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Why Mohamed Cannot Possibly Be A Prophet Of The True God. by Annunaki(m): 7:16pm On Oct 13, 2015 |
MOSLIMS WHY MUHAMMAD IS NO PROPHET.THE END OF YOUR BULLSHIT CLAIMS. Why Muhammad was not a prophet? It is impossible that a man in his mid-54’s could engage in sexual intercourse with a nine-year-old child (Aysha), and be a prophet of G-d. It is impossible that a man could finance his religious and political community by robbing the trade caravans that passed through his area on their annual trips between Arabia and Syria, and be a prophet of G-d. It is impossible that a man could encourage his adopt son (Zeid) to divorce his wife (Zeinab) so that he, the father, could marry her, and be a prophet of G-d. It is impossible that a man could lie to his wife (Hafsa) to get her out of the house so that he could sleep with the slave girl (Mariyah) he had given her as a gift, and be a prophet of G-d. It is impossible that a man could call other men to follow him, and then watch them die one after the other in the battles he instigated to build his empire while giving them promises of the sexual Paradise with 72 virgins that awaited them, and be a prophet of G-d. It is impossible that a man could behead three Jewish tribes men who had lived in his city for centuries for the simple reason they refused to accept him as their leader, and be a prophet of G-d. It is impossible that a man could trade the Jewish wives and daughters of the men he had just beheaded for weapons and horses, and be a prophet of God. It is impossible that a man could be so fearful of criticism that he would send a man at night to kill the mother of a nursing child because of the poems she had written against him, and be a prophet of G-d. It is impossible that a man could sentence a woman to death by having her limbs attached to camels that moved in opposite direction pulling her apart, then behead her and parade her severed head through Medina, and be a prophet of G-d. It is impossible that a man could torture a young Jewish tribal leader to death to obtain his money, and then "marry" his 17-year old widow (Safiya) the same night, and be a prophet of G-d. It is impossible that a man could allow his followers to have sex with their female slaves as well as their prisoners of war, whether or not they were married, and be a prophet of G-d. Peace. Source: facebook 14 Likes 5 Shares |
Re: Why Mohamed Cannot Possibly Be A Prophet Of The True God. by Annunaki(m): 7:20pm On Oct 13, 2015 |
It's important we keep sharing threads like this to help our muslim brethen Realise they are being deceived and help them get delivered from the satanic clutches of Islam. 4 Likes |
Re: Why Mohamed Cannot Possibly Be A Prophet Of The True God. by Nobody: 7:36pm On Oct 13, 2015 |
mohammed was not only mad, he was crazy as well
... remove mohammed from history and this world would ve been paradise. 5 Likes |
Re: Why Mohamed Cannot Possibly Be A Prophet Of The True God. by Nobody: 7:40pm On Oct 13, 2015 |
muhammad did all these? lies! i don't believe it! give me the passages and let me go and check it myself. 1 Like |
Re: Why Mohamed Cannot Possibly Be A Prophet Of The True God. by truthman2012(m): 7:49pm On Oct 13, 2015 |
With all the atrocities committed by Muhammad the quran still calls him and the followers the best of mankind. What would he have done to be the worst of mankind? The quran is a lie and allahh the best of deceivers. 6 Likes |
Re: Why Mohamed Cannot Possibly Be A Prophet Of The True God. by johnydon22(m): 7:54pm On Oct 13, 2015 |
Teempakguy: Muhammed was a complete Pervert.. he was a chronic pedophile .. He married a child of 6 and consummated the marriage at the age of 9 . . He was a complete lunatic pervert.. He even claimed to have rode a flying horse and split the moon like WTF And people with brains actually believe this shiit just like some believe someone was strolling on a body of water.. Anyway Muhammed was actually a despicable human in respect to his pedophilia actions.. But i don't really interfere on a thread like this where people be dragging who got the better imaginary friend.. I just let them do that in peace .. 4 Likes |
Re: Why Mohamed Cannot Possibly Be A Prophet Of The True God. by lekankolade(m): 8:14pm On Oct 13, 2015 |
Did Holy Prophet Muhammad commit sin? We will often find Christians taking a lot of pain to prove that Prophet Muhammad was not sinless and Prophet Jesus was so. Indeed all the Prophets including, Jesus and Muhammad, peace be upon them both, were sinless and at times some mistakes made by them were not sins as such. In the following lines we do explain the whole thing and expose another Christian lie. SOME QURANIC VERSES AND THEIR ACTUAL MEANING: Allah Almighty says in the Holy Quran: ﻓﺎﺻﺒﺮ ﺇﻥ ﻭﻋﺪ ﺍﻟﻠﻪ ﺣﻖ ﻭﺍﺳﺘﻐﻔﺮ ﻟﺬﻧﺒﻚ ﻭﺳﺒﺢ ﺑﺤﻤﺪ ﺭﺑﻚ ﺑﺎﻟﻌﺸﻲ ﻭﺍﻟﺈﺑﻜﺎﺭ “Patiently, then, persevere: for the Promise of Allah is true: and ask forgiveness for thy fault ( wastaghfir li-zanbika ) , and celebrate the Praises of thy Lord in the evening and in the morning.” (Quran 40:55) ﺍﻋﻠﻢ ﺃﻧﻪ ﻟﺎ ﺇﻟﻪ ﺇﻟﺎ ﺍﻟﻠﻪ ﻭﺍﺳﺘﻐﻔﺮ ﻟﺬﻧﺒﻚ ﻭﻟﻠﻤﺆﻣﻨﻴﻦ ﻭﺍﻟﻤﺆﻣﻨﺎﺕ ﻭﺍﻟﻠﻪ ﻳﻌﻠﻢ ﻣﺘﻘﻠﺒﻜﻢ ﻭﻣﺜﻮﺍﻛﻢ “Know, therefore, that there is no god but Allah, and ask forgiveness for thy fault ( wastaghfir li-zanbika ), and for the men and women who believe: for Allah knows how ye move about and how ye dwell in your homes.” (Quran 47:19) ﻟﻴﻐﻔﺮ ﻟﻚ ﺍﻟﻠﻪ ﻣﺎ ﺗﻘﺪﻡ ﻣﻦ ﺫﻧﺒﻚ ﻭﻣﺎ ﺗﺄﺧﺮ ﻭﻳﺘﻢ ﻧﻌﻤﺘﻪ ﻋﻠﻴﻚ ﻭﻳﻬﺪﻳﻚ ﺻﺮﺍﻃﺎ ﻣﺴﺘﻘﻴﻤﺎ “That Allah may forgive thee ( li-yaghfira laka) thy faults ( zanbika) of the past and those to follow; fulfill His favour to thee; and guide thee on the Straight Way;” (Quran 48: 2) A TOKEN OF HUMILITY AND MODESTY: One of the morals taught to man by Islam is also this: however hard and sincerely may man be trying to serve and worship his Lord and fighting and struggling in the cause of His Religion, he should never be involved in the misunderstanding that he has done and accomplished whatever he was required to do. Rather, on the contrary, he should have the feeling that he has not been able to do full justice to what was expected of him by his Lord and Master. Therefore, he should confess his errors constantly and pray to Allah saying 'Lord, forgive me for whatever fault and error I may have committed in Your service." , this is indeed the essence of Allah's Command: 'O Prophet. ask forgiveness for your fault ..'' And in Hadith we find Holy Prophet (PBUH) praying exactly on the same lines, e.g. ﺍﻟﻠﻬﻢ ﺍﻏﻔﺮ ﻟﻲ ﻣﺎ ﻗﺪﻣﺖ ﻭﻣﺎ ﺃﺧﺮﺕ ﻭﻣﺎ ﺃﺳﺮﺭﺕ ﻭﻣﺎ ﺃﻋﻠﻨﺖ “O Allah! Forgive me my sins that I did in the past or will do in the future, and also the sins I did in secret or in public.” (Sahih Bukhari, Hadith 5919) This does not mean that the Holy Prophet had actually committed an error willfully, but its correct meaning is that it did not even behoove the servant who was the greatest worshiper of his Lord that he should harbor even a tinge of the pride of accomplishment in his heart, but his true position also was that in spite of all his great and glorious services he should continue confessing his shortcomings before his Lord. It was under this state of the mind that the Holy Prophet often implored his Lord for forgiveness. One also needs to understand that for a person with more responsibility and greater honor, the standards are also different. Holy Prophet (PBUH) received direct revelations from the Almighty so he was supposed to be the best and at times when he had actually done no wrong as we can see, he was still admonished because of the higher levels set for him. Further, there is a Hadith that gives the answer of the Holy Prophet (PBUH) as to why did he pray to Allah so much and seek His Mercy: ﻋﻦ ﺍﻟﻤﻐﻴﺮﺓ ﻳﻘﻮﻝ ﻗﺎﻡ ﺍﻟﻨﺒﻲ ﺻﻠﻰ ﺍﻟﻠﻪ ﻋﻠﻴﻪ ﻭﺳﻠﻢ ﺣﺘﻰ ﺗﻮﺭﻣﺖ ﻗﺪﻣﺎﻩ ﻓﻘﻴﻞ ﻟﻪ ﻏﻔﺮ ﺍﻟﻠﻪ ﻟﻚ ﻣﺎ ﺗﻘﺪﻡ ﻣﻦ ﺫﻧﺒﻚ ﻭﻣﺎ ﺗﺄﺧﺮ ﻗﺎﻝ ﺃﻓﻠﺎ ﺃﻛﻮﻥ ﻋﺒﺪﺍ ﺷﻜﻮﺭﺍ Narrated Al-Mughira (RA): The Prophet used to offer night prayers till his feet became swollen. Somebody said, to him," "Allah has forgiven you, your faults of the past and those to follow." On that, he said, "Shouldn't I be a thankful slave of Allah)?" (Bukhari, Hadith 4459) A TEACHING FOR THE FOLLOWERS: Holy Prophet (PBUH) used to ask Allah for forgiveness as a token of his modesty and also to teach his companions and followers to do the same. ﻗﺎﻝ ﺃﺑﻮ ﻫﺮﻳﺮﺓ ﺳﻤﻌﺖ ﺭﺳﻮﻝ ﺍﻟﻠﻪ ﺻﻠﻰ ﺍﻟﻠﻪ ﻋﻠﻴﻪ ﻭﺳﻠﻢ ﻳﻘﻮﻝ ﻭﺍﻟﻠﻪ ﺇﻧﻲ ﻟﺄﺳﺘﻐﻔﺮ ﺍﻟﻠﻪ ﻭﺃﺗﻮﺏ ﺇﻟﻴﻪ ﻓﻲ ﺍﻟﻴﻮﻡ ﺃﻛﺜﺮ ﻣﻦ ﺳﺒﻌﻴﻦ ﻣﺮﺓ Narrated Abu Huraira : I heard Allah's Messenger saying. " By Allah! I ask for forgiveness from Allah and turn to Him in repentance more than seventy times a day." (Sahih Bukhari, Hadith 5832) Another narration makes it absolutely clear that he prayed to Allah this way as a token of modesty and more importantly to teach his followers: ﻳﺤﺪﺙ ﺍﺑﻦ ﻋﻤﺮ ﺃﻧﻪ ﺳﻤﻊ ﺭﺳﻮﻝ ﺍﻟﻠﻪ ﺻﻠﻰ ﺍﻟﻠﻪ ﻋﻠﻴﻪ ﻭﺳﻠﻢ ﻳﻘﻮﻝ ﻳﺎ ﺃﻳﻬﺎ ﺍﻟﻨﺎﺱ ﺗﻮﺑﻮﺍ ﺇﻟﻰ ﺭﺑﻜﻢ ﻓﺈﻧﻲ ﺃﺗﻮﺏ ﺇﻟﻴﻪ ﻓﻲ ﺍﻟﻴﻮﻡ ﻣﺎﺋﺔ ﻣﺮﺓ Ibn Umar narrated: I heard Allah's Messenger saying, "O people ask Allah for forgiveness verily I ask Him for forgiveness hundred times a day." (Musnad Ahmad Hadith 17173) The very words of the Hadith above prove that he did and said this to inspire his followers to repent to Allah often. Another interesting point we need to consider here is that Quran 48:2 quoted above which says all the past and future sins of the Holy Prophet (pbuh) are forgiven was revelaed in 6th year after Hijrah while Abu Huraira, who is the narrator of the hadith saying that Holy Prophet (pbuh) repented 70 times a day, accepted Islam and came to the Holy Prophet in the 7th year after Hijrah. This proves Holy Prophet (pbuh) prayed even after Allah that verse was revealed. This is enough to prove that it was only out of modesty and to teach the followers. ETYMOLOGY OF THE ARABIC WORDS USED: According to Mufarridat fi Gharaib al-Quran , a book on the etymology of the Quranic words, by Isfahani, the word ‘ Ghafar ’ means ‘to cover with something that protects from dirt’ (vol.1 p.362). Keeping this in mind the verses can mean that Holy Prophet (PBUH) is asked to pray to be saved from the sins. And as to the word ‘ zanb ’ which generally means ‘sin’ Isfahani in his above mentioned books says; ‘it is used for every deed whose outcome is not good.’ (vol.1 p.181) This makes it evident that the word can be used for everything whose outcome is not good or as expected. The following supports our contention on these lines. AN EXAMPLE OF A 'SIN' WHEN IT COMES TO THE PROPHET (PBUH): Holy Prophet (PBUH) was once even admonished by the Almighty and that one event clearly shows what the matter was. It is stated in Qur'an 80:1. ﻋﺒﺲ ﻭﺗﻮﻟﻰ ) 1( ﺃﻥ ﺟﺎﺀﻩ ﺍﻟﺄﻋﻤﻰ )2 ( ﻭﻣﺎ ﻳﺪﺭﻳﻚ ﻟﻌﻠﻪ ﻳﺰﻛﻰ ) 3( ﺃﻭ ﻳﺬﻛﺮ ﻓﺘﻨﻔﻌﻪ ﺍﻟﺬﻛﺮﻯ ) 4( ﺃﻣﺎ ﻣﻦ ﺍﺳﺘﻐﻨﻰ ) 5( ﻓﺄﻧﺖ ﻟﻪ ﺗﺼﺪﻯ )6 ( ﻭﻣﺎ ﻋﻠﻴﻚ ﺃﻟﺎ ﻳﺰﻛﻰ )7 ( ﻭﺃﻣﺎ ﻣﻦ ﺟﺎﺀﻙ ﻳﺴﻌﻰ ) 8( ﻭﻫﻮ ﻳﺨﺸﻰ )9 ( ﻓﺄﻧﺖ ﻋﻨﻪ ﺗﻠﻬﻰ "He frowned and turned away his face because there came up to him the blind man. And what would make you know that he might reform, or heed the admonition, and admonishing might profit him? As for him who is indifferent, to him you attend, though you would not be responsible if he did not reform. And the one 'who comes to you running, of his own will, and fears, from him you turn away." (Qur'an 80:1-10) It so happened that Holy Prophet (PBUH) was talking to some leaders of Makkah who had not embraced Islam and right them one of his companions Ibn Umm Maktum came in and Holy Prophet (PBUH) disliked his entry at that time. In fact Holy Prophet (PBUH) thought that even if a single man from among the people whom he was trying to bring to the right path, listened to him and was rightly guided, be could become a powerful means of strengthening Islam. Therefore, none of his companions should interrupt at that time; whatever he wanted to ask or learn, he could ask or learn at some later time. By this style the Holy Prophet (PBUH), by a subtle method, has been made to realize that it was an act unseemly for him. Had somebody familiar with his high morals witnessed it, he would have thought that it was not he but some other person who had behaved in that manner. So, this was a deed which the Holy Prophet (PBUH) did, and was disliked by the Almighty Allah. We can see Holy Prophet's (PBUH) intention was not to commit sin and hurt anyone but Allah who knew that those to the Prophet was talking were not sincere but the blind man who came was sincere. And so he was admonished. This is a clear manifestation that for Holy Prophet (PBUH) the standards were much higher. And so what’s called a 'sin' is only this much when it comes to The Most Perfect of All Humans. NOW LET ME TURN THE TABLES! Having explained the Quranic verses that Christians misinterpret, now we come to the Bible and what it tells us about Jesus Christ (PBUH) whom Christians take not a holy man or perfect human but God Incarnate. According to the Gospel of Matthew: Jesus (PBUH) prayed to the Father in the Heaven; “And forgive us our debts, as we forgive our debtors.” (Matthew 6:12) The Greek word translated as ‘debts’ is opheilēma ( of-i'-lay-mah ) , which according to Strong’s Bible Dictionary (Entry G3783) means ‘something owed, that is, (figuratively) a due.; morally a fault: - debt.’ In Thayer’s lexicon the words ‘offense’ and ‘sin’ are clearly used. Infact according to Smith and Van Dyke Arabic Bible , the word used to denote the actual Greek word is ‘ zunubana ’ (i.e. our sins): ( ﻭﺍﻏﻔﺮ ﻟﻨﺎ ﺫﻧﻮﺑﻨﺎ ﻛﻤﺎ ﻧﻐﻔﺮ ﻧﺤﻦ ﺃﻳﻀﺎ ﻟﻠﻤﺬﻧﺒﻴﻦ ﺇﻟﻴﻨﺎ ) transliterated as ‘waghfirlana zunubana’ i.e. forgive us our sins. Infact same words are used in Quran and Hadith where there is a mention of sin concerning Prophet Muhammad (PBUH). Agreed that the context of the verse says he asked his disciples to pray this way but Bible proves he himself often prayed to God and it no where says he prayed differently. Further Jesus (pbuh) was Baptized by John the Baptist and we know about John the Basptist; "And he came into all the country about Jordan, preaching the baptism of repentance for the remission of sins." (Luke 3:3) Now Christians can take only two courses; either they can argue that this is only in fugitive sense or a lesson for the disciples and later followers. We, the Muslims, have no problem with either of these explanations but this only exposes the double standards of the Christians. If Jesus Christ, the ‘God Incarnate’ and a ‘God’ himself can pray for the forgiveness of his sins and take the Bapstism of repentance then there is no problem in Prophet Muhammad who was human only, indeed the best and perfect of them but a human still, doing the same. A human, however great needs to show his modesty but not so a divine person as Christians think of Jesus. And also the fact that it makes more sense of Prophet Muhammad (PBUH), who came with a doctrine of salvation based on good deeds and repentance, asking the Almighty God for forgiveness teaching his followers the same then Jesus (PBUH) who as per Christian belief brought the gift of salvation merely through his own vicarious sacrifice. These double standards of the Christians remind one of Jesus (PBUH) who said: "First cast out the beam out of your own eye; and then shall you see clearly to cast out the mote out of your brother's eye." (Matthew 7:5) And also: "You blind guides, you strain out a gnat, and swallow the camel." (Mathew 23:24) INDEED ALLAH KNOWS THE BEST !!! 4 Likes |
Re: Why Mohamed Cannot Possibly Be A Prophet Of The True God. by Annunaki(m): 10:10pm On Oct 13, 2015 |
Teempakguy: What's written here is just a tip of the iceberg, in reality he did far worse than is recorded here. 1 Like |
Re: Why Mohamed Cannot Possibly Be A Prophet Of The True God. by tonie123: 1:21am On Oct 14, 2015 |
lekankolade: Very long write up but I took the pains to read it. But there are some things I stilll don't get, are you trying to justify his actions because he prayed for forgiveness? And also somewhere you said he didn't do those things willingly, was he under the influence of drugs or alcohol or where any of those sinful act unavoidable? Oga sir to him whom much is given much more is expected, put yourself in his shoes if you God a revelation Allah you saw and heard from him constantly, allah personally sent you to teach his commandment to his people...... Are you trying to tell me that you would have comittted those much atrocities? Even after you've had 1 on 1encounter with allah? Come on, think about this, I think there is something wrong somewhere. 7 Likes |
Re: Why Mohamed Cannot Possibly Be A Prophet Of The True God. by Annunaki(m): 10:58am On Oct 14, 2015 |
tonie123: Don't mind him, the problem is that muslims have been brainwashed from birth to believe that mohamed is the "best of mankind" so when Mohamed's numerous atrocities are presented to them they enter denial mode despite glaring evidences from their 'holy' books or they try and justify the evil he did. The danger in presenting a vermin like mohamed who killed, raped and plundered as a role model for mankind is evident in what isis and boko haram who are the true followers of mohamed are doing today. To defeat terrorism we have to defeat the ideology called Islam cause Islam is the root cause of islamic terrorism and no amount of denial by muslim apologists can change this fact. 5 Likes |
Re: Why Mohamed Cannot Possibly Be A Prophet Of The True God. by tartar9(m): 3:07pm On Oct 14, 2015 |
Annunaki:looks like you confusing your god and biblical prophets for Muhammad(SAW) |
Re: Why Mohamed Cannot Possibly Be A Prophet Of The True God. by Annunaki(m): 3:52pm On Oct 14, 2015 |
tartar9: Dunce it's obvious to me you are ashamed orf your pathetic "prophet" thus you are in denial of the evils he perpetrated even though it's clearly recorded in your so called holy books. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Why Mohamed Cannot Possibly Be A Prophet Of The True God. by tartar9(m): 5:09pm On Oct 14, 2015 |
Annunaki:shut your an*s MORÔN! Prophets don't sin in Islam,even if there is any hadith that shows otherwise it simply renders such hadith void,they are not the maniacs in your bible.all the nonsense you posted including genocide,mass rape,taking other people's wives to crushing babies with rocks or sending bears to dismember children and numerous other atrocities are all typical of your biblical prophets and that crucified IDIOT! you worship.I don't expect a brainless goat like you to feel any shame or repulsion over those acts nd thats your business but dont you ever associate those evils on the holy being of the Seal of Prophethood Muhammad(SAW) just let them stay on your dead god. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Why Mohamed Cannot Possibly Be A Prophet Of The True God. by TrajansKong: 5:20pm On Oct 14, 2015 |
tartar9: Crucified he may have been, but can your beloved prophet rise from the dead and dance like THIS?? I think not. 2 Likes
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Re: Why Mohamed Cannot Possibly Be A Prophet Of The True God. by Annunaki(m): 6:17pm On Oct 14, 2015 |
tartar9: That means your useless quoran to is void because several sins of mohamed are recorded in it. Raping of se.x slaves and instructions to murder non muslims in the quoran comes to mind here. 5 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Why Mohamed Cannot Possibly Be A Prophet Of The True God. by Anas09: 11:38pm On Oct 14, 2015 |
Tartar have u finished ur secondry school yet? And how's the treatment for that ur depression going? Ifeann helped U to see who ur so called prophet truelly was, instead of denouncing him and be bcome free, you dived into depression. The revelation is too disheartening right. Calm down, don't get a seizure for a dead pedophile. He's gone, he won't come back. 5 Likes |
Re: Why Mohamed Cannot Possibly Be A Prophet Of The True God. by tartar9(m): 12:41am On Oct 15, 2015 |
Annunaki:like I said;stop confusing the Holy Qur'an for your bible. |
Re: Why Mohamed Cannot Possibly Be A Prophet Of The True God. by tartar9(m): 12:46am On Oct 15, 2015 |
Anas09:Anus09 you're high sniffing your gay partner's fermented shît again. 1 Like |
Re: Why Mohamed Cannot Possibly Be A Prophet Of The True God. by tartar9(m): 12:51am On Oct 15, 2015 |
Teempakguy:you're like one who wants to learn Judaism from a Nazi. |
Re: Why Mohamed Cannot Possibly Be A Prophet Of The True God. by Nobody: 1:43am On Oct 15, 2015 |
tartar9:the above is true or not? 1 Like |
Re: Why Mohamed Cannot Possibly Be A Prophet Of The True God. by Annunaki(m): 6:55am On Oct 15, 2015 |
tartar9: There is nothing holy about that evil terror manual you call the quoran. 3 Likes |
Re: Why Mohamed Cannot Possibly Be A Prophet Of The True God. by Weah96: 7:04am On Oct 15, 2015 |
Annunaki: NOTHING is impossible for the God who allegedly allowed HIMSELF to get violently murdered at the hands of ordinary human beings. If the God was willing to murder almost 50 children for screaming bald man at a bald man, then surely he wouldn't oppose the sexual union between a grown man and a little baby girl. In fact, given his track record of sanctioning the deaths of women and children, and his preference for keeping sex slaves as a reward for a job well done, it would be unusual for him to react otherwise to the pedophilia. |
Re: Why Mohamed Cannot Possibly Be A Prophet Of The True God. by tonychristopher: 7:28am On Oct 15, 2015 |
Annunaki: You have asked a very crucial question but mark my word..none and I mean no Muslim will answer this . they prefer indoctrination Let me wait for answers But this count charges high shaaa Are you sure oga Muhammed did all these ....where can I read am |
Re: Why Mohamed Cannot Possibly Be A Prophet Of The True God. by Humblebloke(m): 7:45am On Oct 15, 2015 |
These arabian and jewish culture worshippers tho..... What do the xtians want from the moslems...... You want them to dump their own delusions for yours |
Re: Why Mohamed Cannot Possibly Be A Prophet Of The True God. by Annunaki(m): 8:02am On Oct 15, 2015 |
Humblebloke: I haven't advocated they join any religion, I am only exposing the truth about their 'prophet' so they can make an informed decision to dump their hate filled religion. It's a confirmed fact that Islam is the biggest threat to world peace today so we must all join hands to fight this cancer irrespective of religion or creed. 2 Likes |
Re: Why Mohamed Cannot Possibly Be A Prophet Of The True God. by Humblebloke(m): 8:37am On Oct 15, 2015 |
Annunaki: You are right..... Religion Is a cancer....(Particularly islam and christianity) I still can fathom how sane humans will defend a padeophile who commited so. many attrocities....... Claiming that he brought a message from the one true god The other group believes that a god came down to earth through a virgin..... Sacrificed himself to himself..rose back to some imaginary place after claiming he had come to save them from what he was going to do to them....... He told to them he loved them......... All they need do was love and worship him so as not to to incure his wrath.... Who believes in these fairytales Personally.... I have studied the quran and the bible...and there is not much difference except for the. Jesus and. Muhammed/one true god theory... Muslims and christians believe in the heaven, hell and afterlife theory........ I really see no reason for you to criticize them....... Your religion is not any better. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Why Mohamed Cannot Possibly Be A Prophet Of The True God. by tonie123: 4:52am On Oct 16, 2015 |
Annunaki: True |
Re: Why Mohamed Cannot Possibly Be A Prophet Of The True God. by tonie123: 5:07am On Oct 16, 2015 |
@lekankolade ... I am still waiting for ur answers to my question, don't be shy to answer your pix isn't here... @tartar9.... calm down, it's no a fighting or insulting matter, as for me I am here to learn, you said "Prophets don't sin in Islam,even if there is any hadith that shows otherwise it simply renders such hadith void" I would love to read that new hadith in the Quran or where it was written...thanks But on a second thought, you claim he didn't sin, but sumwhere in the Quran he prayed to Allah for forgivness of sins.... “O Allah! Forgive me my sins that I did in the past or will do in the future, and also the sins I did in secret or in public.” (Sahih Bukhari, Hadith 5919)" How about that oga sir? 2 Likes |
Re: Why Mohamed Cannot Possibly Be A Prophet Of The True God. by lekankolade(m): 2:41pm On Oct 16, 2015 |
tonie123: pls if I may ask, did any Muslim ever hold u from going to church? , did u even read your bible reach where he said "judge not so that you shall not be judged? ", I'm very sure dis your argument is not about how much you love Jesus but because of the hatred for another religion.......if everybody thinks d way u reason, d world would have been a hell.....me I don't fight for God, he fights for me |
Re: Why Mohamed Cannot Possibly Be A Prophet Of The True God. by tonie123: 4:58pm On Oct 16, 2015 |
lekankolade: Whao our discussion have moved for "muhammed and the Quran" to "me and forgivness" and some jara insult.. Sir are you trying to say I am judging muhammed by the Questions I asked in my previous post? Oga sir, we are not quarreling neither are we fighting. I don't hate other religious,I can't because they are my brother and my sister.. i am from auchi in edo state, some of my family members are muslims some other are Christians and some other are "traditional worshippers"...our bond is by blood far stronger than religion, right? on a bigger pix that includes you too... you are my brother,we are Africa's, we are blacks,we have common history and root. I can't kill them because they are not practising my religion.. ..but my muslim brother is ready to slice my throat for not following his religion, as commanded my the Quran.... why? And you ask if any muslim, have ever stopped me from going to church... figuratively I say YES!!! If a jihadist bombs my church and slaughter my pastors.... oh yes!!! has stopped me fro going to church... look at the north it happens every sunday!!! And lastly I am not fighting for God..... I am just asking questions, because I want to know.... answer them pls if you can. 3 Likes |
Re: Why Mohamed Cannot Possibly Be A Prophet Of The True God. by lekankolade(m): 5:32pm On Oct 16, 2015 |
tonie123:If u said YES, the religion is not to blame neither the Prophet because have not see any verse in d Quran that support killing of innocent lives A. From the Qur'an 1. "…We decreed upon the Children of Israel that whoever kills a soul - unless for a soul[1] or for corruption [done] in the land[2] - it is as if he had slain mankind entirely. And, whoever saves one, it is as if he had saved mankind entirely." [Qur'an, 5:32] This verse establishes the sanctity of life. 2. "…And do not kill the soul[3] which Allah has forbidden except by right…" [Qur'an, 6:151] 3. "And do not kill the soul which Allah has forbidden except by right. And whoever is killed unjustly, We have given his heir authority[4] but let him not exceed limits in [the matter of] taking life. Indeed, he has been supported [by the law]. " [Qur'an, 17:33]. 4. "And [the believers are] those who do not invoke any deity with Allah, nor kill the soul which Allah has forbidden except by right, nor commit zina[5]." [Qur'an, 25:68] This verse conveys the heinousness of unjustifiably taking a human life, and indicates that wrongful murder is close in enormity to shirk[6] and zina. 5. "And fight, in the path of Allah, those who fight you…" [Qur'an, 2:190] This verse indicates that only those involved in combat are to be fought, which excludes non-combatants such as women, children and civilians; a regulation detailed further by narrations from the Sunnah, as mentioned in the following section. 6. "Among mankind is he whose speech impresses you in worldly life, and he calls Allah to witness as to what is in his heart, yet he is the fiercest of opponents. And, when he goes away, he strives throughout the land to cause corruption therein, and to destroy crops[7] and lives[8]. And Allah does not love corruption." [Qur'an, 2:204-5] These verses indicate that wanton destruction and indiscriminate killing are tantamount to working mischief /corruption upon earth B. From the Sunnah Warning Against Causing Suffering Even To Animals 1. "A woman entered the Fire on account of a cat, which she tied up, neither feeding it, nor letting it eat [for itself] from the vermin of the earth, until it died, and as a result she entered the Fire [of Hell]."[9] 2. "Do not take something with a soul as a target."[10] Another version says, "Ibn `Umar passed by some youths of Quraysh who had set up a bird and were shooting at it, giving any arrows which missed to the owner of the bird. Thereupon, Ibn `Umar said, "Allah curses the one who does this. Verily, the Messenger of Allah cursed the one who takes something with a soul as a target."[11] Another version says, "The Messenger of Allah forbade taking something with a soul as a target."[12] Another version says, "Allah curses the one who takes something with a soul as a target."[13] Warning Against Wrongfully Taking Life. 3. "A Muslim remains in latitude concerning his religion as long as he does not take a life."[14] 4. "Avoid the seven ruinous [sins] … associating partners with Allah, sorcery, unrightfully taking life which Allah has prohibited, consuming riba, consuming the property of an orphan, fleeing on the day of marching [in battle], and accusing a chaste, oblivious believing woman of adultery."[15] Specific Narrations Regulating Killing During War 5. Ribah ibn al-Rabi` al-Tamimi says, "We were with the Messenger of Allah in a battle. He saw people gathered, and then he saw a slain woman, whereupon he said, "This [woman] was not fighting!""[16] Another version adds, "Thereupon, the Prophet objected to the killing of women and children."[17] Another adds, "Catch up with Khalid and tell him: The Messenger of Allah commands you not to kill [women and] children, nor hired workers."[18] 6. Ibn `Abbas says: The Messenger of Allah, when dispatching his troops, would tell them, "….Do not behave treacherously, nor misappropriate war-booty, nor mutilate [those whom you kill], nor kill children, nor the people in cloisters."[19] Another version contains, "…Do not kill a decrepit old man, nor a child, nor a youngster, nor a woman…"[20] Another contains, "…Do not kill a woman, nor a child, nor an old, aged man…"[21] Another contains, "Do not kill a child, nor a woman, nor an old man, nor obliterate a stream, nor cut a tree…"[22] 1 Like |
Re: Why Mohamed Cannot Possibly Be A Prophet Of The True God. by lekankolade(m): 5:51pm On Oct 16, 2015 |
tonie123:there are three ways to source the answer to the question u pose; 1) from the mouth of those who know nothing about the true ISLAM(submission); but try so hard to discredit it even before making thorough investigations regarding the true ISLAM(submission). these group usually are very prejudice, and therefore will try by all means to malign that which they know nothing of. They are hell-bent on this ploy of theirs. 2) from the mouth of those who "claim" to be following the quran, while in reality they are not. these group are the most ardent opposers of the truth that is glaringly clear in the Quran. how do u know these peopel? well, walk up to any "muslim", ask him/her to give u the profession of faith(shahaadah) in ISLAM. they will do so, but not without putting Muhammad's name next to GOD's. while the Qruan gives the profession of faith in(3:18). You find only GOD's name mentioned there, with no human entity added to it. Also, ask them to tell you how they do their ablution, if it is anything different than what u find it the Quran(5:6), then these are the people i am talking about.Very easy!!! 3) from the mouth of those who without doubt, completely acknowledge that whatever is in the Quran is from the Creator of the heavens and the earth, therefore, have no choice in following it's commandments.if u want to know such people, then visit: www.submission.org or www.majidtucson.org or www.miralceof19.org The answer: Only a single verse of the Quran is sufficient to prove to any non-prejudice person that the Quran never endorsed the killing of any soul unjustly. In fact, it even preaches resorting to pardon whenever applicable, regardless of the severity of crime commited even by a criminal. The QUranic truth: The Major Commandments [6:151] Say, "Come let me tell you what your Lord has really prohibited for you: You shall not set up idols besides Him. You shall honor your parents. You shall not kill your children from fear of poverty - we provide for you and for them. You shall not commit gross sins, obvious or hidden. You shall not kill - GOD has made life sacred - except in the course of justice. These are His commandments to you, that you may understand." As can be seen from the verse above the plain Quranic truth regarding Killing any soul unjustly. However, even with this, there are those who qoute verses of the Quran, and say that these verses incites Killing and hatred. Is this possible? Since the vers above(6:151) is so clear; it is then safe to make two assumption on why these people(group 1 above) still claim that Quran preaches killing. 1) It's either they do not study the Quran carefully to understand it, as a consequence they make false assertions that are non existent, or 2) they deliberately wish to cover the truth, by simply mis-quoting the Quran out of context and deceive the unwary observer. which ever the case is, you be the judge. The verse above(6:151) should set precedence to your making your conclusion. I will even augment it with a couple more verses, u then make your conclusion as u wish. I have no doubt in my mind that u will surely come to know, that these are lies and have nothing to do with the Quran. A few more proofs: Grossness of Murder [17:33] You shall not kill any person - for GOD has made life sacred - except in the course of justice. If one is killed unjustly, then we give his heir authority to enforce justice. Thus, he shall not exceed the limits in avenging the murder; he will be helped. [5:32] -, anyone who murders any person who had not committed murder or horrendous crimes, it shall be as if he murdered all the people. And anyone who spares a life, it shall be as if he spared the lives of all the people, - And there are more where that came from. It's left for u to be the judge. I challenge anybody,to prove contrary to the above Quranic truth, using the Quran alone and not the Criminal ISLAMIC sources(Hadiths, Qruanic exegesis by corrupt Mullas etc). Tonie123 and d likes of u: this challenge is directed towards u mostly. I want u to show me from the Quran, verse by verse analysis(not copy paste) where it ever preached hatred towards christians, jews or even justifies the killing of any soul unjustly. I will then show u that u never truly read the Quran yourself. Before u accept such a challenge, i want u to firsly visit the websites i mentiond above. They may help u in proving me wrong. "Always be prepared to give an answer to everyone who asks you to give the reason for the hope that you have. But do this with gentleness and respect." Bible, 1 Peter 3:15 |
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