dejavski:


He relate to A******?

coolitempa:
Even if true....which it is not....the report did not mention ibo as dominant....OP is a liar or at best an illiterate....

OnReflection:


Of course he is an incontrovertible liar.
I actually conducted a similar study to the one published here, in a neigbouring LEA to Lambeth, several years ago.
He misses the entire point of the report!

OnReflection:
Making a mockery of statistics since 1900AD



Erm...shouldn't the real honour go to the one percenters, the Lungandans?

. fred says:     
June 26, 2015 at 5:31 pm GMT • 100 Words
In east London in the UK there are a small number of highly intelligent Nigerians. Taking GCSEs at six. A levels at 12. That sort of thing. I know. I have taught them. Only a few but far more than could be expected by chance or according to the normal probability law. I have never taught any other nationality that even came close except a couple of Chinese possibly.
Not sure how they train on however.

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. Bliss says:     
June 26, 2015 at 12:13 pm GMT • 200 Words
many black students are actively involved in athletics even when they have a strong academic focus. For example, a check on the Cambridge web site reveals that Chidera Ota, the UK’s best GCSE student in her cohort, was also the fastest runner in the girls 100 and 200 meters team for Cambridge (she qualified to Cambridge’s premed program after subsequently achieving straight A’s on her A-levels).

This is interesting. Does this mean that african geniuses are less prone to nerdiness? Something similar has also been observed at the other end of the IQ spectrum. Whites with extremely low IQs (<70) look and act retarded while blacks with similar IQs tend to be more normal.

Btw, I googled Chidera Ota and found that her younger sister is also a super-high achiever academically:

http://www.kentonline.co.uk/sheerness/news/now-sister-has-great-grades-5287/

An Eastchurch girl has achieved a star-studded set of GCSE results – almost matching her sister’s top grades three years ago. Chindi Ota, of Leet Close, found out she achieved 13 A*s and two As when she picked up her exam marks from Highsted Grammar School, Sittingbourne, last Thursday. The 16-year-old got the highest grade in English language, English literature, maths, statistics, French, history, biology, chemistry, physics, RE and an ICT qualification worth three GCSEs. The two As were in sociology and German. She is due to start at the King’s School, Canterbury, on Tuesday to study physics, biology, chemistry, maths and further maths A-levels.

She doesn’t look nerdy either…

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Simon in London says:     
June 25, 2015 at 5:26 am GMT • 200 Words
@Drake
” To use Nigerian immigrants to the US as an example, 58.6% have college degrees and 28.3% had graduate degrees. Among Nigerians as a whole, less than 10% have college degrees. The immigrants are therefore a highly non-representative selection of the Nigerian population.”

Yes, but they may be relatively representative of some tribes/groups within Nigeria (anecdotally, I see so many female Nigerian students from upper-working-class backgrounds perform so much better than the elites of other nations, it is hard for me not to believe this). In my experience, and from the data I’ve seen, the Nigerian Smart Fraction seems to be much much larger than with eg Middle Eastern populations, possibly superior to south Asia also, at least for female students.

Nigeria seems to bear some resemblance to India, with discrete high-IQ groups and (many) lower IQ groups – Americans seem to think of Indians as high-IQ, due to selective migration, just as black Africans tend to perform highly in the UK.

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Paul Conroy says:     
June 25, 2015 at 5:47 am GMT • 100 Words
Lynn’s work has been discredited and debunked numerous times, as he makes up data, and cherry picks results – so no point quoting him!

I agree with Drake above, there is massive selection for elite students from West Africa, to come to US colleges – so they are not representative of anything African. Some groups like the Ibo/Igbo of South Eastern Nigeria were rated as superior intellectually by the British, so there is no reason to believe they wouldn’t be similar today. Similar claims were made for the Tutsi of Rwanda.

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Vendetta says:     
June 25, 2015 at 7:27 am GMT
Fascinating. Real tragedy that the Igbo Biafran secession failed so badly…read some accounts and was always impressed by the degree of ingenuity on display among the Igbos. The rest of Nigeria really seems to drag them down.

I’d bet on the Tutsis as another of the more intelligent groups.

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. Big Bill says:     
June 25, 2015 at 3:00 pm GMT • 100 Words
As a jew Translating the author, “don’t call them ‘African ‘, they are Igbo, and they have been superior to ‘Africans’ since time immemorial.” The question for us is why we let them migrate here instead of staying with their people and making their homelands better? And further, given their great native intelligence, (and having sold slaves to us, back in the day) why are they getting Affirmative Action?

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Qasim says:     
June 25, 2015 at 5:53 pm GMT • 300 Words
This article reminded me of something Razib Khan posted several months ago…

http://www.unz.com/gnxp/back-to-africa-and-the-bantu-explosion/

Here are a few of the most important snippets:

For far too long Africa was conceived of as a blackbox in genetic terms, eternally useful as an outgroup, basal to the rest of humanity…. Yes, everyone could agree that there were back migrations along the periphery of the continent, the great swath north of the Sahara around to the Horn of Africa, but Sub-Saharan Africa was neglected in these treatments. No more….

For me the big topline result is in the figure above, where you see the collection of results suggestiong admixture into African populations from Eurasia and also between agriculturalists and hunter-gatherers….

What is more interesting is that they observed Eurasian admixture within Yoruba people. This admixture has been suggested by others, as the Yoruba have traces of Neandertal ancestry. This group dates the admixture back to nearly 10,000 years ago, so it as likely associated with goings on that were trans-Saharan.

Personally, I know a lot of Igbo who are highly educated, often physicians. I have also noticed that many have a skin tone and eye color (light brown) that one would not initially expect in West Africans. It would be ironic if their high achievement, rather than refuting the genetic hypothesis, actually ends up strengthening it!! I doubt too many researchers will be too gung-ho about trying to find out if there is a correlation between high African educational achievement and percentage of Eurasian ancestry though…

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. Mobaslaka in London says:     
June 25, 2015 at 9:13 pm GMT • 100 Words
@Bill
“The hereditarian is going to argue for selective immigration of the cognitive elite ”

Personally I’m against mass immigration from any highly divergent group unless perhaps there is a critical manpower shortage – eg “We better populate Australia/USA quickly or the Chinese/Spanish will get it” sort of thing. I suspect there is an economic advantage to UK GDP per capita from Igbo immigration, but I’m not sure that makes it a good idea. For one thing, the Igbo tend to compete with and outcompete many natives. For another, more people means less space. Still, it’s a much better idea than mass immigration of many of the low-IQ, high-crime groups we do get.

. Prized Inels says:     
June 25, 2015 at 9:33 pm GMT • 100 Words
@mobaslaka
We need a breakdown of 2nd generation Igbo and Yorubi Americans. Studying the aggregate of black immigrant descendents isn’t detailed enough.

As for sports, this year’s NBA finals MVP is Igbo. His teammate is also Igbo, who turned down Harvard basketball. Their two superstar teammates, which includes this year’s overall MVP, both have 1 black and 1 white parent each.

It seems clear to me that both Nigerians and mixed black-white athletes do disproportionately well at sports and academia. I’m not aware of any other genetic group that dually talented, other than that one singular multiracial golfer, who was a genetic golfing freak who also attended Stanford.

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.
Donald Richardson says:     
June 26, 2015 at 11:08 am GMT
Maybe the Igbo have somewhat higher IQs than other Nigerians and there is more variation around the mean.

That could explain the fairly large number of high IQ Igbos.

-DR

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4Play:


To be fair to the OP, the Lugandans mean percentage over 3 years is lower than that of his Igbo "master race."

I suspect what this tells us, something we already know, is that Igbos are disproportionately driven to succeed. Hence, Igbos are overrepresented in drug trafficking and academic success.

The superior Igbo achievement on GCSEs is not new and has been noted in studies that came before the recent media discovery of African performance. A 2007 report on “case study” model schools in Lambeth also included a rare disclosure of specified Igbo performance (recorded as Ibo in the table below) and it confirms that Igbos have been performing exceptionally well for a long time (5 + A*-C GCSEs); in fact, it is difficult to find a time when they ever performed below British whites.

Groups like the famous Igbo tribe, which has contributed much genetically to the African American blacks, are well known to be high academic achievers within Nigeria. In fact, their performance seems to be at least as high as the “model minority” Chinese and Indians in the UK, as seen when some recent African immigrants are divided into languages spoken at home (which also indicates that these are not multigenerational descendants but children of recent immigrants).

new2020:
I have been saying this for a while; infact dedicated my account to telling Igbos that they are not ordinary black people. They have no connection to Negro...African blacks, your ancestry can be traced to israel. Highly placed western governments are aware of this. Nnamdi Kanu even confirmed this.

Here is what the American government said during the Biafran war...exact quote


"Igbos are wandering Jews of West Africa - gifted, aggressive, westernized, and at best, envied and resented, but mostly despised by their neighbors in the Federation---" (a White House Memo on Biafra January 28, 1969 to President Nixon by Secretary of State, Henry Kissinger) (Source : U.S Foreign Relations Documents Volume 5 , 1969)

Dr. Thomas Sowell, renowned American philosopher in one of his books recognized four highly gifted races/ethnicities across the world: The Jews, Germans, Chinese and Igbos.

If only Igbos know who they are, some of them will go mad in anger. There has been a deliberate attempt to obfuscate their true identity and hold them down, they succeeded with former but not the latter, which has them wondering...there is a power behind them.

OnReflection:


Like OP, who saw fit to embellish the original report with the inclusion of the following remarks, you are either innumerate or deluded:



Original Report -- http://www.lambeth.gov.uk/rsu/sites/lambeth.gov.uk.rsu/files/Raising_the_Achievement_of_Black_African_Pupils-Good_Practice_in_Schools_2013.pdf

pazienza:


You have no point. Over a period of three years, the Igbo cumulatively are head and shoulders above the lugandas and krios, from the table you showed.

Imagine at a point, Igbos had 100%.

doublewisdom:
Many yorubas go commit suicide this night o.

doublewisdom:
My yoruba neighbour just asked his child to go buy rat poison. OP better take down this thread.

IGBOSON1:
From what i saw from the part in bold.....Igbo, Yoruba and Ashanti were mentioned! Unless i missed the part that specifically mentioned Igbo only!

OnReflection:


^^^Another poorly educated fellow, who fancies himself as member of a superior race.
I blame the education system in Nigeria for such vacuous thinking.

new2020:


Pained yoruba man...get away from here.

OnReflection:


I have no point? You think you are addressing one of your co-travelling scallywags?

Now hear this:

Given the sample size of 411, the following applies:

# of Lugandan pupils in the report = 4
# of Igbo pupils = 16
# of Yoruba pupils = 90

If you want further information on what underlines the data you clearly cannot process, my services are billable

Foot note: it is a shame that the unexposed among us always reduce important issues relating to attainment/achievement elsewhere to primordial biases.

pazienza:


Lugandas over the three year period had an average percentage of 64% while the Igbo had an average of 85.

You number of pupils obviously had no influence on the average result.

What's more? JAMB and Unity schools stats are still pointing to Igbos being ahead of Yorubas, and in the process complement this report.

Like I said before, you have no point.

OnReflection:


You take an average over 3 years, in order to achieve an ephemeral high, when you have no concept or understanding of the numbers involved?
Listen, it is an exercise in futility arguing with an untutored mind.

OnReflection:


You take an average over 3 years, in order to achieve an ephemeral high, when you have no concept or understanding of the numbers involved?
Listen, it is an exercise in futility arguing with an untutored mind.

PenSniper:
All the ibos that commented on this thread, except IGBOSON1, simply based their posts on the headline which is rather misleading.
Hear Godswill Akpabio ...if countries exist on propaganda, biafra will exist as a country today...He should know because he was part of it.

That land seems to have the JOSEPH GOEBELLS of this world in large supply.

alfred5:



Bia Mr Man, before you argue , do check Unity school and Jamb cut off mark. Are they true or not? If yes, then close your mouth. If no, o ya continue.

. Hobbesian Meliorist says: • Website     
June 26, 2015 at 5:40 pm GMT • 

If mates are selected to any extent by cognitive ability, then the regression to the mean should be less. If there is a very strong tendency to select mates by cognitive ability (or educational achievement, which amounts to much the same thing), there could be very little regression to the mean, so the offspring and future descendants of Nigerian immigrants in the UK could continue to produce high educational achievement indefinitely, and it wouldn’t really tell us anything about the average IQ in Nigeria.

(6) As for the suggestion that Igbos might by substantially more intelligent than other tribes – are they? Who knows? I don’t think there’s enough data. The numbers in the comparison table published by the London Borough of Lambeth swing so much from year to year (Yoruba, 39% in 2009, 75% in 2011; Igbo, 100% in 2009, 76% in 2011, Luganda 33% in 2010, 83% in 2011) that I’m inclined to think the numbers do not permit any strong inference.

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. Gene Su says:     
June 27, 2015 at 2:26 am GMT • 100 Words
I bet some one reading this article is going to want to trade our black natives in America for the Igbo.

This is why I think of myself as a culturalist as opposed to a racialist. Intelligence is a function not so much of genes or environment but values, attitudes, and culture.

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OnReflection:


Let me tell you this for nothing; some would argue that since Igbo youth mainly attend catholic schools (generally the best performing schools in London), the results that have you salivating should be even more impressive. Sadly there are not.

The achievement of Black pupils is rising but not fast enough - a point anyone conversant with the workings of the British education system would understand.

See, it is precisely these salient points that flies over the head of ethnic jingoists like you.
No understanding; no concept of what is at stake; but propelled by inordinate pride in abilities that are not fully developed yet.

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Given the sample size of 411, the following applies:

# of Lugandan pupils in the report = 4
# of Igbo pupils = 16
# of Yoruba pupils = 90