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Pls Someone Explain This About Islam To Laymen... by drnoel: 5:14pm On Sep 29, 2014 |
Islam, a religion of peace... Quran 9:123 ye who believe! Fight the unbelievers who are close to you, and let the m find harshness in you, and know that Allah is with those who fear Him. يَا أَيُّهَا الَّذِينَ آمَنُوا قَاتِلُوا الَّذِينَ يَلُونَكُمْ مِنَ الْكُفَّارِ وَلْيَجِدُوا فِيكُمْ غِلْظَةً ۚ وَاعْلَمُوا أَنَّ اللَّهَ مَعَ الْمُتَّقِينَ Ya ayyuha allatheena amanoo qatiloo allatheena yaloonakum mina alkuffari walyajidoo feekum ghilthatan waiAAlamoo anna Allaha maAAa almuttaqeena Quran 9: 29 Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His apostle nor acknowledge the religion of truth (even if they are) of the People of the Book until they pay the Jizya (tribute) with willing submission and feel themselves subdued. قَاتِلُوا الَّذِينَ لَا يُؤْمِنُونَ بِاللَّهِ وَلَا بِالْيَوْمِ الْآخِرِ وَلَا يُحَرِّمُونَ مَا حَرَّمَ اللَّهُ وَرَسُولُهُ وَلَا يَدِينُونَ دِينَ الْحَقِّ مِنَ الَّذِينَ أُوتُوا الْكِتَابَ حَتَّىٰ يُعْطُوا الْجِزْيَةَ عَنْ يَدٍ وَهُمْ صَاغِرُونَ Qatiloo allatheena la yuminoona biAllahi wala bialyawmi alakhiri wala yuharrimoona ma harrama Allahu warasooluhu wala yadeenoona deena alhaqqi mina allatheena ootoo alkitaba hatta yuAAtoo aljizyata AAan yadin wahum saghiroona Quran 9:73 O Prophet! Strive hard against the unbelievers and the Hypocrites and be firm against them. Their abode is hell an evil refuge indeed. يَا أَيُّهَا النَّبِيُّ جَاهِدِ الْكُفَّارَ وَالْمُنَافِقِينَ وَاغْلُظْ عَلَيْهِمْ ۚ وَمَأْوَاهُمْ جَهَنَّمُ ۖ وَبِئْسَ الْمَصِيرُ Ya ayyuha alnnabiyyu jahidi alkuffara waalmunafiqeena waoghluth AAalayhim wamawahum jahannamu wabisa almaseeru Quran 9:20 Those who believed (in the Oneness of Allah - Islamic Monotheism) and emigrated and strove hard and fought in Allah's Cause with their wealth and their lives are far higher in degree with Allah. They are the successful. الَّذِينَ آمَنُوا وَهَاجَرُوا وَجَاهَدُوا فِي سَبِيلِ اللَّهِ بِأَمْوَالِهِمْ وَأَنفُسِهِمْ أَعْظَمُ دَرَجَةً عِندَ اللَّهِ ۚ وَأُولَٰئِكَ هُمُ الْفَائِزُونَ Allatheena amanoo wahajaroowajahadoo fee sabeeli Allahi bi-amwalihimwaanfusihim aAAthamu darajatan AAinda Allahiwaola-ika humu alfa-izoon Surah 4:74 So let those fight in the cause of Allah who sell the life of this world for the Hereafter. And he who fights in the cause of Allah and is killed or achieves victory - We will bestow upon him a great reward. فَلْيُقَاتِلْ فِي سَبِيلِ اللَّهِ الَّذِينَ يَشْرُونَ الْحَيَاةَ الدُّنْيَا بِالْآخِرَةِ ۚ وَمَن يُقَاتِلْ فِي سَبِيلِ اللَّهِ فَيُقْتَلْ أَوْ يَغْلِبْ فَسَوْفَ نُؤْتِيهِ أَجْرًا عَظِيمًا Falyuqatil fee sabeeli Allahiallatheena yashroona alhayata addunyabil-akhirati waman yuqatil fee sabeeli Allahifayuqtal aw yaghlib fasawfa nu/teehi ajran AAatheema Surah 4:89 They wish you would disbelieve as they disbelieved so you would be alike. So do not take from among them allies until they emigrate for the cause of Allah . But if they turn away, then seize them and kill them wherever you find them and take not from among them any ally or helper. مِنْهُمْ أَوْلِيَاءَ حَتَّىٰ يُهَاجِرُوا فِي سَبِيلِ اللَّهِ ۚ فَإِن تَوَلَّوْا فَخُذُوهُمْ وَاقْتُلُوهُمْ حَيْثُ وَجَدتُّمُوهُمْ ۖ وَلَا تَتَّخِذُوا مِنْهُمْ وَلِيًّا وَلَا نَصِيرًا Waddoo law takfuroona kama kafaroofatakoonoona sawaan fala tattakhithoo minhumawliyaa hatta yuhajiroo fee sabeeliAllahi fa-in tawallaw fakhuthoohum waqtuloohumhaythu wajadtumoohum wala tattakhithoominhum waliyyan wala naseera Surah 9:5 And when the sacred months have passed, then kill the polytheists wherever you find them and capture them and besiege them and sit in wait for them at every place of ambush. But if they should repent, establish prayer, and give zakah, let them [go] on their way. Indeed, Allah is Forgiving and Merciful. فَإِذَا انسَلَخَ الْأَشْهُرُ الْحُرُمُ فَاقْتُلُوا الْمُشْرِكِينَ حَيْثُ وَجَدتُّمُوهُمْ وَخُذُوهُمْ وَاحْصُرُوهُمْ وَاقْعُدُوا لَهُمْ كُلَّ مَرْصَدٍ ۚ فَإِن تَابُوا وَأَقَامُوا الصَّلَاةَ وَآتَوُا الزَّكَاةَ فَخَلُّوا سَبِيلَهُمْ ۚ إِنَّ اللَّهَ غَفُورٌ رَّحِيمٌ Fa-itha insalakha al-ashhuru alhurumufaqtuloo almushrikeena haythu wajadtumoohum wakhuthoohumwahsuroohum waqAAudoo lahum kulla marsadinfa-in taboo waaqamoo assalatawaatawoo azzakata fakhalloo sabeelahum innaAllaha ghafoorun raheem Surah 9:73 O Prophet, fight against the disbelievers and the hypocrites and be harsh upon them. And their refuge is Hell, and wretched is the destination. يَا أَيُّهَا النَّبِيُّ جَاهِدِ الْكُفَّارَ وَالْمُنَافِقِينَ وَاغْلُظْ عَلَيْهِمْ ۚ وَمَأْوَاهُمْ جَهَنَّمُ ۖ وَبِئْسَ الْمَصِيرُ Ya ayyuha annabiyyu jahidialkuffara walmunafiqeena waghluthAAalayhim wama/wahum jahannamu wabi/sa almaseer |
Re: Pls Someone Explain This About Islam To Laymen... by superstar3: 5:22pm On Sep 29, 2014 |
Peace Indeed |
Re: Pls Someone Explain This About Islam To Laymen... by Nobody: 5:47pm On Sep 29, 2014 |
Mr Op you may also like to check out these bible verses too BTW I'm a Christian 1. "Kill those who are not Christian or Jewish: You must kill those who worship another god. Exodus 22:20 .............................. 2. Kill any friend or family that worship a god that is different than your own. Deuteronomy 13:6-10 .............................. 3. Kill all the inhabitants of any city where you find people that worship differently than you. Deuteronomy 13:12-16 .............................. 4. Kill everyone who has religious views that are different than your own. Deuteronomy 17:2-7 .............................. 5. Kill anyone who refuses to listen to a priest. Deuteronomy 17:12-13 .............................. 6. Kill any false prophets. Deuteronomy 18:20 .............................. 7. Any city that doesn’t receive the followers of Jesus will be destroyed in a manner even more savage than that of Sodom and Gomorrah. Mark 6:11 .............................. 8. Matthew 10:34-36 - "Do not think that I came to bring peace on the earth; I did not come to bring peace, but a sword. 35 "For I came to set a man against his father, and a daughter against her mother, and a daughter-in-lawagainst her mother-in-law; 36 "...and a man’s enemies will be the members of his household." .............................. 9. Luke 12:51,52 - "Do you suppose that I came to grant peace on earth? I tell you, no, but rather division; 52 "for from now on five members in one household will be divided, three against two, and two against three..." .............................. 9. Luke 22:36- "And He said to them, "But now, let him who has a purse take it along, likewise also a bag, and let him who has no sword sell his robe and buy one. RELIGION IS THE WORST THING THAT HAPPENED TO THIS WORLD!! 6 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Pls Someone Explain This About Islam To Laymen... by drnoel: 6:26pm On Sep 29, 2014 |
Yungwizzzy: Mr Op you may also like to check out these bible verses too I agree completely with ur views on religion. I still believe in God but I don't practice any religion anymore. |
Re: Pls Someone Explain This About Islam To Laymen... by drnoel: 7:19am On Oct 04, 2014 |
Still an explanation is called for. I need one. |
Re: Pls Someone Explain This About Islam To Laymen... by atrix4g(m): 8:22am On Oct 06, 2014 |
For the layman to have read all this, just tell him to take his time and read the whole Quran. Na small remain den he will understand better. May also read the whole Bible. Den he should com back and tell us wat he has seen or believe 2 Likes |
Re: Pls Someone Explain This About Islam To Laymen... by ilyasmuy: 6:10am On Oct 01, 2015 |
I just saw this post on your profile. It really hurts me you havent got answer to your question To answer the question Too many times Non-Muslims quote Quranic verses WITHOUT even knowing how the Quran was descended unto mankind. The Quran was NOT descended as a complete book in one time. Rather it was descended VERSE BY VERSE in different occasions. Each verse was descended in an event in Muslim history to which the meaning of the verse is strongly linked. It was the idea of Prophet Muhammad's companions, not the Prophet himself, to compile all the acquired verses in one book, namely the Quran, shortly after his death for preservation & learning. Not understanding the background of the descent of every verse can make reading the Quran quite misleading, even for Muslims themselves. That's how finally ignorant take Quranic verses OUT OF CONTEXT. Go to the nearest bookstore and find the book Tafsir Ibn Kathir. It is a book with the correct explanation of the quran. It is the book that you should read your Quran WITH. After that everything will make sense. Most of the verses that you quote here ARE NOT orders for pre-emptive attacks against Non-Muslims BUT orders for Muslims to be brave and not to hesitate in their self-defense (given their minority status at that time) because Muslims HAD BEEN WRONGED beforehand. Islam is not a belief that asks you to become a fool by attacking others with no reason. If it were, Muslim preachers would have been terminated by the different nations of different beliefs, before the preachers could convey Islamic messages to them. Likewise it is not a belief that encourages cowardice. It is a fair religion. Since centuries ago, man has always spread his empire. The british empire, french empire, roman empire to name a few. Even, the yoruba people spread their empire their empire from oyo to ilorin and other parts in south west. Like all these empires, Islam was also spread to all other countries. It is a very wrong statement to say Islam was spread by sword? Tell me which empire was spread by food I will leave you with these quote from peter leykam "There are two ways of reading a religious text, historically and confessionally. A historical reading asks what this text means for a specific individual or group of people, and a confessional reading asks what it means to you as a reader. People commonly mistake the two, assuming that because you derive a specific meaning from a text that is the meaning all readers must derive. Meaning doesn't exist in a book, but arises out of the interaction between a book and a reader in a specific historical and social context. Thus, you cannot make conclusions about a religion based on what is in a book without understanding how that book is used by specific groups of adherents" Regards 4 Likes |
Re: Pls Someone Explain This About Islam To Laymen... by OLAJADON: 2:55pm On Jan 14, 2016 |
what dont you understand their atleast . you can read english Anyway it means dont attack the infidels(christians and jews) as long as they did not attack you but if they do, defend yourselves. very straight forward |
Re: Pls Someone Explain This About Islam To Laymen... by Ahmed4002(m): 9:18am On Jan 15, 2016 |
drnoel: when they accuse the Quran for no reason while they have truly horrible things in their own books. 1. Slaughter Of Innocent Women And Children In The Bible Deuteronomy Chapter 2:32-37 So Moses and his army killed women and children. Moses broke the 6th commmandment, thou shall not kill ANYONE. Or I see, when its in war it is okay? Yet when Muslims say the 6th commandment is followed, but in war its different, Christians say nooooo. Either way, The Quran does not say kill women and children, I CHALLENGE YOU TO BRING THE VERSE RIGHT NOW . We see it in your Bible, one of your greatest prophets killing women and children by God’s permission. Note Moses and his army did this to many cities, verse 37 says there was not one city which was strong enough in the plural sense, hence up to 6 or 7 cities were destroyed with its women and children. 2. Christians Who Convert To Other Religions Should Be Stoned To Death According To The Bible Deuteronomy Chapter 13:6-11 3. Rape Of Virgins Allowed In Bible In Certain Cases “25 But if a man find a betrothed damsel in the field, and the man force her, and lie with her: then the man only that lay with her shall die. 26 But unto the damsel thou shalt do nothing; there is in the damsel no sin worthy of death: for as when a man riseth against his neighbor, and slayeth him, even so is this matter: 27 For he found her in the field, and the betrothed damsel cried, and there was none to save her. 28 If a man find a damsel that is a virgin, which is not betrothed, and lay hold on her, and lie with her, and they be found; 29 Then the man that lay with her shall give unto the damsel’s father fifty shekels of silver, and she shall be his wife; because he hath humbled her, he may not put her away all his days” Deuteronomy Chapter 22:25-29 So as you can see, rape is allowed in certain cases in the Bible. When the victim is a virgin, she must marry the rapist, if the victim is not a virgin then the rapist is put to death. This law is a shame and insult To Molest victims, you bring me one single lady who would want to marry her rapist Now let me make it easier for the reader, I will basically post what the Christian God will do as a punishment to those who wouldnt follow him: 1- God will cause his people to be murdered and massacared, and they will flee in all directions. 2- People will beget children but will not be able to enjoy them because they will be sent into slavery . 3- People’s children shall be given to other people and the parents will wish they could have them back but they wont. 4- cannabilism, yes cannabilism! 53 And thou shalt eat the fruit of thine own body, the flesh of thy sons and of thy daughters, which the LORD thy God hath given thee 5- God will send diseases to the people 6- You will get married, and your wife will sleep with other men . These above things are some of the punishments that the God of the Bible will do to his people if they dont follow him. 4. Killing Of Children And Married Women In The Bible “17 Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him . 18 But all the women children, that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves” Numbers Chapter 31:17-18 And you have no shame in blaming the Quran and misquoting the quran without finding the meaning of those verses when you have such sadistically evil verses in your own books! I think that should do,if you need more then I can provide for. this without a doubt proves that the Book which you quote is nothing but a terror book without a doubt. I challenge you to come and tell me those verses which I posted are not evil and not terrorism , I CHALLENGE YOU TO SAY IT! your silly excuse would be it's OT |
Re: Pls Someone Explain This About Islam To Laymen... by Ahmed4002(m): 9:23am On Jan 15, 2016 |
drnoel: There you go my friend, verse 9:29 doesn’t encourage the muslims to do terrorism. It is a perfectly fair and just verse. Just throw this article on the face of anybody who tries to misrepresent islam to you in the future. EVERY AUTHENTIC TRANSLATION OF THE QURAN HAS THE WORD “UNTIL” OR “TILL” IN THE VERSE 9:29 I could lay my hands on 7 different english translations of the quran and ALL OF THEM HAVE THE CONDITION:- 1. “[And] fight against those who – despite having been vouchsafed revelation [aforetime] – do not [truly] believe either in God or the last Day, and do not consider forbidden that which God and His Apostle have forbidden, and do not follow the religion of truth [which God has enjoined upon the], till they [agree to] pay the exemption tax with a willing hand , after having been humbled [in war]” 9:29 Asad’s Translation FIGHTING NEED NOT ALWAYS BE PHYSICAL, IT CAN ALSO BE INTELLECTUAL Finally, people might now say well isn’t Islam violent because Muslims are commanded to fight those who do not believe in God and so on etc etc. Not really, because fighting in this verse does not explicitly mean physical violence. Observe the words in the above verses like “ willingly” , “willing submission” , “readily” etc. Here it is spoken about bringing a change from within the hearts of people which is brought about intellectually . There are many ways in which you fight against somebody that does not involve a physical aspect. You can fight someone with the tongue, using your wisdom and telling him about the truth, you are fighting against the lies that person is propagating and eventually with your tongue you will speak the truth and crush his lies leading him to the truth. So fighting does not have to only be physical. But alas! We totally over look these things when we mindlessly base allegations on the Quran. I never comment on any religion until I have read and understood ALL their scriptures. I don’t just google out some anti-religious sites to come up with instant allegations. This is so unfair |
Re: Pls Someone Explain This About Islam To Laymen... by Hydris(m): 7:29pm On Jan 18, 2016 |
ilyasmuy:may Allah (swt) increase you in knowledge abundantly.. You've gone some way in enlightening the laymen Jazakhallah Khairan |
Re: Pls Someone Explain This About Islam To Laymen... by DeathStroke007(m): 8:17am On Jan 19, 2016 |
drnoel: you no get sub? or no mosque for your area.. wea you fit go ask alfa or imam.. anyways, get a Quran that's with commentaries and read... those fight doesn't mean war.. means strive.. sey you hear |
Re: Pls Someone Explain This About Islam To Laymen... by Slikbae: 9:48am On Jan 25, 2016 |
balderdash!! Muslims you can deceive yourselves and practice al taquiya from now till Christ comes but know this, you cannot deceive the people all the time. Your Mohammed killed and killed and killed, yet you come here to say to say those verses are read out of context? How exactly did Mohammed "strive"?? No where in history has the word "strive" been replaced or considered synonymous with "kill" , or "war". Common sense is not common. |
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