ravensckar:
Boss! This one you're making reference to my statement so, I'll sue you for copy right infringement o!

Besides, someone should please help me ask STENON why she's folding her arms to observe. Isn't this about Education? Her field? Lolz!

kendraloops:



There's no need pasting any name so no one will fall victim as you said. to some, that 15k job is just ideal for them at the moment. everyone's got different expectations, even the 35-45k quoted by the applicant is chicken feed to some. so, that's how it is my bro.

Sunnypar:

Why paste the school name? Send him a pm to find out the school name.

Amgifted:
I can believe some people are here to talk about certificate. You claim you have Bsc whatever,you are nothing those that knows about education don't make noise at all. Talking about big schools it might surprise you that they employ NCE holders I know of someone who went for interview on the so called big school were Bsc, master and what have you came as well but to his surprise out of about 60 people he made it to the final stage. Please stop bragging about what you have because it's nothing if you can't defend it. All this Computerised graduates of these days making noise, that's if it's real. All na online.

For the degree holders . Don't think you have it all but think of ways to give in your best at all times. Stop jumping from one place to another every 3 months looking for fat salary.

ttaolin500:

I feel ur pains .
its well my sister

Evathyst:
Your own post is bereft of logic, hence, I'll just ignore your rantings. But I've got some simple questions for you though, if you would be sincere enough to answer them...

1- How many of your secondary school teachers are NCE holders?
2- How many big schools employ NCE holders as subject teachers? You could please mention names.
3- How many Govt Sch teachers self are NCE holders. I don't mean Pry school teachers o!


Your answers to the above questions would serve as a template upon which my argument with you will be based. Also, did you just talk about Sir Ahmadu Bello as being an NCE holder? So? What's the correlation?


And as for the name calling, I'm too big a lady to exchange words with a e-entity whose whole existence begins and ends online.... Try calling me names again, and I'll prove to you that you don't have the monopoly of name calling.


PS: I'm a Bsc(edu) graduate of O.A.U Ile-ife. So? Have you any other bragging rights? Tender it or you argue logically next time.

Evathyst:
And what's so special about NCE that one cannot place it side by side with SSCE?


Or is it not the NCE that they use Essential Chemistry, Essential biology textbooks, etc to teach them? Most NCE students I've met are bunch of University-wannabes... The case of NCE holders is analogous to Govt sch teachers that are professionally qualified to teach, but academically, many of them are not in tuned with modernity...


But Bsc holders, just show them the format of that 'yeye' lesson note, they will teach your students beyond your imagination because the stuff is there.


If you're talking of graduates, abeg, never ever mention NCE holders o jere.

ravensckar:
Miss Evathyst, let me disagree with you for the fourth time this year...


If you look at the way our educational system was initially structured, you would agree with me that an NCE graduate is more qualified a teacher than a Bsc holder.

NCE holders have been exposed to the rudiments and methodologies of teaching, while we Bsc holders haven't. Although, a good number of Bsc holders learnt from experience. Now, let me share a life-experience with you.

akanduteenah:


hahahaha............my bro, no be soo. Just that i have never taught SS 3 2nd and 3rd term

Evathyst:
*Lamentations from a frustrated buffoon*


Talk is cheap, if not you wouldn't dare say graduates can't defend their certificates. If there are graduates that can't, then, that number would be inconsequential compared to a whole lotta NCE 'waka abouts'.


Besides, you could tell us in what way you've impacted in the field of education with your 'golden' NCE. Or is it not the same you that couldn't pass POST-UTME before ending up in a college? Abegi!

Kazrem:

It's a shame that education does not make sense and it's very disappointing when one meets senselessness where you ought to meet sense. Just read what you wrote again. I am done with you. No matter what you say henceforth I will see it a stone thrown to a palm wine tree. Mtcheew.

Evathyst:
Now you're talking!


Now that I have you on the rope, lemme quickly finish you off while I await the next NCE vain-braggart. I've friends who are also members of this forum that teach in big schools like Caleb, Greenspring, Corona, Newhall at lekki. They didn't even study anything relating to education.




PS: They may not want to confirm my claims so as not to give full vent to this controversial issue. But trust me, big schools employ Bsc graduates so long as he is sound academically.

MrOlai:


@ Evathyst. What you have done here is not right! You can still make your point without badmouthing NCE. It's unfair! Honestly, it's unfair especially with the word bolded you used.

NCE, BSc, B.Ed, etc have their respective purposes for which they are established. In education settings, all these are supposed to complement one another and not for rivalry wars.

There are very sound NCE holders, B.Ed holders and BSc holders out there. So also, we have weak ones across all the levels.

I'm sure you have Lesson Notes too in your B.Ed programme. How would you feel if a BSc graduate consider him/herself superior and refers to your Lesson Notes as "YEYE"? We need to try and empathize with others before commenting.

As I said, it's not fair! You need to make an apology on this. We are all human beings. To err is human; to forgive is divine.

manjuninho:
Please I won't want us to start insulting ourselves just to drive home our points, everyone is entitled to his/her opinions and will also want everyone to know that if wishes were horse beggars would ride. Not everybody that went for NCE wishes not go to the university,to some it was financial constraint not because they are not brilliant so coming here to rubbish a certificate just because you are opportuned to attend a university doesn't make you more intelligent or brilliant than someone who wasn't opportuned.

manjuninho:


You really make me laugh because I now understand where you are coming from;
So u think everybody that went to college of education went there just because they couldn't pass post utme?
Let me use myself as a case study...I never failed post utme for once and I was even given admission to study law only to step down due to finance, I later tried unilag and I scored above the stipulated cut off mark only to be denied admission for whatsoever reason, I scored the highest mark in Uniosun post utme in 2011 though I was a student in the college of education then only for them to tell me that my name was not sent to jamb for whatsoever reason.
So u can now see that you been a university graduate does not make a super human u were just privilege nd opportuned as many who are intellectually sound more than you are not privilege aand that does not make them less human.

MrOlai:


10000000000000000000 likes! Kudos!

@manjuninho. You made a mistake with the word bolded. There is no word like opportuned. There is a word "opportune". It is an adjective and not a verb. So, you cannot make an adjective from a verb that does not exist. It is better to say "...just because you had the opportunity to attend university doesn't make you more intelligent or brilliant than someone who did not have the opportunity."

manjuninho:


You really make me laugh because I now understand where you are coming from;
So u think everybody that went to college of education went there just because they couldn't pass post utme?
Let me use myself as a case study...I never failed post utme for once and I was even given admission to study law only to step down due to finance, I later tried unilag and I scored above the stipulated cut off mark only to be denied admission for whatsoever reason, I scored the highest mark in Uniosun post utme in 2011 though I was a student in the college of education then only for them to tell me that my name was not sent to jamb for whatsoever reason.
So u can now see that you been a university graduate does not make a super human u were just privilege nd opportuned as many who are intellectually sound more than you are not privilege aand that does not make them less human.

nitane25:
I over agree wt ur 2nd paragraph

Evathyst:
Apology my foot! Try to read from previous pages so as to understand the crux of the matter. But to demand an apology from me is not only hypocritical but an height of partisanship.
Sir, you've been noticed. So, you can please swerve left. I'm here today to finish all those NCE holders who call themselves professional teachers.

ttaolin500:
guy which one b ur own now.must u always comment on my post

Evathyst:
Lolz! e pain am sha!


Rather than answer my simple questions, you choose to boycott it under the guise of being angry. You still dey learn work.


Could you please tell me the part of my statement that doesn't make sense to you? And I'll volunteer to translate into warri english which you were brought up with. Nonsense!


If not that we're on the internet, I'm sure your first instinct would have been to bully me as guys in that part of the world where you're from do. It's simple, people like you can't argue intellectually because you've got no stuff upstairs. Quote me again and I'll place an everlasting curse on you. Nitwit!

STENON:
Salam Alekum...

Evathyst:
*Lamentations from a frustrated buffoon*


Talk is cheap, if not you wouldn't dare say graduates can't defend their certificates. If there are graduates that can't, then, that number would be inconsequential compared to a whole lotta NCE 'waka abouts'.


Besides, you could tell us in what way you've impacted in the field of education with your 'golden' NCE. Or is it not the same you that couldn't pass POST-UTME before ending up in a college? Abegi!

Kazrem:

It's a shame that education does not make sense and it's very disappointing when one meets senselessness where you ought to meet sense. Just read what you wrote again. I am done with you. No matter what you say henceforth I will see it a stone thrown to a palm wine tree. Mtcheew.

nitane25:
LWKMD

MrOlai:


Your responses so far on this issue show how arrogant, foolish and shameless you are! To think that you are better than others simply because of your B.Ed. B.Ed from O.A.U. So?

I must tell you! You are a disgrace to teachers! You are a disgrace and abuse to prestigious O.A.U.!
Animal!

nitane25:
easy ahbeg

MrOlai:


Your responses so far on this issue show how arrogant, foolish and shameless you are! To think that you are better than others simply because of your B.Ed. B.Ed from O.A.U. So?

I must tell you! You are a disgrace to teachers! You are a disgrace and abuse to prestigious O.A.U.!
Animal!

Evathyst:
*Yinmu*


Here's another NCE sympathiser! Do you even understand the crux of the matter at all? Or you simply have a problem with comprehension! For you information, I didn't start the name-calling, your henchmen did. Scroll up and you'll see all the names they dished out at me.


Why should the one who stepped on a millipede cry blue murder even when the millipede has not raised it's voice in protest? For a sympathiser like you, inherently not gifted with a faculty of discernment. Why should I take your insults personally?


Just like the germans would say 'Est ist ein Ziel' meaning this is just the beginning.

Kazrem:

It's not hard to know where and how a girl like was brought up. I neither moved nor pained by your words. Every man represents the home he comes from. Hogwash!

Evathyst:
*Yinmu*


Here's another NCE sympathiser! Do you even understand the crux of the matter at all? Or you simply have a problem with comprehension! For you information, I didn't start the name-calling, your henchmen did. Scroll up and you'll see all the names they dished out at me.


Why should the one who stepped on a millipede cry blue murder even when the millipede has not raised it's voice in protest? For a sympathiser like you, inherently not gifted with a faculty of discernment. Why should I take your insults personally?


Just like the germans would say 'Est ist ein Ziel' meaning this is just the beginning.