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China Deploys Troops To Help Russia In Syria by NairaMinted: 1:10pm On Sep 25, 2015 |
Sounds too good to be true but I am hoping it is so...... ![]() September 25, 2015 Maxfux Translated by Kristina Rus China deploys troops to help Russia in Syria Remember the joint military exercises of Russia and China in the sea and on land? With landing on shore and fighting against terrorists? And here is the answer to the question of why they trained together. Rusvesna: "An Arab news source [Al Masdar News] reports that a military contingent of the PRC is on the way to Latakia and will arrive in Syrian ports any day. Chinese transport with military cargo was spotted on Tuesday morning, passing through the Suez canal. Information about the Chinese military experts heading to Tartus was confirmed by the commander of the Syrian army. The report concludes that Moscow will create in Syria an anti-terrorist coalition that will become the alternative version of the military alliance formed by the US for dropping supplies to ISIS. Military entrance of China into the struggle for Syria will be an important addition to today's statement by the Iranian Foreign Ministry. At a press conference with "Russia Today" deputy foreign minister of Iran, Hossein Amir Abdollahian stated that Iran will fight ISIS together with Russia. Notably Amir talked not just about an alliance, but a creation of a broad military coalition. "We welcome the Russian President's proposal on establishment of a common front in a fight against terrorism and are even ready in realizing this initiative to carry out joint operations and cooperate together," - said deputy foreign minister of Iran. That Russia will fight terrorists with Iran's hands, English resources have been writing for a week. And the joining of China into the support group has exceeded all imaginable expectations. The presence of the international coalition significantly changes the balance of power in favor of Moscow, untying Russian hands for direct military action in the Middle East." It seems that Russia has finally returned to the Middle East. 3 Likes |
Re: China Deploys Troops To Help Russia In Syria by 500samuel(m): 2:58pm On Sep 25, 2015 |
good news 1 Like |
Re: China Deploys Troops To Help Russia In Syria by Nobody: 8:22pm On Sep 25, 2015 |
Op, if Obama dies of heart attack tommorrow, na you dem go hold o. 4 Likes |
Re: China Deploys Troops To Help Russia In Syria by Appleyard(m): 8:26pm On Sep 25, 2015 |
Re: China Deploys Troops To Help Russia In Syria by Appleyard(m): 8:34pm On Sep 25, 2015 |
NairaMinted: Russia is fully back, and the news is true. Even Isreali officials are confirming it. Now, fro those who are still doubting Russo-Chino alliance, can now lay down their doubts. ![]() Russia and China are now in full and fledging alliance ![]() ![]() 2 Likes |
Re: China Deploys Troops To Help Russia In Syria by otokx(m): 10:37pm On Sep 25, 2015 |
Is this the beginning of Armageddon? 1 Like |
Re: China Deploys Troops To Help Russia In Syria by Sveen: 9:50am On Sep 26, 2015 |
Almighty mother Russia. 3 Likes |
Re: China Deploys Troops To Help Russia In Syria by Angelou(m): 4:31pm On Sep 26, 2015 |
it's the Anglo-American Avengers (US, UK, and europe's western bloc) versus the fantastic four (Russia, China, North Korea, and ............. ![]() 2 Likes |
Re: China Deploys Troops To Help Russia In Syria by NairaMinted: 10:27pm On Sep 26, 2015 |
CHINESE AIRCRAFT CARRIER REPORTEDLY DOCKS AT TARTUS, SYRIA Chinese fighter jets and helicopters to assist Russians in battle against US-backed proxies [img]http://www.infowars.com/chinese-aircraft-carrier-reportedly-docks-at-tartus-syria/[/img] Chinese Aircraft Carrier Reportedly Docks at Tartus, Syria Image Credits: Wikimedia Commons. by KURT NIMMO | INFOWARS.COM | SEPTEMBER 26, 2015 Share on Facebook1496Tweet about this on Twitter118Share on Google+0Email this to someonePrint this page The Chinese aircraft carrier Liaoning-CV-16 has reportedly docked at the Syrian port of Tartus, according to DEBKAfile, an Israeli military intelligence website based in Jerusalem. Much of DEBKAfile’s reportage is based on unidentified sources and cannot be independently verified. The aircraft carrier was said to be accompanied by a guided missile cruiser. Al-Masdar Al-‘Arabi, The Arab Source, claimed on Tuesday a Chinese naval vessel passed through the Suez Canal. “Our military sources find evidence that the Chinese forces are digging in for a prolonged stay in Syria. The carrier put into Tartus minus its aircraft contingent. The warplanes and helicopters should be in place on its decks by mid-November – flying in directly from China via Iran or transported by giant Russian transports from China through Iranian and Iraqi airspace,” the unidentified sources told DEBKAfile. A squadron of J-15 Flying Shark fighters will be stationed on the aircraft carrier and at the Russian base outside of Latakia. According to the sources, the Chinese will also deploy Z-18F anti-submarine helicopters and Z-18J airborne early warning helicopters. Additionally, according to the report, the Chinese will send 1,000 marines to assist the Russians in their effort to rollback the gains of the Islamic State and other jihadist groups attempting to defeat the Syrian army and depose Bashar al-Assad. DEDABKfile claims marines will be instructed to single out rebel militias with recruits from Chechnya and the Caucasus and the Chinese marines will find and destroy Uighur fighters from the northern predominantly Muslim Chinese province of Xinjiang. In August Infowars.com reported Secretary of Defense Chuck Hagel’s remarks on ISIS and its advanced battlefield tactics due to the involvement of well-trained Chechens. As noted by researcher Wayne Madsen last year, the U.S. has financed Chechen groups through a number of civil society groups, a fact “gleaned from the tranche of a quarter million leaked classified State Department cables,” writes Madsen. According to Madsen the CIA, various establishment NGOs, USAID, the Soros foundations and the United Nations have worked together to underwrite Chechen terror. The Bush neocons also figure prominently in the Chechen connection. There is ample evidence of the neocon connection to Chechen rebels, including information provided by former FBI agent Coleen Rowley. Earlier this week Infowars.com reported on Jaish al-Muhajireen wal-Ansar, aka Muhajireen Brigade, joining al-Nusra, the jihadi terror organization linked to the Islamic State. Jaish al-Muhajireen wal-Ansar is comprised primarily of Chechen and other Russian-speaking foreign fighters. It was led by an ethnic Chechen, Abu Omar al-Shishani, aka Tarkhan Tayumurazovich Batirashvili. Batirashvili and other Chechen figures, including Doku Umarov have connections to the US State Department and the National Endowment for Democracy. |
Re: China Deploys Troops To Help Russia In Syria by Appleyard(m): 12:50am On Sep 27, 2015 |
Yeah! ![]() 1 Like |
Re: China Deploys Troops To Help Russia In Syria by overhypedsteve(m): 3:47pm On Sep 27, 2015 |
Appleyard:Russia is playing an old chess piece of the US. They intend on forming a coalition against ISIS instead of fighting it alone, why? To win a wide reaching support for the pro- Assad propaganda. If Russia is attacking alone it would be easy for the US and EU to tie it to vested interests, but if she is being supported by China and Iran and probably soon India, then it would become very hard for the west to wage a successful propaganda war against them. 3 Likes |
Re: China Deploys Troops To Help Russia In Syria by overhypedsteve(m): 3:54pm On Sep 27, 2015 |
Appleyard:what is SA going to do in Syria? Is the threat of al shabab, bokoharam, crisis in DRC and Sudan, are they not enough for southAfrica to define her foreign policy agenda with recourse to her continental responsibilities? What does she have to gain in Syria? 1 Like |
Re: China Deploys Troops To Help Russia In Syria by Appleyard(m): 2:12am On Sep 28, 2015 |
overhypedsteve:I see. But if you can recall, i did mentioned goepolitical and economic reasons. The world currently is been broken and fragmented into smaller economic units/blocks, with the likes of the EU, the SCO, BRICS,etc; as among the prominent ones. The formations of such blocs goes a long way in defining the ideology of a nation, and in shaping it's foreign policies, as well as where lies it's intersts and loyalty. Now, when one or two member nations of such enonomic and geopolitical bloc get involve in a continental or intercontinental political or economic bruhaha, especially one that threatens the peace and security; some, if not all of the remaining member states, tends to get involved, covertly or overtly, as a show of solidarity and mutual identity and support in good and bad times. And since SA is a member of the BRICS, with two of it member nations already involved in the War in Syria, it won't be surprising to see the Diamond Nation move in similar steps, especially when you take into consideration that the war in question is about an enemy that is of great threat to the national security of any nation. What is happening now to Libya, Egypt, Mali, and Nigeria, is a wake up call to any sensible and security cautious Nation in the Black continent. And one sure way to defeat terrorism is to pre-empt them; and this may include taken the battle to where you can find and fight them before they have the chance to fight you. This is the primary reason China is stepping into the fight against ISIS in Syria. thus, S.A will gain alot in terms of securing its national security against terrorism on the long run, and also set the records straight that it would not tolerate any foreign diabolical schemes and plots against it's people. I believe we all know that Boko Haram in Nigeria and Al Shaabab in Mali, are foreign sponsored elements design to achieve specifric aims! Well, i am having the creeps that ones they are through with Nigeria and Egypt, since Libya is already "mission successful", the next port of call might just be S.A: especially now that the US have "warned" it of a possible terror attack. And We all know how they will warn you first (as if they are truely concerned) before they hit at you! Is the same old game! 1 Like |
Re: China Deploys Troops To Help Russia In Syria by Appleyard(m): 2:15am On Sep 28, 2015 |
overhypedsteve:So much sense! So much sense! ![]() 1 Like |
Re: China Deploys Troops To Help Russia In Syria by overhypedsteve(m): 8:26am On Sep 28, 2015 |
Appleyard:nations are guided by their immediate or regional interest in defining their policies. Southafrica has no business in Syria. All the Brics nations in Syria or about to enter Syria are great powers(india), super powers(russia) and soft powers(china). southAfrica is not yet a great power so her interest cannot at this Time be transcontinental. There are small powers, great powers, soft powers and super powers and more recently hyper powers(a post cold war concept). Russia seized to be a super power since after its disintegration and the fall of communism. Why? Because to be a super power you have to have a global interest, foreign military bases and the totality of resources to pursue your interest anywhere in the world( Henry Kissinger 1973 ex US foreign minister). When Russia abandoned communism she lost the only one factor that gave her a global interest which was the spread of communism as written in the communist manifesto. She lost some of her territories and most of her mil bases and she became a great power but some of us political analyst still chose to call her super power, China is a soft power by virtue of her economic dimension of power, while India is regarded as a regional power or great power by virtue of her regional wide interest in the Asian continent ( Henry Kissinger: a great power is a power that have the totality pf resource to achieve her interstate which are regionally limited). So how do you describe south Africa? Despite the fact that she does not have the resources to achieve any regional wide interest, she does not even have a regional wide interest, if she does what is her policy towards al shabab, boko haram, Mali, Sudan, DRC, Libya? Unfortunately Africa can boast of only one great power and that is Nigeria. Our wide reaching pro African interest can be seen from table mountains in the south to the horn of Africa in the east. We have service men deployed in Liberia, Mali,sudan, Somalia and our force men have served as military head of staff in foreign African countries. We have not received a single penny from anyone in all our pro African efforts, we have the totality of resources for pursuing our interest anywhere in Africa. The Americans and soviet saw that when we mediated in the Angola crisis. 8 MIG21 we sent to Angola from Nigeria and 2 C130 were permanently shuffling between Angola and Nigeria supplying the pro nigerian rebel group in Angola. I would end this by saying nations know their status in world politics and cannot take actions beyond that status. 2 Likes |
Re: China Deploys Troops To Help Russia In Syria by Appleyard(m): 10:02am On Sep 28, 2015 |
overhypedsteve: I must agree with you in almost all of your submissions, particularly as it relate to "power status, and geopolitical battle bone-vis national ideology and foreign interest. But a nation like SA does not have to be a major power or super power before it can meddle in places like Syria. A diplomatic assertion, an economic decision or a political stance, goes a long way in entailing solidarity and defining positions in the wake of economic, political and security continental or intercontinental issues. For instance, SA decision to halt the sale of coal to Ukraine at the early stage of the Ukrainian-Russian fracas, is one example of such identification, even though Jo'bourg denied that such decisions are not political. The fact is, if SA is to get involve in Syria, it musn't be by way of military deployment, since the much bigger players now entering the conflict already have such at their disposal. A certain decision-economic or political, will be enough to define her stance. Bulgaria didn't have to get directly involve in Syria when it blocks Russian military transports from use of its airspace, but as a matter of fact, she was indirectly involved and defined it's position just by that single Political Decision that entails where her priorities and allegiance lies. This much will definitly be the case with SA should the need arise. On power, i just don't have the time to debate on what quantifies power, what qualifies as power or what are the yardstick for determining political power among nations? Like i said above, i quite agree with your summation and Kissinger's definitions of power and super power status and so on. But the truth is: "power" as use in this context, goes beyond having military bases spread accross the globe. That is, power goes beyond quantities of military hardware. America's super power status today is not just because of its blue water navy or military might, but its ability to influence the global economy. That is the real power. Aside that, every other thing is in the relatives and comperatives analogy as it relate to other key players in technological sense. On Nigeria, there is no disputing the fact that Nigeria remains the backbone of Africa reliance, especially when you consider her foreign policy which is centered on Africa as the focal point of interest. The human, material, economic, and financial sacrifice this nation has made in ensuring the status quo accross he continent, tentavely defines her position as the giant of the continent; the only eye sore being corruption and leadership problem as it relates to the ecomic and political well being of the nation. Be that as it may, one thing is now certain; and it is that the Syrian crisis just starting. It is far from over! |
Re: China Deploys Troops To Help Russia In Syria by Appleyard(m): 10:10am On Sep 28, 2015 |
otokx:You can call it the formation of the biblical Gog and Magog. Endtime things ![]() |
Re: China Deploys Troops To Help Russia In Syria by overhypedsteve(m): 1:42pm On Sep 28, 2015 |
Appleyard:we can also be very sure that the crisis may take the dimension of the 1956 Arab Israeli war if the west continue to support the Rebels. Ladies and Gentlemen let us sit back and watch the most volatile political event in the Arab East since the 1956 Kadesh Operation and tripartite aggression. |
Re: China Deploys Troops To Help Russia In Syria by Appleyard(m): 2:48pm On Sep 28, 2015 |
overhypedsteve:Right on point! The US sudden haste to coordinate with Russia is a clear indication that the Syria issue is a keg of gun powder waiting to explode into a scenario that novody would like. We can do nothing but wait! 2 Likes |
Re: China Deploys Troops To Help Russia In Syria by NairaMinted: 4:39pm On Sep 28, 2015 |
Well like I said at the beginning when I mentioned this, it sounded too good to be true. How celebrations are short lived ![]() Chinese aircraft carrier LiaoningExpert Shatters Rumors About Chinese Aircraft Carrier in Syria © Photo: Wikipedia/Voice of America WORLD 13:10 28.09.2015(updated 13:14 28.09.2015) Get short URL 03808217 A Chinese military expert has rejected reports about a Chinese aircraft carrier which was allegedly on its way to Syria to take part in the fight against Islamic State militants. The Liaoning CV-16, China's only aircraft carrier, isn't on its way to Syria, according to Zhang Junshe, a military expert and employee of the Research Institute of the Chinese People's Liberation Army's Navy. In an interview with the Chinese newspaper Huantsyu Shibao, Zhang rejected "false rumors" about the Liaoning CV-16 being en route to the Mediterranean. "China's position is to respect the free choice of the Syrian people and not to add to a military intervention in Syria or a forcible power shift, which is why China could not send an aircraft carrier to Syria to interfere in the internal affairs of the country," Zhang said. Russian Navy Commander Hopes for Greater Military Cooperation With China He also pledged that China will not support any groups or individuals in Syria, saying that Beijing adheres to a fair and objective approach to this issue. Earlier, the Lebanese news network Al-Masdar quoted a Syrian military source as saying that the Chinese aircraft carrier Liaoning-CV-16 was due to arrive at a Syrian military base in Latakia in the coming days. Israeli military sources went even further, claiming late last week that the Liaoning-CV-16 had already docked at the Syrian port of Tartus. Read more: http://sputniknews.com/world/20150928/1027641739/china-syria-aircraft-carrier-rumors.html#ixzz3n310Xr6E |
Re: China Deploys Troops To Help Russia In Syria by NairaMinted: 4:48pm On Sep 28, 2015 |
China from the looks of things is threading with caution. It's got his hands full with the situation in the South China Sea and sees it unnecessary to involve itself - at least not so directly and ostentatiously - in the murky geopolitics of the Middle East. @overhypedsteve I couldn't agree with you any less about your viewpoints on why South Africa shouldn't get itself involved in Syria. Absolutely misguided and unnecessary overreach in my opinion. I just hope those 2/3 warring users won't come on here and distract this thread with their bitter Nigeria vs. South Africa feud! Lol 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: China Deploys Troops To Help Russia In Syria by Nobody: 11:01am On Sep 29, 2015 |
NairaMinted: SA currently has no capacity to involve itself in any external conflict outside SADC. There's been no reports from our foreign relations department or military apparatus to get involved either diplomatically or military wise its simply beyond our reach for now. And for the 2/3 warring users I would suggest people should also refrain from comments that would trigger a Nigeria vs SA feud. |
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