The beauty of your wailing is astonishing yet unconvincing. Why was Obasanjo and Jonathan both Southerners not able to correct the census figure if it was truly dubious within 14 years ? The British recognised this fact early on

IGBOSON1:


What we're witnessing is a group who have successfully sold a blatant lie to the rest of us concerning their population figures, and hence have managed to get the necessary number of states -via a succession of questionable census counts- enough to be able to cause an upset when needed and dictate the pace to the rest of us!

IGBOSON1:

Newsflash mate: we all in the south are beholden politically to the rapacious and unforgiving northern political/clerical elite

Wailing does not earn vote use your head.

IGBOSON1:

Why else do you think they've consigned the outcome of the recently concluded national conference to the scrap heap!?

... because Jonathan Ebele was foolish. enough to have left it there

IGBOSON1:

Now can you tell me when the Yoruba have held power at the center without the say-so and tacit approval of the North? The two times in question (OBJs first and second coming)....we have the history books to enlighten us further! Now if a Yoruba can only be Head of State or President with the blessing of the core muslim north, what does that make you?

Another dose of wailing.
Were the Northerners able to become president without the support of the southerner. Yardua had 90% from the SS, Buhari got over 70 from the SW. The system made it mandatory you earn vote across the length n breath of Nigeria to become the president which explains the reason PMB was not able to until he got SW support.

IGBOSON1:

You call Igbos slaves to the north abi? How can this be so when we can survive without them (or your 'one Nigeria') yet they can't survive without us?

I pray you do not die of wailing. Was the North not surviving before the discovery of oil and did the North not survive without power when Obasanjo and Jonathan were ruling ?

ArodewilliamsT:


Will a northerner vote a yorubaman, if another northerner is contesting?

If Jonathan can do it in 2011 with Only a gimmick that he had no shoes am sure a Yoruba should be able to considering the trend of event n happening that facilitated his candidacy.

OfoIgbo:
Yoruba hope of fielding a Yoruba in 2019 has been destroyed by this deft move by PDP.

This is a masterstroke as Yoruba calculations have been seriously undermined.

Tinubu thought that supporting Buhari will earn him the presidency in due course as northerners will support Yoruba in return. But in actual fact, a northerner will always support yet another northerner, so Yoruba calculatiins have been upturned.

Actually, the Yorubas have completely lost out. The more I think of it, this is a wise move by SE/SS-controlled PDP. because whenever APC fields a Yoruba, PDP will field a northerner. My fellow Igbos who are looking at this move by PDP via a short term spectacle, will eventually appreciate the wizardry in this decision.


The bottomline is that Yoruba calculations, for which they betrayed a SS president have been utterly destroyed!!!!!

Have you ever considered a Fashola Elrufia ticket with your Observation ? Am talking about a Fashola that could be the minister for works.

IGBOSON1:


Give Igboland resource control and self-determination today and watch us soar! Resource control and true fiscal-federalism gives hateful leeching scum like you nightmares and this is one of the reasons you support that Buhari....admit it!

Which of what you asked did you not have before you killed Tafawa Balewa and Ahmadu Bello, then returned the country to unitary govt from con-federalism not even federalism.

How many times do you need to be told how stupid your line of argument is before you absolve it or who do you think should be held accountable for the destruction your tribe unleashed on Nigeria ?

I personally knew in 2014 that whether GEJ win or loose in 2015 power needs to be zoned to the North in 2019 if PDP wants to continue being a National party

so yes the decision by Uche Secondus and the PDP hierachy is in order

ayokellany:


If Jonathan can do it in 2011 with Only a gimmick that he had no shoes am sure a Yoruba should be able to considering the trend of event n happening that facilitated his candidacy.

Mr man, go and write it down, no yorubaman is going to become president again, not now, not in the forseeable future. Even if you contest again Shekau, yoruba will vote Yoruba, SE will vote the masters of yoruba(North), SS will vote North. Even if the north contest 20 times(which i'm sure they will) yorubas will never be allowed to profit from their treachery. Eyes don open.

SE+SS+North---> SW loss.

ayokellany:

Which of what you asked did you not have before you killed Tafawa Balewa and Ahmadu Bello, then returned the country to unitary govt from con-federalism not even federalism.

How many times do you need to be told how stupid your line of argument is before you absolve it or who do you think should be held accountable for the destruction your tribe unleashed on Nigeria ?

Mister, you need to stop being mischievous with your line of reasoning.

Aguiyi Ironsi used a quasi-unitary system of government to save the country from the looming anarchy after the January 15, 1966 coup. It was meant to be temporal and Aguiyi Ironsi or his people never gained any undue advantage over other ethnic.

AGUIYI IRONSI DID NOT DISSOLVE THE REGIONAL GOVERNMENTS OR RESOURCE CONTROL; GOWON WITH THE COLLUSION OF AWOLOWO DID!

In 1972 Gowon and Awolowo proceeded to enact and enforce the Indigenization decree which led to the collapse of the Nigerian economy.
To add insult to the festering injury Olusegun Obasanjo promulgated the Land Use Decree (now Land Use Act) in 29th of March, 1978.

By the provision of the Land Use Decree of 1978, the inhabitants of the oil producing communities were turned into squatters in their own ancestral homes, as land where oil is explored, produced, transported and stored were decreed to belong to the state long after political independence in 1960. The existence and application of the Land Use Act of 1978 contributed to the present state of neglect, under-development and the insecurity of the region.

And for the past 45 years, what have subsequent governments done to repeal the evil laws and entrench true practice of federal system of government?

BTW, are you so uncomfortable to quote the entire truth in IGBOSON1's post?

IGBOSON1:


^^^Mate, what is your understanding of a country a nation? We purport to be a nation abi......'one Nigeria' abi? What do you think this entails as regards freedom of movement around the country?

In your first paragraph, there's a hole....a gap in the analysis regarding Ndigbos' travails in this country in the late 60s! After 'tens of thosands of Igbos were slaughtered up north' as you put it, what was the outcome? What was the outcome when Nigeria was unwilling or unable to guarantee and protect the lives and properties of Igbos and other Easterners? Anybody reading your post will think that 'ibos' were slaughtered in their tens of thousands.....they did nothing about it......and when the mindless targeting of innocent civilians finally abated, Ndigbo returned back to the north just like that!

If you weren't so daft you'd understand that the fact Ndigbo are found in the north and other parts of Nigeria is due to the 'one Nigeria' you fools blindly fought for and brought them back into....despite the fact they made it perfectly clear they don't want to be co-compatriots with your hateful bigoted self! If Ndigbo steered clear of the north now, you'd be the first to scream that Ndigbo don't want to leave the past behind, forgive and all that!

Despite the wickedness this country has meted out on Ndigbo as a people and despite our agitations for equity and justice, of the three major ethnic groups in Nigeria, who do you think is living Nigeria the way it should be more than the other two? If you were to ask the minority christian groups presently being decimated in the middle-belt who, between the Igbo and Fulani, who they'd prefer to have as neighbours and compatriots, who do you think they'd pick?

The fact one part is agitating for self-determination while the other two are either sitting on the fence or threatening war, what does that tell you regarding who needs the other the most?

The claim Igboland is unproductive and economically depressed!....You must be having a laugh! Just what is your understanding of the limits of Igboland? Do you know Igbland extends into the oil and gas rich parts of Rivers State to which yours truly belongs? If not for the blatant cheating and greed which saw economic enablers like an international airport and seaport being sited in one region for decades and given undue preference while seaports and airports in the east were systematically undermined and downgraded....if not for this what do you think would be the fate of your region today?

Give Igboland resource control and self-determination today and watch us soar! Resource control and true fiscal-federalism gives hateful leeching scum like you nightmares and this is one of the reasons you support that Buhari....admit it!

Politically, Ndigbo are scattered. Let PDP or APC zone the president to South, SW will rally around one candidate, so will SS. But Ndigbo will field 100 candidates thereby making it impossible for them to clinch the exulted power. Ndigbo are there own undoing politically. You will see Judas of Imo State Alhaji Okorocha running. Then you see Judas of Anambra State Muhammad Ngige running. So also other Judas Iscariots all over Igboland will run to pave way for other regions to win. The genuine Igbo contender will be helpless in the hands of these charlatans. That's why those people who are supposed to be Igbo slaves are now lording over Ndigbo.

As for Tinubu, very soon Dullard will come after him to clip his wings. Politically he is finished for aligning with the lazy northern politicians who can do nothing else but to feed fat on other regions' resources.

It is time Ndigbo came together as one mouthpiece.

Fess:
Politically, Ndigbo are scattered. Let PDP or APC zone the president to South, SW will rally around one candidate, so will SS. But Ndigbo will field 100 candidates thereby making it impossible for them to clinch the exulted power. Ndigbo are there own undoing politically. You will see Judas of Imo State Alhaji Okorocha running. Then you see Judas of Anambra State Muhammad Ngige running. So also other Judas Iscariots all over Igboland will run to pave way for other regions to win. The genuine Igbo contender will be helpless in the hands of these charlatans. That's why those people who are supposed to be Igbo slaves are now lording over Ndigbo.

As for Tinubu, very soon Dullard will come after him to clip his wings. Politically he is finished for aligning with the lazy northern politicians who can do nothing else but to feed fat on other regions' resources.

It is time Ndigbo came together as one mouthpiece.

Mister, can you substantiate with facts and figures the dispensation where Igbos fielded up to 100 candidates for presidency that made it impossible for them to clinch power?

If you cannot prove your assertion, it then means you're a pathological liar and a wicked propagandist!

chukwudi44:
I think the title of this thread should be "wake up call for the southern region"!! Only a certified fool would think the PDP,APC or anyother serious political party would hand over its presidential ticket to the igbos or any other southern region in 2019 or 2023!! Face it bro any party that fields a southerner against a northern candidate in this current political dispensation would lose woefully!! Even if Buhari wins and rules till 2023,The APC would lose should it field Osinbanjo or anyother SWner against a Northern PDP candidate in 2023!! This is simply common sensemThe north are ver much united and do not care about any party as long as they are the presidential candiadate while we in the south keep fooling ourselves!!

Tinubu succeeded in ruining southern unity achieved for the first time in our nations history in 2011,This betrayal would haunt the south for years to come as the souhern regions would find it difficult to stand unified for any southern presidential candidate.

If the APC fields a SWner,the PDP would field a northerner with a VP from the SS/SE likewise if the PDP should field a SS/SE ,the APC would field a northerner with a SW VP.

Better brace up dear,the north would rule us for a very long time to come whether in APC or PDP.The so-called sophisticated yorubas jubilating and thinking they are politically savvy would soon understand what i mean if the APC are stupid enough to field Osinbanjo or anyother SWner against a northern PDP candiadate.The recent experience of Femi Gbajabiamilla in the speakership of the HOR contest should be a prelude of what is to come in future.

So unless the south overcomes her differences and unites,we would continue to play second fiddle to these northerners.

I'm now 100% certain that you donknow how we play our politics

xtrorse:


Mister, can you substantiate with facts and figures the dispensation where Igbos fielded up to 100 candidates for presidency that made it impossible for them to clinch power?

If you cannot prove your assertion, it then means you're a pathological liar and a wicked propagandist!

In 1999, PDP zoned the presidency to Southern Nigeria, OBJ fresh from the clink was nominated by the SW. In the SE how many candidates emerged? There were Alex Ekweme, Jim Nwobodo, Arthur Nzeribe, Ike Nwachukwu, Ebitu Ukiwe etc etc. The list cannot be exhausted.

What happened? Mudslinging and name calling among Ndigbo became political strategy. Jim Nwobodo was even alleged to have collected money to make sure Ekweme didn't get enough votes to beat OBJ.

It happened as strategised by the SW and the North who knew that stomach infrastructure was and still is the bane of Igbo politics.

I hear recently that Ohaneze Ndigbo counseled their sons and daughters not to take up ministerial appointments with President Dullard, but check the ministerial list sent to the NASS and you'd be surprised to see how many Judas Iscariots and Esaus on parade.

Fess:


In 1999, PDP zoned the presidency to Southern Nigeria, OBJ fresh from the clink was nominated by the SW. In the SE how many candidates emerged? There were Alex Ekweme, Jim Nwobodo, Arthur Nzeribe, Ike Nwachukwu, Ebitu Ukiwe etc etc. The list cannot be exhausted.

What happened? Mudslinging and name calling among Ndigbo became political strategy. Jim Nwobodo was even alleged to have collected money to make sure Ekweme didn't get enough votes to beat OBJ.

It happened as strategised by the SW and the North who knew that stomach infrastructure was and still is the bane of Igbo politics.

I hear recently that Ohaneze Ndigbo counseled their sons and daughters not to take up ministerial appointments with President Dullard, but check the ministerial list sent to the NASS and you'd be surprised to see how many Judas Iscariots and Esaus on parade.

You still have not proved your assertion. If you're truthful you would have deemed it wise to present the result statistics for the PDP primaries and the names of those presidential aspirants who contested.

The other issue you digressed to is immaterial to the matter under discourse.

ArodewilliamsT:


Will a northerner vote a yorubaman, if another northerner is contesting?

chukwudi44:

Abeg help me ask am The entire south has been confined to playing second fiddle until further notice.

Have you forgotten what happened in 1993?

The North voted for MKO Abiola against Bashir Tofa, a northerner who contested on the platform of NRC.