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Re: Russia Begins Air Strikes In Syria Against ISIS by Shymm3x: 11:43am On Oct 01, 2015
uselessgoat:


stop misleading people. Russia cannot withstand britain in europe. Moscow will be a graveyard within 1hr.

Lmao. grin

I don't even know how to reply this one after Trident became a waste of tax payers' money. £20 billion waste.

Please, leave the UK out of ya US vs. Russia war - the UK government and people are two different entities.

Let Philip Hammond and David Cameron go fight their war alone. grin

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Re: Russia Begins Air Strikes In Syria Against ISIS by lozairio(m): 11:43am On Oct 01, 2015
CSTR2:
The way you guys overestimate russia is funny.
You just wait till a republican gets into the white house and watch how putin is put in his place.
Just like carly fiorina said, the US have talked too much with russia. It is time for an overwhelming action.
That Is what these guys don't understand if anyone as hotheaded as ronald reagan was president such nonsense won't be happening
Re: Russia Begins Air Strikes In Syria Against ISIS by Nobody: 11:43am On Oct 01, 2015
uselessgoat:


stop misleading people. Russia cannot withstand britain in europe. Moscow will be a graveyard within 1hr.


Lol.. Don't trust the Russians.. Britain is no match for them. Britain licks the American as3es

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Re: Russia Begins Air Strikes In Syria Against ISIS by dayo23(f): 11:43am On Oct 01, 2015
uselessgoat:


stop misleading people. Russia cannot withstand britain in europe. Moscow will be a graveyard within 1hr.
don't mind the useless cow, aljazeera don brainwash am
Re: Russia Begins Air Strikes In Syria Against ISIS by Nobody: 11:44am On Oct 01, 2015
lozairio:
you are the one who know nothing about international politics you are terribly misinformed for thinking russia will america turn into a radioactive ash without them sharing the same fate with america bro it is a mutual assured destruction in a nuclear war with america but a defeat for the russians in a conventional war that mad military that any aggression against will be responded with their nukes because they don't have a well equipped army to face america in a conventional war

You are dreaming man. Victory in a conventional war? The Taliban who fought with sticks and stones defeated the United States not to talk about the billions the US. used in bribing Iraqi to stop killing Americans. Let's not even take it back to Vietnam or the Korean war. You read too much MSM (Mainstream Media)
Re: Russia Begins Air Strikes In Syria Against ISIS by cdoffx(m): 11:44am On Oct 01, 2015
CSTR2:
Don't mind this conspiracy theorists. They are just raving anti-americanists.
American funded isis would be very very powerful, much more than it is now.
Most of the nations receiving direct military aid like Isreal, egypt, saudi-arabia, e.t.c. have become military hegemons.
A US funded ISIS would never be curtailed by asaad .

You need to see Saudi army running from houti rebels and American machines burning hard. America can fund, arm and train you how you perform on battlefield is dependent on you.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mVJFKKwgpkA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tUAqWq2gYWhg
Re: Russia Begins Air Strikes In Syria Against ISIS by jomoh: 11:44am On Oct 01, 2015
BALLOSKI:
the only reason why you have Russians now in the theatre is because asad is involved. I can categorically tell you that I'm a fan of asad , and you can also become his fan if you have read what dic'k Cheney said about their plans on how to destroy Iraq before bringing Syria to near rubbles.



I support Assad
I love Putin
I respect Russia

Do you have the link to the statement. I would love to read it.

Those americans are bastards, they are the main problem of this world not those innocent middle eastern muslims. They are mainly using divide and rule and underground propaganda to unsettle them.

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Re: Russia Begins Air Strikes In Syria Against ISIS by dayo23(f): 11:45am On Oct 01, 2015
lozairio:
That Is what these guys don't understand if anyone as hotheaded as ronald reagan was president such nonsense won't be happening
that is what they don't know, even during bush did u hear the mention of Russia
Re: Russia Begins Air Strikes In Syria Against ISIS by niggi4life(m): 11:46am On Oct 01, 2015
omenka:
What exactly does the US want for Christ's sake?? Time and again, coalition airstrikes have proven totally ineffective against ISIS, yet they grumble about Russia's emergence on the theatre.

US caused all the mess we are seeing in the mideast today. The root of all the chaos could be traced to the removal of Sadam and then exacerbated by the removal of Gadaffi. The power vacuum created by their removal gave the terrorists the much needed impetus to emerge from their caves and launch such viscous campaigns as never seen in modern times.

These were strongmen that sort of kept belligerent non state actors at bay, but today, we don't get to see headlines from the region without ISIS, Houti Rebels and those from Libya featuring prominently.

In this campaign, I'd put my money on the effectiveness of the Russians than the US. The Pakis were able to mitigate the excesses of the Taliban soon after US airstrikes ceased (or drastically reduced) in their country- what I'm saying is that the US isn't known to fix armed conflicts anywhere in the world either with boots on ground or jets in the air, their presence rather tends to make the situation deteriorate.

The only problem with this is that Asad stays, against the desires of most of the citizens of the country. The Arab spring was never meant for them, I guess Tunisia and Egypt were just lucky.
Bros, One Big Alomo for you!!!!! You have said it all

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Re: Russia Begins Air Strikes In Syria Against ISIS by ToyinDipo(m): 11:46am On Oct 01, 2015
abdulkayus:


So it is rhr US that is funding the rebels and ISIS that are known for peace?
Which peace did the US bought to the countries that they have invaded or intervene; Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya and now Syria.
Tell me

I didn't get your point clearly, however I will say this. It is clear that US are trying to monopolize the world peace, and a lot of times with bias towards their own selfishness. In this case, there involvement in Syrian war is clashing with Russian interest.
Re: Russia Begins Air Strikes In Syria Against ISIS by Nobody: 11:46am On Oct 01, 2015
lozairio:
That Is what these guys don't understand if anyone as hotheaded as ronald reagan was president such nonsense won't be happening

Do you know what the outcome of a war between Russia and USA would be?

Who are the allies of both nations?
Re: Russia Begins Air Strikes In Syria Against ISIS by Nobody: 11:47am On Oct 01, 2015
I'm loving this conversation
Re: Russia Begins Air Strikes In Syria Against ISIS by omenka(m): 11:48am On Oct 01, 2015
Shymm3x:


Stop reading simple illustrations backwards. I said toys compared to what Russia has in stock (to retaliate with).

The US defense missiles he was alluding to are the Patriot missiles and even the Russian s300s are superior to those missiles. Now, Russia has the s500, which is the greatest defense missiles ever and the Topol that can wreck havoc on anyone. grin

Don't believe the hype - no one can defeat Russia in continental Europe.
In my opinion, all of Europe's military combined, NATO inclusive, can't overrun Russia. There's a reason for this- most EU countries have military arms that are nearly nonexistent. The end of WWII ushered in an era of peace and boundless prosperity. Countries were much more concerned about rebuilding their economies than equipping their armies. What they never gave up developing was their intelligence gathering infrastructure/spying capacity. The intelligence collected is shared with their allies, especially member states of NATO upon which their collective national security depends.

In fact the sizes of the countries of the EU, take Luxembourg for example, makes it very difficult to defend themselves militarily. Their population is very small, much less the size of their armies, with France, UK, Germany (?), Spain and Italy being the exceptions.

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Re: Russia Begins Air Strikes In Syria Against ISIS by dayo23(f): 11:49am On Oct 01, 2015
ayodele234:


You are dreaming man. Victory in a conventional war? The Taliban who fought with sticks and stones defeated the United States not to talk about the billions the US. used in bribing Iraqi to stop killing Americans. Let's not even take it back to Vietnam or the Korean war. You read too much MSM (Mainstream Media)
senseless comment
Re: Russia Begins Air Strikes In Syria Against ISIS by Nobody: 11:51am On Oct 01, 2015
abdulkayus:


Which Britain?
Who is Britain?
Can they face te Russia alone?
Even their ally US can't face Russia alone, that was the reason for forming NATO


PUTIN IS AFRAID OF BRITAIN IN EUROPE. BRITAIN WILL DESTROY RUSSIA WITHOUT ANY ALLY. BRITIAN DOESNT SHOW OFF ITS MILITARY MIGHT LIKE THE NOISE MAKER CALLED PUTIN

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Re: Russia Begins Air Strikes In Syria Against ISIS by Nobody: 11:52am On Oct 01, 2015
Shymm3x:
Is this the beginning of the next big war or probably the third world war?

Just one miscalculation would most likely lead to a big war with how the Iraqi and Syrian air space are crowded with fighter jets from different countries whose interests don't align. The Americans and Arabs gulf sheikhs won't let their billions of dollars worth of investment in ISIS and all these Jihadist groups go to waste like that. Ditto Israel who benefits the most from how unstable these countries are.

Expect a long war - Syria and Iraq are the battlefield for now, and it will most likely move to other countries in Euroasia.

Russia has woken the ghost of USSR back from the dead via Putin - the battle line as been drawn. Enjoy the movie. grin
I see a reinacarnation of Vietnam war on a larger scale.

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Re: Russia Begins Air Strikes In Syria Against ISIS by lozairio(m): 11:53am On Oct 01, 2015
Shymm3x:


Lmao!

Is that how to back up military posturing and sabre rattling, especially after talking about military consequences? grin

Russia is reacting to the encircling of the country and they know the ultimate prize is Siberia.

Ukraine is safe now and it's a buffer zone, with Crimea now under Russia. And Syria is next...so Russian Navy has enough to defend itself.

All the lousy missile defense systems in Poland and stealth nuclear missile systems in Germany are toys compared to what Russia has in stock.

It's a new century for chess players...enjoy the game. It's going to be a long century.
Pls what does america has in stock that is more dangerous than the stealth missile system in system in germany
Re: Russia Begins Air Strikes In Syria Against ISIS by Nobody: 11:54am On Oct 01, 2015
omenka:
What exactly does the US want for Christ's sake?? Time and again, coalition airstrikes have proven totally ineffective against ISIS, yet they grumble about Russia's emergence on the theatre.

US caused all the mess we are seeing in the mideast today. The root of all the chaos could be traced to the removal of Sadam and then exacerbated by the removal of Gadaffi. The power vacuum created by their removal gave the terrorists the much needed impetus to emerge from their caves and launch such viscous campaigns as never seen in modern times.

These were strongmen that sort of kept belligerent non state actors at bay, but today, we don't get to see headlines from the region without ISIS, Houti Rebels and those from Libya featuring prominently.

In this campaign, I'd put my money on the effectiveness of the Russians than the US. The Pakis were able to mitigate the excesses of the Taliban soon after US airstrikes ceased (or drastically reduced) in their country- what I'm saying is that the US isn't known to fix armed conflicts anywhere in the world either with boots on ground or jets in the air, their presence rather tends to make the situation deteriorate.

The only problem with this is that Asad stays, against the desires of most of the citizens of the country. The Arab spring was never meant for them, I guess Tunisia and Egypt were just lucky.
Thumbs up for this.

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Re: Russia Begins Air Strikes In Syria Against ISIS by CyberWolf: 11:58am On Oct 01, 2015
All this crisis are cursed by USA. You are funding FSA to to fight Assad led government..These guys are mostly mercenaries that came from different countries round the world to fight for money. They will always fight for one that pays higher.

The Saudis offered higher pay which led to the formation of ISIS. The remaining members of FSA saw it as a power tussle between them and ISIS even though Assad led government remains the general enemy. While all these things are going on, you are killing and displacing innocent civilians because they can't be protected by the Assad led government , who is fighting both ISIS and FSA simultaneously thus has no time to care for her citizens.

This same thing happened in Iraq and Libya..After the killing of their leaders, different factions of rebel/terrorists that arose started fighting themselves for power supremacy thus leading to the total destruction of the country.

That's why Putin told the White House instead of them to fix the problems they created in Iraq & Libya, they are busy creating another one in Syria. That's why Russia and it's ally said enough is enough. They decided to start with the neutralization of FSA while Assad forces will have enough resources to deal with ISIS. Once Russia is done with FSA, they will face ISIS. Once these two monsters are dealt with, other splinter forces will go back to their shells.

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Re: Russia Begins Air Strikes In Syria Against ISIS by seunmsg(m): 11:58am On Oct 01, 2015
ollah1:



dude he said the truth, Americans only attack weak nations.. They dare not attack Russia and China. When the Crimea ish was so strong and heated, America would have attacked Russia only if Russia was a weak nation. But the truth is they are both afraid of themselves and they both have strong military. The two presidents are MAD.

Why will America attack Russia over a problem created by the EU? The Ukrainian crisis is an EU and NATO problem. America only took side with their western ally. If the allies don't want war, why should America single handedly go to war against Russia?

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Re: Russia Begins Air Strikes In Syria Against ISIS by Shymm3x: 11:58am On Oct 01, 2015
omenka:
In my opinion, all of Europe's military combined, NATO inclusive, can't override Russia. There's a reason for this- most EU countries had military arms that are nearly nonexistent. The end of WWII ushered in an era of peace and boundless prosperity. Countries were much more concerned about rebuilding their economies than equipping their armies. What they never gave up developing was their intelligence gathering infrastructure/spying capacity. The intelligence collected is shared with their allies, especially member states of NATO upon which their collective national security depends.

In fact the sizes of the countries of the EU, take Luxembourg for example, makes it very difficult to defend themselves militarily. Their population is very small, much less the size of their armies, with France, UK, Germany (?), Spain and Italy being the exceptions.

Europe generally doesn't have any stomach for war - after fighting two brutal world wars and nations were carved out to maintain territorial integrity and for prosperity. The elephant in the room is the US which is hellbent on world domination. And for the US to achieve total domination - Russia has to fall under its sphere of influence - especially Siberia, hence the US always label Siberia as the second biggest prize in the world. Also, the road to Asia, goes through Russia and the whole of Euroasia is very strategic to the US. Another reason why the US wants a weak and fragmented Russia.

Let to Europe - most Europeans want a unified Europe, with Russia as part of it. But the US won't let that happen. Europe is a very small continent and adding Russia to it, would increase its size and reach - and open a lot of doors to Asia. That's what Europe wants.

Militarily, at the moment, European countries aren't that strong (compared to other world powers). France is France - the country will always cower under intense pressure militarily. With the UK - the empire died time ago and the country cares more about the money coming through London than war...and apart from creating an effective and small military, the UK has no stomach for war. Germany hasn't recovered from World War 2 and its military is in a very bad shape due to the never ending occupation by the yanks. Ditto Italy and its 3rd rate military.

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Re: Russia Begins Air Strikes In Syria Against ISIS by lozairio(m): 11:59am On Oct 01, 2015
ayodele234:


You are dreaming man. Victory in a conventional war? The Taliban who fought with sticks and stones defeated the United States not to talk about the billions the US. used in bribing Iraqi to stop killing Americans. Let's not even take it back to Vietnam or the Korean war. You read too much MSM (Mainstream Media)
how did the taliban defeat the US with sticks and were ousted from power in afghan bros ur comment is senseless men with sticks fighting men with Guns and defeated them bros think before typing pls
Re: Russia Begins Air Strikes In Syria Against ISIS by otokx(m): 12:00pm On Oct 01, 2015
The US made a mistake in Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya and now want to mess up Syria but for Russia.

The humanitarian crisis in Europe is a direct consequence for the failure of US foreign policy, Nigeria should be careful.

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Re: Russia Begins Air Strikes In Syria Against ISIS by Shymm3x: 12:01pm On Oct 01, 2015
ECOTERRORS:
I see a reinacarnation of Vietnam war on a larger scale.

The yanks aren't suicidal - they will keep this as a proxy war and keep supplying ISIS and the Jihadists stinger missiles through the back door, while telling everyone that they're also fighting them, with a little bit of information war against Russia and Putin.

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Re: Russia Begins Air Strikes In Syria Against ISIS by Shymm3x: 12:02pm On Oct 01, 2015
lozairio:
Pls what does america has in stock that is more dangerous than the stealth missile system in system in germany

Lmao at Stealth missile system in Germany.

The Russia would destroy that before it leaves where it's. grin

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Re: Russia Begins Air Strikes In Syria Against ISIS by omenka(m): 12:02pm On Oct 01, 2015
ECOTERRORS:
Thumbs up for this.
Thanks.
Re: Russia Begins Air Strikes In Syria Against ISIS by Nobody: 12:03pm On Oct 01, 2015
vicadex07:

With sticks and stones
Sorry grin

who told you that! We have the F-7 Ni, Alpha jets, the Roland SAM system, the Igirigi APC, the Gulma drone, NNS Centenery, NNS Andoni, NNS Aradu, NNS Thunder, T-72 MBTs, OBJ 006 riffle, etc. We can confidently fight in the war.

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Re: Russia Begins Air Strikes In Syria Against ISIS by lozairio(m): 12:04pm On Oct 01, 2015
ollah1:


Do you know what the outcome of a war between Russia and USA would be?

Who are the allies of both nations?
it was be a mutual assured destruction in a nuclear war but for US and NATO in a conventional war
Re: Russia Begins Air Strikes In Syria Against ISIS by lozairio(m): 12:05pm On Oct 01, 2015
dayo23:
that is what they don't know, even during bush did u hear the mention of Russia
no way because they knew he was mad like them if not more than them
Re: Russia Begins Air Strikes In Syria Against ISIS by viktor01(m): 12:07pm On Oct 01, 2015
KILL THEM ALL............
Re: Russia Begins Air Strikes In Syria Against ISIS by Nobody: 12:07pm On Oct 01, 2015
lozairio:
how did the taliban defeat the US with sticks and were ousted from power in afghan bros ur comment is senseless men with sticks fighting men with Guns and defeated them bros think before typing pls
Ousted from power and they still hold large territories where they regularly launch attacks. Till this very minutes, the US. is still taking casualties. Why is the US. still keeping troops there if they won the war? Obviously you know nothing about guerrilla warfare
Re: Russia Begins Air Strikes In Syria Against ISIS by Nobody: 12:07pm On Oct 01, 2015
Shymm3x:


The yanks aren't suicidal - they will keep this as a proxy war and keep supplying ISIS and the Jihadists stinger missiles through the back door, while telling everyone that they're also fighting them, with a little bit of information war against Russia and Putin.
I still winch when the yanks appear helpless with their strikes against ISIS. The yanks should stop supplying arms to FSA and also demobilise them then declare an all out was against Isis because the yanks are still scared of the aftermath of an Assad overthrow with Libya still fresh in their minds

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