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Re: Woman! Know Thyself! You Are More Than A Ring And A Title. by Nobody: 2:26pm On Oct 02, 2015
Ihuomadinihu:
So much insecurity on the part of men. This post is for women and how they can find a sense of purpose while waiting for marriage. It's only insecure half ass men that will condemn this post cos they don't even know what they want in a mate.
There are two clear issues here: 1. Men see themselves as a mini god. 2. African men are threatned when they see or hear the word 'Feminism'. There are different types of feminism. No one is struggling with anyone but women should be allowed to live up to their potentials with or without marriage. This idea of shaming single women only happen in less developed societies.
We ask for gender equality not feminism. What is wrong with that?

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Re: Woman! Know Thyself! You Are More Than A Ring And A Title. by ceecee0703(m): 2:27pm On Oct 02, 2015
My sister what is actually the challenge with what the parents said or how an African mother raises her Daughters? i see nothing wrong cos the male children also get statements like.
"is this how u will handle ur home"

"is this how u will take care of ur wife"

in Africa parents groom their children to be better parents than they are.

The challenge with africa is that we are africans and we always want to copy everything we see no matter its low workability in our terrain. A report shows we have greater lasting marriages in Africa and Asia more than America n Europe...it also explains that we have more happy homes in Africa and America. the reason is simply because of the teachings frm parents.

Every woman whether we like to or yes needs to learn home management its on this that her ability to chase and follow her dreams can wrk. Except if she doesnt want to get married. In Africa a man is better respected if he is married so is a woman...it means he or she can handle responsibility. This is also a criteria for being elected into power in the U.S. so lets carve out our own way of making women matter in the society while maintaining a strong family ties else...if we jus swallow women empowerment the way the west present it to us we will have countless nos of divorces, countless nos to trumatised children,countless nos of school shootings,countless nos of baby mamas countless nos of abortions the cons are numerous.

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Re: Woman! Know Thyself! You Are More Than A Ring And A Title. by Oluboonmi(f): 2:28pm On Oct 02, 2015
[quote author=Tallesty1 post=38593662]A Lady after reading this:



Lady: Oh, I love this. Thanks MizMyColi, I just wish our ladies will learn.

Then she receives a message from boo.

Boo: Are you free? Let's hang out.

Lady: Oh! I love this. Thanks boo.


So she goes out with boo, straffs him all night and everything she read wipes out automatically.


And everything still remains thesame.




BTW, the op failed to realize that marriage increases a man's or a woman's worth too. I don't care who you are or what you have achieved, if you are single then you are incomplete.

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I so disagree with your "if you are single then you are incomplete" bro, you still live in the 19th century. Marriage does not complete you. You can be single and complete. Jesus was never married, did that cut short his destiny? NO. The Scripture says 'You are complete in Him'
Now, just so you know, I am not against marriage. It's a beautiful institution created be God for mankind. I desire to be married someday and have a lovely marriage.
People who say you are incomplete without marriage are those that weaken the 'defense' of most ladies. They feel no matter what they do or achieve or how far they've come in their career, or what have you, they are not complete until theres a husband, hence, husbandhunt starts. Many fall into wrong marriages just so they can feel that 'completeness'. To every lady out there, YOU ARE COMPLETE EVEN AS A SINGLE. WHEN YOU ARE MARRIED, YOU JOIN YOUR COMPLETENESS TO A COMPLETE GUY AND YOU'LL MAKE A BEAUTIFUL MARRIAGE.

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Re: Woman! Know Thyself! You Are More Than A Ring And A Title. by Yksoul(m): 2:29pm On Oct 02, 2015
U DONT NEED TO TELL US B4, WE KNOW U ARE A FEMINIST.ARE U OF THE OPINION THAT MARRIAGE IS IMPORTANT BUT NOT COMPULSORY? WHAT IMPRESSION AS LEGACY, ARE U GOING TO LEAVE BEHIND FOR UR MALE CHILD IF U HAVE ANY?THAT MARRIAGE'S NOT COMPULSORY?

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Re: Woman! Know Thyself! You Are More Than A Ring And A Title. by Nobody: 2:29pm On Oct 02, 2015
Tallesty1:
A Lady after reading this:



Lady: Oh, I love this. Thanks MizMyColi, I just wish our ladies will learn.

Then she receives a message from boo.

Boo: Are you free? Let's hang out.

Lady: Oh! I love this. Thanks boo.


So she goes out with boo, straffs him all night and everything she read wipes out automatically.


And everything still remains thesame.




BTW, the op failed to realize that marriage increases a man's or a woman's worth too. I don't care who you are or what you have achieved, if you are single then you are incomplete.


And What's with people and their recent attack on marriage btw? Is marriage the only institution that is failing?

Nothing on earth is better than a blessed marriage, it's an achievement on its own, the reason most fail is is our sin.

It is sin that will make a man to hit his woman. It is sin that will make a man see a woman as a lesser being, it's sin that will make a man to cheat on, beat or mistreat his woman in any way. Same thing goes for the woman.


Listen, if we all should repent and follow God's guidelines for marriage then believe you me that marriage will become the best thing on earth.
If your claim that "if you are single then you are incomplete" is anything to go by, isn't it safe then to say Jesus, Paul, John the baptist were very much incomplete since they never knew the innards of a woman despite being the purported silver-tails of the spirit? Doesn't that make flimflam of christianity in that their 'lord and personal savior' was, in fact, an incomplete bloke who never got married?

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Re: Woman! Know Thyself! You Are More Than A Ring And A Title. by bukatyne(f): 2:29pm On Oct 02, 2015
4C2215131:


And who in God's earth told you Omotola is happy? Gotta ask, as you seem to speak or should I say write with such belief. You never know man...you never know (beware the plastic smiles and cheap media projections as the issue of happiness anchored on the emotions of the other sex is a very contentious one).

Who can really fathom the depths of the human psyche, the human mind...

You have inside scoop? grin
Re: Woman! Know Thyself! You Are More Than A Ring And A Title. by Nobody: 2:30pm On Oct 02, 2015
A married lady went for an interview and was very late, when asked why she was late, her reply was I'M MARRIED! The man harshly told her to get out of His office. Is that an excuse?

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Re: Woman! Know Thyself! You Are More Than A Ring And A Title. by Nobody: 2:30pm On Oct 02, 2015
bukatyne:


Infact, your post shows that a woman can be married and still know herself/fulfill her dreams.

You are actually aligning with the OP.

And those women had those dreams because they were not trained for only marriage.

Besides, Hilary stayed because of her political ambitions wink
yea...a lot of Nigerian women marry because of hardship. They want an escape. So if u don't need any emotional and financial savor... stay out. and stay out of sex if u wanna b religious.

nobody stops u from achieving ur dreams...na una full law sch and medicine dept.

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Re: Woman! Know Thyself! You Are More Than A Ring And A Title. by safarigirl(f): 2:30pm On Oct 02, 2015
kosplateau:

no be say u dey go work be d issue...u no dey bring in anything. na d man dey foot all for hux. so u kukuma stay home and cuddle.
when my mother was alive, she was responsible for the clothing of the kids and the school fees of 2 kids. The fees were 500k per year for I and my sister and my father only paid 40k for my little brother. If your mum didn't contribute, don't assume everyone else grew up in the same conditions.

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Re: Woman! Know Thyself! You Are More Than A Ring And A Title. by Tamee(f): 2:31pm On Oct 02, 2015
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Re: Woman! Know Thyself! You Are More Than A Ring And A Title. by bukatyne(f): 2:31pm On Oct 02, 2015
ronald4lif:


Not so much is wrong with feminism in the real sense of that word. Having an equal footing with a woman is not a problem and myself and some other guys don't have a problem with gender equality. However, Nigerian feminists are fake and insincere with their feminism crusade.

They don't take equal financial responsibility in relationship/marriage and subliminally still harbour the breadwinner ethos of men. A man is still expected to seamlessly impress them with gifts and treats while they don't or sluggishly return the gesture. You can't champion equality and same time depends on a man for livelihood.

Lols

You need to look deeper wink
Re: Woman! Know Thyself! You Are More Than A Ring And A Title. by nonjebose(m): 2:32pm On Oct 02, 2015
MizMyColi:


I'm sorry you misunderstood the writer then.
Did you read this part?
That particular part of the narrative exposes the writer's naivety. Mothers understood the challenges of marriage in africa, whereby a wife is expected to fulfill domestic duties not only to the 'loving and understanding' husband, but also to his family. That phrase does not in anyway mean that the girl lives only to please the husband.

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Re: Woman! Know Thyself! You Are More Than A Ring And A Title. by iamkingzlee(m): 2:33pm On Oct 02, 2015
safarigirl:
your English is barely comprehensible. You'll have to work on it, then maybe I can understand you enough to give you a proper reply
why evilz shocked

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Re: Woman! Know Thyself! You Are More Than A Ring And A Title. by bukatyne(f): 2:35pm On Oct 02, 2015
proxillin:


Read the ops message. The message is about how women should not take marriage serious. They should not train themselves for marriage.
Any woman taking advise from post of this type will end up being Rihanna, Myley Cyrus of this world. They are human with no respect.

Can you point where the OP pointed the bolded out?

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Re: Woman! Know Thyself! You Are More Than A Ring And A Title. by Nobody: 2:36pm On Oct 02, 2015
ceecee0703:
My sister what is actually the challenge with what the parents said or how an African mother raises her Daughters? i see nothing wrong cos the male children also get statements like.
"is this how u will handle ur home"

"is this how u will take care of ur wife"

in Africa parents groom their children to be better parents than they are.

The challenge with africa is that we are africans and we always want to copy everything we see no matter its low workability in our terrain. A report shows we have greater lasting marriages in Africa and Asia more than America n Europe...it also explains that we have more happy homes in Africa and America. the reason is simply because of the teachings frm parents.

Every woman whether we like to or yes needs to learn home management its on this that her ability to chase and follow her dreams can wrk. Except if she doesnt want to get married. In Africa a man is better respected if he is married so is a woman...it means he or she can handle responsibility. This is also a criteria for being elected into power in the U.S. so lets carve out our own way of making women matter in the society while maintaining a strong family ties else...if we jus swallow women empowerment the way the west present it to us we will have countless nos of divorces, countless nos to trumatised children,countless nos of school shootings,countless nos of baby mamas countless nos of abortions the cons are numerous.

bro, it is a criterion ..but actually it seems like one of the unwritten criteria. There was a bachelor US President.

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Re: Woman! Know Thyself! You Are More Than A Ring And A Title. by bukatyne(f): 2:36pm On Oct 02, 2015
kosplateau:

yea...a lot of Nigerian women marry because of hardship. They want an escape. So if u don't need any emotional and financial savor... stay out. and stay out of sex if u wanna b religious.

nobody stops u from achieving ur dreams...na una full law sch and medicine dept.

undecided

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Re: Woman! Know Thyself! You Are More Than A Ring And A Title. by 1trillionlikes: 2:36pm On Oct 02, 2015
ednut1:
Nice article. But some things are jst meant to be d way nature nd God put it. In the West where women are empowered what do u have, women refusing to marry, women as baby mamas from diff men, women using anonymous sperm donors, high divorce rate. Life itself is not fair btw.
you have to ask the OP if she believes in God and His words first..... I pity this generation and the ones to come
Re: Woman! Know Thyself! You Are More Than A Ring And A Title. by Nobody: 2:37pm On Oct 02, 2015
bukatyne:


Can you point where the OP pointed the bolded out?
the bold or emboldened. grin
Re: Woman! Know Thyself! You Are More Than A Ring And A Title. by 1trillionlikes: 2:38pm On Oct 02, 2015
bukatyne:

Can you point where the OP pointed the bolded out?
that is exactly the summary of the thread
Re: Woman! Know Thyself! You Are More Than A Ring And A Title. by 4C2215131: 2:38pm On Oct 02, 2015
safarigirl:
not enough. We still see the same stories of girls supposedly gold-digging. Nigerian women are continually mocked here, so we'll keep preaching until we actively change this mentality that women are liabilities

@seeing women as liabilities, women are the ones perpetuating this outlook! Y'all think in trying to get revenge on men for their lying, morally bankrupt ways is to dig into their pockets! That is the biggest mistake y'all made as the man is just going to make more money but see you as a liability (and if you're the type that is financially well-off, he sees you as a competitor, thus a problem! that is how he's wired to think and feel).

As is common with human nature, the man is not going to see her materialistic nature as a silent plea for "please change your attitude"...he refuses to think he's done anything wrong and just attributes her materialistic tendencies to just plain gold digging.

Hence I said, two wrongs cannot make a right. Woman, understand this, just live your life in the most conscientious way, do your best to be a good person, (a loving wife if you're married) or a darling friend/lover to the chosen one and forget all these men and women argument. Like I said, it'll never be concluded this side of paradise. I've given up on it a long time ago, and I am the better for it. You'd do well to adhere suit.

Men started the problem, but women, in a bid to correct it, are utilising a tactic that won't work. Just the plain bare-assed truth here.

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Re: Woman! Know Thyself! You Are More Than A Ring And A Title. by bukatyne(f): 2:38pm On Oct 02, 2015
MizMyColi:
This writeup is written by a Nigerian, especially for Nigerian Ladies.
Please understand that while I and the writer share this view, you are under no obligation to share.
If it does not resonate with you...please feel free to toss it out and shout like Orubebe did "WE WILL NOT TAKE THIS; THIS IS UNACCEPTABLE"
If it does resonate with you, please welcome like a breath of fresh air.




https://wordsmithf./2015/09/30/woman-you-are-more-than-a-ring-and-a-title/


Nice one

And for the life of me, I don not understand how women should have ambition = the OP is against marriage or feminist.

The OP has clearly stated she is NOT a feminist.

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Re: Woman! Know Thyself! You Are More Than A Ring And A Title. by monex(m): 2:39pm On Oct 02, 2015
nothing actually stops a woman from not seeing marriage as her all-in-all. there is nothing to fight for. it is no crime nor offense.

but here's the caveat, humans are social animals. we are communal by nature. the lady who has an independent mind would still crave respect from society and would then find that society does not give her the respect she craves due to her being single. this then affects her psyche and she might jettison that independent mind she had. i know ladies who sang the not going to be married tune till they turned 33 only to now start getting desperate.

it is not just a "women" thing. there are lots of men who would prefer not to be married but society terms an 40-year old unmarried man to be irresponsible or having a problem of some sorts.

these are problems of stereotype.

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Re: Woman! Know Thyself! You Are More Than A Ring And A Title. by ronald4lif(m): 2:39pm On Oct 02, 2015
bukatyne:


Lols

You need to look deeper wink

Perhaps I made a blanket statement. But a lot of your clique I've encountered don't assume much of a financial responsibility when in an affair. The aspect of even financial responsibility is where I'm much indifferent with Nigerian feminism.

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Re: Woman! Know Thyself! You Are More Than A Ring And A Title. by Nobody: 2:40pm On Oct 02, 2015
bukatyne:


I think you are mixing things up

Nobody has said marriage is bad.... at least not the OP; however, marriage is not the end, it is a means to an end.

Men desire to marry too but how many men are solely trained for marriage?

A woman is much more than a wife.

And the fact a woman knows herself does not mean she would not have relationships or a marriage.

@all, personalizing issues and a deliberate
refusal to look at the other person's life, is
the begining of the feeling that the world's
entire weight is on your shoulder, hence
the butt-hurt feeling which pushes us into
unreasonable, bias and non objective
activism.
@op, everyone in Africa (i don't know how
it is in other parts on the world) is brought
up with marriage as the ultimate aim.
I have heard guys being told "with this lazy
behaviour of yours, how are you going to
fend for your family?"
i know guys who have been told "with your
keepin to yourself, how are going to be able
to relate with your wife?" "this talk wey you
dey always talk to yourself, your wife go run
commot from house leave you one day"
"with the school wey you no want take
seriously like so, for ladies, theirs is even
better, but for you, who is going to marry
you". With that, a boy is told that the reason
he must go to school is to make sure he is
elligible for marriage. And that is true! His
chances of making it in life is greatly
reduced if he is uneducated. And not even
the feminists, who claim it is ok for the
woman to be bread winner, will be
attracted to him at that point.
Stop feeling its only you that gets corrected
in hope you don't carry undesirable
behaviours into marriage. Men are being
told the same thing too. If you've not
noticed that, then its because you've been
so fixated on your ideology. No wonder you
feel the weight of the world is on your
shoulders and you think the man is a
legitimate object to hate.

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Re: Woman! Know Thyself! You Are More Than A Ring And A Title. by Nobody: 2:41pm On Oct 02, 2015
safarigirl:
when my mother was alive, she was responsible for the clothing of the kids and the school fees of 2 kids. The fees were 500k per year for I and my sister and my father only paid 40k for my little brother. If your mum didn't contribute, don't assume everyone else grew up in the same conditions.
gud for ur mom...some moms didn't have d opportunity in monetary values. why are u bitter? are u pitying ur mom? just stay away from marriage...nothing gud comes from it and u can only change how u view things.

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Re: Woman! Know Thyself! You Are More Than A Ring And A Title. by vivaciousvivi(f): 2:41pm On Oct 02, 2015
MizMyColi, I know that a lot of people will refuse to read the sublime message from that write-up and may call it feminist and free-thinking or new-age (none of which I see anything wrong with btw).
To you I would say this, God bless u sister!

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Re: Woman! Know Thyself! You Are More Than A Ring And A Title. by bukatyne(f): 2:42pm On Oct 02, 2015
1trillionlikes:

that is exactly the summary of the thread

SO 1trillionlikes 'You are more than husband, develop yourself more at work' translates to 1trillionlikes, don't marry? undecided

Don't we have married successful women e.g. Omotola, Dora, Ngozi Okonjo, Hilary Clinton, Liberia's President, Margret Thatcher etc. etc.

Where did the OP go against marriage or tell women NOT to marry?

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Re: Woman! Know Thyself! You Are More Than A Ring And A Title. by 4C2215131: 2:42pm On Oct 02, 2015
bukatyne:


You have inside scoop? grin

Not really...just that coming across as 'socially correct' (an indispensable index in her line of business) is a pretty huge motivator to acting out a script of everything being honky-dory at home and the like.
Re: Woman! Know Thyself! You Are More Than A Ring And A Title. by ronald4lif(m): 2:45pm On Oct 02, 2015
Tamee:


I like you smiley

Ps: Do you think only frustrated women of marriageable age who are single console themselves that they don't need men?

That statement is falacious, blackmailing and should be outrightly dismiss. Not every woman need a man to make progression and be complete in their respective career and obtain inner happiness. Some are single by choice and happy. Likewise men too. No one should be cajoled to embark on a relationship/marriage coz of what people think of them or societal pressure. They should coz they want to.

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Re: Woman! Know Thyself! You Are More Than A Ring And A Title. by porozhniy(m): 2:46pm On Oct 02, 2015
when will the nigerian woman stop blaming the society for her poor choices in life? when will she take full responsibility for the direction her life is headed? nobody is holding you down but urself. society exerts the same pressure on everyone regardless of gender.

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Re: Woman! Know Thyself! You Are More Than A Ring And A Title. by Ignyte(m): 2:47pm On Oct 02, 2015
xmich:
Have you signed the petition if no I hope its time for you to do so

http://petitions.moveon.org/sign/a-call-to-boycott-buhari.fb49?source=s.icn.fb&r_by=14294119

Have you watched empire?? Have you seen Lucious Lyon?? Buhari is like Luciois Lyon infact let me use a popular character, Buhari is like Niklaus Michaelson. Imagine, plotting against Klaus openly. The move is as foolish as a sheep, dancing shakitibobo in the presence of a hungry lion. The same way that they used to corner Saraki. na the same way them go corner Biafra. Common sense you people cannot use. Na to dey disturb pple make dem follow una for suicide mission.. I'm down wid d biafra campaign but make una choose better strategies... the man from daura had 12 years to plan all his activities for the next four years
Re: Woman! Know Thyself! You Are More Than A Ring And A Title. by nonjebose(m): 2:47pm On Oct 02, 2015
CharlesPhc:
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Exactly, Even as boys growing up we had our own training as well. Mom would always say " Don't cry, be a man that you are" or Why would you allow your sister carry that can? don't you know as a man you should do the heavy job?

So @Op your post should rather be in the direction of educating and even reminding the ladies of today on the morals/virtues they all should imbide to bring out the best in them.


Exactly! I was trained to do all those boys' stuff. Yet, my mum did not allow me be, went on to teach me how to cook, do the dishes, tidy the house and every other stuff they are having issues with. She always said that this will not make me be at the mercy of ant woman. Guess she is right with all the issues now

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