as started by it's demon possessed 'prophet' was perverted ab initio

I do not agree with you on that. Islam, at its very core is a peaceful religion. Some people are out to demonize it and to make money by doing that. I can filter off western propaganda from the real thing

seagulsntrawler:

I do not agree with you on that. Islam, at its very core is a peaceful religion. Some people are out to demonize it and to make money by doing that. I can filter off western propaganda from the real thing

Obviously you haven't read the quoran or any of the hadiths. Islam was violent in it's conception and it was spread and sustained with violence. Mohamed personal authorised and participated in over a hundred offensive military campaigns in his miserable life time. He was also a notorious caravan raider which makes him a highway armed robber.

seagulsntrawler:

I do not agree with you on that. Islam, at its very core is a peaceful religion. Some people are out to demonize it and to make money by doing that. I can filter off western propaganda from the real thing

I dont want to call you a liar but stop deceiving us infidels. Mohammed fought many wars and also encourage his followers to fight for allahh (read the entire quran chapter 9). You can read some specific verses such as quran 9:5, 29-30. Stop playing ignorant please.

true2god:
I dont want to call you a liar but stop deceiving us infidels. Mohammed fought many wars and also encourage his followers to fight for allahh (read the entire quran chapter 9). You can read some specific verses such as quran 9:5, 29-30. Stop playing ignorant please.

Firstly, I don't see you as an infidel.
Calling me liar doesn't change the truth. So fighting for Allah means killing fellow moslems the way ISIS, boko haram and alqaeda is doing?. You have to look at what he meant in context. He sent some of his followers to seek refuge in Ethiopia, which was then under the rule of a christian king and even asked them to protect Jews and christians under their watch.
If you can see beyond the rose tinted glasses you're putting on, you'd see that all religions are under attack both covertly and overtly.

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Obviously you haven't read the quoran or any of the hadiths. Islam was violent in it's conception and it was spread and sustained with violence. Mohamed personal authorised and participated in over a hundred offensive military campaigns in his miserable life time. He was also a notorious caravan raider which makes him a highway armed robber.[/quote
Most religions have a violent past and christianity and Islam are not an exception. When atheists attack christians by listing acts of violence in the bible, does that make it a religion of violence? I can't change what you think and feel about Islam or mohammed for that matter but you need to be objective about these things and look at everything in context.

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I assess the credibility of a religion by trhe antecedents of the founder and going mohamed's extremely pathetic record of violence, rape, paedophilia, armed robbery, deceit, lies, conceit, narcissism and hatred preaching I can only conclude he is a glaringly fake prophet. On the on hand the virtues of the founder of the christian faith are limitless. Yes there is violence in the bible and I will never justify it but you have to accept that christianity is based on the teachings of christ and not the old testament were you get your violent verses from.

Annunaki:


I assess the credibility of a religion by trhe antecedents of the founder and going mohamed's extremely pathetic record of violence, rape, paedophilia, armed robbery, deceit, lies, conceit, narcissism and hatred preaching I can only conclude he is a glaringly fake prophet. On the on hand the virtues of the founder of the christian faith are limitless. Yes there is violence in the bible and I will never justify it but you have to accept that christianity is based on the teachings of christ and not the old testament were you get your violent verses from.

You are entitled to your opinion. Over 1 billion moslems do not share that view. And when pastors want to milk their congregations they can easily turn to things stated in the old testament like " tithing" and "touch not my anointed"things. The LRA, a rebel group in Uganda kill,rape,and destroy whole communities in East Africa. The justification for their bellicose and belligerent acts is the bible. Is that a true representation of Christ?

seagulsntrawler:

You are entitled to your opinion. Over 1 billion moslems do not share that view. And when pastors want to milk their congregations they can easily turn to things stated in the old testament like " tithing" and "touch not my anointed"things. The LRA, a rebel group in Uganda kill,rape,and destroy whole communities in East Africa. The justification for their bellicose and belligerent acts is the bible. Is that a true representation of Christ?

The bolded bears testimony to the extremely low standards muslims have subjected themselves to by having such a despicable tyrant as their role model and "best of mankind" no wonder isis and boko haram feel justified after all they are practising the sunnah of mohammed.

Annunaki:


The bolded bears testimony to the extremely low standards muslims have subjected themselves to by having such a despicable tyrant as their role model and "best of mankind" no wonder isis and boko haram feel justified after all they are practising the sunnah of mohammed.

That's your opinion. It doesn't change the truth in anyway.

seagulsntrawler:

That's your opinion. It doesn't change the truth in anyway.

My opinion is the truth

Annunaki:

My opinion is the truth

Hmmmm. The truth indeed. Everyman to his opinion.

seagulsntrawler:

Hmmmm. The truth indeed. Everyman to his opinion.

Keep living in denial all I have said aRe in your quoran and hadiths.