Rilwayne001:


What other defence do you want after all you've gotten from my brothers?

Rilwayne001:


The LORD regretted that he had made human beings on the earth, and his heart was deeply troubled.

Why that^?

Rilwayne001:


What other defence do you want after all you've gotten from my brothers?

truthman2012:


Quote and let's see what you call their defence.

aminusanti:


You and your followers are unaware of what u r doing/saying, by passing insults and criticism that won't prove you right. Honestly I dislike following this kind of thread because u guys are not here to share knowledge but hate and condemnation.

Christian missionaries forge their own interpretations to divert Believers away from Islam, the solution to mankind’s problems. The Holy Quran is absolutely free of rubbish and obscene material. The Prophets of God are respected in the highest level; Christians do not discredit their prophethood for corruption and sin, yet they discredit the Prophet Muhammad for “eating poison”. Yet the biographies of Muhammad are clear that he lived for many years after consuming the poison. The Prophet displayed tremendous energy after eating the poison, showing that the poison had no effect on him. The Prophet detected the poison whereas the companions failed to detect it.
 
The Prophet lived for four years after the poison!
 
Once the Holy Prophet (Sallallaho alaihe wasallam) was given food mixed with poison to eat. He who ate it first expired, but the Holy Prophet (Sallallaho alaihe wasallam) lived for four years even after taking that food. That food told the Holy Prophet (Sallallaho alaihe wasallam): There is poison in me.  

Consider the following facts that prove Muhammad was true: 
 
(1)   The Bible says false prophets can perform miracles (Matt. 24:24), the Prophet Muhammad’s greatest miracle was a Book, the Holy Quran.
 
(2)   John the Baptist performed no miracles (John 10:41), yet he was a true Prophet.
 
(3)   Jesus was poisoned on the cross; he was a true Prophet. 
 
(4)   Many true Prophets were killed (Matt. 23:7), but they were still true Prophets.
 
(5)   The Prophets of the Bible are guilty of major sins, e.g. incest, fornication, drunkenness, nudity, and they were True Prophets!
 
(6)   There are pre-Islamic predictions of Muhammad (peace be upon him)
 
Let us discuss the facts I have presented so far. The Bible says that even false prophets can perform miracles, the Israelite prophets did miracles, but the Prophet Muhammad’s miracle is the Holy Quran.
 
Most of the miracles of the previous Prophets were of a physical nature, whereas the greatest miracle of Muhammad (peace be upon him) is intellectual. We are referring to the Qur’ân. Perhaps the reason for this is that this miracle is for the lasting Message and must remain visible to all insightful people of every generation until the Day of Judgment. The miracles of the other Prophets have passed into history; no one experienced them except for those that were present at that time. The miracle of the Qur’ân, however, remains until the Day of Judgment. 
 
John the Baptist was a true Prophet but performed no miracles:
 
And many resorted unto him, and said, John did no miracle: but all things that John spake of this man were true. (John 10:41)

Let us discuss the poisoning of Jesus. According to the Gospels, Jesus was given a sponge full of vinegar, and immediately died seconds later.
Now there was set a vessel full of vinegar: and they filled a spunge with vinegar, and put it upon hyssop, and put it to his mouth. When Jesus therefore had received the vinegar, he said, It is finished: and he bowed his head, and gave up the ghost. (John 19:29-30)

This proves Jesus was poisoned, the vinegar is supposed to have stimulating effects, yet it killed Jesus instantly!

Annunaki:


Meanwhile don't let your fulani slave masters catch you addressing yourself as an òbá.

What are you talking about

Rilwayne001:


What other defence do you want after all you've gotten from my brothers?

malvisguy212:
liar. In broad day light, you are lying. NO muslims are able to reply the op instead you guys are busy discussing about movie (derailing the thread)

Rilwayne001:

Rilwayne001:


You can't read, can you?

malvisguy212:
nonsense. Did not angel Gabriel (satan in disguise) promise to healed muhammed ? Why did he die of the poison? Why did the angel gave him false hope? You call quran the greatest miracle ? Even the Jews who Allah say "he made no distinction with what was reaveled to them"

“Say: ’We believe in Allah, and in what
has been revealed to us and what was
revealed to Abraham, Isma'il, Isaac,
Jacob, and the Tribes, and in (the
Books) given to Moses, Jesus, and the
prophets, from their Lord: WE MAKE NO DISTINCTION between one and another
among them, and to Allah do we bow
our will (in Islam).’” (Qur’an 3: 84)

Allah is saying the previous scripture and the quran is the same message, but why dint the Jews see their scripture as miracle only the muslims? It is because muhammed did not performed miracle that why muslims are seriously searching for a way to link their false prophet to miracle. What a shame.

Rilwayne001:


Calm down moses, simply tell me what your problem is.


[b]

malvisguy212:
liar. In broad day light, you are lying. NO muslims are able to reply the op instead you guys are busy discussing about movie (derailing the thread)

truthman2012:


Bro. don't mind him, they are only deceiving themselves. In his mind he knows he is lying.

How did the posts Rilwayne01 quote answer the questions?

Why did allahh save Jesus from death and Muhammad allowed to eat poison that killed him?

Why was allahh unable to heal his greatest prophet and allowed him to suffer for as many as four whole years?

Why was Jubril's prayer and the promise that allahh would heal him fail?

One muslim out of his confusion of mind admitted Jesus too was poisoned to death on the cross, confirming the death of Jesus. Rilwayne quoted that same confirmation of Jesus death on the cross as his brother's defence. See desperation and confusion in action.

malvisguy212:
you can read , abi ? Read my post again and tell me if the quran is a miracle

or why did Gabriel give muhammed a false hope of healing.

truthman2012:

Bro. don't mind him, they are only deceiving themselves. In his mind he knows he is lying.

How did the posts Rilwayne01 quote answer the questions?

Why did allahh save Jesus from death and Muhammad allowed to eat poison that killed him? Why was allahh unable to heal his greatest prophet and allowed him to suffer for as many as four whole years? Why was Jubril's prayer and the promise that allahh would heal him fail?One muslim out of his confusion of mind admitted Jesus too was poisoned to death on the cross, confirming the death of Jesus. Rilwayne quoted that same confirmation of Jesus death on the cross as his brother's defence. See desperation and confusion in action.

aminusanti:

(1)   The Bible says false prophets can perform miracles (Matt. 24:24), the Prophet Muhammad’s greatest miracle was a Book, the Holy Quran.
 

(2)   John the Baptist performed no miracles (John 10:41), yet he was a true Prophet.
 

(3)   Jesus was poisoned on the cross; he was a true Prophet. 
 

(4)   Many true Prophets were killed (Matt. 23:7), but they were still true Prophets.

(5)   The Prophets of the Bible are guilty of major sins, e.g. incest, fornication, drunkenness, nudity, and they were True Prophets!
 

(6)   There are pre-Islamic predictions of Muhammad (peace be upon him)

 
Most of the miracles of the previous Prophets were of a physical nature, whereas the greatest miracle of Muhammad (peace be upon him) is intellectual. We are referring to the Qur’ân. Perhaps the reason for this is that this miracle is for the lasting Message and must remain visible to all insightful people of every generation until the Day of Judgment. The miracles of the other Prophets have passed into history; no one experienced them except for those that were present at that time. The miracle of the Qur’ân, however, remains until the Day of Judgment. 
 

John the Baptist was a true Prophet but performed no miracles:
 
And many resorted unto him, and said, John did no miracle: but all things that John spake of this man were true. (John 10:41)

Let us discuss the poisoning of Jesus. According to the Gospels, Jesus was given a sponge full of vinegar, and immediately died seconds later.
Now there was set a vessel full of vinegar: and they filled a spunge with vinegar, and put it upon hyssop, and put it to his mouth. When Jesus therefore had received the vinegar, he said, It is finished: and he bowed his head, and gave up the ghost. (John 19:29-30)

This proves Jesus was poisoned, the vinegar is supposed to have stimulating effects, yet it killed Jesus instantly!

Rilwayne001:


Look boy, I don't tell lies. You are the Ignorant idiot carrying about a moniker that is an opposite of your incredulous actions.



If it doesn't answer your question, then kindly refer back to that post and address it by quoting it one after the other. You'd do just that if you are truthful to yourself.



Will you go back and refute his points or not?

Rilwayne001:


There is no need arguing with you about whether the Quran is a miracle or not. You don't believe it is a miracle, then good for you.

You see, I don't have time for your stupíd nonsense today. The post I quoted raised the most pertinent points concerning the shenanigans wrote by the OP. Neither you nor the OP was able to refute it.

I believe the Quran is a miracle, yes, a potent miracle that is much more that physical miracle, if you don't believe so, its your cup of tea.

No time for BS with an Illiterate today.



[b] There is no false hope there. Gabriel is not Allah. He doesn't know when one will die, is own is to convey the message of Allah.

Now check this that you copied:

Ibn Sa’d, page 322:
Verily, whenever the apostle of Allah fell ill, he asked for recovery, from Allah [AND HE GETS HEALED] . But in the illness as a result of which he died, he did not pray for recovery; he used to say, “O soul! What has happened to thee that thou are seeking refuge in every place of refuge?”

What else do you want? According to the above, he already knew he was going to die as a result of that particular illness, hence the reason why he didn't bothered to ask God fir recovery.

Now consider the salient points raised by my brother up there

Once the Holy Prophet (Sallallaho alaihe wasallam) was given food mixed with poison to eat. He who ate it first expired, but the Holy Prophet (Sallallaho alaihe wasallam) lived for four years even after taking that food. That food told the Holy Prophet (Sallallaho alaihe wasallam): There is poison in me.

Consider the following facts that prove Muhammad was true:

(1) The Bible says false prophets can perform miracles (Matt. 24:24), the Prophet Muhammad’s greatest miracle was a Book, the Holy Quran.

(2) John the Baptist performed no miracles (John 10:41), yet he was a true Prophet.

(3) Jesus was poisoned on the cross; he was a true Prophet.

(4) Many true Prophets were killed (Matt. 23:7), but they were still true Prophets.

(5) The Prophets of the Bible are guilty of major sins,.e.g. Inbreeding, fornication, drunkenness, Unclothedness, and they were True Prophets!

(6) There are pre-Islamic predictions of Muhammad
(peace be upon him)

WHAT ELSE DO YOU WWANT [/b]

truthman2012:


Liar! Terrorist!!

Hey boy, take it easy.. Why call me a terrorist How have I terrorize you?

What point did he make? Total trash.

[s] Al-liar (allahh) has manipulated your brain just as he was tampering with Muhammad's brain making him to forget revelations (Quran 2:106). Am not surprised you cannot reason well, otherwise you will not consider any thread here as a defence. [/s]

malvisguy212:
trash. Gabriel is a spirit being, so Gabriel don't know the poison will kill muhammed ? Answer pleased.

Please write in English

mubarakopeyemi:
observing on the roof with my Fanta by my side. *Sips Drink*

Rilwayne001 U self take one Coke.

My bros, na jèdi-jédi be this o .. Anyways, I go sha take am like that.

Thank you.

malvisguy212:
trash. Gabriel is a spirit being, so Gabriel don't know the poison will kill muhammed ? Answer pleased.

Rilwayne001:


There is no need arguing with you about whether the Quran is a miracle or not. You don't believe it is a miracle, then good for you.

You see, I don't have time for your stupíd nonsense today. The post I quoted raised the most pertinent points concerning the shenanigans wrote by the OP. Neither you nor the OP was able to refute it.

I believe the Quran is a miracle, yes, a potent miracle that is much more that physical miracle, if you don't believe so, its your cup of tea.

No time for BS with an Illiterate today.



[b] There is no false hope there. Gabriel is not Allah. He doesn't know when one will die, is own is to convey the message of Allah.

Now check this that you copied:

Ibn Sa’d, page 322:
Verily, whenever the apostle of Allah fell ill, he asked for recovery, from Allah [AND HE GETS HEALED] . But in the illness as a result of which he died, he did not pray for recovery; he used to say, “O soul! What has happened to thee that thou are seeking refuge in every place of refuge?”

What else do you want? According to the above, he already knew he was going to die as a result of that particular illness, hence the reason why he didn't bothered to ask God fir recovery.

Now consider the salient points raised by my brother up there

Once the Holy Prophet (Sallallaho alaihe wasallam) was given food mixed with poison to eat. He who ate it first expired, but the Holy Prophet (Sallallaho alaihe wasallam) lived for four years even after taking that food. That food told the Holy Prophet (Sallallaho alaihe wasallam): There is poison in me.

Consider the following facts that prove Muhammad was true:

(1) The Bible says false prophets can perform miracles (Matt. 24:24), the Prophet Muhammad’s greatest miracle was a Book, the Holy Quran.

(2) John the Baptist performed no miracles (John 10:41), yet he was a true Prophet.

(3) Jesus was poisoned on the cross; he was a true Prophet.

(4) Many true Prophets were killed (Matt. 23:7), but they were still true Prophets.

(5) The Prophets of the Bible are guilty of major sins,.e.g. Inbreeding, fornication, drunkenness, Unclothedness, and they were True Prophets!

(6) There are pre-Islamic predictions of Muhammad
(peace be upon him)

WHAT ELSE DO YOU WWANT [/b]

Rilwayne001:


Please write in English

malvisguy212:

1. If you believe that it was God's will for Muhammad to have eaten the poison, along with Bishr, why then did
Muhammad try to get well? Even Gabriel prayed for Muhammad to get better, but Allah didn't answer that prayer either.

2.Why did Gabriel not know the will of
Allah? Why would Gabriel pray if Allah
had decided death?

3. Why did Muhammad force the other
Muslims to drink the medicine he was
given? One of them was one of his wives,and she was fasting. He forced her to break her fast and drink the medicine as well. Doesn't this sound vindictive and petty?

4.Why, when just before his death, did
Muhammad have to utter a curse upon
the Christians and the Jews? Wouldn't it
have been better for Muhammad to pray for guidance for them? This also sounds like a jealous, bitter prayer to Allah. Muhammad prayed for and uttered curses instead of asking Allah to guide people.

5. Why would pleurisy, which is a normal infection of the lung membrane, be considered to be from Satan, but being poisoned would not be from Satan?

Moses knew about his coming death
(Deut 34:1-5). Jesus also knew of His
future death (Mark 8:32, 32). Yet
Muhammad was in the dark until he
himself realized he was going to die.

Paul the apostle was bitten by a poisonous snake (Acts 28:1-6), but Paul
suffered no ill effects from the bite. God
had his hand of protection on Paul, to
finish the work laid out for him.

Muhammad died so suddenly that there was confusion as to would be the next ruler of the Islamic state. To this day,part of that confusion remains. The
Islamic world is divided in part because
of this issue (Shia vs. Sunni). Wouldn't
Allah, who abhors division within the
Ummah have protected Muhammad
long enough to insure that his state
remain unified, and a clearly defined
successor be named?

Jesus predicted false prophets would
come into the world and mislead many
(Matthew 24:24). Muhammad was such a false prophet. Both Jesus and Moses
knew God face to face, Muhammad only
had a spirit or angel he called "Gabriel"
speaking to him. In the end, even this
angel's prayers were not answered by
Allah. Could it be that this "Gabriel" was
preaching a false religion (Galatians 1:
to Muhammad? Could Gabriel have
been a deceptive demon or Satan
himself?

lexiconkabir:
which other religion apart from islam talks about jesus? the jews takes jesus and his mother as fraudsters, here you are ranting if isreal knew Allah! [size=18]why did your god ask parents to prove virginity by sticking their thumbs into the v'agina of their daughters?[/size] and why do your god regrets and gets troubled? why did your god said the earth does not move? *spits*

lexiconkabir:


No! the god of the jews is not the creator of the universe, you are defending the same jews that called your god(Jesus) and his mother fraudsters? same god of the jews that didn't know if ithra(jethra) was an Ishmaelite or an Israelite(2samuel17:25 versus 1chronicles2:17), you are a confused mofo! :-/



Allah does not like the smell of suya, so he is not the god of the jews.



yes!



dumb!



super dumb!



The bitter truth here is the god of the jews is a confused being, he knows next to nothing! dont be ignorant, the earlier you know, the better for you.



of course! Allah dont like the smell of suya



how foolish of you.



you've not made sense for once, i don't expect you to be sensible now. :-/



a long gone issue sent to the trash by nairaland muslims including myself, unlike the issue of mary at age 12 marrying 90year old joseph, ofcourse they co-habited after the birth of jesus, which you guys havent been brave enough to tackle, bunch of cowards!

now all you did was to run away from your problems that i created for you, and i will keep haunting you with it

here are your problems:-

[size=21pt]
(1)Is Rabbit is ruminant?

(2)Does the earth stay still?

(3)Does God regrets and gets troubled?

(4)Are parents allowed to stick their thumb into the v'agina of their daughters to prove her virginity?

note: your bible has the answer to the above questions, you know what i mean
[/size]

Visitor700:

In islam, violence by any group against the authority is completely rejected.

It is narrated from 'Abdullāh ibn al-'Abbās: that the Prophet said: "If someone dislikes his ruler, he must be patient, because if he comes against the ruler in a rebellious or destructive manner by only a handspan and dies, he dies in a state of pre-Islamic ignorance (jāhilīyyah) and sin."

Hudhayfa bin al-Yaman narrated a hadith in which he said: The Prophet said, “there will be after me leaders who do not follow my guidance and do not follow my Sunnah, and there will be among them men whose hearts are like those of Satan in the body of a human being.” And I asked the Prophet , “What I should do at that time if I reach it?” He said, “listen and obey the ruler, even if he lashed your back and took your money, listen and obey."

The Prophet (salallaahu 'alaihi wasallam) was asked regarding the unjust rulers. Awf bin Mālik: said, “O Prophet of Allah, do you recommend that we fight them?” He said, “No, don't fight them as long as they do not prevent you from your prayers. And if you see from them something that you dislike, dislike their acts, do not dislike them. And do not take your hand out from obedience to them."

muslims are prohibited from taking up arms against the authority. These terrorists are not true muslims and so they do not represent the true teachings of Islam.

Demmzy15:


I said not now or you want to force me?!

I need no one to verify or validate the Prophet's message because all he said can't be from a man but from the One True Almighty Allah. A Christian during the time of Prophet Muhammad knew he was the expected Prophet, so no need to blab about something you'll never know.

Concerning Paul, I know you're already shaking so lemme be nice on you. Firstly, how did Paul convert?!

Are you confused or what, what concerns hadith and Catholic. Oh! You're trying to defend Christians eating dead bodies of Muslims right?! Sorry to break it to you, this event happened in the 11-12th century while Catholic and Protestant nonsense was in the 15th century. So those who partook in the grievous crime were all Christians.

Abu Sufyan before he became a Muslim was one of the most vicious and severe enemy of the Prophet Muhammad, he contributed to killing of Muslims and taking over their properties. His enmity to the Prophet (p) degenerated into full scale war against him on the field of battle. He would also make fun of him with his tongue at public gatherings. Ali advised him to apologize to the Prophet for his wrongdoings and he complied. In fact his wife who ate the heart of Prophet Muhammad's Uncle became a Muslim.

Of course, if a conversion is forced it is not going to be a faithful “conversion”. Abu Sufyan’s conversion was sincere, so much so that he even put his life on the line by standing firm in protecting the Prophet (p) in the Battle of Hunayn.

When Abu Sufyan was about to die, he was recorded to have said:

Abu Ishaq As-Sibai said: when Abu Sufyan bin Al Harith bin Abdul Muttalib approached his death he said “Do not weep over my death for since I became a Muslim, I have not been tarnished”
Sa’d Yusuf Abu Aziz, Men and Women around the Messenger (p), Darussalam, 2009, p284

Does this look like forced conversion to you? A man who fought for Islam afterwards in which he lost his two eyes. After the Prophet died, he was the Governor Of Najran. Better come up with something better!