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quite dumb!

Tartar its not for kids like you. Wait wen u grow up, read it again let's see if it will make sense then. Now? You r child. You are needed for training in Sambisa.

Ajibam:
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Ajibam the biased former moderator... Wassap?

@Anas09, this dude was once a moderator on this section, he was sacked after turning out to be a christian terrorist

Rilwon:


Ajibam the biased former moderator... Wassap?

@Anas09, this dude was once a moderator on this section, he was sacked after turning out to be a christian terrorist

Biased for kicking your ass a lot of times?

tartar9:
quite dumb!

Try and think and settle down before replying things online, young man

Rilwon:


Ajibam the biased former moderator... Wassap?

@Anas09, this dude was once a moderator on this section, he was sacked after turning out to be a christian terrorist

Chai! O ma se ooo!! Wat a hard tym d guy must be going tru ryt nw. ONCE A MODERATOR!!! Pele

It really is quite dumb. Your confidence in the degree of correspondence between your thoughts and reality has no effect on what reality turns out to be. If there really is no God it makes no difference to that reality that you are unable to say with any degree of certainty that there is, or is no, God. The flimsy argument of the author is that "I am sure of my thoughts, therefore my mind was created for thinking by another mind", which frankly is coterminous with horse sheet.

Interestingly, when we try to make sure that we are not dreaming or under an illusion and attempt to devise checks, we don't check for whether there is a God who gave us minds for thinking. If I asked you OP how you are sure that you're not under the illusion that you have a nairaland account, I can bet that you won't say you know that you are not under an illusion because you have a mind which was made for thinking. We recognise what illusions are, meaning that we recognise that we can't always be sure of our thoughts. We also perform reality checks without having recourse to the issue of who created our minds and for what purpose, meaning that there are ways of certifying your thoughts outside of knowing that it was created for thinking. In a godless world we just might use these.

Other pieces of foolishness in the argument include the assumption that we can only think correctly if our minds were made for thinking, (how am I typing correctly with hands that were designed for grasping?) and that our ability to think is at an acceptable level for a mind whose purpose is to think.

And of course there is the ever present question of how well a God explains the things which we say it explains. Since Mr. Lewis is claiming that we can only be sure of our thoughts if there is an intelligence who gave us minds for thinking, he must be willing to concede that God is not sure of its thoughts (which would explain the fiasco we see in the world). How does a God who is not sure of its thoughts create minds for the purpose of thinking?

finofaya:
It really is quite dumb. Your confidence in the degree of correspondence between your thoughts and reality has no effect on what reality turns out to be. If there really is no God it makes no difference to that reality that you are unable to say with any degree of certainty that there is, or is no, God. The flimsy argument of the author is that "I am sure of my thoughts, therefore my mind was created for thinking by another mind", which frankly is coterminous with horse sheet.

Interestingly, when we try to make sure that we are not dreaming or under an illusion and attempt to devise checks, we don't check for whether there is a God who gave us minds for thinking. If I asked you OP how you are sure that you're not under the illusion that you have a nairaland account, I can bet that you won't say you know that you are not under an illusion because you have a mind which was made for thinking. We recognise what illusions are, meaning that we recognise that we can't always be sure of our thoughts. We also perform reality checks without having recourse to the issue of who created our minds and for what purpose, meaning that there are ways of certifying your thoughts outside of knowing that it was created for thinking. In a godless world we just might use these.

Other pieces of foolishness in the argument include the assumption that we can only think correctly if our minds were made for thinking, (how am I typing correctly with hands that were designed for grasping?) and that our ability to think is at an acceptable level for a mind whose purpose is to think.

And of course there is the ever present question of how well a God explains the things which we say it explains. Since Mr. Lewis is claiming that we can only be sure of our thoughts if there is an intelligence who gave us minds for thinking, he must be willing to concede that God is not sure of its thoughts (which would explain the fiasco we see in the world). How does a God who is not sure of its thoughts create minds for the purpose of thinking?

How is God not sure of His thoughts because of the fiascos(failure) you see in the world?
The failures in the world is as a result of man's iniquity, God was perfect and supreme in his thoughts to the extent that there's no defect in his creations..
Surprisingly, to show how perfect his thoughts are, he has made a way of escape from the consequence of the failures caused by man, the way is the Lord Jesus Christ.
Come to him today and stop being ignorant.

If the absurd big bang theory and evolution theory is really true,it means that your brain is formed from exploding molecules and this is not constant, it changes, then why must you trust your judgement about God that comes from a bunch of unstable atoms glued together by an invisible bond.
This firmly ascertain that atheists are breed of people that are unstable in their thoughts therefore there judgements and presumptions is clouded.

Rilwon:


Ajibam the biased former moderator... Wassap?

@Anas09, this dude was once a moderator on this section, he was sacked after turning out to be a christian terrorist

Young man, let this be the last time you will type hogwash about me without knowing what really happened.. I resigned, i was not sacked. If you repeat this balderdash again, i will take it as an insult to my personality and that won't go lightly on you.
Thank you.

Ajibam:

How is God not sure of His thoughts because of the fiascos(failure) you see in the world?
The failures in the world is as a result of man's iniquity, God was perfect and supreme in his thoughts to the extent that there's no defect in his creations..
Surprisingly, to show how perfect his thoughts are, he has made a way of escape from the consequence of the failures caused by man, the way is the Lord Jesus Christ.
Come to him today and stop being ignorant.

The argument is that we can only trust our thoughts if there is an intelligence that gave us our minds for the purpose of thinking. I'm assuming that God's thoughts do not meet this criterion. Nobody created the mind of God, right?

Are you preaching?

finofaya:


The argument is that we can only trust our thoughts if there is an intelligence that gave us our minds for the purpose of thinking. I'm assuming that God's thoughts do not meet this criterion. Nobody created the mind of God, right?

That's why is an assumption(your assumption). Unfortunately, the assumption is wrong, you don't assume things about God based on the level of your own reasoning,Nobody created the mind of God and yet his thoughts are higher than ours.
Isaiah 55:8
For My thoughts are not your thoughts, Nor are your ways My ways," declares the LORD.
Isaiah 55:9
For as the heavens are higher than the earth, So are My ways higher than your ways And My thoughts than your thoughts.
Psalm 92:5
great are Your works, O LORD! Your thoughts are very deep.

Are you preaching?

Is that how you call it?
Anyways, am just throwing you a lifeline out of your miseries.
Jesus loves you!

Ajibam:

That's why is an assumption(your assumption). Unfortunately, the assumption is wrong, you don't assume things about God based on the level of your own reasoning,Nobody created the mind of God and yet his thoughts are higher than ours.

So the criterion does fit God?

Is that how you call it?
Anyways, am just throwing you a lifeline out of your miseries.
Jesus loves you!

Okay. Cool.

finofaya:


So the criterion does fit God?

Nay! Because God is not created from exploding atoms.

Ajibam:

Nay! Because God is not created from exploding atoms.

So it both fits and doesn't fit. Lol. See how your God has made defending him so confusing.

finofaya:


So it both fits and doesn't fit. Lol. See how your God has made defending him so confusing.

You are the one confused here.

Ajibam:

Young man, let this be the last time you will type hogwash about me without knowing what really happened.. I resigned, i was not sacked. If you repeat this balderdash again, i will take it as an insult to my personality and that won't go lightly on you.
Thank you.

Ajibam:

Biased for kicking your ass a lot of times?

E pain am.... mehuhehehehehe