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Re: Saraki:CCT Does Not Have Equal Jurisdiction With the High court- Agbakoba by OYIBN: 7:43pm On Sep 19, 2015
l am not a lawyer but common sense tells me that the Federal High court can never by an appeal court for people charged by the code of Conduct bureau. So what happens? How is the Code of Conduct bureau supposed to function if looters of our treasury will run to the Federal High Court for protection once they are charged by the Code of Conduct Bureau.

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Re: Saraki:CCT Does Not Have Equal Jurisdiction With the High court- Agbakoba by mojeer678: 7:57pm On Sep 19, 2015
OYIBN:
Don't mind Agbakoba , he is an individual that speaks from both sides of the mouth depending on where his bread is buttered. He has turned full circle now that his name is not on Ministerial list. He would have been
singing another tune if his name was on Ministerial list. Don't mind the fake human right activist. If Saraki is clean let him go and answer to his charges at Code of Conduct bureau rather than trying to stall proceedings using the courts. The era of using the Federal, Appeal and Supreme courts to stall cases for years while the real charges gather dust at the Code of Conduct bureau are over.

It's easy to spot a desperate lawyer looking for a juicy brief. Agbakoba is yearning dust. What's wrong with these individuals?

His statement that the National Industrial Court is not a superior court, despite all evidence to the contrary, that's when I knew that this yeye man has lost it!

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Re: Saraki:CCT Does Not Have Equal Jurisdiction With the High court- Agbakoba by vadmir: 8:03pm On Sep 19, 2015
mojeer678:


It's easy to spot a desperate lawyer looking for a juicy brief. Agbakoba is yearning dust. What's wrong with these individuals?

His statement that the National Industrial Court is not a superior court, despite all evidence to the contrary, that's when I knew that this yeye man has lost it!

Exactly what do you understand to be a superior court of record? It appears many of you are loosely using the term superior court of record, there couldn't be many superior court of record in one country, it will fall apart. The Courts as we know it normally operate on a doctrine of stare decisis.
Re: Saraki:CCT Does Not Have Equal Jurisdiction With the High court- Agbakoba by 989900: 8:08pm On Sep 19, 2015
Dhugal:

[s]You read,but wouldn't comprehend.This wise,there's no hope for you.There's none as blind as he who wouldn't see.[/s]


Shut up boy.
I asked you a simple question, you comeback with insults, how does that prove 'your' point . . . well except in your own little mind.
Re: Saraki:CCT Does Not Have Equal Jurisdiction With the High court- Agbakoba by mojeer678: 9:06pm On Sep 19, 2015
vadmir:


Exactly what do you understand to be a superior court of record? It appears many of you are loosely using the term superior court of record, there couldn't be many superior court of record in one country, it will fall apart. The Courts as we know it normally operate on a doctrine of stare decisis.

Dude, google is ya friend
Re: Saraki:CCT Does Not Have Equal Jurisdiction With the High court- Agbakoba by vadmir: 9:12pm On Sep 19, 2015
mojeer678:


Dude, google is ya friend

I know what a superior record is, you do not seem to understand my post, I know what it means but do you? If you do let us know!
Re: Saraki:CCT Does Not Have Equal Jurisdiction With the High court- Agbakoba by Oluwasolaa3: 10:03pm On Sep 19, 2015
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Re: Saraki:CCT Does Not Have Equal Jurisdiction With the High court- Agbakoba by GoodGovernance: 10:44pm On Sep 19, 2015
Shine1177:
Superior courts of record in Nigeria

Monday will be a very interesting day.

Let's go back to the basics.


Superior Courts of record refer to all the courts presided over by judges trained in law where there is a duty to record and publish for public access proceedings leading down to a judicial pronouncement. The superior courts of record in Nigeria are listed in section 6(5) of the 1999 constitution.

Inferior courts, on the other hand, may or may not have legal practitioners as presiding officers and are often not obliged to record all proceedings in any matter.


Constitution Of The Federal Republic Of Nigeria (1999).

6. (1) The judicial powers of the Federation shall be vested in the courts to which this section relates, being courts established for the Federation.

(2) The judicial powers of a State shall be vested in the courts to which this section relates, being courts established, subject as provided by this Constitution, for a State.

(3) The courts to which this section relates, established by this Constitution for the Federation and for the States, specified in subsection (5) (a) to (I) of this section, shall be the only superior courts of record in Nigeria; and save as otherwise prescribed by the National Assembly or by the House of Assembly of a State, each court shall have all the powers of a superior court of record.

(4) Nothing in the foregoing provisions of this section shall be construed as precluding:-

(a) the National Assembly or any House of Assembly from establishing courts, other than those to which this section relates, with subordinate jurisdiction to that of a High Court;

(b) the National Assembly or any House of Assembly, which does not require it, from abolishing any court which it has power to establish or which it has brought into being.

(5) This section relates to:-

(a) the Supreme Court of Nigeria;

(b) the Court of Appeal;

(c) the Federal High Court;

(d) the High Court of the Federal Capital Territory, Abuja;

(e) a High Court of a State

(f) the Sharia Court of Appeal of the Federal Capital Territory, Abuja;

(g) a Sharia Court of Appeal of a State;

(h) the Customary Court of Appeal of the Federal Capital Territory, Abuja;

(i) a Customary Court of Appeal of a State;


(j) such other courts as may be authorised by law to exercise jurisdiction on matters with respect to which the National Assembly may make laws; and

(k) such other court as may be authorised by law to exercise jurisdiction at first instance or on appeal on matters with respect to which a House of Assembly may make laws

http://www.nigeria-law.org/ConstitutionOfTheFederalRepublicOfNigeria.htm


Now that quote above is from the constitution as it was in 1999. It has since been amended and here we are concerned with the 3rd amendment.


The National Industrial Court was originally intended to be a superior court of record, but the framers of both the 1979 and 1999 constitutions did not list the NIC as a court of record. This led to confusion and the National Assembly (in both the 2nd and 4th republics) as well as the Federal Military Government (via the Trade Disputes Decree of 1992) attempted to solve this problem by enacting legislation that conferred the status of a court of record on the NIC.

However, in Bureau of Public Enterprise V. National Union of Electricity Employees (NUEE) (2010) ( http://lawaspire.com.ng/2014/06/national-union-of-electricity-employees-anor-v-bureau-of-public-enterprises/ ), the Supreme Court ruled that parts of the Trade Disputes Act (1992) were in conflict with the constitution and therefore those sections were void. The only way in which the NIC could be made a superior court of record would be by an amendment of the constitution.


The National Assembly quickly began the process of amending the constitution in 2010 and the NIC was thus made a superior court of record by the 3rd amendment to the 1999 constitution (signed by the President on March 4th, 2011). The constitution now reads:


Constitution Of The Federal Republic Of Nigeria 1999 (as amended).


(5) This section relates to:-

(a) the Supreme Court of Nigeria;

(B-) the Court of Appeal;

(c) the Federal High Court;

(cc) The National Industrial Court

(d) the High Court of the Federal Capital Territory, Abuja;

(e) a High Court of a State;

(f) the Sharia Court of Appeal of the Federal Capital Territory, Abuja;

(g) a Sharia Court of Appeal of a State;

(h) the Customary Court of Appeal of the Federal Capital Territory, Abuja;

(i) a Customary Court of Appeal of a State;



http://www.lawnigeria.com/CONSTITUTIONHUB/Constitution.html

(Also remember sections 1(1) and 1(3) of the constitution.

1. (1) This Constitution is supreme and its provisions shall have binding force on the authorities and persons throughout the Federal Republic of Nigeria.

(3) If any other law is inconsistent with the provisions of this Constitution, this Constitution shall prevail, and that other law shall, to the extent of the inconsistency, be void.
)

Note: The Code of Conduct Tribunal is not listed as a superior court of record. The Federal High Court is a superior court of record.

Also note that appeals from court martials and the National Industrial Court (before the constitutional amendment) go to the Appeal Court (see section 240 of the constitution), but that did not make court martials and the National Industrial court superior courts of record.

https://www.nairaland.com/822196/it-begins-me/31#38154933

Hello!

The issue involved is not that of superiority but jurisdiction.Are you now suggesting that if Saraki had gone to the Sharia court or customary court to obtain an order,it would have been binding on CCT to obey?

Our corrupt judges are the root cause.Why interfere in a matter that does not concern you,all in the name of superiority?

If my father(the constitution) gives me a task to carry out and directs my Uncle(court of appeal) to review my work.Can my senior brother stop me from carrying out the task or asking me to tarry a while,because he is my senior brother(my superior),without express permission and concurrence from my father(the constitution)??

If Saraki does the extraordinary by approaching directly the supreme court,would the latter entertain such a judicial rascality?

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Re: Saraki:CCT Does Not Have Equal Jurisdiction With the High court- Agbakoba by christtar(m): 5:25am On Sep 20, 2015
The appointment of Hon. Justice Umar went through the nomination and recommendation of National Judicial Council as well as Federal Judicial Service Commission before the approval of President Goodluck Jonathan.

The code of conduct and tribunal act states that (3)
The chairman shall be a person who has held or is qualified to hold office as a Judge of a superior court of record in Nigeria and shall receive such remuneration as may be prescribed by law. Pls not ( superior court of record )

(3) The punishments mentioned in subsection (2) of this section shall be without prejudice to the penalties that may be imposed by any law where the breach of conduct is also a criminal offence under the Criminal Code or any other enactment or law.

(4) Where the Tribunal gives a decision as to whether or not a person is guilty of a contravention of any of the provisions of this Act, an appeal shall lie as of right from such decision or from any punishment imposed on such person to the Court of Appeal at the instance of any party to the proceedings.

(5) Any right of appeal to the Court of Appeal from the decision of the Tribunal conferred by subsection

(4) of this section shall be exercised in accordance with the provisions of the rules of court for the time being in force regulating the powers, practice and procedure of the Court of Appeal.

(6) Nothing in this section shall prejudice the prosecution of a public officer punished under this section, or preclude such officer from being prosecuted or punished for an offence in a court of law.

(7) The provisions of the Constitution of the Federal Republic of Nigeria 1999, relating to prerogative of mercy, shall not apply to any punishment imposed in accordance with the provisions of this section

A tribunal headed by
a person who has held or is qualified to hold office as a Judge of a superior court of record in Nigeria is not inferior to the FHC .

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Re: Saraki:CCT Does Not Have Equal Jurisdiction With the High court- Agbakoba by mrmiyagi2: 8:10am On Sep 20, 2015
wirinet:


Chukwudi, you flogging a dead horse. The Code of conduct tribunal is a superior court as it is a creation of the constitution. Even Saraki's lawyers have seen their error, hence they applied for the arrest warrant to be quashed at the appeal court and not at the high court. The constitution does not create inferior courts.

IMO, Saraki's lawyers went to the court of appeal to appeal his arrest warrant - a "decision" of the CCT,this being the right channel. However , their sojourn to the FHC was not to appeal to a CCT "decision" but on issues of jurisprudence/process for which the FHC being a SUPERIOR COURT as affirmed by the 1999 Constitution and its subsequent ammendment, has every right to.

The constitution is supreme and any court NOT EXPRESSLY listed as a superior court IS AN INFERIOR COURT.

The CCT IS AN INFERIOR COURT, hence matters of its jurisprudence/process can be reviewed by a FHC - A SUPERIOR COURT
Re: Saraki:CCT Does Not Have Equal Jurisdiction With the High court- Agbakoba by mojeer678: 9:59am On Sep 20, 2015
vadmir:


I know what a superior record is, you do not seem to understand my post, I know what it means but do you? If you do let us know!

See the National Industrial Court Act of 2006 with the Explanatory Notes "This Act establishes the National Industrial Court as a superior court of record and confers jurisdiction on the court with respect to labour and industrial relations matters".

Then, also see the National Industrial Court under the 1999 Constitution (Third Alteration) Act No. 3 of 2010 signed into law by GEJ. Section 254D (1) provides "for the purpose of exercising any jurisdiction conferred upon it by this Constitution or as may be conferred by an Act of the National Assembly, the National Industrial Court shall have all powers of a High Court."

That's what proves that your SAN Agbakoba was sprouting BS and twisting the truth simply to get attention by Saraki and be invited to join the legal team to ostensibly share in the loot & booty.

That's what the issue is all about. Don't get it twisted and don't you dare derail the thread!
Re: Saraki:CCT Does Not Have Equal Jurisdiction With the High court- Agbakoba by Shine1177: 10:52am On Sep 20, 2015
GoodGovernance:


Hello!

The issue involved is not that of superiority but jurisdiction.Are you now suggesting that if Saraki had gone to the Sharia court or customary court to obtain an order,it would have been binding on CCT to obey?

Our corrupt judges are the root cause.Why interfere in a matter that does not concern you,all in the name of superiority?

If my father(the constitution) gives me a task to carry out and directs my Uncle(court of appeal) to review my work.Can my senior brother stop me from carrying out the task or asking me to tarry a while,because he is my senior brother(my superior),without express permission and concurrence from my father(the constitution)??

If Saraki does the extraordinary by approaching directly the supreme court,would the latter entertain such a judicial rascality?


Our impression that our Judges are corruption will not help this country. Some people believe only Buhari is clean in this nation but alas, how wrong they are. Monday shall meet us well.
Re: Saraki:CCT Does Not Have Equal Jurisdiction With the High court- Agbakoba by Eziachi: 1:27pm On Sep 21, 2015
gbaskipro:


Who are you? A nobody I guess. What do you know about law and process? Absolutely nothing! Shut up and suck ur mamas boobs little boy
Sorry, am nobody as you had rightly guessed, just a victim of authority stealing like you.
And again, am too old to follow your lifestyle of sucking whatever that you loved sucking and far worst is that my mama died so many years ago even before you were born.
So Mr Big Boy, even if I am dying to, there is nothing to suck.
Re: Saraki:CCT Does Not Have Equal Jurisdiction With the High court- Agbakoba by Eziachi: 1:31pm On Sep 21, 2015
SeverusSnape:

Good, I don't do religious stuffs.
Sorry, supporting corrupt men and women is now a religion in Nigeria. So you do, do religious stuff actually without even knowing it.
Re: Saraki:CCT Does Not Have Equal Jurisdiction With the High court- Agbakoba by Eziachi: 1:52pm On Sep 21, 2015
chukwudi44:


That is exactly what he did !! He went to a higher court of record!! The FHC is a superior court to the CCT.
No thats not what he did.
Instead of going to the CCT he went straight to another court of equal status asking for an injunction to stop him being tried.
Its only if the CCT ruled against him, that he should proceed to the Court of Appeal (Not the High Court).
That is why the judge of the high court was smart enough to rule that he should appear to tell him and explain why he thinks that CCT is illegally constituted? Rather than telling him outrightly that High Court hasn't got such a jurisdiction.

Why do you think he rushed to the Court of appeal even before his applications in the High Court is ruled upon? Because they are now second guessing even the High Court, in the event of not getting what he wanted, probably buying more time.

Its so simple and clear, what Saraki and his representatives are doing. But they should not be allowed to make a mockery of the judiciary or the justice system.
I believed that its high time the CJN should come out and make pronoucement to clear up things, especially this new trend of using crooked injunctions to police questioning or stopping a trial or arrest of an individual.

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Re: Saraki:CCT Does Not Have Equal Jurisdiction With the High court- Agbakoba by Eziachi: 1:54pm On Sep 21, 2015
Shine1177:


Our impression that our Judges are corruption will not help this country. Some people believe only Buhari is clean in this nation but alas, how wrong they are. Monday shall meet us well.
This is not about Buhari. Buhari can only defend his own integrity. The ball is now in Saraki's court to make some of those Nigerians to stop believing that Buhari is the only clean one.
Re: Saraki:CCT Does Not Have Equal Jurisdiction With the High court- Agbakoba by Eziachi: 2:04pm On Sep 21, 2015
chukwudi44:


Agbakoba is a constitutional lawyer,i would rather listen to him than you!! Even Saraki's lawyers posited the same argument.Dont forget he quoted a section of the constitution to back up his statement.
Agbakoba is not a constitutional lawyer but that not the issue at the moment. You don't need a degree in law to even know how the law works.
Quoting sections of the constitution or case law is what a lawyer is paid to do for his client, whether what he is quoting has any merit to underpin the fact of the matter is another thing.
Why do you think cases are lost after quoting the constitution a-z? I have always lived in a democracy, I understood the concept of law and rule of law.

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Re: Saraki:CCT Does Not Have Equal Jurisdiction With the High court- Agbakoba by gbaskipro: 4:42pm On Sep 21, 2015
Eziachi:

Sorry, am nobody as you had rightly guessed, just a victim of authority stealing like you.
And again, am too old to follow your lifestyle of sucking whatever that you loved sucking and far worst is that my mama died so many years ago even before you were born.
So Mr Big Boy, even if I am dying to, there is nothing to suck.


I am not victim of anything, I worked for my money and am happy the way I am, keep waiting for government and you and your family will remain poor till God k ows when

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