chowlade:
if that's true i'm happy

macof:
I can't believe there are so many bastards and deranged fellows in thus world

See how bible studies has fried their brains. Yoruba history is now to be learnt from bible?

This is why we preach for the need to encourage our culture and traditions so children grow to know themselves and not be so empty that they resort to bible to fill in the gaps in their lack of identity

Fulaman198:
I'm not an Israellite what is this bullcrap. This nonsense need to stop. I'm a proud Fulani man and I would never EVER want to be an Israelite. We are older than Israelites.

ZelrothCloven:
Uhmmm... Lol

I don't know why Africans are always looking for their origins from else where when others should be looking for their origin from Africa. Lol!

And seriously? First Igbos? Now the most out of sorts combination? Yoruba and Fulani? Looool! I honestly almost choked laughing at this! Smh! No similarities whatsoever! I mean....I can't even think of one!

But honestly, this is sad. Africans and their stupidity, Smh!

Fulaman198:
I'm not an Israellite what is this bullcrap. This nonsense need to stop. I'm a proud Fulani man and I would never EVER want to be an Israelite. We are older than Israelites.

absoluteSuccess:
It is impossible to proof a point without corroborating your points with landmark and available facts drawn from diverse independent sources. If it is rooted to the holy bible alone, it becomes 'christian biased hypothesis' and you are exposed to ridicules from groups aversed to bible, that does not mean your hypothesis has christian audience either. You must therefore seek insight from broad spectrum source to establish your conclussion 'beyond reasonable doubt'. Your claims should not be inspired by vain pride, cos there are such among your opposers already. Once your claims have bearing, it springs from the margine to the mainstream. You must accomplish some breathtaking scientific or archeological discovery from rubbles of time to put the invisible to fore. You are right, the founding fathers of a civilization that spring forth Yoruba and her neighbours were hebrew, like I am from Ileba myself, (Il'Eba, land of Eber). I will lend a hand anyday, you are on my zone, but it is not yet the fullness of time.

ZelrothCloven:


So you agree that your people are from Israel?

absoluteSuccess:
Thats not my headache sha, but can you tell my geneology inside out by my post?

ZelrothCloven:


I can deduce that you're Yoruba and you share the op's sympathy for this cause. Answer the question.

absoluteSuccess:
Yes, the post I put forward has the answer you want, and I see a budding pressure in you. Dont force anything, I wont come under your control. Please share what you have to share.

ZelrothCloven:


My thesis is simple. Any African ethnicity claiming foreign origins are just Africans being their usual self loathing selves. The sooner we start to accept and embrace who we are the better.

bigfrancis21:


You must be an Israelite o whether you like it or not.

ZelrothCloven:


I guess shalom is in order. Your people are the newest addition to the Israelite family after the Igbos. Congrats man

ZelrothCloven:


I guess shalom is in order. Your people are the newest addition to the Israelite family after the Igbos. Congrats man

absoluteSuccess:


I agree with you. But also, racial activism and complexes, religious fanatism, colonial mentality and its complex offshoots and an on-going need for self-determination can affect true search for origins or historical paths of the founding fathers.

I am at the stage of 'what to believe', I have conquered the dilema of 'who to believe', hence I seem not to care who hold the reins. I go with the tenets of my ancestral traditions on historical issues.

You are right, the founding fathers of a civilization that spring forth Yoruba and her neighbours were hebrew, like I am from Ileba myself, (Il'Eba, land of Eber)

absoluteSuccess:
Ado is made up of different quarters known as Ido, meaning camp or station, I am from isolo, but our family are the custodians of 'ileba temple' at Ileba quarters at Ado Odo. The temple handlers are known as 'owun olowonrin'. So we are praised as

'omo Eleba Ori, omo ori Onoja Osan.' I would like you to take this oriki to oyo to find my kindred for me. Google wont help. If you listen to one of Osupa song, he praised his late dad as omo Ola-Ileba.

Another one from my mum side is this particular ancestral praise, from Ajase (the people settle at Idojigan, Ado Odo from port novo, they were of Agoro family):

mo gbo ayato, omo oyinbo aise.

omo afija sinu pete erin, omo afebi sinu konje.

I know things do change in meaning with you when I interprete them in Yoruba, you can help me to the interpretations.

You might care to note i am attached to root words and not pagan vs christian religious fervour. You are a pagan fanatic if you dont know.

Since you know its Ever I am refering to as Eber, otan.

macof:

perfect, your own family quarters is Ileba(Ile Eber)... there are many quarters named so and a small village in Oyo and I'm very sure they don't share the "Eber" idea

you can identify your "ileba" quarters to Eber, a mesopotamian man whose descendants are the Hebrews but don't distort the history of over 40million people. you can trace ur family origins to Hebrews (which of course is just delusional) but people will at least respect that its ur family not the entire Yoruba nation.
everyone has his family oriki and quarters and can choose to read any meaning to it even if he claims Chinese origin but your family history is not Yoruba history. that will only mean that you are an immigrant here in Yoruba land

this has nothing to do with my religion or lack of it. it is you that brings your religion in to your history... learning ur history through a foreign religion not me

absoluteSuccess:
Thanks for the observation, it takes one man to make a difference, not 40million men.

macof:
this is not politics but history so ur little pep talk to encourage yourself has no place in this. History is not for you to make a difference. If one man's origins is not the same as that of over 40million others I don't see any problem
since you want us to accept that you are of Hebrew origins good we accept. but that's ur business do not transform ur origin to 40million unrelated individuals which includes ME

basille:
Anyone who believes this, is not just ignorant but also suffering from inferiority complex.