oyinnene:
Thanks. Pls what do u mean by specific too? Or do u mean specific tool?

he was teasing you. @ that age it is going tobe difficult. This is due to competition from guys who re younger and who did not fail promotion exams and have clean records. It however depends too on your corps e.g. Medical corps and above all God because promotion neither comes from the east nor from west but from God

@oyinene. Doctors tend to graduate at 26 and 27. Plus all this extra requirements will make peep 28/29 before entering. As a lawyer who graduated at 25 plus 2 years minimum experience makes you 27 and not all peep get shortlisted into their first attempt. The factors re endless. Though the age is not on ur side but run your own race and leave the rest to God.

Thanks a bunch General Oluseye

I know of a lieutenant ** who joined the Nigeria army in 2008 though through the band, he was a Boys Brigade band boy before he was enrolled, now check it out, from 2008 to now 2015 how many years is it? I believe to be commissioned could also depends on ur personal quality.
Because this very fellow is very good in drills and band, and all these were counted to him as an advantage. Pease!

dmajesticjoe:
@Marcus, the Army will not recorgnize any certificate u have bt fail to declare or tender at the point of entry. Ur conversion will be based on post entry qualifications. I salute ur courage bt u really need to knw what is at stake. However, that is better than ending up as a civilian.

pls sorry sir, I did not understand you ' the Army will not recorgnize any certificate u have bt fail to declare or tender at the point of entry. Ur conversion will be based on post entry qualifications'.

Generaloluseye:
@Marcus. Odinmbanamdi has said it all. U seems to like the military very well. There re some of my friends here on this thread who have contemplated that. though it was you who took a bold step of action. It however mostly depends on your commanding officer and God on your side. I ll advice that you go and see things there for your self and wait to see whether you ll be shortlisted finally for training. Between then and now, you can now think thoroughly about it and seek for more advice.

thank you sir

odimbannamdi:


if i were to be asked this question: "of all the aspirants on nairaland who really really wants the serve the country under the army?" i would say "Marcus013"

Your zeal is admirable. While most of us are waiting to achieve the enviable post of officer cadets, you are already climbing the army ladder by first becoming a soldier (strictly speaking). kudos!

being a soldier affords you 2 chances at becoming a commissioned officer.

1. with the blessing and approval of your commander (who will sign your attestation document and probably give you a "written note" to tender to the recruitment officers if u have been a good soldier to him), you can easily be shortlisted to become an officer cadet

2. As a soldier, you can be fortunate enough to run professional courses in army accredited higher institutions such as Medical school in Ojo barracks, Nursing school in Yaba, Ordinance school, Accounting school etc, that will give you better chances at becoming an officer.

you have to be extremely loyal to your commanders si they can recommend u.

But i must be very blunt with you. The life of a soldier is not a rosy one at all. Your pride, ego and person will be trampled and stepped upon. especially as a rating, officers and even soldiers higher than u will regard u as a nobody, a piece of thrash. you will get locked up at the slightest offence. Most times, newly recruited soldiers head to battlefield from the training camps. some of them get killed without seeing their loved ones as a military personnell.

Are you ready to cope with all that??

If yes, then go ahead. be humble and extremely loyal to your superiors and sky will be your springboard!

Thank you sir

Mr Marcus013, You seem to be very passionate so I will advice you to the best of my ability.
What previous posters meant by post entry qualifications is that the Nigerian Army will not recognize your university degree u earned before u became a soldier. U would have to get another degree to become an officer. For some of us who are over 26 already and spent 6 years plus in the University, we would prefer to serve in positions where our potentials would be valued.
Also, please endeavour to find out the success rate of conversion from NCO cadre to Lieutenant among the thousands of grads in the army presently.
In my honest evaluation, these senior officers will rather help civilians/family to get in than NCO.
Nigerian army places little value on her soldiers. Only officers are treated well. Don't be deceived by the subterfuge.
However if you have taken all the factors/variables into consideration and you feel going in as a soldier will turn out well, I wish you well. God knows I would have too but... **sighs**

Very well said....even as a serving corps member I could enter the Officer's mess to buy drinks or just chill and watch football matches of course just because I was graduate....well after service there is no other way to prove u re than to become an officer unless u want to carry ur discharge cert anytym u want to enter there...ridiculous!....Soldiers are not allowed there except they re assigned to serve drinks or clean the place...my man just imagine they could ask you to do that....one or two of the very soldiers that drilled me during our camping served me drinks...there was ds really cute gallant Lcpl though,:it would ve bn nice to bleep her..Lol
.just kidding. what am tryna say is....its not worth it!!

I have diligently followed this thread from its very first page up till this point. Foremostly, I feel obliged to acknowledge and appreciate the input of Ehissi, OdimbaNnamdi, GeneralOluseye, VanUrch and Mimzy007 who I have observed the be the sole active female participant on this thread. You'll never understand the extent to which you have impacted on my knowledge and understanding of the workings of the Nigerian Army.

Like everyone else, I have been waiting patiently for the announcement of forms. Honestly, I have come to treasure this thread as a more reliable source of info than other bogus websites or informants. It is impossible for forms to be on sale without the knowledge and awareness of somebody or everybody on this thread.

The Army will enlist. Sooner or later. It's a thing of passion. I think the way to go is to ensure readiness in every ramification. Like my brother Ehissi said some pages back, fitness of mind and body are paramount. That's where the real competition is. No matter how connected you are, the Army will never compromise on fitness requirements.

At a time like this when our country is battling the security challenges of BH and co, it's hard not to admire the enthusiasm and zeal of all of us on here who apparently are more concerned about ultimate service to fatherland than about our personal comfort or safety. We all know what we're about signing up for. It's way beyond the pay. The experience and tremendous improvement of character that joining a service such as the army will bring to us, to me, extends beyond whatever financial emoluments we may look forward to. Of course, no officer is financially uncomfortable.

I don't have any info pertaining to the release of forms. What I have is the assurance that they'll come on sale eventually and I wish every prospective officer cadet here all the available Goodluck. In the interim, don't slow down on your fitness routines. You'll be the eventual beneficiary.

Just felt guilty about reading all the time and never posting anything lol. Good morning people.

Quick Question(s) Ehissi: On an earlier post which veracity I have verified, I observed that DSSC officers may obtain a conversion to DRC. This doesn't make them eligible to attain the apex rank as RC (including SSC converted officers) will always be favourites to hold such combat commandeering posts as COAS et al. Honestly, I don't fancy myself consciously applying for a role where I'm certain I can't compete for the peak. I was 23 in June. This makes me ineligible for SSC, but eligible for DSSC should forms be announced today. As a qualified lawyer, and having fulfilled the requirements of NYSC discharge and 2 years post call experience, is it possible or plausible to still apply to join the Army through the SSC as it appears like the only real chance to get to the top? Would I be kicked out merely for applying though the SSC as against DSSC? Will I be denied every benefit that may accrue to lawyers such as the 3 months seniority from rank of Lt. ** by virtue of my decision to apply through SSC (assuming I am selected in spite of my age deficit)? Or would I just be treated normally like all SSC applicants and be granted the rank of 2nd Lt. * on commission rather than Lt. ** like my other colleagues who may come through DSSC? I would prefer this so long as I'm eventually presented with a chance to fight for the top. Going in with the assurance that I'll never be qualified to head the Army is quite demoralising lol.

@Austin Ogbolu.

Just like you, i would be 23 this year (by October precisely), but i have never had any second thought about joining the army through the SSC as regards age restrictions.

The minimum age requirements for the SSC is 24years. But, this requirement is not always strictly adhered too compared to the maximum age requirement. As long as you are a graduate who is fit intellectually and physically, they prefer you being younger than older. However, in some instances where they are too many over-qualified candidates, they may resort to using age to screen people out.

i pray it doesnt happen to us.

Talking about DSSC,

i also dont fancy the idea of gunning for something in which i would be regarded as inferior to compete for the apex positions despite having age on side and being fit in all ramifications

thats why they offer DSSC guys mouth-watering incentives like lesser training period, higher rank, exception from intense combat and promotion without examination.

But i heard from an unarguable source that its very possible for DSSC guys to convert to the Direct Regular Commission (DRC) after fulfilling certain requirements enabling them to now compete for such positions.

austinogbolu:
Quick Question(s) Ehissi: On an earlier post which veracity I have verified, I observed that DSSC officers may obtain a conversion to DRC. This doesn't make them eligible to attain the apex rank as RC (including SSC converted officers) will always be favourites to hold such combat commandeering posts as COAS et al. Honestly, I don't fancy myself consciously applying for a role where I'm certain I can't compete for the peak. I was 23 in June. This makes me ineligible for SSC, but eligible for DSSC should forms be announced today. As a qualified lawyer, and having fulfilled the requirements of NYSC discharge and 2 years post call experience, is it possible or plausible to still apply to join the Army through the SSC as it appears like the only real chance to get to the top? Would I be kicked out merely for applying though the SSC as against DSSC? Will I be denied every benefit that may accrue to lawyers such as the 3 months seniority from rank of Lt. ** by virtue of my decision to apply through SSC (assuming I am selected in spite of my age deficit)? Or would I just be treated normally like all SSC applicants and be granted the rank of 2nd Lt. * on commission rather than Lt. ** like my other colleagues who may come through DSSC? I would prefer this so long as I'm eventually presented with a chance to fight for the top. Going in with the assurance that I'll never be qualified to head the Army is quite demoralising lol.

I almost didn't answer this question but somehow I saw what looked like a reply that wasn't adequate hence I was moved to do do!!

The DSSC and SSC are actually called short service commissions for a reason - because they were meant to be short - you are never meant to be there for long .According to terms of service, the tenure for the DSSC is 10years after which you are meant to leave, the tenure for the SSC is 6years after which you are expected to leave!!

When you intend to stay beyond the tenure of each commission - say for example DSSC - you are expected to apply for conversion to a regular commission which is equivalent to an application for extension of service at that level!! DSSC get converted to Direct Regular Commission while SSC get converted to Regular Commission.

DSSC just get to fill a form and that's it, you are now DRC!! SSC get to go through a couple of drills before they are deemed worthy to cross to the Regular Commission!!

According to the "Standard", DRC can attain any rank in any armed force except the Apex rank or a rank that demand fierce or executive command of combat troops - which in the case of army is Major - General !! But the "General idea" is that Brigadier General is your last bus stop for now based on some factors that exist in the military which I have discussed earlier on this forum!!

According to the "Standard", SSC converted RC can attain attain any rank in the army - notice I said army because only the army can afford to sponsor a Short Service Commission for now - including the Apex rank or any rank that demands executive command of combat troops!! The "General Idea" for SSC converted RC is supposed to be like 5 different threads on Nairaland!

I know many folks will not accept what I am about to say next but..........I will say it anyway!!

The Senior NDA RC always protect upcoming NDA RC and Favour them as well!! Age, Political appointment, Stringent PD -punishment duty- is always against SSC RC!!

At a time, promotion is always warfare for SSC, sometimes they use young SSC officers to perform field duties that are expected for experienced NDA RC's to perform!! they will rather make a young inexperienced NDA RC an OC PASS in a unit than a more experienced DSSC officer and then send the DSSC or SSC to go and face book haram!! Ordinarily promotion to lieutenant - which is 2 ** - from 2nd lieutenant - which is 1* - is supposed to be 18 months! I know cases of officers on their 24th month with no sign of that happening who have not seen home in 2 years, either they are in Sudan or are nominated to go to Congo and submit parade!!

The greatest enemy of the SSC is always age, that's why the army sets the peg at 24 because lower that that may make you an actual worthy competitor to the NDA RC's!!

The fiercest competitors of SSC RC's are NDA RC's and the love lost between these two category of officers is old news!!

Note however that there are also factors that work in Favour of SSC officers which include the unit they in or posted to - larger units, divisions, HQ, always have a tendency for ensuring you get your dues as at when due as opposed to smaller units - also the leaders of your unit as well as the general socio-political atmosphere of the army par time is another factor!!

But there are those who are fortunate to escape "Culprit lists" and don't see any of these ills but they still exist!!

lawyers will always be encourage to take the DSC route because you will enjoy your time there a lot better than the SSC because they always accord seniority to them as professionals under the DSSC!,

SSC doesn't take your degree into account and just load of all you into infantry corps, all share the same rank and same level of seniority!! Even if you join SSC with your PHD, you are still assume the rank of 2nd lieutenant!! Only time when your degree can be to may matter - that window of opportunity is so slim that it's is almost impossible to pass through without God himself handling your file - is if you choose to apply for a change of trade after you get conversion to RC say you want to move from infantry to legal!!

This type of change will almost never be accepted by a typical NDA RC plus it must take into account some new qualification that you have achieved in addition to what you used to join the army via SSC!! SSC usually don't get that breathing space outside training, field combat Ops or foreign peace keeping Ops so it is never heard that such a move was made but such a move is covered by the "Standard"...

ehissi, ur comment was deleted

Exactly...Lol guys to be safe they should leave it till next year....a lot of 23yr old guys here....I don't wanna get to the screening, pass every hurdle and medical test but get dropped cos of age....the rule sed u must be 24 before d beginning of the programme ...there is always a stiff competition each year so they are always looking for the easiest xcuse to drop someone ....mehn I can't stand that...not when I was that close ....
And again if u apply for SSC with ur LLB qualifications automatically u will treated the same way with A Bsc home management holder....no offence..just saying.I don't really know if u can convert..but I doubt they will train you for combat and send u to court martial..sure the professionals are commissioned as Lt. but their chances of promotion are limited compared to a combatant..a combatant can simply gt promoted after a peace keeping mission even if he was promoted right before the assignment so u can get to the very top and faster....I want that too plus age is on our side so if God keeps us alive ,we will get there....

Well, on the issue of SSC and DSSC, even though it's possible for RC'S who joined through SSC to be COAS and CDS, hw many persons have achieved that? Lt. Gen. Bamaiyi is the only one in d history of NA to attain d rank of Lt Gen and COAS, no one has gone beyond that simply because d direct RC'S won't let u. The competition is too much and they will always dominate because they are in charge. Hw many RC'S hold d so called command positions? Hw many of them have ever commanded a division except one Major General from Lagos who commanded the 1st mechanized infantry division. the NDA RC'S see d military as their birth right and it's a big challenge for our category. Before Gen Ihejirika's time, only abt 5% of SS combatants were converted to RC'S in each course, the rest are retired as major after just 10 years of service. Even those converted hardly become Generals. I was going through their terms of service not quiet long and I saw that. It's not the case now, if u pass ur Lt to Capt exam now, u will be converted bt the thing is that anybody can still bring it up because it's documented in their terms and conditions of service. now, the DSSC ppl enjoy almost automatic conversion. They don't have to compete much with d NDA RC'S because they dominate their corps. For instance, there is no RC in medicine, education, chaplaincy etc so no one compete with them. They have their own appointment for Generals and they can also be PSO's in AHQ and DHQ. looking at d structure, it's much easier to attain d prestigious rank of General through DSSC and that's the peak of military career, u mustn't be Chief to be fulfilled, it's a mere political appointment and u can get any other even after retirement. I don't mind joining through any of them because they all have their pro and Co's.

mustiusman:


Bro for SSC , you're over age, it 24-29 years of age, so you need to reduce your age to suit you but make sure you do that wisely, for dssc, if your course is advertised, you're in, it 22-35. All the best

Pls hw do I reduce my age cos my primary school certificate already have my age, likewise my WAEC result, hw should I prepare my affidavit

NB: I will be 31yrs by next year

ehissi:

I almost didn't answer this question but somehow I saw what looked like a reply that wasn't adequate hence I was moved to do do!!
The DSSC and SSC are actually called short service commissions for a reason - because they were meant to be short - you are never meant to be there for long .According to terms of service, the tenure for the DSSC is 10years after which you are meant to leave, the tenure for the SSC is 6years after which you are expected to leave!!
When you intend to stay beyond the tenure of each commission - say for example DSSC - you are expected to apply for conversion to a regular commission which is equivalent to an application for extension of service at that level!! DSSC get converted to Direct Regular Commission while SSC get converted to Regular Commission.
DSSC just get to fill a form and that's it, you are now DRC!! SSC get to go through a couple of drills before they are deemed worthy to cross to the Regular Commission!!
According to the "Standard", DRC can attain any rank in any armed force except the Apex rank or a rank that demand fierce or executive command of combat troops - which in the case of army is Major - General !! But the "General idea" is that Brigadier General is your last bus stop for now based on some factors that exist in the military which I have discussed earlier on this forum!!
According to the "Standard", SSC converted RC can attain attain any rank in the army - notice I said army because only the army can afford to sponsor a Short Service Commission for now - including the Apex rank or any rank that demands executive command of combat troops!! The "General Idea" for SSC converted RC is supposed to be like 5 different threads on Nairaland!
I know many folks will not accept what I am about to say next but..........I will say it anyway!!
The Senior NDA RC always protect upcoming NDA RC and Favour them as well!! Age, Political appointment, Stringent PD -punishment duty- is always against RC!!
At a time, promotion is always warfare for SSC, sometimes they use young SSC officers to perform field duties that are expected for experienced NDA RC's to perform!! they will rather make a young inexperienced NDA RC an OC PASS in a unit than a more experienced DSSC officer and then send the DSSC or SSC to go and face book haram!! Ordinarily promotion to lieutenant - which is 2 ** - from 2nd lieutenant - which is 1* - is supposed to be 18 months! I know cases of officers on their 24th month with no sign of that happening who have not seen home in 2 years, either they are in Sudan or are nominated to go to Congo and submit parade!!
The greatest enemy of the SSC is always age, that's why the army sets the peg at 24 because lower that that may make you an actual worthy competitor to the NDA RC's!!
The fiercest competitors of SSC RC's are NDA RC's and the love lost between these two category of officers is old news!!
Note however that there are also factors that work in Favour of SSC officers which include the unit they in or posted to - larger units, divisions, HQ, always have a tendency for ensuring you get your dues as at when due as opposed to smaller units - also the leaders of your unit as well as the general socio-political atmosphere of the army par time is another factor!!
But there are those who are fortunate to escape "Culprit lists" and don't see any of these ills but they still exist!!
lawyers will always be encourage to take the DSC route because you will enjoy your time there a lot better than the SSC because they always accord seniority to them as professionals under the DSSC!,
SSC doesn't take your degree into account and just load of all you into infantry corps, all share the same rank and same level of seniority!! Even if you join SSC with your PHD, you are still assume the rank of 2nd lieutenant!! Only time when your degree can be to may matter - that window of opportunity is so slim that it's is almost impossible to pass through without God himself handling your file - is if you choose to apply for a change of trade after you get conversion to RC say you want to move from infantry to legal!!
This type of change will almost never be accepted by a typical NDA RC plus it must take into account some new qualification that you have achieved in addition to what you used to join the army via SSC!! SSC usually don't get that breathing space outside training, field combat Ops or foreign peace keeping Ops so it is never heard that such a move was made but such a move is covered by the "Standard"...
Very informative....the level of information at your disposal marvels me....I must commend your effort.....Thank you

odimbannamdi:
ehissi, ur comment was deleted

I think he was modifying it then... its right there...

ehissi:


I almost didn't answer this question but somehow I saw what looked like a reply that wasn't adequate hence I was moved to do do!!

The DSSC and SSC are actually called short service commissions for a reason - because they were meant to be short - you are never meant to be there for long .According to terms of service, the tenure for the DSSC is 10years after which you are meant to leave, the tenure for the SSC is 6years after which you are expected to leave!!

When you intend to stay beyond the tenure of each commission - say for example DSSC - you are expected to apply for conversion to a regular commission which is equivalent to an application for extension of service at that level!! DSSC get converted to Direct Regular Commission while SSC get converted to Regular Commission.

DSSC just get to fill a form and that's it, you are now DRC!! SSC get to go through a couple of drills before they are deemed worthy to cross to the Regular Commission!!

According to the "Standard", DRC can attain any rank in any armed force except the Apex rank or a rank that demand fierce or executive command of combat troops - which in the case of army is Major - General !! But the "General idea" is that Brigadier General is your last bus stop for now based on some factors that exist in the military which I have discussed earlier on this forum!!

According to the "Standard", SSC converted RC can attain attain any rank in the army - notice I said army because only the army can afford to sponsor a Short Service Commission for now - including the Apex rank or any rank that demands executive command of combat troops!! The "General Idea" for SSC converted RC is supposed to be like 5 different threads on Nairaland!

I know many folks will not accept what I am about to say next but..........I will say it anyway!!

The Senior NDA RC always protect upcoming NDA RC and Favour them as well!! Age, Political appointment, Stringent PD -punishment duty- is always against RC!!

At a time, promotion is always warfare for SSC, sometimes they use young SSC officers to perform field duties that are expected for experienced NDA RC's to perform!! they will rather make a young inexperienced NDA RC an OC PASS in a unit than a more experienced DSSC officer and then send the DSSC or SSC to go and face book haram!! Ordinarily promotion to lieutenant - which is 2 ** - from 2nd lieutenant - which is 1* - is supposed to be 18 months! I know cases of officers on their 24th month with no sign of that happening who have not seen home in 2 years, either they are in Sudan or are nominated to go to Congo and submit parade!!

The greatest enemy of the SSC is always age, that's why the army sets the peg at 24 because lower that that may make you an actual worthy competitor to the NDA RC's!!

The fiercest competitors of SSC RC's are NDA RC's and the love lost between these two category of officers is old news!!

Note however that there are also factors that work in Favour of SSC officers which include the unit they in or posted to - larger units, divisions, HQ, always have a tendency for ensuring you get your dues as at when due as opposed to smaller units - also the leaders of your unit as well as the general socio-political atmosphere of the army par time is another factor!!

But there are those who are fortunate to escape "Culprit lists" and don't see any of these ills but they still exist!!

lawyers will always be encourage to take the DSC route because you will enjoy your time there a lot better than the SSC because they always accord seniority to them as professionals under the DSSC!,

SSC doesn't take your degree into account and just load of all you into infantry corps, all share the same rank and same level of seniority!! Even if you join SSC with your PHD, you are still assume the rank of 2nd lieutenant!! Only time when your degree can be to may matter - that window of opportunity is so slim that it's is almost impossible to pass through without God himself handling your file - is if you choose to apply for a change of trade after you get conversion to RC say you want to move from infantry to legal!!

This type of change will almost never be accepted by a typical NDA RC plus it must take into account some new qualification that you have achieved in addition to what you used to join the army via SSC!! SSC usually don't get that breathing space outside training, field combat Ops or foreign peace keeping Ops so it is never heard that such a move was made but such a move is covered by the "Standard"...

Very informative... But DRC officers attain the rank of Major General. They can go beyond Brig Gen.

Thanks people. I'm better informed now.

marcus013:
pls general, how possible could that be for me being a degree holder to enter recruit and later convert to SSC. Cus I have been shortlisted already!

You will need to serve at least 10 years before you can apply!! Note that you will find out that its a very difficult task because you will need the approval of your commander to go and you will find a long list of people already queuing up before you who have done as much as 15yrs in the service but no luck!!

Also, the amount of years you serve as an NCO - which is a soldier - will be added to the number of years you will serve as an officer!! Most people in this category never move beyond the rank of Lieutenant colonel if they are even lucky to get there, Most end up retired as Majors (because of age, promotion delay and other factors)!!

I will never advise it because you have chosen the difficult path!! Also a condition for going for SSC or DSSC as a soldier is that your qualification must be "Mustered" into your record before you can apply (meaning you first have to officially present your degree to the Military as part of your academic record)! You are not allowed to pursue any academic endeavour without your commanders permission and "backward mustering" is never easy!! I know NCO that have Masters, PHD trying to jump backward mustering and at the end of the day, commander on gree for them to apply for DSSC

Its is far easy to do this as an Airforce personnel and even at that, age must be on your side! Most people who do this, do it with consent from a strong Godfathger before they even carry form and not after!!

Is it possible to do it and still make it, Yes!! Is it easy, No!! Infact it is easier for a civilian to get into DSSC from outside than an NCO to get DSSC from Inside!!

You can give it a shot, but I will never advise! If you do, one thing is certain you go pray sotay!!! Plus you will remember I told you so!!

Plus, being loyal to a commander/commandant is a function of if you are even working in the commander or commandant's office - which is a very high priviledge for a soldier, done based on man know man basis or most times based on tribal sentiments; meaning Igbo commander all trusted aides are igbo - it is not easy to get a job there! In any case, commanders are rotated on a yearly basis, maximum 2yrs they are reposted! So if the commander leaves, new commander may throw you out and pick fresh crew based on his own criterion!!

So unless you have a very strong burning will that can stand the pressures of the job as a soldier - which is a shitty life compared to that of an officer - go; if not don't put yourself in a trap with your own money Ooh!!

dmajesticjoe:

Very informative... But DRC officers attain the rank of Major General. They can go beyond Brig Gen.

The answer to this question is clearly tackled in my first comment on this particular link and page in Nairaland where I clearly distinguished the difference between the standard and the general idea!!


https://www.nairaland.com/717537/what-fastest-way-rise-rank/4

Pasted below is a comment I made in a different thread; I am pasting here to help some folks understand better when I use words like the standard or the general idea; or in the event that you hear words in a military environment like "That's just the general idea" or "That's the Standard" or "My friend, what the standard??"

"I have seen a lot of mis-information so far reviewing this thread - the bulk of it I deem un-intentional while the rest is just plain comedy - the errors/misinformation are largely based on what is called "The Standard" in a Nigerian military environ.

"The Standard" refers to the terms and conditions of services as well as the bulk of what is contained in the armed forces act of 1990.

There is also a social terminology in military environments called "The General Idea"!

The General Idea is just the actual realities that exists in the military that are a deviation from the standard condition of service but are still covered by the armed forces act in some way!!

An example;

According to the conditions of service, DSSC are deemed non-combatant officers (or professional officers) that are suited for administrative purposes and are not meant for actual warfare - this is The Standard !!

The General Idea is that DSSC Officers and Soldiers undergo the same training, in the first cycle of Recruitment called the BMTC -Basic Military Training Course - which runs for 6months, also the Armed forces act allows ample room for the Chief of any military arm to use personnel for any purpose in the event of a security situation.

Therefore, DSSC officers can be deemed prepared to face combat immediately after they are commissioned (since both they and soldiers do the BMTC and soldiers are deemed combat ready).

They are not only sent into combat, but are also drafted into the Infantry division/corps of the Army as well as the airforce (The airforce call their own infantry wing/corps regiment/air crew).

From experience, people who may fall into this category are usually very tall or buffy/muscular looking in appearance and have an appearance that seems to command attention physically!!!! I know many of such cases mathematician, accountants etc who were guilty of looking too gallant for the office and so they were drafted into infantry immediately - even though they came through DSSC.

Now DSSC training is 6/7 months, for those who are drafted into Infantry/regiment from DSSC, because DSSC does not cover in its entirety infantry/regiment related training they are sent for further training courses - 100% of the time overseas to countries like belarus, israel etc- to help them fit into the Infantry division/corps better!!

But for DSSC officers that are sent to combat, but are members of a corps/department outside the infantry, nothing for them; highest they will be briefed by their new CO's (or officers under the authority of their CO's) or much more experienced officers in there respective units on what is expected from them in the course of combat!!

Another Example;
All officers whether they came in through the RC of the NDA or the DSSC or SSC can attain the rank of a 2-Star general or VSO (Major-general, Air -vice Marshal, Rear Admiral for army, airforce and navy) - this is the standard!!

The General Idea is that DSSC are deemed (no matter the amount of training you want to give them or the corps you put them) not in a position to command troops at an "executive" level - this is by reason of the Armed forces law!!

This why no STF/JTF commander or service chiefs within the individual armed forces like The GOC's, FOC's or the AOC for army navy and airforce will be a DSSC officer - no matter how many training or war you make the DSSC officer fight.

Also the VSO, Very Senior Officer's Ranks (which is from Colonel upwards in army, Captain upwards in Navy, Group captain upwards in Airforce) have limited slot (which usually must be filled with equity and federal character in mind; though this is not always the case).

Also these are usually the recommended ranks approved by the Armed forces council and the respected councils of the individual armed forces for officers to hold who must command troops at certain executive levels as well as for certain strategic appointments!!

Because of the current size and capacity of our military, what usually happens is that you may have 400 people due for the rank of Colonel; 110 are RC, regular commission (either through NDA or SSC) while 290 are from DSSC and the appointment requiring executive command of troop throughout the army at the level of colonel are 60; the ones that don't require this are 20; so how do they promote!!

The DSSC will always get the short end of the stick and it gets tighter at higher ranks like brigadier general and Major general!!

Plus the bulk of the offices at the level
of Major General require executive command of troops; the ones that don't, will be filled by officers who enjoy sympathy of their colleagues and coursemates that went through the NDA - who hold executive appointments within the military - so because of this, the usual last bus-stop of DSSC officers is Brigadier General - and that is with Favour with both men and God!! Usually Lieutenant Colonel and Colonel is the where most DSSC officers are retired!!

The Standard says DSSC can achieve Major-General but the General Idea is that the last bus stop is Brigadier General!!!

This is where people make mistakes about the military; looking at recruitment related documents most times display the standard, the general idea can only be seen on ground! Either by living in an military environment and carefully observing things like military orders at Provost/MP's, asking question amongst friends/family who are personnel or even taking up a casual Job at a military installation or being a personnel yourself!!"

please when is nigerian army dssc form be out

olumideefe:
please when is nigerian army dssc form be out

Wait ooo...you ve not picked yours?...it came out since last year naa

ehissi:
Pasted below is a comment I made in a different thread; I am pasting here to help some folks understand better when I use words like the standard or the general idea; or in the event that you hear words in a military environment like "That's just the general idea" or "That's the Standard" or "My friend, what the standard??"

"I have seen a lot of mis-information so far reviewing this thread - the bulk of it I deem un-intentional while the rest is just plain comedy - the errors/misinformation are largely based on what is called "The Standard" in a Nigerian military environ.

"The Standard" refers to the terms and conditions of services as well as the bulk of what is contained in the armed forces act of 1990.

There is also a social terminology in military environments called "The General Idea"!

The General Idea is just the actual realities that exists in the military that are a deviation from the standard condition of service but are still covered by the armed forces act in some way!!

An example;

According to the conditions of service, DSSC are deemed non-combatant officers (or professional officers) that are suited for administrative purposes and are not meant for actual warfare - this is The Standard !!

The General Idea is that DSSC Officers and Soldiers undergo the same training, in the first cycle of Recruitment called the BMTC -Basic Military Training Course - which runs for 6months, also the Armed forces act allows ample room for the Chief of any military arm to use personnel for any purpose in the event of a security situation.

Therefore, DSSC officers can be deemed prepared to face combat immediately after they are commissioned (since both they and soldiers do the BMTC and soldiers are deemed combat ready).

They are not only sent into combat, but are also drafted into the Infantry division/corps of the Army as well as the airforce (The airforce call their own infantry wing/corps regiment/air crew).

From experience, people who may fall into this category are usually very tall or buffy/muscular looking in appearance and have an appearance that seems to command attention physically!!!! I know many of such cases mathematician, accountants etc who were guilty of looking too gallant for the office and so they were drafted into infantry immediately - even though they came through DSSC.

Now DSSC training is 6/7 months, for those who are drafted into Infantry/regiment from DSSC, because DSSC does not cover in its entirety infantry/regiment related training they are sent for further training courses - 100% of the time overseas to countries like belarus, israel etc- to help them fit into the Infantry division/corps better!!

But for DSSC officers that are sent to combat, but are members of a corps/department outside the infantry, nothing for them; highest they will be briefed by their new CO's (or officers under the authority of their CO's) or much more experienced officers in there respective units on what is expected from them in the course of combat!!

Another Example;
All officers whether they came in through the RC of the NDA or the DSSC or SSC can attain the rank of a 2-Star general or VSO (Major-general, Air -vice Marshal, Rear Admiral for army, airforce and navy) - this is the standard!!

The General Idea is that DSSC are deemed (no matter the amount of training you want to give them or the corps you put them) not in a position to command troops at an "executive" level - this is by reason of the Armed forces law!!

This why no STF/JTF commander or service chiefs within the individual armed forces like The GOC's, FOC's or the AOC for army navy and airforce will be a DSSC officer - no matter how many training or war you make the DSSC officer fight.

Also the VSO, Very Senior Officer's Ranks (which is from Colonel upwards in army, Captain upwards in Navy, Group captain upwards in Airforce) have limited slot (which usually must be filled with equity and federal character in mind; though this is not always the case).

Also these are usually the recommended ranks approved by the Armed forces council and the respected councils of the individual armed forces for officers to hold who must command troops at certain executive levels as well as for certain strategic appointments!!

Because of the current size and capacity of our military, what usually happens is that you may have 400 people due for the rank of Colonel; 110 are RC, regular commission (either through NDA or SSC) while 290 are from DSSC and the appointment requiring executive command of troop throughout the army at the level of colonel are 60; the ones that don't require this are 20; so how do they promote!!

The DSSC will always get the short end of the stick and it gets tighter at higher ranks like brigadier general and Major general!!

Plus the bulk of the offices at the level
of Major General require executive command of troops; the ones that don't, will be filled by officers who enjoy sympathy of their colleagues and coursemates that went through the NDA - who hold executive appointments within the military - so because of this, the usual last bus-stop of DSSC officers is Brigadier General - and that is with Favour with both men and God!! Usually Lieutenant Colonel and Colonel is the where most DSSC officers are retired!!

The Standard says DSSC can achieve Major-General but the General Idea is that the last bus stop is Brigadier General!!!

This is where people make mistakes about the military; looking at recruitment related documents most times display the standard, the general idea can only be seen on ground! Either by living in an military environment and carefully observing things like military orders at Provost/MP's, asking question amongst friends/family who are personnel or even taking up a casual Job at a military installation or being a personnel yourself!!"

Very clear now. Pls what is the situation like in the Navy and Airforce since they don't have SSC.

dmajesticjoe:

Very clear now. Pls what is the situation like in the Navy and Airforce since they don't have SSC.

the Airforce and the Navy only do DSSC for now.
bt in the the navy there is SD Special Duty. this commission is reserved for naval ratings with very good and NEEDED qualifications only. the duration for NN DSSC as at d last batch was 9 months but rumors has it dat it will be reduced to six months. while d Airforce DSSC is 5-6 Months.

elemhusny:


the Airforce and the Navy only do DSSC for now.
bt in the the navy there is SD Special Duty. this commission is reserved for naval ratings with very good and NEEDED qualifications only. the duration for NN DSSC as at d last batch was 9 months but rumors has it dat it will be reduced to six months. while d Airforce DSSC is 5-6 Months.

I mean the promotion/appointment issues he rightly talked about as regards the Army. I want to know is the case is exactly the same for NN and NAF since they don't have SSC. what is the possibility of a Naval Education personnel attaining the rank of Rear Admiral for instance.

A lot of stories, too bulky to be read all at once. Form will be out by next year, so keep the whole worries aside and do other stuffs. Thanks

dmajesticjoe:

I mean the promotion/appointment issues he rightly talked about as regards the Army. I want to know is the case is exactly the same for NN and NAF since they don't have SSC. what is the possibility of a Naval Education personnel attaining the rank of Rear Admiral for instance.

i know of a DSSC naval eng'g officer who retired after attaining the rank of rear admiral. so why not if age is by your side.....bt i dont think you will hold a key appiontment.