https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wnMb7c1CNyw

"The cross shows us a different way of measuring success. Ours is to plant the seeds. God sees to the fruits of our labors. And if at times our efforts and works seem to fail and not produce fruit, we need to remember that we are followers of Jesus Christ and his life, humanly speaking, ended in failure, the failure of the cross."

Is it that english is hard, (HUMANLY SPEAKING) the cross ended in failure "pls note the words in bracket" wasn't it the same that the elders, scribes and Pharisees though dat Christ death will bring about the end of Him, unknown to them that He will rise from the dead.

Back to ur post as a human being u toiled and no harvest came forth u simply say it was a failure, but as one with faith knowing that you a child of God u know that's not the end. Miracles happen at the least time we expect.

So in summary from this post, Francis help to differentiate between a human being one who believes the cross ended in failure (faithless) and one who believes the cross ended in triump (with faith).

Why do u people like to quote out of contest I have read d full article. Here it is

There is a cause for rejoicing here”, although “you may for a time have to suffer the distress of many trials” (1 Pet 1:6). These words of the Apostle remind us of something essential. Our vocation is to be lived in joy.This beautiful Cathedral of Saint Patrick, built up over many years through the sacrifices of many men and women, can serve as a symbol of the work of generations of American priests and religious, and lay faithful who helped build up the Church in the United States. In the field of education alone, how many priests and religious in this country played a central role, assisting parents in handing on to theirchildren the food that nourishes them for life! Many did so at the cost of extraordinary sacrifice and with heroic charity. I think for example of Saint Elizabeth Ann Seton, who founded the first free Catholic school for girls in America, or Saint John Neumann, the founder of the first system of Catholic education in the United States.This evening, my brothers and sisters, Ihave come to join you in prayer that our vocations will continue to build up the great edifice of God’s Kingdom in this country. I know that, as a presbyterate in the midst of God’s people, you suffered greatly in the not distant past by having to bear the shame of some of your brothers who harmed and scandalized the Church in the most vulnerable of her members… In the words of the Book of Revelation, I know well that you “have come forth from the great tribulation” (Rev 7:14). I accompany you at this time of pain and difficulty, and I thank God for your faithful service to his people. In the hope of helping you to persevere on the path of fidelity to Jesus Christ, I would like to offer two brief reflections.The first concerns the spirit of gratitude. The joy of men and women who love God attracts others to him; priests and religious are called to find and radiate lasting satisfaction in theirvocation. Joy springs from a grateful heart. Truly, we have received much, so many graces, so many blessings, and we rejoice in this. It will do us good to think back on our lives with the grace of remembrance. Remembrance of when we were first called, remembrance of the road travelled, remembrance of graces received… and, above all, remembrance of our encounter with Jesus Christ so often along the way. Remembrance of the amazement which our encounter with Jesus Christ awakens in our hearts. To seek the grace of remembrance so as to grow inthe spirit of gratitude. Perhaps we needto ask ourselves: are we good at counting our blessings?A second area is the spirit of hard work. A grateful heart is spontaneouslyimpelled to serve the Lord and to find expression in a life of commitment to our work. Once we come to realize howmuch God has given us, a life of self-sacrifice, of working for him and for others, becomes a privileged way ofresponding to his great love.Yet, if we are honest, we know how easily this spirit of generous self-sacrifice can be dampened. There are a couple of ways that this can happen; both are examples of that “spiritual worldliness” which weakens our commitment to serve and diminishes the wonder of our first encounter with Christ.We can get caught up measuring the value of our apostolic works by the standards of efficiency, good management and outward success which govern the business world. Not that these things are unimportant! We have been entrusted with a great responsibility, and God’s people rightlyexpect accountability from us. But the true worth of our apostolate is measured by the value it has in God’s eyes. To see and evaluate things from God’s perspective calls for constant conversion in the first days and years of our vocation and, need I say, great humility. The cross shows us a different way of measuring success. Ours is to plant the seeds: God sees to the fruits of our labors. And if at times our efforts and works seem to fail and produce no fruit, we need to remember that we are followers of Jesus… and his life, humanly speaking, ended in failure, the failure of the crossAnother danger comes when we become jealous of our free time, when we think that surrounding ourselves with worldly comforts will help us serve better. The problem with this reasoning is that it can blunt the powerof God’s daily call to conversion, to encounter with him. Slowly but surely, it diminishes our spirit of sacrifice, renunciation and hard work. It also alienates people who suffer material poverty and are forced to make greatersacrifices than ourselves. Rest is needed, as are moments of leisure andself-enrichment, but we need to learn how to rest in a way that deepens our desire to serve with generosity. Closeness to the poor, the refugee, the immigrant, the sick, the exploited, the elderly living alone, prisoners and all God’s other poor, will teach us a different way of resting, one which is more Christian and generous.Gratitude and hard work: these are twopillars of the spiritual life which I have wanted to share with you this evening. I thank you for prayers and work, and the daily sacrifices you make in the various areas of your apostolate. Manyof these are known only to God, but they bear rich fruit for the life of the Church. In a special way I would like toexpress my esteem and gratitude to the religious women of the United States. What would the Church be without you? Women of strength, fighters, with that spirit of courage which puts you in the front lines in the proclamation of the Gospel. To you, religious women, sisters and mothers of this people, I wish to say “thank you”, a big thank you… and to tell you that I love you very much.I know that many of you are in the front lines in meeting the challenges ofadapting to an evolving pastoral landscape. Whatever difficulties and trials you face, I ask you, like Saint Peter, to be at peace and to respond to them as Christ did: he thanked the Father, took up his cross and looked forward!

Thanks @Aizenosa,was about to call out the OP for that deliberate misrepresentation but I see you already did a good job of it.

Aizenosa,

Yes, try to keep up.

We've already considered that and have moved on the next question, which is based on the fact that he must have known the way that would have sounded, which brings up the question as to why he didn't take a moment to clarify what he meant. Rather, he instead just left it at that. So, either the Pope is an idiot who can't understand simple common sense things, or he meant for it to be provocative and simply was not interested in telling us that he only mean from the human perspective.

The point is, his whole theme is one that esteems Allah as God, and Muhammad as a legitimate prophet of God. Yet he gives the aura of denigrating Christ without actually stating further to demonstrate that he meant only from a human perspective.

Also, even from a human perspective, back then Christ's life may have been regarded as a failure, but today, even from a human perspective, Christ's life cannot be seen as a failure but by a fool.

The man's life changed the course of the entire world for the better. Even by our imperfect, not understanding minds, Christ's life is not even remotely a failure.

For the Pope to say nothing further than what he said means that he's okay with exactly what he said, which means he's either mentally deficient, or he actually IS okay with what he said, regardless of how it could be construed.

Treyson:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wnMb7c1CNyw

"The cross shows us a different way of measuring success. Ours is to plant the seeds. God sees to the fruits of our labors. And if at times our efforts and works seem to fail and not produce fruit, we need to remember that we are followers of Jesus Christ and his life, humanly speaking, ended in failure, the failure of the cross."

that statement is a fact. I made exact statement to the congreation in my church on sunday

Crask:
Aizenosa,

Yes, try to keep up.

We've already considered that and have moved on the next question, which is based on the fact that he must have known the way that would have sounded, which brings up the question as to why he didn't take a moment to clarify what he meant. Rather, he instead just left it at that. So, either the Pope is an idiot who can't understand simple common sense things, or he meant for it to be provocative and simply was not interested in telling us that he only mean from the human perspective.

The point is, his whole theme is one that esteems Allah as God, and Muhammad as a legitimate prophet of God. Yet he gives the aura of denigrating Christ without actually stating further to demonstrate that he meant only from a human perspective.

Also, even from a human perspective, back then Christ's life may have been regarded as a failure, but today, even from a human perspective, Christ's life cannot be seen as a failure but by a fool.

The man's life changed the course of the entire world for the better. Even by our imperfect, not understanding minds, Christ's life is not even remotely a failure.

For the Pope to say nothing further than what he said means that he's okay with exactly what he said, which means he's either mentally deficient, or he actually IS okay with what he said, regardless of how it could be construed.

The Pope was primarily speaking to Catholics...and we understand.

When the Pope speaks to iddiots, he might need to explain further...but even if he did, iddiots would not understand.

Crask:
Aizenosa,

Yes, try to keep up.

We've already considered that and have moved on the next question, which is based on the fact that he must have known the way that would have sounded, which brings up the question as to why he didn't take a moment to clarify what he meant. Rather, he instead just left it at that. So, either the Pope is an idiot who can't understand simple common sense things, or he meant for it to be provocative and simply was not interested in telling us that he only mean from the human perspective.

The point is, his whole theme is one that esteems Allah as God, and Muhammad as a legitimate prophet of God. Yet he gives the aura of denigrating Christ without actually stating further to demonstrate that he meant only from a human perspective.

Also, even from a human perspective, back then Christ's life may have been regarded as a failure, but today, even from a human perspective, Christ's life cannot be seen as a failure but by a fool.

The man's life changed the course of the entire world for the better. Even by our imperfect, not understanding minds, Christ's life is not even remotely a failure.

For the Pope to say nothing further than what he said means that he's okay with exactly what he said, which means he's either mentally deficient, or he actually IS okay with what he said, regardless of how it could be construed.

Truly u sound like a child who asks to be fed milk every single time, when the prophets spoke they spoke in future tense, when Jesus spoke He spoke in parables except to His disciples, when His disciples spoke they spoke with wisdom and understanding.

Now the pope has spoken in clear simple english easy to understand and u are confused. Sincerely I shake my head for u, because I don't know how u are going to understand the Words of God if u continue like this.
Get education and stop wallowing in illiteracy.

italo:


The Pope was primarily speaking to Catholics...and we understand.

When the Pope speaks to iddiots, he might need to explain further...but even if he did, iddiots would not understand.

you know before my experience on nairaland. I used to think Catholics dont do enough explaining our doctrines to other Christian denominations, that if they do? They (other Christian denominations) would definitely understand. But nairaland had since changed be thoughts to the bolded.