Hey Shymex. . .you . . . and your Peckham

Shymm3x:


I'm good, Sir. I actually thought you went ghost on these sides and I was on a countdown to ghost-mode and everything should come to an end soon.

I wasn't even going to comment on thread till I saw "Peckham in North London" and "2 million Nigerians in the UK". Just had to correct the nonsense and elaborate on how immigrants are the same everywhere. However, that doesn't negate the fact that there are tons of high flyers doing great things. The success story of Nigerian businesses in the UK is a pointer.

Generally, I think Nigerians lack interpersonal/social skills and it's evident when dealing with an average Nigerian - hence other black folks can't stand Nigerians. And that's the honest truth about Nigerians. If anything, Peckham should be the most revered place in the UK by Nigerians. The place opened its doors to tons of Nigerians and it's still the melting point for Nigerians. Peckham's historical influence is something folks ought to adore, especially what it stands for concerning the story of Nigerians in the UK. I've never seen Jamaicans throw shades at Brixton/Handsworth (Birmingham)...on the flipside, they adore those places cos they represent Kingston in the UK and their story in the UK will never be complete without those places.

I still remember a lot of the faceoffs between Caribbeans and Africans (mostly Jamaicans and Ghanaians) in Peckham back in the day. And most people don't even know that a lot of gangs in Peckham started cos of that in Peckham. Peckham made a lot of Caribbeans start respecting Africans and as folks started moving from Peckham to other areas - they were demanding respect and that stopped the unnecessary mugging of Africans by Caribbeans. I remember the days of Tipsy (R.I.P), Kwesi, Knuckles, Timer et al and all the Nigerian/Ghanaian guys in the firehouse crew - these guys fought with everything to earn respect for Africans. Back when you could walk all the way from North Peckham Estate, through Aylesbury Estate in Walworth, and connect Elephant and Castle all via different council estates (they have knocked everything down now). We had our own madness in school when Caribbeans used to come in every Friday to whoop our African arses. Days when you were better off claiming Jamaica than Africa. All that changed in Peckham. These folks need to start paying homage.

Nigerians love reaping where they didn't sow and afterwards throw shades at folks at people and places who paved the way for them. The same way they throw shades at Peckham is the same way they throw shades at Caribbeans who created tons of opportunities for black people living in Great Britain. Without Caribbeans fighting with their blood, sweat, and tears - race relations in this country wouldn't be what it's today. And it's the same thing in America between Nigerians and African Americans. Sad. I honestly don't know if it's generational amnesia or Nigerians just lack common sense and the cerebral capacity/capability to acknowledge things and accord respect where it's due.

Ilaje44:
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Lizabeth25:
Who send them.. Then they should come back home nah..!

Most of them accept dirtier jobs than the ones naija can offer!

coogar:


your view is myopic.....
those dirty jobs pay and are taking care of the young & old in nigeria. nigerians in diaspora remit about $21 billion annually in the last 3 years and you are talking about being used as slaves. you need to grab a book and stop reading linda ikeji's blog.

dovelike:

True. I said Car, not motor lol. Not while I've been working for just a few months though.

I don't stay in London.

OnReflection:

Too right bruv.

It is clear that most of our people lack foresight, when they throw shade. As you rightly put it, with no real understanding of how the system works over the long term, most lay claim to "having arrived" prematurely. They forget that you cannot run a hundred miles as a sprint, that getting the best out of the system requires strategic thinking...I recall reading one article several years ago, where a Chinese man was supposed to have described Nigerians as people who "over celebrate and under achieve". When you look at our failure to establish lasting structures in the places where we once settled, that statement amounts to more than just another truism.

You will never the see the Uganda-Asians who settled in Leicester, some 40-something years ago, doing the peacock-walk. In fact, I double dare anyone to head to that city, today, and NOT return with glowing reports of just how buoyant this once maligned community of people has become.

However we slice and dice it; it is same places (communities) we now look down on, that remain the loci of Black political power in the UK.
Do I tell a lie when I credit Haringey (Tottenham), Hackney, and Brent (Brent South), as the boroughs which bequeathed us with our first Members of Parliament in 1987? Would anyone else but Bernie Grant - who was forced to adopt progressive politics by the way - have provided MKO Abiola with access to the British Parliament when the latter embraced the cause of reparations during his election campaign?

See, people either forget shitz or fail to connect with it in the first place.
I have not lived in Southwark for close to 20 years, but I will be damned if I allow anyone to malign the 'home of the brave'

saipn:
so u expected them to accept the meagre amount of money paid for the dirtier job as u quote it in naija?which is not enough to take care of their family?

Shymm3x:


You nailed, Sir. Albeit you forgot to include both Brixton and Notting Hill. The history of Notting Hill is an interesting one and most people don't know that there's a reason why there's a Notting Hill carnival.

I think the fundamental problem with Nigerians is that they have this vacuous sense of superiority and entitlement, and that creates a subconscious aversion to observing and connecting with their immediate environment. And this tend to rub off on other people wrongly. Nigerian also naturally hate history and paying attention to details. One can't forget the tensions that existed between the Nigerian and Caribbean communities for a long time. Though this generation has been able to bridge the gap in London and it's more subtle and not as pronounced as it used to be - it is still somewhat there cos of things of this nature. Nigerians generally don't understand the concept black brotherhood...the only concept they understand is individualism and vain glory.

You need to visit Southwark/Peckham before they knock down Aylesbury Estate in Walworth. That is the only place standing from structures that represent old school Peckham/Walworth axis. I doubt you'll recognise Elephant and Castle these days - apart from the shopping centre.

Obiwannn:

Yeah... Language.. Big barrier.
These persons you know, which of them are engineers and how many got to the very top of their careers?
And since you based in UK now, UK tax VS German Tax, which is worse?

am doing fine here,” Eke started. “I have worked as an assistant in a big store, then as a security and for four years now I have a stable job in a taxi company. I earn well to take care of my family and go to Nigeria once every two years. We have bought a house in the high profile Lekki in Lagos and I send money home regularly to my aged parents.”

ogaju007:

Lobatan where in Manchester?

Lizabeth25:
Even if humans are paid millions for the most dirtiest job, it will never be enough for them to take care of their families!

We just too greedy joor!

coogar:


you are a capital idïot!

60,000 naira will struggle to buy 600 litres of petrol. 2,000 pounds will buy 2,000 litres of petrol. i will rip everything you have learnt in economics into shreds within 30 mins if you permit me. £2,000 pounds is the equivalent of N60,000? i think you need to lie down and reappraise your intelligence quotient.

saipn:
chai na wa oooh,hope u read where i mentioned meagre amount of money?pls visit any Lebanese company in Nigeria and see how ppl are suffering..................

tobimillar:


I sent you a pm, did u see it?

ayodele234:

trust me you will understand with time. You are still busy converting currency. It is not my fault that you are brain dead but reality will eventually open your eyes. How come you are using petrol and not basics like accommodation?

How many average houses in Nigeria do you pay 90k a month to rent?

If you think earning 35,000 pounds annually in the UK. then talk to anyone living there. 35k pounds is living paycheck to paycheck. In time the truth will be revealed to you and your damaged head will be repaired and your ignorance punished!

otiigba1:
what! DId you say they knocked down Aylesbury estate? I have not been to that area for more than ten years now. I hear they are going to knock down elephant and castle centre too. Is the borough market along walworth road still there?

tpiander:
Shymexx

your attacks on this forum are a bit too focused and direct to be random or coincidental.

Would you like to share more about your story? I'm curious.

You have this passive aggressive manner of attacking in a way that makes look as if you're doing it innocently when in fact, it's very vicious and particular.

coogar:


you are a consummate retärd!

stüpidly, you opined that N60,000 and £2,000 have the same purchasing power. i used fuel as a reference point and your analysis fell flat on its face. no one is comparing currency - i am just exposing your idiocy by using basic arithmetic.



how many average houses in nigeria come with portable water, boiler, washer/dryer, phone line, internet hub, etc?



people who earn £40k per annum in the UK are in the top 10% of high salary earners so how can £35k pounds be paycheck to paycheck. this is how simpletons like you misinform the public on what you know nothing about.

Ilaje44:
Those guys complaining about being targeted by the Police should please go to the State of Bavaria or Baden-Wuerttemberg in Germany, they will understand what a police state is.

However, even though there are some overzealous or even racist police officers, some of the predicaments we face are self afflicted. Some of our people like to cut corners, beat the system, and when they're caught, the oyinbo begin to stereotype everyone, we become potential suspects.
Despite all these, UK still offer a better opportunity for you as an "educated" African when you compare it to Germany even though Germany is economically, organizationally and structurally miles ahead of the UK. For instance, it's easier to land an administrative position as an African in the UK than in Germany.
Anyway, the only cure to us being mistreated is to get our country to run. We will earn the respect we crave if our homeland start to show signs of sanity. I'm afraid that might not even happen in my life time considering the situation Nigeria finds itself right now. The mentality of an average Nigerian, the lack of foresight of the political leaders, and the fact that Nigeria has defied reforms that ensure the growth of stable institutions and infrastructures necessary for development among others are very troubling. I wish Nigeria well nonetheless!

NiRfreak:
AYE.MA FU GEE

Ilaje44:


Awa ye o! E le oma bami.

bebe2:
LONG STORY,

too many nigerians working themselves to death, so they can send money

to some ingrates in naija.

they have forgotten how to enjoy themselves and have fun

come oct 17th the groove is on , if u are in manchester come to my mums 80th birthday party.

no time to check timeooooo

NiRfreak:
Me ma pe wo le gbo........hope that place is sweet....and dnt forget ilaje needs you here too...Magbagbe ule o....ule nuse!

Ilaje44:


Ugba yi me se oma ana. Me se nile fo ede Ilaje? Emi yi mo wa obele nati Abaala l'obon n'Aiyetoro ugba yi a fi eja mi gba pupuru, garri, abatina etc. Ugba yi ogho nina ti to Igbekun... Me se ni gbede?