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Re: Falae: Yoruba Leaders Threaten Secession From Nigeria If… by IamAtribalist: 12:45am On Oct 09, 2015 |
Look at these idiots encouraging amala-eaters to leave Nigeria. Nigeria can even survive the exit of akpu-eaters but if amala-eaters leave Nigeria is finished. Quote me anywhere. The ONLY political force that can stand up to the Hausa-Fulanis are the amala-people of Western Nigeria. If they leave, Nigeria will be cest fini. QUOTE ME. 4 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Falae: Yoruba Leaders Threaten Secession From Nigeria If… by Shymm3x: 12:50am On Oct 09, 2015 |
IamAtribalist: Lol. But for amala-eaters to leave you need to deny them amala for a year cos amala is their kryptonite. And that's an impossible task. 6 Likes |
Re: Falae: Yoruba Leaders Threaten Secession From Nigeria If… by Gbigbonnew: 12:51am On Oct 09, 2015 |
Hmmmm! Just making mouth. No action. 1 Like |
Re: Falae: Yoruba Leaders Threaten Secession From Nigeria If… by jomoh: 12:52am On Oct 09, 2015 |
ElekeNtioba: If you as a Nigerian can believe this senseless post of a deranged tourist then you will also believe Igbos are more than Yorubas in Lagos. Likewise fulanis are more than Ighalas in Kogi. Also that hausas are more than others in Kaduna. Any sensible human must not say Fulanis are more than Yorubas in Kwara state let alone in Saki Oyo state. I wonder that one too would call himself a graduate who served Nigeria. 1 Like |
Re: Falae: Yoruba Leaders Threaten Secession From Nigeria If… by IamAtribalist: 12:55am On Oct 09, 2015 |
Shymm3x: ONE YEAR of no amala?!!!! IMPOSSICANT. Amala-eaters MUST eat amala. Just like akpu-eaters MUST eat akpu. Na so e be. 1 Like |
Re: Falae: Yoruba Leaders Threaten Secession From Nigeria If… by ElekeNtioba: 12:57am On Oct 09, 2015 |
jomoh: lol.....my people have done crazier things from time past to preserve their dignity e.g Igbo slaves where known to be suicidal. No such thing as meaningless death when you fight to be free. Go ask the Americans, the Chinese, french and others who fought to have their liberation. I wonder why its just yoruba who are eager to count casualties. Maybe thats why you abandoned Ilorin to the Fulani. U shouldnt be offended when pple call u cowards. 5 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Falae: Yoruba Leaders Threaten Secession From Nigeria If… by macof(m): 1:00am On Oct 09, 2015 |
Eintelekt: Well suit urself. igbos are nothing on their own. they have never will be |
Re: Falae: Yoruba Leaders Threaten Secession From Nigeria If… by Shymm3x: 1:01am On Oct 09, 2015 |
IamAtribalist: Oh well, then amala-eaters will forever be Nig.ger-areans, even when everyone has left the cesspit, while using pseudo-sophistication to mask docility and meekness. 2 Likes |
Re: Falae: Yoruba Leaders Threaten Secession From Nigeria If… by ElekeNtioba: 1:04am On Oct 09, 2015 |
jomoh: this is what Berom pple disregarded until matters got out of hand. Today, fulani cattle-rearers are counted in some places as indigenes of Plateau state. |
Re: Falae: Yoruba Leaders Threaten Secession From Nigeria If… by jomoh: 1:09am On Oct 09, 2015 |
ElekeNtioba: You forgot to name the achievement of the person that committed suicide while fighting for his right. Please don't compare the sacrifice of 3million souls for nothing to the fights of the French, Americans, and chinese. If americans don't count casualties why did they withdraw from vietnam war? Why did they withdraw from Iraq. The Americans, french and chinese that didn't count casualties had something else to be cheerful for. Their freedom. What does your people have to be cheerful for, for loosing 3million souls. Being called a coward doesn't offend me. As long am able to stand to piss on the stupid person's grave. You mention Ilorin. I won't argue with you on it. If you can believe that Fulanis are more than Yorubas in Saki then you would believe anything. But I should tell you one thing. If we are to fight the war 1million times between Yorubas and your tribe, you won't see draw. Its a FACT. Am out. 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Falae: Yoruba Leaders Threaten Secession From Nigeria If… by knowledgeable: 1:10am On Oct 09, 2015 |
Truckpusher: "IGBOS pls, take this news on its face value until. ......, it may be a false flag of which yorubas are expert on" 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Falae: Yoruba Leaders Threaten Secession From Nigeria If… by jomoh: 1:17am On Oct 09, 2015 |
ElekeNtioba: We are not berom people. We are Yorubas. "You only know Ibadan you don't know Laipo" ask any Ibadan man the meaning. Am out. Got to wake up by 3am. 4 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Falae: Yoruba Leaders Threaten Secession From Nigeria If… by macof(m): 1:18am On Oct 09, 2015 |
holychild87:it seems you think this is lala land. this is Nigeria. it has always been about ethnic battle for survival. more reason why should just come out and be sincere with yourselves Nigeria isn't working, it hasn't worked for 101 years it certainly won't work in another 100 1 Like |
Re: Falae: Yoruba Leaders Threaten Secession From Nigeria If… by IamAtribalist: 1:23am On Oct 09, 2015 |
Shymm3x: Your really think they are docile? I actually think that's part of their guile. Amala people ONLY show you exactly what they want you to see. Ojukwu also thought they were 'weak' until he tried to colonized them by force. History showed how they sent him back to the East with his tails between his legs -so they had no problem defending their region with remarkable success when they were invaded by a hostile military. They are the true political magicians of Nigeria - the more you look the less you see with these people. I am willing to bet that even this sudden call for cessation is part of a larger plot - somehow, I think they are masters of getting political advantage from the slightest of 'situations.' And this is why I believe other tribes can learn from the amala-eaters. Especially those akpu-eating flattheads from the East. They need to learn to be strategic and Machiavellian like the amala-eaters. Chest beating and empty boasts do not work to gain you advantage in Nigeria. Look at the richest men in Nigeria, Dangote, Otedola et. al - see how they still act like they are average guys who are still trying to make it. The Nigerian Zeigeist opposes braggadocio and wanton arrogance. And as long as chestbeating flattheads continue to act in this way, they will always remain 2nd class citizens in this country. Alas, I suspect the akpu-eaters recognize this hence their wanton cry for the return of Biafra. 7 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Falae: Yoruba Leaders Threaten Secession From Nigeria If… by cabaliciouscabal: 1:24am On Oct 09, 2015 |
chukwudi44: Have u gone round ur place, Brown roofs u comment abt, red soil, illiterates everywhere, kidnappers, 419ers, illicit drug dealers xtremly dirty set of people, to mention a few. #dounce44 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Falae: Yoruba Leaders Threaten Secession From Nigeria If… by Shymm3x: 1:48am On Oct 09, 2015 |
IamAtribalist: Lmao...I'll just post a reply to this grandiose delusion and hit the sheets. Amala-eaters aren't as savvy as they pretend to be in the wider context of the scheme of things within Nigeria - albeit when it comes to their Southern Nigerian contemporaries, they're head and shoulders above the rest. I think this is also one of the biggest problems with amala-eaters...they get too carried away cos of how uncompetitive the South is, while the real competition is bigger than the South. If you want to be a boss with bragging rights - then you have to be able to compete with other bosses, not those below you. And you'll see that every time the amala-eaters come in contact with ragheaded Jihadists up North - they always crumble like a pack of cards. That's how you grade guile, smart, and intelligence. If you think I'm lying - you can go back in time since Nigeria was created and check the duels between amala-eaters and ragheaded Jihadists. And you'll see that it has always been one-sided victory in favour of the latter. Heck, even Boo-harry and his Fulani gang just outsmarted the grossly overrated Tinubu the infamous Jagafvck - despite using his party structure, money, and influence to assume office. Another big loss for the delusional amala-eaters and their non-existent guile/sophistication inflicted by ragheaded Jihadists. And it has been the same story since independence. Even during times when it seems they're about to sneak in one victory - a Judas Iscariot always end up selling them out for a pot of porridge. That's the story of amala-eaters, hence I stopped rating them. The war was a war of necessity and the war general they fought against was a cowardly one. No rating for that one. Also, the strategic/Machiavellian attribute associated with amala-eaters is grossly overrated. That was bequeathed on them by the foresight of one man, Awolowo. Without him - they won't even control a quarter of what they control right now. Heck, due to docility, meekness, and being mentally lazy - they've allowed the rest to catch up with them. So you can't really praise them for what was gifted to them on a platter of gold and something they have failed to consolidate on. As for akpu (or whatever this is) eaters, they're babies in the game. Their history when it comes being within an administrative setting started with Nigeria. So you can really use them as a standard to define whatever qualities the amala-eaters possess. Hence I won't speak about them. 4 Likes |
Re: Falae: Yoruba Leaders Threaten Secession From Nigeria If… by knowledgeable: 1:50am On Oct 09, 2015 |
VirginFinder: Bro, unfortunately, the real world doesn't function like that. Whether you want to agree on not, yorubas have been cornered both in principle and in practicality. The continuous politics of betrayal of fellow Southern groups have reached a threshold, with outcomes like genocide, fulani herdsmen slaughtering unhindered, bokoharam, backwardness, extreme level of poverty, the destruction of the Niger Delta environment and etc, have become a function to the overall vulnerablity to the yoruba race, and hausa/fulani know that very well. Over time, your bargaining power is brought to zero by the forces of outcomes of your betrayal positions. You vulnerably stand alone. |
Re: Falae: Yoruba Leaders Threaten Secession From Nigeria If… by biafranqueen: 1:55am On Oct 09, 2015 |
This is a good news I will support them 100%!!!! They are tired of being a whipping boy to the North. Youruba stand up and tell them you want your own country, make everyone quene for green card and visa in Lagos, show the North you are not slaves, you people can make it on your own you have the seaport so no shaking! I am loving this news!!! 7 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Falae: Yoruba Leaders Threaten Secession From Nigeria If… by IamAtribalist: 1:56am On Oct 09, 2015 |
knowledgeable: Thank you Mr. Knowledgeable - this is EXACTLY what I have been saying here. Amala-people are too Machiavellian to be taken at face value. I spent a few years (during Obasanjo's presidency) in Oyo at the height of the power of that very popular politician (now late) - his amala politics was straight out of Machiavelli but I am damn sure that niccuh could not read a single word in English. These our SouthWestern compatriots are natural born Machiavellis - they are ALWAYS plotting. The average akpu-eater is way too mundane (ordinary) in his thinking to understand amala-politics. Chestbeating those not accomplish shit but when manufacturing and other non-oil investments continues to be centered in the SW (Lagos, Ogun and Oyo) then you have to doff your hat for these amala-people. Quote me anywhere. 1 Like |
Re: Falae: Yoruba Leaders Threaten Secession From Nigeria If… by biafranqueen: 1:58am On Oct 09, 2015 |
Rilwayne001:You have my support!!!! |
Re: Falae: Yoruba Leaders Threaten Secession From Nigeria If… by biafranqueen: 2:01am On Oct 09, 2015 |
gboss4sure:Nna you are absolutly right we have to support them to the fullest! We can dash them courage this is the best news I have heard since May! 2 Likes |
Re: Falae: Yoruba Leaders Threaten Secession From Nigeria If… by Shymm3x: 2:03am On Oct 09, 2015 |
IamAtribalist: But why compare amala-eaters with akpu-eaters, and not the "topman" in Nigeria, the ragheaded-Jihadist? Akpu-eaters are babies. Amala-eaters and ragheaded-Jihadists have been going at it since the 19th century - way before akpu-speakers could even speak a proper language that's intelligible. If amala-eaters can't outsmart the ragheaded-jihadists, then they're the most overrated people ever. And I'm Yoruba. It's annoying, really. 3 Likes |
Re: Falae: Yoruba Leaders Threaten Secession From Nigeria If… by Shymm3x: 2:11am On Oct 09, 2015 |
IAmatribalist I'm not going to bed anymore - I'll speak the truth about Yorubas today. Yorubas are the most overrated people in Nigeria. For a people with a long and highly developed history - they lack the smart and manoeuvrability folks with long history usually have. That's the honest truth. 2 Likes |
Re: Falae: Yoruba Leaders Threaten Secession From Nigeria If… by lebete3000: 2:44am On Oct 09, 2015 |
new2020: Hausaz will rather die than allow Yorubaz self-determination. Yorubaz decide whether Naija remains or not and d Hausaz know it. 3 Likes |
Re: Falae: Yoruba Leaders Threaten Secession From Nigeria If… by IamAtribalist: 2:51am On Oct 09, 2015 |
Shymm3x: Interesting. I will address your point one after the other. First let me clarify by saying that by 'akpu-eaters' I am referring to our chestbeating flatthead compatriots from the East. You know - our 'hardworking' country men who tell you they do import and export until you find out that what they are importing and exporting is illegals drugs and counterfeit goods. 1. Your First paragraph - your contention is that the amala-eaters are nothing but local champions considering the level of competition they have in the South and what you believe to be their 'inability' to deal a permanent political death blow to the Northerners. You are right but only to a point. It is true that the flattheads of the East are no match to the coneheads of the West. However, you forget that this was not the case before the civil war. In the late 50s when the flattheads starting to mention their desire to leave Nigeria, who was the most supportive of their quest? It was the coneheads. Even before 1958, the amala-eaters KNEW that the flattheads would fail woefully but recognize that the defeat of the flattheads would create a vacuum in the South that they would gladly fill. And as history showed, the said vacuum was created and the amala-people gladly filled it up. If you are a strong student of history, you should know that before the war there was a process in place to relocate the capital back to Calabar away from Lagos. Well the war ended all that - without the Biafra quest, encouraged by the amala people, the nerve center of Nigeria's economy would be Calabar and not Lagos. Now to issue of amala-eaters vs tuwo-downers: First what makes you think 'weakening' the Northerner almajiris is in in the interest of the amala-people? The amala-people know that NO ONE hates (with a deep passion) the flattheads more than the tuwo-downers of the North. Purely Machiavellian - My enemy's (remember the flatthead have sworn to hate the amala-eaters for the rest of eternity till hell freezes over) enemy is my friend - so why weaken the haram bigots?. Secondly, if indeed you believe that the amala-eaters have lost to the Northerner bigots (I don't see the evidence for it), then you have to admit that while the akpu-eaters have lost the war (Biafra anyone?) to the boko bigots the amala-eaters are STILL in it and gaining ground day by day. And on the issue of Judas lets be honest every Nigerian tribe has Judas. However the flattheads are heads and shoulders above everyone else in this department. It is save to say that there are more Judas in Mbaise ALONE than the entire amala-region of South West Nigeria. Concerning Tinubu - you have to doff your hat to ANY man who has the power to initiate the ARREST of the Senate President of any Republic let alone Nigeria simply because he was not his ideal candidate. No wonder he is referred to as Jagaban of Africa. And if you think that Buhari does not also want to get rid of Saraki (who by the way is another conniving and Machiavellian amala-eater) then you are still learning politics. Concerning how the amala-eaters sent the Biafran troops who dared to cross into the amala-region back East with their tails between their legs. The excuse of the cowardly general does NOT hold water. In war you fight to win and if you face a superior enemy you send your BEST. Perhaps Ojukwu really believed that the amala people were cowardly. Well the historical unfolding of events proved him wrong, which makes him a dumb and stupid general who could not separate fiction from reality. Concerning Awolowo - indeed he laid the foundation. However, others have built on it. Don't forget that Awolowo's Nigeria was different from Tinubu's or Fayose's Nigeria so don't expect Jagaban or Faye to thread the same path as the inventor of amala-politics himself, Awo. Jagaban is moving his people forward slowly but surely within the context of a Nigeria riddled by Boko Haram in the North and the agitation for cessation from the East and South. The amala-people have shown an ability to forge in path irrespective of the socio-political and ideological terrain. I will stop here and allow you to digest this very balanced serving of historical/political/tribal/inter-tribal/Nigerian reality. 3 Likes |
Re: Falae: Yoruba Leaders Threaten Secession From Nigeria If… by IamAtribalist: 2:58am On Oct 09, 2015 |
Shymm3x: Shymm3x Good welcome back. I have replied you in detail by quoting your previous post. I just read you are an amala-eater, I hope this is not too awkward for you? |
Re: Falae: Yoruba Leaders Threaten Secession From Nigeria If… by sukkot: 3:13am On Oct 09, 2015 |
Rilwayne001:lwkm. TGIF. na orijin day today bros |
Re: Falae: Yoruba Leaders Threaten Secession From Nigeria If… by Shymm3x: 3:39am On Oct 09, 2015 |
IamAtribalist: You're wrong on so many levels, but I'll deal with ya points one after the other. - Flat-heads are no match to amala-eaters and they most likely will never be due to the fact that they failed to have a communal growth from within, before they were lumped into Nigeria. Hence they thrive on individualism. I believe the Biafran war should've been the catalyst to bind them together, however, due to emotional impulse, without looking at the bigger picture - that has failed as well. So using a people devoid of the required political power/tact to be competitive as a premise for vacuous/obtuse exceptionalism and as a trump card is problematic. Also, at no point in the 50s did the flat-heads try to pull out of Nigeria - the only people who contemplated pulling out at that point in history were the ragheaded-Jihadists. - The capitals of Nigeria before Abuja were: Zungeru, Calabar, and Lagos. Lagos was the final spot for the colonists due to its history and its strategic location. At no point did anyone consider moving it back to Calabar and the only reason why it went from Zungeru to Calabar, was cos Northern Nigeria was the first to fall to the Colonists. Then once The Royal Niger Company took over Lower Niger - the capital was moved to Calabar. And when the whole of the Western region fell, and Southern Nigeria Protectorate was formed - Lagos became the most suitable place for the soon to be amalgamated country. History 101. That had absolutely nothing to do with the war. Heck, even when Zik protested that Lagos be cut off from the Western region - nobody listened to him. - This isn't about weakening the ragheaded-Jihadists - it's about using the non-existent and supposed smart/strategic/machiavellian approach to outsmart them. You don't play the enemy's enemy is my friend in a game where it's winner takes all and when trying to usurp the one in an advantageous position, unless you want to perpetually remain a lieutenant, which has been the case of the Yorubas. When will amala-eaters face the ragheaded-Jihadists and defeat them at their own game, if they're are as smart and strategic as they claim to be? This battle didn't just start today - it started in the 19th century and has been one-sided since then, apart from the Oshogbo war. Heck, the ragheaded-Jihadists threw the Jesus of the amala-eaters in prison on trumped-up charges and the amala-eaters didn't do anything about it. - The Tinubu story is comic relief to anyone who understands the basics of politics. How did he initiate the arrest of the Senate President? If he were to be politically savvy as most claim he's - he wouldn't have gone the route he went cos that'll most likely open the pandora's box since they're all guilty of the same charge. You don't play a card that'll fall on ya head in politics - you first gather the troops together, and then hit with shock and awe. He doesn't even have the troops in the senate to impeach anyone - he's not the black mamba and definitely not a lion - just a dog who likes barking. Nothing special about the guy. - Everything Awolowo built from industrial estates, to odua group of companies, to the companies acquired via indigenisation policy etc. are mostly what amala-eaters tout as their achievements till today. Save for a few individuals who achieved greatness by virtue of Awolowo's free education. What else have the amala-eaters been able to build since Awolowo left them? Even Ibadan with the first everything is in ruin. Amala-eaters are just noisemakers like the flat-heads. At least the flat-heads are who they're: babies. What about the amala-eaters who once occupied Oyo empire? They became slaves to ragheaded-Jihadists sired by some Uthman Dan Fodio the Jihad warlord of late 18th and early 19th century. What a shame! 4 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Falae: Yoruba Leaders Threaten Secession From Nigeria If… by pedrilo: 4:28am On Oct 09, 2015 |
modath:in support of which motion? They are deceiving themselves, if they ever think of cessation in this country, they'll be whipped back in line with brut force just like they did to others in the past, as according to Wole Soyinka, Records are not kept simply to assist the weakness of memory, but to operate as guides to the future. In fact FG should charge whoever released this statement with treason. How can you threaten the unity of this nation at the slightest provocation? #nonsense 1 Like |
Re: Falae: Yoruba Leaders Threaten Secession From Nigeria If… by Femiwilli: 4:37am On Oct 09, 2015 |
[size=14pt]I wish my people will push mouth aside and follow action. I respect the igbo's, they say they want out of this zoo called Nigeria. Not just mouthing off those who speak out. We can do well on our own. We have Oil, and business to tax for revenue. We have the Apapa port. We need to teach the North a lesson. We put them in power and they reward us by kidnapping our elders. I think we have had enough of this Zoo called Nigeria [/size] 1 Like |
Re: Falae: Yoruba Leaders Threaten Secession From Nigeria If… by modath(f): 4:39am On Oct 09, 2015 |
Femiwilli: Yoruba ko, yoruje ni, there is nothing yoruba about you, you gave yourself up by the "zoo" reference.... It is a purely Ibo sentiment... 2 Likes |
Re: Falae: Yoruba Leaders Threaten Secession From Nigeria If… by franudi: 4:42am On Oct 09, 2015 |
Yorubas are born slaves for the hausa/fulanis, so they are going nowhere.Igbos have been oppressed in this country since the inception of this country,but whenever igbos talk about secession the foolish yorubas will be making jest of it. Just because olu falae was kidnaped they have woken up to their senses. In this secession issue the yorubas are on their own,this was how the foolish awolowo decieved Ojukwu and betrayed the Igbos. This secession had been in the yoruba mind but they are cowards born to serve the hausa/fulanis. Idiots! 3 Likes |
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