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The Hydra Of Religion by menesheh(m): 12:27pm On Sep 26, 2015
For millennia, billions have believed with just as much conviction that their religions, the gods in their pantheons, were the only paths to truth. As time passed, new religions were invented, and the religions of antiquity drifted into mythology. The religions of the current age are no different. Eventually, they will fade into obscurity, and will be viewed in the same way we today view the ancient Norse and Egyptian religions—as relics of unenlightened ages. Is it not a remarkable coincidence that out of the thousands of religions that have existed, your religion, the one you were born into out of good fortune, is the only true one? Does it strike you as odd that most deities, as depicted in paintings and architecture, invariably resemble their followers?

Just as new heads were said to sprout from the decapitated body of the Greek Hydra, new religions and offshoots will always emerge from the remnants of dead religions. Religions not only endure because of childhood indoctrination, but also because they provide an alluring solution for those who desire an afterlife, a chance to reunite with their deceased loved ones. Our fear of our own mortality is the kindling for the roaring inferno of religious belief.

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Re: The Hydra Of Religion by johnydon22(m): 1:07pm On Sep 26, 2015
[b]Religion like i have always said is a very important aspect of human development, it helped and marred humans.

One of the disturbing traits of religion is that is makes people to be comfortable with not knowing.

It makes people to be contented with ignorance and kills the curiosity in the minds of people.

If this traits as above stuck with humanity we would still have been riding horses now and think Hurricanes are because the God neptune is pissed off at mankind.

Religion thrives on dogmas that should never be questioned but rather believed by Faith which basically means whether it is true or not.

If man believes things by "Faith" and not evidence i wonder the kind of simpletons humans would still be by now, wonder where our enquiries would have led us because nobody would ever act on them.

If anybody really thinks "Faith" should be the basis of deduction and conviction and not evidence then am afraid such minds are redundant to a society because such minds won't be open to new facts but rather are vulnerable to any dogma, whim or ludicrous coercion around.

I wonder how 21st century beings honestly think it is fine to believe a postulation on faith and not evidence or what some ancient book said or what some one told you that you must believe., this idea is as ludicrous as it is absurd.

Such convictions kills the curiosity in man and the drive to know and there will be no freedom of thought because a mind that thrives on faith will be caught by its faith into inconsistency and untruths because they will not be able to discard false assertions or beliefs when evidence against them comes along or possess rigidity of mind it takes to accept an assertion based on evidence that goes contrary to their conviction.

That is why knowledge always seem to be the greatest enemy of "Faith". Study do not aim to establish immutable truths or eternal unchanging and unquestionable dogmas.

No, study aims to approach the truth through successive approximations without claiming at any stage that final and complete accuracy has been achieved.

This we saw in the recent change of solar system members by the astronomical body, if science worked like religious dogma, they would maintain the planets are 9 and can never change even when further discoveries speaks contrary to this.

This is why you would see a religionist deny scientific facts in order to hold still to their convictions based on emotional tilt.

This is why i always maintained that i'd rather base my confidence on Reason, logic and study than base it on "Faith" which by definition is blind.

Clinging on stoic convictions of assertions that are laid out against reason and is supposed to be defended against reason. .

There is no reason to believe it at all if it is supposed to be believed by faith. . . None of us needs faith to know a STAR is there neither do we claim to feel a star in our heart and so it must be true.

Alas the Op menesheh is very correct, The religion of today is the myth of tomorrow. . Just a quick look down historical timeline affirms this..
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Re: The Hydra Of Religion by hahn(m): 1:49pm On Sep 26, 2015
Those guys above have said it all.

Understanding what has been said is a different thing entirely.

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Re: The Hydra Of Religion by plaetton: 2:00pm On Sep 26, 2015
johnydon22:
[b]Religion like i have always said is a very important aspect of human development, it helped and marred humans.

One of the disturbing traits of religion is that is makes people to be comfortable with not knowing.

It makes people to be contented with ignorance and kills the curiosity in the minds of people.

If this traits as above stuck with humanity we would still have been riding horses now and think Hurricanes are because the God neptune is pissed off at mankind.

Religion thrives on dogmas that should never be questioned but rather believed by Faith which basically means whether it is true or not.

If man believes things by "Faith" and not evidence i wonder the kind of simpletons humans would still be by now, wonder where our enquiries would have led us because nobody would ever act on them.

If anybody really thinks "Faith" should be the basis of deduction and conviction and not evidence then am afraid such minds are redundant to a society because such minds won't be open to new facts but rather are vulnerable to any dogma, whim or ludicrous coercion around.

I wonder how 21st century beings honestly think it is fine to believe a postulation on faith and not evidence or what some ancient book said or what some one told you that you must believe., this idea is as ludicrous as it is absurd.

Such convictions kills the curiosity in man and the drive to know and there will be no freedom of thought because a mind that thrives on faith will be caught by its faith into inconsistency and untruths because they will not be able to discard false assertions or beliefs when evidence against them comes along or possess rigidity of mind it takes to accept an assertion based on evidence that goes contrary to their conviction.

That is why knowledge always seem to be the greatest enemy of "Faith". Study do not aim to establish immutable truths or eternal unchanging and unquestionable dogmas.

No, study aims to approach the truth through successive approximations without claiming at any stage that final and complete accuracy has been achieved.

This we saw in the recent change of solar system members by the astronomical body, if science worked like religious dogma, they would maintain the planets are 9 and can never change even when further discoveries speaks contrary to this.

This is why you would see a religionist deny scientific facts in order to hold still to their convictions based on emotional tilt.

This is why i always maintained that i'd rather base my confidence on Reason, logic and study than base it on "Faith" which by definition is blind.

Clinging on stoic convictions of assertions that are laid out against reason and is supposed to be defended against reason. .

There is no reason to believe it at all if it is supposed to be believed by faith. . . None of us needs faith to know a STAR is there neither do we claim to feel a star in our heart and so it must be true.

Alas the Op menesheh is very correct, The religion of today is the myth of tomorrow. . Just a quick look down historical timeline affirms this..
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I agree with everything said here, except your first statement about religion being an important part of human development.

The jury is out on that one.
I fail to see how a worldview built around irrationality can be of any value to human development.

Modern emperical research in cognitive psychology has shown that false beliefs and the cognitive dissonance that it causes is the greatest impediment to a full self-awareness.

All the claims that religion attributes to itself, morality, peace, love and harmony, have been found throughout history, to be false, contrived and at times, fraudulent.

Religion leaves human civilization with painful legacies and open sores of prejudice, bigotry, hatred, division and wars.

In modern day, a child that grows up believing in, talking to, and building a life around an invisible friend would be considered a maladjusted child with developmental problems.

And that, exactly, is the story of human civilization : The tragedy and consequences of growing up with invisible friends (and enemies if you include satan).

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Re: The Hydra Of Religion by johnydon22(m): 2:14pm On Sep 26, 2015
plaetton:


I agree with everything said here, except your first statement about religion being an important part of human development.

The jury is out on that one.
I fail to see how a worldview built around irrationality can be of any value to human development.

Modern emperical research in cognitive psychology has shown that false beliefs and the cognitive dissonance that it causes is the greatest impediment to a full self-awareness.

All the claims that religion attributes to itself, morality, peace, love and harmony, have been found throughout history, to be false, contrived and at times, fraudulent.

Religion leaves human civilization with painful legacies and open sores of prejudice, bigotry, hatred, division and wars.

In modern day, a child that grows up believing in, talking to, and building a life around an invisible friend would be considered a maladjusted child with developmental problems.

And that, exactly, is the story of human civilization : The tragedy and consequences of growing up with invisible friends (and enemies if you include satan).

You are right my brother I agree with you on that but That assertion was misunderstood, One can never list out the stages of human development and take religion out of it.

Human history is buttered into thousands of beliefs and religions that stems from the unavailability of the answers man seek...

My statement means "In the stages of human development, Whether in a good or bad way religion was a huge part of it ...

We should not necessarily pay a blind eye to this fact....

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Re: The Hydra Of Religion by plaetton: 2:31pm On Sep 26, 2015
johnydon22:


You are right my brother I agree with you on that but That assertion was misunderstood, One can never list out the stages of human development and take religion out of it.

Human history is buttered into thousands of beliefs and religions that stems from the unavailability of the answers man seek...

My statement means "In the stages of human development, Whether in a good or bad way religion was a huge part of it ...

We should not necessarily pay a blind eye to this fact....

Well, yes. That is correct.
Re: The Hydra Of Religion by Jameselias: 7:47am On Sep 27, 2015
Broda, plaetton, were have u been? I miss u,
Re: The Hydra Of Religion by plaetton: 2:19pm On Sep 27, 2015
Jameselias:
Broda, plaetton, were have u been? I miss u,

Lol.
I got a new hobby.
I believe it is called earning a living.
grin
Re: The Hydra Of Religion by johnydon22(m): 11:24am On Nov 10, 2015
hahn:
Those guys above have said it all.
Understanding what has been said is a different thing entirely.

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