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MY Terrible Experience With CHUCKY234 by oseri(m): 11:46am On Oct 05, 2015 |
The car, a MB C240 2002 model was advertised here: https://www.nairaland.com/2537910/sold-regd-2002-c240-grab We negotiated and reached an agreement of 730k, papers and driving it down to portharcourt inclusive. I have never met the said chuck234 before but based on trust i transfered 630k to him to have the car delivered to ph and balance payment after inspection. The said chucks only identified three minor faults with the vehicle which are: 1. low engine oil 2. low coolant 3. damaged engine sand protector Prior to cash transfer, chucks promised to fix these three items prior to delivery. After a week chucks claimed he is sick and can only send whatsapp message but can't receive a call...... It sounded weird to me. I had to pressured him to give the car to the driver, his own appointed driver to bring the car to PH. It took the dirver another three days before the said driver(name with-held) told me he's bringing the car to PH. At about 3hrs, the said driver told me the ATF was leaking and that he has to park to fix it. He sent me pictures of where they are fixing the car...... To cut the long story short, the driver was never on the road. he was never bringing the car. He lied to make excuss to siphon money from me. I told the driver to call chucks to sort it out but he said chucks can talk because he is sick. I never realised it was a tactics to take the remaining 100k from me prior to delivery. The said driver began to complain that the car has the following problem 1. hard starting 2. both front window glass not working 3. Air cotrol module and MAF sensor not working(so he called it) At this juncture, it downed on me that my cash is stuck. Chucks fone is off(saying the said chucks is at the point of death..). But i need my car. I had to release money to have the car fixed. I ended up spending 66k. The driver comfirms the car is ok. so he drove the car to PH. i took delivery of the car around 8pm. Instantly, i noticed the brake was bad, and the power steering was bad too. On further inspection the next day, this are the problems with the car. 1. Power steering pump bad 2. Brake tubes from abs module, one caliper, brake fluid reservoir removed and pluged. Brake system destroyed 3. driver side mirror cannibalised. it doesn't work from the control. it was put in place with a super glue 4. The moon roof control work erratically 5. gearbox shifting very badly 6. rear axle vibrating. i'm suspecting bushings 7. no horn 8. driver airbag already deployed. replaced with a caton airbag case 9. diver's door interior handle broken. put in place with a super glue 10. the entire shocks bad the list is endless. As soon as the driver delievered the car, chucks came alive. A sent whatsapp messages to comfirm the delivery. i told all the problems the car has which he denied. I told him to refund my money which he refused. I later told him to give me 50k to assist me in the repair which refused as well. I have no choice than to live with my loss but more importantly to inform the house of the new method of scammers This is a lesson for all 12 Likes 8 Shares |
Re: MY Terrible Experience With CHUCKY234 by DlawTECHY(m): 11:47am On Oct 05, 2015 |
Eya... Sorry |
Re: MY Terrible Experience With CHUCKY234 by chucky234(m): 11:55am On Oct 05, 2015 |
UPDATE: Since this whole saga started few days ago I have not inform the driver who took the car to PH, I decided to call him this evening to let him know about what is going on and the steps I'm going to take, I copied all the faults Oseri listed here and forwarded to him. The man was shocked, he said it wouldn't have been possible for him to arrive PH before 3pm if the car were as bad as Oseri stated. Few minutes ago he just called me back that he called Oseri but he refused to pick his call. The driver is the last person to handle the car and should be in better position to tell the us if I indeed sold a lemon to Oseri as painted. . I have suggested for people in PH to go where the car is to have a first hand view of what the car look like, but instead everyone seem to be contented screaming SCAM on nl. Oseri should not post pics of selected patches of the car, let him take full pics of the car both exterior and interior and post them here for all to see. ........................................................................... People can be funny sha I didn't want to say anything about this issue but I'll clear few things here, firstly you are not the first person I have delivered car to and the said 630k is the least amount I have received upfront yet I have delivered according to agreement over the years. I have made few mistakes as a human but I have never scam anyone in 9yrs (7yrs on nl) of working as a car dealer. . The said car is my personal car and the last nairalander (tobolos) who saw that car when he came to deliver foetus and drugs for my dog can attest to the far that my car was sound and well cared for. I'm an automobile person who is well knowledgeable about car maintenance and people like Kingreign, abatically, gazzuz , nurey , fulaman98 can attest to that fact. . I put up that car for sale and what I wanted was 750k last, people have called to price that for 700k but I refused to sell. When we negotiated I told you 750k last, then additional 30k for delivery, 30k for fresh registration ( since you insisted I re-register on ur name) which totalled 810k. You said you don't have enough cash that you need to borrow from friends, since I didn't want you to borrow just to buy a car I reduced the price to 670k to accommodate the 60k for fresh registration and delivery. You sent in 630k into my account to balance 100k when the car gets to you,from the 630k I paid 30k for the fresh registration and 20k was given to the driver to be on standby. Due to the poor state of my health I asked my friend to take the car to his mechanic around agric, he got there and his mech wasn't around instead of calling to tell me he took the car to another mech around volks bus stop for fixing. He called me later and sent pics of what they were fixing on the car to me which I forwarded to you, due to wrong connection by the electrician my radiator fan was burnt the following day and I got another fan from Trinity and the car was ok aside the brake which they fixed but was still not ok. . That car left Lagos by 8am and got to PH by 3pm, I don't think a junk car will do that. The car was delivered but you refused to pay my 100k, complaining about different faults and threatening me with your father being an herbalist with mountains of juju in his compound. Well for peace to reign I asked you to forget about the 100k, that means I sold a Benz C240 I was going to sell 750k to you for 570k, but you insisted that I send you another 50k. Check around and see how much junk reg. Camry Tinylight and Honda Babbyboy is going for in the market, at that point I said I won't send you any other money because I won't my Benz 520k. I told you that my lawyer will come with your 570k to bring my car back to Lagos and I still stand on that. . Anyone in PH can meet with you to see the said car and tell me if the car worth lower or more than what I sold the car for. . This is my car: www.nairaland.com/2537910/sold-regd-2002-c240-grab . And here is same car going for 1.3m: www.nairaland.com/2581490/very-sharp-n-clean-registerd#38337190 . From 750k I reduced the price to 670k for him and ended up forfeiting 100k that means he paid 570k for the said car. That's a car I used daily, none of such faults were there aside the horn which affected the airbag on the driver side and also the break and I explained both to him. My engine brings out vapour from the exhaust, AC work fine, neat interior and exterior. You prolly expect a Naija used car to be in same condition as toks, why not cough out 1.7m to buy the toks. Like I said I didn't force the car on you and I clearly gave you the option of me picking the car and return your 570k. . For those shouting scam scam scam, I don't seem to understand where the scam is coming from. I'm not faceless here, I have an identity on naiarland and have met close to 500 nairaland members in the course of doing business here. He paid for a car and I delivered, I didn't do away with his money. . Like I said earlier I have made very few mistakes (except there is anyone here without mistakes) in my 9yrs of working as a car dealer, just one in Uyo and another in PH and that's all about it. I wait for anyone to come out here and say that I scam him/her. . Edited: People based their judgement on Op's exaggerated information without knowing what the car look like, they scream SCAM without knowing the actual definition of the word "scam". I have fought scam over the years on the auto and pet sections, when OLX guys invaded this section I personally contacted Fhemmmy and Kakakibuy to see how we can curb the activities of the said fraudsters on the auto section which Fhemmmy promised talking to Seun to see what we can work out together. . Oseri bragged about soiling my name on nl and making sure I go hungry, hmmm I'm on nl not to sell cars but because of my love for the site. I have been a very active member of this forum and have contributed my quota to better some of the sections where I'm most active. Funny enough 90% of sales comes from referrals, out of the remaining 10% only 3% come from nairaland, people who converse with me offline will tell you that I have so many cars I don't bother posting online because the demand for such cars are always there waiting for supply. You can check the frequency of me posting cars on nl, I can go months without posting a car, even my Cotonou thread I hardly update it. I toiled to lay my foundation and you trying to slander my name won't stop me from growing. I have sold cars to people I have never met and they keep introducing more people to me, God will continue to give me the strength to serve them. . People said I'm proud, well those nairalanders who have done biz with me or just called to enquire about cars will disagree. . For my colleagues who have taken their time to call me in the face of this I say a big thank you for your support, this thread won't be the end of Chucky Autos, never far from it. Chucky Autos has build a reputation and identity for itself, those who have patronised us will keep singing our praises. . Oseri I saw you as a friend and a brother, we built that friendship for few months and I sourced other cars for you till I decided to put up my car for sale, I negotiated with you as a brother and not as a customer. We reached an agreement and you made payment, something happen that same week and I explained to you like a brother would but instead you came out here to tell everyone that I was lying about my health. Everyone who follows me on nairaland and whatsapp knows I wasn't active for almost the entire month of September, I almost lost my life but God restored me and I bubbled back to life. People like Samad, kingrein, Prodeegee, Knyte and the rest asked where I have been and I told them I was sick. Do you think I'll go about telling people that I was sick simply because I sold a car to you? Or you think I'll switch off my phone and loose other potential customers that would have given me millions because I sold a car to you? Well too bad we started this friendship on a good note but going to end it like enemies. . You said this thread encouraged you to patronise me: this http:// www.nairaland.com/2461185/good-doing- business-chucky234#36019949 The Op bought this BWM :www.nairaland.com/2301894/sold-clean-regd-2003-bmw From me, he paid into my account and I delivered, he called me to thank me and was happy with the car. Despite the fact that he was happy with the car knowing fully well he bought a naija used car he still spent 50k to put the car to his standard and that didn't affect our relationship, he has since introduced his wife's boss to me for another BMW and we have also gone on to build a lasting friendship. The sale of the land I posted for sale in Abuja is being handled by his law firm in Abuja. . For everyone who thinks Chucky234 is a scam please those that I have scam or defraud over the years should come out and say so oooo , its funny how people take pride in calling one names without evidences to back their claim. . For everyone who have taken their time to comment (positive or negative) I say a big thank you for your audience. 42 Likes 1 Share |
Re: MY Terrible Experience With CHUCKY234 by Jackeeh(m): 11:56am On Oct 05, 2015 |
OP I smh for u. You haven't physically inspected what you're buying,yet you make payments. Even above 50%. Who does that? 25 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: MY Terrible Experience With CHUCKY234 by emmanuel596(m): 12:01pm On Oct 05, 2015 |
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Re: MY Terrible Experience With CHUCKY234 by phaamsaam: 12:02pm On Oct 05, 2015 |
U sound so gullible...always inspect urself or with a professional before buying anything firsthand.wldnt have costed u more than 10k 7 Likes |
Re: MY Terrible Experience With CHUCKY234 by Jackeeh(m): 12:05pm On Oct 05, 2015 |
emmanuel596:Now I'm confused! |
Re: MY Terrible Experience With CHUCKY234 by emmanuel596(m): 12:06pm On Oct 05, 2015 |
Re: MY Terrible Experience With CHUCKY234 by Jackeeh(m): 12:09pm On Oct 05, 2015 |
emmanuel596: Actually,according to the OP,the culprit is "chucky234". Not jackeeh! |
Re: MY Terrible Experience With CHUCKY234 by emmanuel596(m): 12:11pm On Oct 05, 2015 |
Jackeeh: Ohhhhh sorry |
Re: MY Terrible Experience With CHUCKY234 by emmanuel596(m): 12:12pm On Oct 05, 2015 |
chucky234:Are u guilty as charged and are u well now ![]() 4 Likes |
Re: MY Terrible Experience With CHUCKY234 by oseri(m): 12:12pm On Oct 05, 2015 |
i'm out for work. i will send the detailed pictures of what was sold to what was advertised. faults continued... 11. car needs a fresh battery for every start. I sent the said chucky234 14k to buy a new battery which he never did 12. gearbox moutings bad I will upload pix so you guys can see for yourselves |
Re: MY Terrible Experience With CHUCKY234 by Jackeeh(m): 12:12pm On Oct 05, 2015 |
emmanuel596: Its ok. I reasoned your comment could have been a mistake. |
Re: MY Terrible Experience With CHUCKY234 by Jackeeh(m): 12:15pm On Oct 05, 2015 |
emmanuel596: If all he can type is "people can be funny sha",then he may be guilty after all. Still I don't blame him. OP should have known better. |
Re: MY Terrible Experience With CHUCKY234 by Inception(m): 12:19pm On Oct 05, 2015 |
na wa o. pls NEVER BUY WHAT YOU HAVE NOT PHYSICALLY INSPECTED! 6 Likes 1 Share |
Re: MY Terrible Experience With CHUCKY234 by omotoda(m): 12:21pm On Oct 05, 2015 |
oseri: Why would you pay for a car you haven't inspected?Don't you have trusted friends or relative that could assist you with inspection and even take delivery of the car? 5 Likes 1 Share |
Re: MY Terrible Experience With CHUCKY234 by fanex: 12:21pm On Oct 05, 2015 |
We could have scanned it for you prior to payment. Scammers everywhere. 9 Likes
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Re: MY Terrible Experience With CHUCKY234 by emmanuel596(m): 12:23pm On Oct 05, 2015 |
Jackeeh:I won't only report him to the mods I will track him nd make sure he pays I blame op too 3 Likes |
Re: MY Terrible Experience With CHUCKY234 by betandwin8484: 12:28pm On Oct 05, 2015 |
oseri: Another scandal. what else can I say. take heart Op. well with these problems listed above it seems you bought accidental car.. 7 Likes |
Re: MY Terrible Experience With CHUCKY234 by Jackeeh(m): 12:34pm On Oct 05, 2015 |
emmanuel596: You still haven't given us your own side of the story. What do you have to say to the OP's accusations? |
Re: MY Terrible Experience With CHUCKY234 by emmanuel596(m): 12:36pm On Oct 05, 2015 |
Jackeeh: I don't have any problems with the said guy but instead of clearing the air on his accusation he just wrote people are funny sha is dat not quilt ![]() |
Re: MY Terrible Experience With CHUCKY234 by laudate: 12:37pm On Oct 05, 2015 |
chucky234: So has your lawyer refunded the money to the OP? What is the update? |
Re: MY Terrible Experience With CHUCKY234 by oseri(m): 12:37pm On Oct 05, 2015 |
here is a pre-order i made without itch. i've never seen calculusx. https://www.nairaland.com/2544036/clean-title-2001-lexus-rx i've bought a laptop from better technician here on nairaland and yet i haven't met him before. is it wrong to trust our own people? It's people like chucky234 that give this forum a bad name 18 Likes 1 Share |
Re: MY Terrible Experience With CHUCKY234 by laudate: 12:39pm On Oct 05, 2015 |
oseri: Guy, it is better to be safe than sorry. Do not pay for something that you have NOT physically inspected. Not every one has a good heart or a good name to protect! ![]() 12 Likes 1 Share |
Re: MY Terrible Experience With CHUCKY234 by oseri(m): 12:44pm On Oct 05, 2015 |
@chucky234, can you kindly tell the house that the mentioned 12 problems are present or not? This clown is a fraudster. Even your driver was honest enough to tell me everything. You that was dying, how did u know the car arrived PH 3pm? The arrival of the car woke u from your coma? I will mention his name here and his number as well so everyone can confirm with him that all the 12 problems exist and more 6 Likes |
Re: MY Terrible Experience With CHUCKY234 by oseri(m): 12:46pm On Oct 05, 2015 |
I will not argue with you until i have all the pictures to share with the house |
Re: MY Terrible Experience With CHUCKY234 by HumphreyBold(m): 12:50pm On Oct 05, 2015 |
but your funny sha , you paid 630k to a person youv never seen before , at this modern age, na wa 4 you, your not even happy you got a scrab car, what if you didnt get any.... LORD HAVE MERCY ON YOUR SOUL 8 Likes 1 Share |
Re: MY Terrible Experience With CHUCKY234 by oseri(m): 12:52pm On Oct 05, 2015 |
amen ![]() HumphreyBold: |
Re: MY Terrible Experience With CHUCKY234 by chucky234(m): 1:21pm On Oct 05, 2015 |
oseri:Military officers, lawyers and businessmen have paid money into my account for cars over the years and I never failed anyone. I have sold laptops and phones here and delivered to homes and offices of nairalanders without charging them for delivery. Yes you don't know me, the question is did I deliver the said car or run away with your money? . I have bought a clean title Corolla from a company in the US and ended up spending 150k to fix up the said car before selling, I'm not trying to justify anything here but anyone buying a car (naija used or toks) knows that there will always be minor fixes to make and set aside 50k - 100k. 4 Likes |
Re: MY Terrible Experience With CHUCKY234 by Philadelphia: 1:24pm On Oct 05, 2015 |
Scanfrost: And what is this one saying? ![]() What kinda statement is that? Is everybody from another tribe now a saint? Come and plead or else, I'll report you for breaking rule #2 12 Likes |
Re: MY Terrible Experience With CHUCKY234 by betandwin8484: 1:26pm On Oct 05, 2015 |
HumphreyBold: Yes at this modern age in developed countries, pre ordering is what makes the economy going, modern age pre ordering or buying something without seeing the opposite face is something normal. just Nigerians are scammers but am still saying it,, there are reliable dealers here.. imagine Op wants to buy MB 2002 model for 730K, is that not greed, that's why they always fall victims. we all want cheap stuffs.. 6 Likes |
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