Teempakguy:
No.
This is wrong.

If the creature doesn't prove itself worthy to the creator, the creator modifies it. especially an all knowing creator that can even predict the behaviour of the creation before it's even created.
There is no need to "burn" the creature for eternity nah.

HireKiller:


Except that, the fact that the creator plans to burn the creature for eternity, is just a fake rumor spread by the church to make people convert to christianity from fear.
The creator merely plans to dispose of the bad creatures via burning.

TrajansKong:


You cannot judge.
Praise him. Repent and fear his wrath.

TrajansKong:


He will have His Revenge!! Vengeance is mine, saith the Lord!!

Teempakguy:

Okay. Now, let me say my own.

1. Jesus did not put any condition into his statement when he said ask anything. In another place, he said, if your faith is like a mustard seed, you can command a mountain to be removed. And it will happen.
Imagine if you were a missionary to a village, and they put poison in your food and asked you to bless it, eat it, and live before they believe, what will you do? (It's still won't work though. You'd still die.)

2. I'm not tempting God. I'm testing him. do you know why I'm testing him? Because there are other Gods in the game. There's Allah, there's this whole plethora of Gods. Now, how to know which is true? Someone has to do one the others can't. So, we have to test all of them. To see which is correct. Faith . . . doesn't cut it here.

3. Thomas saw Jesus performed miracles. It was only a matter of mere deductive reasoning to understand that he indeed could arise. Besides, he was not the only one. Peter also did not believe. He had to run to the tomb himself to confirm it. Also, I am 100% sure that if any of the other disciples were in Thomas position, they would behave in the same way.

4. Saying that God works in a mysterious way only allows you to explain away his shortcomings. It's not helping. Why? Because this is the same exact argument that EVERY OTHER RELIGION uses to help their Gods out in the face of hard logic.


I have decided to give God another try . . . I will indeed pray and seek his face for a week. We shall see what is going to happen.

HireKiller:


You ungrateful child.

Teempakguy:
why wasn't this rumor stopped?
Hmm

Dcmg2:
yeah,tell that to chibok girls.Boko haram said God told them to kill,maybe that is their own purpose,and their creator will destroy them if they don't kill their fellow human.What a loving GOD.
Your God created adam and eve,and he created an evil tree in the garden.For what purpose did he create the evil apple tree?In order to punish mankind.?
mehn,nawa for this your loving God o.

Xsolutions:
This doesn't mean ANYTHING...

Teempakguy:
No.
This is wrong.

If the creature doesn't prove itself worthy to the creator, the creator modifies it. especially an all knowing creator that can even predict the behaviour of the creation before it's even created.
There is no need to "burn" the creature for eternity nah.

darnley16:
more and more Atheists turning Up everyday in Nigeria, nothing gladdens my heart like this

SonOfEl:


1. what if God tried to 'modify' the person by constantly preaching repentance to the person and he or she, by freewill, refuses? God is patient, but he has an APPOINTED time for everyone's judgement. when that time comes, even your anger would not match God's wrath upon this wicked people.

2. Adam and eve and the tree. I think you should study the bible deeper before criticising it. freewill in the presence of an evil snare is man's perfect proof of loyalty and faithfulness to God. how will I know my wife is faithful to me? I will know because there are many male distractions around her even when am not around, yet, she CHOOSES to be faithful to me, such is also the case of a woman that has a relationship with a guy who is exposed to female distractions everyday, yet by freewill, he CHOOSES to stay faithful.

Dcmg2:
ok,those killed in nepal by earthquake were facing the wrath of God?Those killed in mecca crane crash were facing the wrath of god?Those killed in synagoge church collapse were facing the wrath of god?Hmm.Nawa for your God and is wrath o

Dcmg2:
ungrateful child?Tell that to those who were born blind,who were born disabled who were born with diseases like sickle cell,tumors etc with no known cause.Maybe they were just born to come and suffer.I'm sure they will be grateful to hear you

TrajansKong:
Hold your tongue! Beware! He will not be mocked.

Ezerbullet:


To you!!!

dorox10:

Why give us the priviledge to make choices when you(as a God) knows the choices we are going to make at the end(as an all knowing God)? And also punish us for making that choice you already know we are going to make

Dcmg2:
ok,those killed in nepal by earthquake were facing the wrath of God?Those killed in mecca crane crash were facing the wrath of god?Those killed in synagoge church collapse were facing the wrath of god?Hmm.Nawa for your God and is wrath o

HireKiller:


You should have asked me to tell that to Esau who was rejected by God even before he was born. Why do you think God rejected the supposely innocent baby Esau? Was it not because of his future action. These guys most likely ended up in that cruel birth circumstance because of their future actions. You that can't see the future simply won't be able to tell.

And FYI I didn't say God punish them for their future actions, I meant He withdrew His hand of care from them.

Even if I say these, all the examples you gave above are simply natural cases with natural biological cause. A brother and sister give birth and that child has defect and you go and be blaming God ignorantly.
A baby is born via the wrong proceedure and got blind as a result, then you start falsely accusing God.

HireKiller:


Nice, this is exactly what I believe.

I thought you were one of those who believed God would torment sinners with fire for eternity like some kind of crazy sadist, when He could just put them out of their misery.

I for one can't serve a god like that.

*Modified*
I am not a jehova witness FYI. You can confirm that from my username. A JV wouldn't use one like that, I think.

SonOfEl:


do you want answers or you just want to be antagonistic? anyway, I will answer you still.

natural or unforseen disasters are the work of evil and invisible principalities and powers. Satan like the bible says, roars like a lion, seeking for whom to destroy. he cometh not but to steal, to kill, and to destroy. its because he knows he has but a short time to face judgement from God. so he is doing his worst.

for true believers, death has no sting. it is even a short cut to paradise. it is only human nature that makes us fear death. but when divine nature comes upon you, you see death as a means to greater glory. only those you leave behind may not understand. that is why we all need our spiritual leaders to encourage us by the scripture I'm these troublous times.

man is also partially responsible for the natural disasters due to environmental degradation in the forests, atmosphere, and water bodies. God help us all from our self destructive lifestyles.

LastSurvivor:
Religion is the problem of Africa.. The funniest part is that the Bible said "God regretted creating man"
my question is; does the omnipotent/omniscience God didn't know what man will turn out to be before the creation of man, didn't he kn that Adam n Eve will eat the apple before he created the apple?

jokers

Dcmg2:
hahahahaha.This religious people no go kill me.
Every bad thing that happen is the work of satan?Then why can't your God destroy this satan Forever.
Satan is in hell inflicting harm in the world your God created and your God is watching doing nothing.

Paradise163:
[b] Hellfire—Is It Part of Divine Justice?
Have you ever seen someone tortured? We hope not. Deliberate torture is sickening and abhorrent. What, though, of torture inflicted by God? Can you imagine such a thing? Yet, this is exactly what is implied by the teaching of hellfire, an official doctrine in many religions.

Imagine, for a moment, the following horrific scene: A person is being roasted on a hot iron plate. In his agony he screams for mercy, but nobody listens. The torture goes on and on, hour after hour, day after day—without pause!

Whatever crime the victim may have committed, would not your heart go out to him? What of the one who ordered the torture? Could he be a loving person? In no way! Love is merciful and shows pity. A loving father may punish his children, but he would never torture them!

Nevertheless, many religions teach that God tortures sinners in an eternal hellfire. This, it is claimed, is divine justice. If that is true, who created that terrible place of eternal torment? And who is responsible for the excruciating agonies inflicted there? The answers would seem obvious. If such a place really exists, then God would have to be the creator of it, and he would be responsible for what happens there.

Can you accept that? The Bible* says: “God is love.” (1 John 4 vs eight ) Would a God of love inflict torture that even humans with any measure of decency find revolting? Surely not!

An Unreasonable Teaching
Still, many believe that the wicked will go to a fiery hell and be tormented forever. Is this teaching logical? The human life span is limited to 70 or 80 years. Even if someone perpetrated extreme wickedness for his whole lifetime, would everlasting torment be a just punishment? No. It would be grossly unjust to torment a man forever for the limited number of sins that he can commit in a lifetime.

Who knows the truth about what happens after we die? Only God can reveal this information, and he has done so in his written Word, the Bible, referred to above. Here is what the Bible says: “As the [beast] dies, so the [man] dies; and they all have but one spirit . . . All are going to one place. They have all come to be from the dust, and they are all returning to the dust.” (Ecclesiastes 3:19, 20) There is no mention here of a fiery hell. Humans return to dust—to nonexistence—when they die.

In order to be tormented, an individual has to be conscious. Are the dead conscious? No. “The living are conscious that they will die; but as for the dead, they are conscious of nothing at all, neither do they anymore have wages, because the remembrance of them has been forgotten.” (Ecclesiastes 9:5) It is impossible for the dead, “conscious of nothing at all,” to experience the agonies of hellfire.

A Harmful Doctrine
Some maintain that the teaching of hellfire is useful, true or not. Why? They say it serves as a deterrent to wrongdoing. Is that true? Well, is the crime rate in regions where people believe in hellfire lower than in other places? Hardly! In fact, the doctrine of hellfire is very harmful. Will a person who believes that God torments people view torture as something abhorrent? Why should he? Those believing in a cruel god often become cruel like their god.

In whatever way a reasonable person may look at the matter, he cannot accept the existence of a hell of torment. Logic rebels against it. Human nature is repelled by it. More important, God’s Word does not say that such a place exists. When a person dies, “he goes back to his ground; in that day his thoughts do perish.”—Psalm 146:4.

What Punishment for Sin?
[/b] To read more, visit www.jw.org and you find satisfactory answers just as I did

olaniyanibukun0:


Bruv.... I agree with you that Religion is our problem but Christianity and Religion, are on opposite spectrum. One was God made while the other was invented by man.

Religion is Man searching for God... Christianity is God searching for man
Yes... God is omniscience..... But I believe he doesn't know the choices we are going to make..... But he knows the end result of the the choices we made

He gave man the choice to eat the Apple or not


That's why Christians won't kill u if you don't convert... The choice is yours to make...

To make heaven is also by choice

SonOfEl:


like I stated earlier, he has but a short term to display his wickedness. when judgement comes, if Satan cannot escape it.

God has promised us a new heaven (galaxies and skies) and a new earth, whereby he will rule the earth in his glory and mercies. so don't be afraid, there is hope for the earth okay?

Dcmg2:
RUBBISH!