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Re: Wake Up Call For Igbos As PDP Zones 2019 Presidential Ticket To North. by aresa: 4:12am On Oct 01, 2015 |
IGBOSON1: The fact that after tens of thousands of ibos were slaughtered up north after your '66 follish coup adventure, you exodused back to your villages in the east, then turn around and return to the same north even considering the fact that you are still getting killed means you can not do without them Also simply because iboland is socially and economically depressed and unproductive and generations after generations of ibo young and adults have to migrate to seek their daily bread in the same other parts of Nigeria that you love to hate means Nigeria can do without you while you can not do without Nigeria.. ...so much for your flawed and myopic assertions.. 8 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Wake Up Call For Igbos As PDP Zones 2019 Presidential Ticket To North. by LasgidyPort: 4:29am On Oct 01, 2015 |
kahal29: This is so on point. The PDP is so heartless. Even if they think the plausible way to win the elections in 2019 is to zone it to the North, do they have to announce it so early when a lot of their passionate supporters from the SE and SS are yet to recover from the 2015 defeat. And even at that, why cant they zone the presidency to the SE and then get a popular PDP person from the North as the VP? I know if this happens, the whole of SE will try and register enmass and then come out to vote in heavy numbers. This pair may slightly lose to PMB (if he still contest), but it would have been a good investment, as the pair will be a strong contending force in the 2023 elections. Politics an be an investment atimes. And this will force the APC to also zone their presidency to the SE in 2023 after PMB's 2nd term, peradventure he contests and win 2nd term. Sincerely, I must say PDP has not been fair to the SE despite the massive support they get from this zone. If a fresh Northerner wins the 2019 presidential election, he'll definitely want to do 2 terms, and politics is too complex to say at the end of that 2 terms, every other tribe will willingly give the SE the ticket. Politicians are not that nice. We have a lot of greedy NC & SS politicians that also has their eyes on the number 1 seat and will not give up easily. Saraki and Akpabio comes to mind. 3 Likes |
Re: Wake Up Call For Igbos As PDP Zones 2019 Presidential Ticket To North. by indeed123: 4:39am On Oct 01, 2015 |
Chrisilo: Oponu, Fayose nah Yoruba man. |
Re: Wake Up Call For Igbos As PDP Zones 2019 Presidential Ticket To North. by ArodewilliamsT: 5:42am On Oct 01, 2015 |
Tolatutu: Will a northerner vote a yorubaman, if another northerner is contesting? 1 Like |
Re: Wake Up Call For Igbos As PDP Zones 2019 Presidential Ticket To North. by Nobody: 5:51am On Oct 01, 2015 |
ArodewilliamsT:Abeg help me ask am The entire south has been confined to playing second fiddle until further notice. 2 Likes |
Re: Wake Up Call For Igbos As PDP Zones 2019 Presidential Ticket To North. by theDEVILisHERE: 5:55am On Oct 01, 2015 |
Movic1: They are really not interested inthe country and its politics They want their own nation 1 Like |
Re: Wake Up Call For Igbos As PDP Zones 2019 Presidential Ticket To North. by OfoIgbo: 6:26am On Oct 01, 2015 |
Yoruba hope of fielding a Yoruba in 2019 has been destroyed by this deft move by PDP. This is a masterstroke as Yoruba calculations have been seriously undermined. Tinubu thought that supporting Buhari will earn him the presidency in due course as northerners will support Yoruba in return. But in actual fact, a northerner will always support yet another northerner, so Yoruba calculatiins have been upturned. Actually, the Yorubas have completely lost out. The more I think of it, this is a wise move by SE/SS-controlled PDP. because whenever APC fields a Yoruba, PDP will field a northerner. My fellow Igbos who are looking at this move by PDP via a short term spectacle, will eventually appreciate the wizardry in this decision. The bottomline is that Yoruba calculations, for which they betrayed a SS president have been utterly destroyed!!!!! 1 Like |
Re: Wake Up Call For Igbos As PDP Zones 2019 Presidential Ticket To North. by reuben79: 6:45am On Oct 01, 2015 |
Movic1:yes ooooooo,pls help me thm.wat i knw is dat igbos cannot rule dis country.let north produce presidential candidate and south eaat produce vp,no way.were goin use social media finish thm.were waitin |
Re: Wake Up Call For Igbos As PDP Zones 2019 Presidential Ticket To North. by Nobody: 6:53am On Oct 01, 2015 |
reuben79: Do you have the political clout to win ANY general election? Do you fare ANY better than the SE that have been far from political power for 50 years now? If your answer is in the affirmative let's read from you... |
Re: Wake Up Call For Igbos As PDP Zones 2019 Presidential Ticket To North. by sandraokosun: 7:12am On Oct 01, 2015 |
chukwudi44:dont tag it south affair.Speak 4 ur igbo. If buhari does two terms and tell the north vote a yoruba(apc) they would win even an hausa pdp candidate. It happened with obj. Yoruba hausa combo works 4 Likes |
Re: Wake Up Call For Igbos As PDP Zones 2019 Presidential Ticket To North. by Nobody: 7:15am On Oct 01, 2015 |
sandraokosun: That's a slavish, myopic view in a democratic setting... |
Re: Wake Up Call For Igbos As PDP Zones 2019 Presidential Ticket To North. by Nobody: 7:23am On Oct 01, 2015 |
sandraokosun: Just like how he asked all of the northern reps to vote Gbajabiamilla as speaker and they did smh |
Re: Wake Up Call For Igbos As PDP Zones 2019 Presidential Ticket To North. by TRUTHTOPOWER: 7:33am On Oct 01, 2015 |
chukwudi44: Sir, it is not as bad as it seems. Even though there is ethnicity, experice under each republic since 1960, clearly suggest that common sense and honour prevalis. 1st Republic- the north won with SE alliance. 2nd Republic- -the north won with SE alliance 3rd Republic -the SW won with North Alliance 4th Republic (a)- the SW won with North Alliance " (b) - the North won with SS Alliance " (c) - SS won with North Alliance. " (d)- North won with SW alliance whatever we feel about this scenario, let us discuss it as if we are Russian politicians (no attachment to anyone that is) the north will do eight years through the alliance of (d) above. Whether both alliance will produce Yoruba and Hausa as President VP respectively depends on many factors because it has never happened before. The closest scenario was VP GEJ who got the sympathy of all Nigerians excluding core north. But GEJ won in a divided north. This is due to honour and commonsense in 2011. Just as PDP honourably gave ticket to GEJ both in 2011 and 2015. APC will give the ticket to South in 2023. we have no exception to this rule yet ( in successive democratic regimes). SE can be like SW of 1999 who produced the Presidential candidates for both parties. SW spoke with one voice to achieve this and spoke with best intentions for the country. They spoke with concern for Muslims and Christians alike and never felt that any group of people were inherently bad. in return the whole country voted for their candidates without fear of retribution. Obsasanjo reciprocated by uniting the country. The question is: how does SE hope to get into presidency that it truly deserves? Hating the incumbent without any history of support for him is a curious strategy. Presidency have never been won only for the reason that North is on top of the ticket. if it is rigging, you cannot out-rig the incumbent unless you are massively popular and you most likely could have won a free and fair election. If it is by popularity, you have to appeal to popular issues. war against corruption, job creation and social justice. You can then do your political permutationon these issues. I may be wrong but protesting against corruption war , insulting other ethnic groups, declaring war on the Nation and hate speeches are not exactly a strategy for popular mobilization. Without exception anywhere in the modern world, you can only win peoples heart through promise of redemption and salvation from their conditions never because it is your right or that you must get it by superficial intrigues of zoning. 2 Likes |
Re: Wake Up Call For Igbos As PDP Zones 2019 Presidential Ticket To North. by Eziachi: 7:35am On Oct 01, 2015 |
Movic1:If they consistently voted for someone outside of their own over their beloved ones, why do you still turn around and call them tribalist? Shouldn't their patterns of voting, according to your own data marked them as the most ditribalized group in Nigeria where everyone votes their own.? In 2000, Al Gore lost to George W Bush in his home state of Tennessee, does that make them the most confused people in the United State? In 1993, Chief Abiola defeated Dawakin Tofa in his home state of Kano, does that also make Kano people the most confused people of the northern Nigeria? Who among Igbo politician spread and fed people more religious and tribal hate than Fayose? Bigots like you, will always sit down to whip up some tribal trash every day without even knowing their own personal history of their child birth, let alone a country, or may I say the world.Instead of spending meaningless time own nairaland, writing bigoted trash, spend that time educating yourself. I try to treat people as individuals, not stereotypes irrespective of where they come from or the language they speak. 2 Likes |
Re: Wake Up Call For Igbos As PDP Zones 2019 Presidential Ticket To North. by Nobody: 7:40am On Oct 01, 2015 |
TRUTHTOPOWER: You're not being truthful with the highlighted sentences. |
Re: Wake Up Call For Igbos As PDP Zones 2019 Presidential Ticket To North. by Eziachi: 7:45am On Oct 01, 2015 |
OfoIgbo:Who made this calculation and where you there holding the calculator to know who the equation was being worked? There is no individual known as Yoruba? Doesn't Yoruba has many people inside the PDP as in APC? Or you think that every Yoruba belongs APC? As we speak, PDP controls two states in the South West and only control four out of six in the SE. And if not for brazen rigging in Abia, it would had been just three states for PDP in the SE. Does some of you think or have any sort of stat or facts before writing? 2 Likes |
Re: Wake Up Call For Igbos As PDP Zones 2019 Presidential Ticket To North. by Nobody: 7:48am On Oct 01, 2015 |
Eziachi: What's your point exactly? |
Re: Wake Up Call For Igbos As PDP Zones 2019 Presidential Ticket To North. by QuotaSystem: 7:50am On Oct 01, 2015 |
aresa: You grabbed the words off my tongue, apart from daily flocking to the North in their Chisco, ABC, Young Shall Grow buses etc. despite being endangered species, the SE relies on the North for their meat, milk, grains etc and the helpless poor soul was attempting to skew facts. It's going to be a holiday watching these politically daft hypocrites campaign for a kunu-sipping almajiri they are too happy to deputize for in 2019 Cc igboson1 |
Re: Wake Up Call For Igbos As PDP Zones 2019 Presidential Ticket To North. by Nobody: 7:52am On Oct 01, 2015 |
QuotaSystem: If your silly assertion is anything to go by why are you lots having sleepless nights and terrible nightmares at the mere mention of Biaf...? |
Re: Wake Up Call For Igbos As PDP Zones 2019 Presidential Ticket To North. by QuotaSystem: 8:13am On Oct 01, 2015 |
Delusion of grandeur. Are you presently conducting a referendum or are your troops currently approaching Kano? Who gives flying hoot about a dream we shot down since 1966? I'm not interested in discussing a foregone issue so avoid any further mentions. xtrorse: |
Re: Wake Up Call For Igbos As PDP Zones 2019 Presidential Ticket To North. by Nobody: 8:15am On Oct 01, 2015 |
QuotaSystem: Do ass-licking slaves stand for something? |
Re: Wake Up Call For Igbos As PDP Zones 2019 Presidential Ticket To North. by TRUTHTOPOWER: 8:16am On Oct 01, 2015 |
xtrorse: Of course I may be wrong. Ok let me concede that I lied. Now look at it: your own inability to give benefit of the doubt to someone who may eventually be your ally will ultimately make that person distrust you. This has been the problem. In politics and in parliamentary debates, you win majority to your side through careful choice of words. and you can talk the way you like about people that you WILL NEVER Seek their support. APC leaders knew where their votes will come from and they attacked only individuals not ethnic groups. Today, FFK is still calling Fulani Tse Flies, PEJ said some they born Children 'throway' Kanu is encouraged to call Nigeria zoo. Again maybe am wrong. maybe Nigeria will beg SE with power out of fear. Take note, SW will benefit from whatever SE makes of itself in 2023. I hear of Ekweremadu as the projected leader. PDP....POWER! It is always about who has Power and not about COSENSUS. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Wake Up Call For Igbos As PDP Zones 2019 Presidential Ticket To North. by QuotaSystem: 8:17am On Oct 01, 2015 |
[quote author=xtrorse post=38554521][/quote] Have I not warned you to not mention me further? Nobody has time for your childish empty quoting of people and then coming to modify it later with rubbish. Besides I'm H/F so you can shove your irrational fear of Yoruba's aside. Swerve. |
Re: Wake Up Call For Igbos As PDP Zones 2019 Presidential Ticket To North. by Nobody: 8:19am On Oct 01, 2015 |
TRUTHTOPOWER: Your views are mainly based on the wicked propaganda and fraudulent practices that are not allowed to take the front seat in a sane clime. In the true sense of it, do your people have the political clout to win ANY credible election? Can you post ANY evidence where a prominent Igbo personality insulted or maligned your father or race? Which ethnic group have built a better bridge than the Igbos who have exhibited more 'Nigerianness' by permeating every nook and cranny of Nigeria, peacefully building and establishing business empires, and growing the economy of the locals and that of the country at large, and some of them even getting married to the locals? In the 90s, the NADECO's unlicensed and inciting Radio Kudirat was hitting the airwaves, did any of your elites condemn it? Before the 2015 general elections, did you condemn the highly inciting Radio Chanji in the North? Between Igbo, Yoruba and Hausa-Fulani who makes lousy, provoking noise and propaganda using every available media outfit? In the build up to the 2015 general elections certain people made careless and careless utterances thereby heating up the polity. Is any of them Igbo The likes of FFK, Fayose, Fashola, Tinubu, Lai, El Rufai, Junaid Mohammed, Obj and Sahara Reporters who heated the polity with their utterances, is any of them Igbo? Ever since you were born, have you seen or heard anywhere Igbos are on rampage, killing people and destroying means of livelihoods for no just cause? How many of your elites dare challenge the Hausa-Fulani-Kanuris or Yorubas for their unjust ways? How many of you dare counter the numerous killings and destruction of lives and properties that have been occurring for many decades in the North unabated? The Hausa-Fulani-Kanuri people have over the century propagated despicable, hate speeches in their mosques and still execute the unconscionable, cold-hearted waste of human lives and reckless destruction of means of livelihoods in the North and Middle-belt. And they now have the presidency while the backstabbing Yorubas vice-presidency! Such a misnomer can only happen in the jungle! A number of Yorubas even go to the extent of carrying wicked lies about how Hausa-Fulani-Kanuri people have been peace-loving and accommodative; that it's the Igbos that always provoke their hosts in the North warranting the pogrom and other heinous crimes against the Igbos. Yet in the same North and the Middle-belt the Christian minorities and other Southerners are maltreated, relegated to the background and even killed. You say that Igbos are arrogant, and that they don't respect their hosts while you subtly proclaim that the Hausa-Fulanis are peace-loving and accommodative. You don’t like Igbos but you still fought and killed them to be in this fraudulent union where your likes are favoured by the injustice, inequity and lopsided arrangement in the polity. And your people even had the effrontery to castigate Igbos for seeking a self-determination! Many of you hold the view that Igbos should be grateful for being allowed to live in their part of the country, in the same 'One Nigeria'! You say Igbos disrespect and denigrate their host when Igbos choose to exercise their franchise right. And you don't seem to see anything wrong in Oba Akiolu's threat to drown Igbos in the Lagos lagoon if they fail to vote for his anointed candidate! The same threat was backed by many Yorubas including Dr Ariyo in the US who even called for genocide. IGBOS HATE NOBODY EXCEPT YOU ARE A SWORN ENEMY TO TRUTH, JUSTICE AND EQUITY. At the 2015 presidential election Igbos only exercised their franchise right just like other tribes. If Igbos are the promoters of hate in Nigeria, can anyone tell us any instance where Igbos go about causing mayhem, killing and destroying means of livelihoods for no just cause? It's only mischievous bigots in the society that turn blind eye to the evil and injustice, and permit the atrocities to flourish in the land because they gain from the lopsided arrangement in the polity. GENESIS OF HATRED IN NIGERIA 1* “We do not want our Southern neighbours to interfere in our development. We have never associated ourselves with the activities of these people. We do not know them, we do not recognize them, and we share no responsibility in their actions. We shall demand our rights when the time is ripe. If the British quit Nigeria now at this stage, the Northern people would continue their uninterrupted conquest to the sea”. - Sir Tafawa Balewa (1947) 2* “We the people of the North will continue our stated intention to conquer the South and to dip the Koran in the Atlantic ocean after the British leave our shores.” - Sir Ahmadu Bello (1957) 3* "The new nation called Nigeria should be an estate of our great grand father, Othman Danfodio. We must ruthlessly prevent a change of power. We must use minorities in the North as willing tools and South as conquered territories and never allow them to rule over us or have control over their future" - Sir Ahmadu Bello, October 12, 1960 Ahmadu Bello, arrogantly uttered the aforementioned statement in a multicultural and multi-religious country and got away with it, and many bigots still hold him in high esteem and even shove it down the throats of other people. 4* https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_WSosECbcmM 5*...barely six months after independence, Sir Ahmadu Bello was able to say with confidence in the Daily Times of May 3, 1961, the following: “I’m set and fully armed, to conquer the Action Group, AG, in the same ruthless manner as my grandfather conquered Alkalawa, a town in Sokoto province, during the last century.” 6*...sometime in 2010, when upon the demise of President Umaru Y'Ardua, indications emerged that his erstwhile deputy, President Goodluck Jonathan, may contest the 2011 presidential election, a prominent chieftain of this same ACF, Lawal Kaita, who was a former Governor of old Kaduna State, threatened that the North would make Nigeria ungovernable, should Jonathan or anyone from the South win the 2011 presidential election, claiming that such would amount to denying the North it's birthright of ruling Nigeria. 7* It is in the same North barbaric statements like this were uttered in 2011: ”BABOON AND DOG WILL BE SOAKED IN BLOOD”. And what was the outcome - carnage and murder of many Southerners and Christians in the North, including many Youth Corps members when Buhari lost the 2011 presidential election? 8* That true to that threat, upon the victory of Jonathan from the 2011 presidential election, massive violence was unleashed from the North by a group which called itself Boko Haram and which repeatedly took responsibility for unending mayhem which began with the killing of Youth Corp members who worked ad-hoc for INEC in that election. 9* As the barbaric killings and destructions reigned, especially with the attack by Boko Haram on the UN Building and Force Headquarters in Abuja, the Lower Niger Congress publicly posited that the nexus between the aforementioned threat by ACF's, Lawal Kaita and the Boko Haram's bloody campaigns summarily destroyed any prospects for keeping the Nigeria Union. 10* "It was, therefore, no surprise that in October 2013, following the bold announcement by President Jonathan, presenting the sudden prospect of revisiting the master-servant constitutional arrangements of Nigeria infuriated the warmongering born-to-rule Caliphate whose cause was championed by the same ACF, and who, supported by their allies from the renegade wing of the Yoruba Southwest, launched a vicious, frontal attack on the initiative, teaming on the floor of the Conference into a majority, and driving the Conference into its first major decision, i.e. NOT TO DISCUSS THE TERMS OF NIGERIA'S UNITY. The rest of the Conference was a jamboree that provided a luxurious platform for the North/SW Alliance, parading itself as a new political party named APC, to fine-tune their violent March to the do-or-die 2015 general elections." 11* Oba of Lagos Threat on Igbos Over 2015 Governorship http://expressng.com/2015/04/video-oba-rilwan-akiolu-threatening-igbos-in-lagos/ Oba Rilwane Akiolu of Lagos to Igbos - Vote APC or Perish: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=87u255UM6Ro |
Re: Wake Up Call For Igbos As PDP Zones 2019 Presidential Ticket To North. by Nobody: 8:32am On Oct 01, 2015 |
QuotaSystem: Who else trembles at the mere mention of Biaf... if not quota-system products? |
Re: Wake Up Call For Igbos As PDP Zones 2019 Presidential Ticket To North. by fkaz(m): 8:49am On Oct 01, 2015 |
ArodewilliamsT: And to think that northern won't vote for a yorubaman against another northern in an election is a great mistake, at least Jonathan is a good example in 2011. Another example is Abiola vs Tofa, Obasanjo vs Buhari. If not for SW, Buhari won't have won the last election. Another point is that, Obasanjo still command a lot of respect in north today after Buhari, so he can influence them. An average northern knows that, it is the SW that is still keeping Nigeria together. So they can't totally go against the wish of a yoruba president, when the time come. 1 Like |
Re: Wake Up Call For Igbos As PDP Zones 2019 Presidential Ticket To North. by QuotaSystem: 8:52am On Oct 01, 2015 |
xtrorse: QuotaSystem: |
Re: Wake Up Call For Igbos As PDP Zones 2019 Presidential Ticket To North. by genearts(m): 8:52am On Oct 01, 2015 |
chukwudi44: How can you be comparing an in house election of lawmakers to a presidential elections?? 1 Like |
Re: Wake Up Call For Igbos As PDP Zones 2019 Presidential Ticket To North. by Nobody: 9:28am On Oct 01, 2015 |
chukwudi44:knock it off! People aren't ready to return to their vomit called PDP. Moreover, who's credible without blemish in the party? chukwudi44:Tinubu didn't ruin the Southern unity, GEJ did. He forgot how the SW voted massively for him even when they were tired of PDP. How did he reward them? He called them motor park touts and marginalised them by giving all juicy post to SE and SS who ruined hi government with corruption and impunity and turned him into a tribal president with poor performance. Am so surprised that you chose to ignore all of that so as to blame Tinubu. chukwudi44:you think people still give a fvck about about PDP? And you think APC isn't aware of the above calculations? APC will go for the jugular of PDP using their corrupt cases against. This will further paint the party bad in such a way that the northerners won't even want to return or support the party. chukwudi44:so your hausa-hating igbo people will vote for an hausa man? chukwudi44:tell your people to stop hating on the yorubas, cos without them they can't progress politically. Ask SS. |
Re: Wake Up Call For Igbos As PDP Zones 2019 Presidential Ticket To North. by Nobody: 9:37am On Oct 01, 2015 |
QuotaSystem: I know you're drunk already with the crude oil from another's backyard. You shall keep on having heartaches whenever the Igbos sneeze... Fulani Lawmaker/Congressman claiming that the crude oil in Bayelsa State belong to Jigawa State: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9c6GGPu286U |
Re: Wake Up Call For Igbos As PDP Zones 2019 Presidential Ticket To North. by IGBOSON1: 10:29am On Oct 01, 2015 |
aresa: ^^^Mate, what is your understanding of a country a nation? We purport to be a nation abi......'one Nigeria' abi? What do you think this entails as regards freedom of movement around the country? In your first paragraph, there's a hole....a gap in the analysis regarding Ndigbos' travails in this country in the late 60s! After 'tens of thosands of Igbos were slaughtered up north' as you put it, what was the outcome? What was the outcome when Nigeria was unwilling or unable to guarantee and protect the lives and properties of Igbos and other Easterners? Anybody reading your post will think that 'ibos' were slaughtered in their tens of thousands.....they did nothing about it......and when the mindless targeting of innocent civilians finally abated, Ndigbo returned back to the north just like that! If you weren't so daft you'd understand that the fact Ndigbo are found in the north and other parts of Nigeria is due to the 'one Nigeria' you fools blindly fought for and brought them back into....despite the fact they made it perfectly clear they don't want to be co-compatriots with your hateful bigoted self! If Ndigbo steered clear of the north now, you'd be the first to scream that Ndigbo don't want to leave the past behind, forgive and all that! Despite the wickedness this country has meted out on Ndigbo as a people and despite our agitations for equity and justice, of the three major ethnic groups in Nigeria, who do you think is living Nigeria the way it should be more than the other two? If you were to ask the minority christian groups presently being decimated in the middle-belt who, between the Igbo and Fulani, who they'd prefer to have as neighbours and compatriots, who do you think they'd pick? The fact one part is agitating for self-determination while the other two are either sitting on the fence or threatening war, what does that tell you regarding who needs the other the most? The claim Igboland is unproductive and economically depressed!....You must be having a laugh! Just what is your understanding of the limits of Igboland? Do you know Igbland extends into the oil and gas rich parts of Rivers State to which yours truly belongs? If not for the blatant cheating and greed which saw economic enablers like an international airport and seaport being sited in one region for decades and given undue preference while seaports and airports in the east were systematically undermined and downgraded....if not for this what do you think would be the fate of your region today? Give Igboland resource control and self-determination today and watch us soar! Resource control and true fiscal-federalism gives hateful leeching scum like you nightmares and this is one of the reasons you support that Buhari....admit it! 2 Likes |
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