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Re: All The News About The Olympic Eagles (U-23) HERE! by Icon4s(m): 10:24pm On Sep 22, 2015
Orkpekyandega:

I was just asking my self if the same feelings that Sir Icon4s have been having hasn't come over you, 2 bad.


He can't be happy over that. 4 sure.

grin . I wish he had played all 90mins cos i would have liked to see more of him to better size him up.

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Re: All The News About The Olympic Eagles (U-23) HERE! by Icon4s(m): 10:29pm On Sep 22, 2015
TheSuperNerd:
So I'm not crazy..... This is weird. I'm not even watching the game coz I got some engagements tonite.

Why do most of my hunches have to come true? Pleasant or unpleasant.

This is really weird........

Hope Sir Icon4s is happy now.......


Y should I be happy? I have nothing to prove. It is very glaring that Iheanacho is nt much of d Super Star status as u and ur allies tag him.
Re: All The News About The Olympic Eagles (U-23) HERE! by TheSuperNerd(m): 10:36pm On Sep 22, 2015
Experience talking again with an "I told you so" ring to it......

Anyway Let's move on.


Icon4s:


Y should I be happy? I have nothing to prove. It is very glaring that Iheanacho is nt much of d Super Star status as u and ur allies tag him.
Re: All The News About The Olympic Eagles (U-23) HERE! by Icon4s(m): 10:38pm On Sep 22, 2015
TheSuperNerd:
I KNEW IT! ! ! IT WAS SO CLEAR................ I just knew you were someone with a lot of experience. I know when experience talks....... Exactly the reason for all this conservatism...... EXPERIENCE.

That's why I termed you "Baba" Icon once, a couple of pages back. Holy moses! You must have seen the 1979 fifa u-20 world cup Live!!!!!....... Simply awesome!!!!

Anyway, that's what experience can do. I don't have that yet. But what I do roll with is 'Knowledge' which have respect for no age or era.


You've always had my respects Sir and you still do.........In fact, You'll always have my respects despite our differing views. I love the way you see things sometimes....... Only sometimes *smiles*
It's just that we live in an age right now where experience alone does not guarantee relevance coz core knowledge (including knowledge gained from observing other's experiences and the likes) is super vital. So what we the younger generation may lack in experience, we certainly make up for it in Indepth knowledge through study, observation, empathy, and learning thru experiences of others or otherwise.

It is only the vastly experienced man or woman that would say "...........I have been around for too long to know that this will happen just this way. There's nothing new here. I've seen something similar before" THAT IS EXACTLY THE BANE OF EXPERIENCE.....

I'M NOT SAYING THAT THOSE WITH EXPERIENCE LACK KNOWLEDGE..... NO WAY!!!!
BUT THE KNOWLEDGE VIA EXPERIENCE CAN MAKE ONE CLOSE MINDED INSTEAD OF OPEN MINDED....


PEOPLE SAY KNOWLEDGE IS POWER AND EXPERIENCE THE BEST TEACHER.........THOSE ARE HALF-TRUTHS.

I BELIEVE THAT EXPERIENCE IS ONE OF THE TEACHERS BUT CERTAINLY NOT THE BEST. KNOWLEDGE GAINED FROM KEEN OBSERVATION, SMALL EXPERIENCES (WHICH THE WISE CAN TURN INTO IMPACTFUL MEANINGS FOR LIFE APPLICATIONS), AND CONTINUAL LEARNING IS A BETTER TEACHER. For me, as a Christian, the best teacher is the "HOLY SPIRIT" (Hey! I'm not preaching o)


AND I "STRONGLY" BELIEVE THAT KNOWLEDGE IS 'TRULY' POWER ONLY WHEN ONE KNOWS WHAT FACTS TO IGNORE.
Eg. Obodo, Oruma, Etim Esin, Aghahowa, Ikedia, Teslim Fatusi, Chrisantus, Lukman Haruna, Joel Obi, among a host of others are all "nigerian" talents that somewhat failed to hit the jackpot with respect to their potentials. Therefore Nacho may go the same way................... WRONG! THOSE ARE ALL FACTS BUT IT DOESN'T HAVE TO APPLY TO NACHO.


Well, Like you said, we all can't have the same views. But the truth remains truth even when nobody is right AND wrong is wrong even when everybody is wrong.

Sir Icon4s *salutes* It's been a real pleasure........

Godbless......*smiles*





Hmmm so u have so much knowledge of the game. Have u coached any professional football team. Ok any football team at all even if it is primary school team? undecided
Re: All The News About The Olympic Eagles (U-23) HERE! by TheSuperNerd(m): 10:39pm On Sep 22, 2015
Nah.... Don't worry about me dad..... I'm just fine aiiit.

So playing Nacho na experimentation? Na wa o!




Icon4s:


My friend take it easy and dnt hit ur head against the wall bc Iheanacho was nt dressed for the game. Pellegrini went for his tested and trusted players to start d game. No room for experiments. He brought in 3 teenagers after securing a 4-0 lead. Probably want to see other teenagers in his squad.

As i have always said, Kelechi Iheacho is not there yet. He is still work in progress.

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Re: All The News About The Olympic Eagles (U-23) HERE! by Icon4s(m): 10:43pm On Sep 22, 2015
TheSuperNerd:
Nah.... Don't worry about me dad..... I'm just fine aiiit.

So playing Nacho na experimentation? Na wa o!


Yes Pellegrini is still experimenting with d Kid. U saw how he brought in other 3 teenagers. He wants to identify future stars of Mancity and Kelechi belongs to dat category (future stars).
Re: All The News About The Olympic Eagles (U-23) HERE! by TheSuperNerd(m): 10:45pm On Sep 22, 2015
Look Sir, It's expected of you to understand my words..... I said I'm no master but a keen student of history.

Why do you love to go round on issues with baseless and irrelevant questions? Experience can't stand it when precocity stands up to it....... Na wa o! Never look down on anybody sir..... Please Sir I beg of u. Keep an open mind and stop letting your experience and ego becloud ur understanding of what I've been trying to say. Phewww....!!!



Icon4s:


Hmmm so u have so much knowledge of the game. Have u coached any professional football team. Ok any football team at all even if it is primary school team? undecided

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Re: All The News About The Olympic Eagles (U-23) HERE! by TheSuperNerd(m): 10:48pm On Sep 22, 2015
Yeah u rite about future stars. After all, in a class of many, one must always come first. Nacho is the crown jewel of the man city "future stars" class. Thank u.
*smiles*

And one more thing: i didn't watch the game coz I had engagements elsewhere.



Icon4s:

Yes Pellegrini is still experimenting with d Kid. U saw how he brought in other 3 teenagers. He wants to identify future stars of Mancity and Kelechi belongs to dat category (future stars).

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Re: All The News About The Olympic Eagles (U-23) HERE! by safarigirl(f): 10:52pm On Sep 22, 2015
Icon4s:


Hmmm either sick or injured?
That's funny.

u simply cant believe our Wizkid will nt b listed for a League cup game against Sunderland.

I said it that i wont be surprised if he didn't start this match
sometimes you make comments with the intention to provoke. I made that post because a Man City website stated he was injured. I didn't just come here to quote thegoodjoe, I'd already read it on twitter and came with the intention to let y'all know he was injured, he and Bony were listed as part of the injured players 'a slight knock' they tagged it. So relax before you pop champagne, Iheanacho isn't going down as quickly as would satisfy you. Lemme save whatever words I have for this your repulsive attitude.

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Re: All The News About The Olympic Eagles (U-23) HERE! by safarigirl(f): 10:59pm On Sep 22, 2015
TheSuperNerd:
Nah.... Don't worry about me dad..... I'm just fine aiiit.

So playing Nacho na experimentation? Na wa o!




no just mind sir icon. I've never seen a person who banks so heavily on another man's downfall just so he can gloat. It's immature, selfish and disturbing. I'm so pissed at that foolish comment he quoted me to post, if he followed up on those boys instead of waiting for others to post here, he wouldn't make uninformed comments....I swear, he has something against Kelechi and it's just Kelechi

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Re: All The News About The Olympic Eagles (U-23) HERE! by TheGoodJoe(m): 11:08pm On Sep 22, 2015
safarigirl:
wetin Pelle wan secure with Sunderland again? The boy is either sick or injured cuz he didn't even travel with em. Just unfortunate, but that's all there is to it. Nothing like Pelle wants to secure anything


The reason why I believe he rested them to give some reserve players a chance is because Aguero and Silva played the Juventus game despite them not being fit. Aguero also played the last game without being fit too.

I think he wanted to carry Barker and Roberts.

Bony and Nacho might be carrying slight knocks but I think Pellegrini believed his first team squad will see the game off early. Notice the goals came in the first half. He was sure he won't need Nacho.

Until our weekend game with Tottenham. Come on Citizens.
Re: All The News About The Olympic Eagles (U-23) HERE! by safarigirl(f): 11:09pm On Sep 22, 2015
Icon4s:


Y should I be happy? I have nothing to prove. It is very glaring that Iheanacho is nt much of d Super Star status as u and ur allies tag him.
so it's Succes that's superstar status abi? The sooner you purge yourself of this grudge you carry against Kelechi, the better for this thread. A young boy that I'm very sure is old enough to be your son if you're as old as you claim here, has travelled to another continent to bring glory to his country and you just sit home wishing his downfall at every turn, is it normal? Imagine if French people are doing this to Martial, but you'd sooner praise that one than your own brother. People like you are the real problem with Nigeria

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Re: All The News About The Olympic Eagles (U-23) HERE! by TheGoodJoe(m): 11:15pm On Sep 22, 2015
Icon4s:


Hmmm either sick or injured?
That's funny.

u simply cant believe our Wizkid will nt b listed for a League cup game against Sunderland.

I said it that i wont be surprised if he didn't start this match

Please. Pellegrini does it the same way. He treats every tournament or league equally. That is why Man City have not had a lot of youngsters playing under him compared to Mancini.

Note, Nacho was the best player in the EDS/Junior teams. So it is not a case of trying Nacho and then trying others. He is giving players he believes needs games to develop a chance to shine. Unlike Nacho who came into two games we struggled.

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Re: All The News About The Olympic Eagles (U-23) HERE! by TheGoodJoe(m): 11:18pm On Sep 22, 2015
Icon4s:


grin . I wish he had played all 90mins cos i would have liked to see more of him to better size him up.

It is a gradual process. Manchester City is a team of Superstars. He would not walk into the team especially when we play a 4-5-1 system in most matches this season. Nacho will get his chance because the squad is slim and the games to play are many. Then you can size him up.

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Re: All The News About The Olympic Eagles (U-23) HERE! by TheGoodJoe(m): 11:20pm On Sep 22, 2015
Icon4s:


Y should I be happy? I have nothing to prove. It is very glaring that Iheanacho is nt much of d Super Star status as u and ur allies tag him.

It is easy to make statements like these but the only time your point can hold value is if you can give your reason for this statement. Tell me what is glaring.

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Re: All The News About The Olympic Eagles (U-23) HERE! by TheGoodJoe(m): 11:24pm On Sep 22, 2015
Icon4s:


Hmmm so u have so much knowledge of the game. Have u coached any professional football team. Ok any football team at all even if it is primary school team? undecided

I know your type. You feel professional experience in the game means superiority in knowledge. Sorry it is not true. If not, Guardiola who was a rookie in top flight football would not have given Sir Alex Ferguson a lesson in the art of possession football. Despite, Sir Alex superiority in the experience of coaching top flight football.

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Re: All The News About The Olympic Eagles (U-23) HERE! by safarigirl(f): 11:25pm On Sep 22, 2015
TheGoodJoe:


It is easy to make statements like this but the only time your point can hold value is if you can give your reason for this statement.
na bad belle

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Re: All The News About The Olympic Eagles (U-23) HERE! by TheGoodJoe(m): 11:28pm On Sep 22, 2015
Icon4s:

Yes Pellegrini is still experimenting with d Kid. U saw how he brought in other 3 teenagers. He wants to identify future stars of Mancity and Kelechi belongs to dat category (future stars).

Man, with all due respect, you are joking. Among the players Pellegrini brought in, how many of them have played in the EPL this season.

With your experience in the game, you should tell that these guys and Nacho are of different categories.

Please stop waving the experience card because you could not even identify that Nacho's goal against Crystal Palace was not a rebound goal.
Baffling.

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Re: All The News About The Olympic Eagles (U-23) HERE! by linked: 11:34pm On Sep 22, 2015
You guys here are so funnyyy cheesy grin

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Re: All The News About The Olympic Eagles (U-23) HERE! by TheGoodJoe(m): 11:40pm On Sep 22, 2015
safarigirl:
so it's Succes that's superstar status abi? The sooner you purge yourself of this grudge you carry against Kelechi, the better for this thread. A young boy that I'm very sure is old enough to be your son if you're as old as you claim here, has travelled to another continent to bring glory to his country and you just sit home wishing his downfall at every turn, is it normal? Imagine if French people are doing this to Martial, but you'd sooner praise that one than your own brother. People like you are the real problem with Nigeria

[b]Please do not vex. I know their type. I had the opportunities of being around this kind of people. They make it look that football experience is all that. For instance, I was with some footballers, some of them happened to be a sons of one of the former coaches of the Super Eagles, I will not go further to name them.

We were watching Honduras vs Nigeria in Sidney 2000.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H373UC1YzHE

I have not watched this video and I just took the link to show the incident is clear in my head since 2000.

Leon, A Honduras player (attacking midfielder, missed a penalty against Ronaldinho's Brazil in Nigeria '99.) scored a wonderful goal and these footballers said it was luck. Me and my brother asked, "how can you guys say that?" These guys did not want to agree with us. They said we should a accept their views because they have played football at top levels. Some of them played in Europe.

Trust me, I did not agree. I told them to watch the replay and watch Leon's foot. If he wanted to cross the ball from the wing, he would use his inside foot. If he wanted to score from there, he would most likely use the outside of the foot. That is how they kept quiet.

I hate that experience card. Give me the reason.[/b]

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Re: All The News About The Olympic Eagles (U-23) HERE! by Tomtoxic: 12:22am On Sep 23, 2015
you guys should chill wit the hyping jhur even if nacho z fit and injury free u don't expect him to make all d match day squads just because bony is misfiring dem dn already dey compare am to bony so fast 4getin bony's 1st season in EPL #man city is a team of world class players nacho ain't in dat class yet simple #icon z saying d bitter truth joor
Re: All The News About The Olympic Eagles (U-23) HERE! by TheGoodJoe(m): 1:09am On Sep 23, 2015
Tomtoxic:
you guys should chill wit the hyping jhur even if nacho z fit and injury free u don't expect him to make all d match day squads just because bony is misfiring dem dn already dey compare am to bony so fast 4getin bony's 1st season in EPL #man city is a team of world class players nacho ain't in dat class yet simple #icon z saying d bitter truth joor

Please which class are you talking about? Which bitter truth is Icon saying? Make your point clear. We are waiting for Icon4s to give us his reasons and you are here saying bitter truth. If the form Bony is showing at City is the class you are talking I beg you, it is nothing to write home about. If Bony continues playing the way he is playing at City, he will lose his place in the first team, squad and Man City.

Please, Bony's first season was not amazing. 16 goals in 34 league games. In that season, a young Lukaku (then 19-20 years old) on loan from Chelsea scored 15 goals in 31 league games and did better than Bony.
Re: All The News About The Olympic Eagles (U-23) HERE! by AIG07: 6:49am On Sep 23, 2015
Welldone folks... Here as really been interesting... Saluting Sir. Icon n Sir. Supernerd(ur experiences vs knowledge about d game is a pure class*smiles*)
sir. Icon's pessimistic views joined by sir. Tomtoxic against others(u know ursef) optimism about d lad(kelechi I'nacho) has kept d thread going and interestin thereby drawing crowd. Let us always remember that we're different and thereby our views will be conflicting-pls let's keep the thread healthy with constructive views- i know we all understand better.
Once again kudos to u guys- welcome back sir, tomtoxic. *biggest smiles* -takes an humble bow
Re: All The News About The Olympic Eagles (U-23) HERE! by joseph1013: 7:50am On Sep 23, 2015
Pellegrini:

"I always enjoy to see good players," he said.

"I think it is also important for our team because we had eight players injured for this game that we cannot use: Silva, Nasri, Delph, Zabaleta, Kompany, Mangala, Bony and Kelechi.

"It is an important number of players that we couldn't use. That's why it was important to win the game and important to win in the way we played."

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Re: All The News About The Olympic Eagles (U-23) HERE! by samueld0(m): 8:27am On Sep 23, 2015
Iheanacho is a superstar in "making" sure
But he's not there yet. Pls guyz he's still a wonder kid don't compare him with matured Aguero, CR7 Mesi and even lowest Borny. He will get to their status soon, but don't let us rush him
Re: All The News About The Olympic Eagles (U-23) HERE! by TheSuperNerd(m): 8:31am On Sep 23, 2015
Well, I guess that says it all doesn't it? *smiles*

Playing Iheanacho is an experimentation huh?

Can someone just take a look at the class of players Nacho was mentioned alongside as "IMPORTANT".

Well, it's ok....... Thanks Sir Joseph.


joseph1013:
Pellegrini:

"I always enjoy to see good players," he said.

"I think it is also important for our team because we had eight players injured for this game that we cannot use: Silva, Nasri, Delph, Zabaleta, Kompany, Mangala, Bony and Kelechi.

"It is an IMPORTANT number of players that we couldn't use. That's why it was important to win the game and important to win in the way we played."

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Re: All The News About The Olympic Eagles (U-23) HERE! by TheSuperNerd(m): 8:43am On Sep 23, 2015
Honestly, nobody and I mean nobody is comparing Nacho with the greats. Messi is Nacho's no.1 role model and the man city coaches see messi as the standard for him. If you read through our comments carefully, you'll understand that, summarily, we are saying "Nacho is a class act, good enough to compete regularly in the Epl. At his age he's pure jewel though he's still growing as he isn't the finished article just yet. But at the rate he's going, he can only get better and stand a good chance of surpassing the greats and emerging the best of his generation......."

So pls tell me, where's the hype in that? Does it hurt to say the truth devoid of excessive conservatism?

Our words have always been taken out of context..... It's not fair. *smiles*

samueld0:
Iheanacho is a superstar in "making" sure
But he's not there yet. Pls guyz he's still a wonder kid don't compare him with matured Aguero, CR7 Mesi and even lowest Borny. He will get to their status soon, but don't let us rush him

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Re: All The News About The Olympic Eagles (U-23) HERE! by safarigirl(f): 9:03am On Sep 23, 2015
TheGoodJoe:


[b]Please do not vex. I know their type. I had the opportunities of being around this kind of people. They make it look that football experience is all that. For instance, I was with some footballers, some of them happened to be a sons of one of the former coaches of the Super Eagles, I will not go further to name them.

We were watching Honduras vs Nigeria in Sidney 2000.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H373UC1YzHE

I have not watched this video and I just took the link to show the incident is clear in my head since 2000.

Leon, A Honduras player (attacking midfielder, missed a penalty against Ronaldinho's Brazil in Nigeria '99.) scored a wonderful goal and these footballers said it was luck. Me and my brother asked, "how can you guys say that?" These guys did not want to agree with us. They said we should a accept their views because they have played football at top levels. Some of them played in Europe.

Trust me, I did not agree. I told them to watch the replay and watch Leon's foot. If he wanted to cross the ball from the wing, he would use his inside foot. If he wanted to score from there, he would most likely use the outside of the foot. That is how they kept quiet.

I hate that experience card. Give me the reason.[/b]
I don't even care what experience he thinks he has. To me, this is just a case of old men berating young men who are set to be greater than them. All the experience he has is from a television while Kelechi is participating live. He should just end his pettiness cuz it's pissing me off

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Re: All The News About The Olympic Eagles (U-23) HERE! by TheGoodJoe(m): 9:03am On Sep 23, 2015
samueld0:
Iheanacho is a superstar in "making" sure
But he's not there yet. Pls guyz he's still a wonder kid don't compare him with matured Aguero, CR7 Mesi and even Bony. He will get to their status soon, but don't let us rush him


Who said Iheanacho is a Superstar already. I for instance said Oliseh should not call him to the Super Eagles yet so he can continue his improvement. But, compared to Bony, come on. Give Nacho 34 games and he will score more than 16 goals.

Nacho played against a top Roma team with their stars on the pitch and he did well with an assist and a goal. So you guys stop making Nacho look like one learning to trap ball. If he was not a superb player, he can never be on the bench of Man City.

Why we want him training is because we believe he has the ability to reach the very top of the game. So when you guys say not there yet, what are you saying? Man City is a team of Super stars. Demeichelis a player for Argentina at the last World Cup is on the bench. Fernando a top player and a regular for Porto is on the bench.

So Nacho being a used Substitute in the last three EPL games in such a team shows he is a top talent.
Re: All The News About The Olympic Eagles (U-23) HERE! by TheGoodJoe(m): 9:08am On Sep 23, 2015
safarigirl:
I don't even care what experience he thinks he has. To me, this is just a case of old men berating young men who are set to be greater than them. All the experience he has is from a television while Kelechi is participating live. He should just end his pettiness cuz it's pissing me off

He is a former footballer and a coach. I believe he is a person we know. I also think he is also a journalist.

I know he has something against Nacho. Something personal. Either way, Nacho will reach great heights. Higher than our legendary KANU Nwankwo who was once rated among the top ten footballers in the world.

Some think greatness is far but it is not to them that believe and work towards it.
Re: All The News About The Olympic Eagles (U-23) HERE! by safarigirl(f): 9:08am On Sep 23, 2015
Tomtoxic:
you guys should chill wit the hyping jhur even if nacho z fit and injury free u don't expect him to make all d match day squads just because bony is misfiring dem dn already dey compare am to bony so fast 4getin bony's 1st season in EPL #man city is a team of world class players nacho ain't in dat class yet simple #icon z saying d bitter truth joor
Bony, world class? How many goals e score? You people will just be abusing that word up and down. Do you know who a world class player is abi na EPL dey confuse you? Bony wouldn't even make 3rd choice striker in Barca or either of the Madrids, he wouldn't cut it in Germany, so what is 'world class' about that?

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