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Re: US Armed Forces Nasty Surprise For The Russian Navy by gists: 4:41pm On Oct 13, 2015 |
Rex123:Very true!! On your first point: There is no reason why Alaska should be part of US. But Alaska is one of the 50 states that make up the US even though it is physically separated from the continental USA by 1000s of km. Has anybody asked why? On your second point: There was this rumor that the crash in oil price is due to US producing her oil reserve. If it is true, is it a coincident that US started oil production at a time she need to sanction Russia? In addition, US has Saudi and ALL the major oil gulf countries as allies (now Iran may be joining the party too). That means US can turn Russia's major income generator to "pure water". The war may already have been won before the first cannon is fired! But still, I don't really like US that much because she spread wars and by extension poverty, hunger, diseases etc to "non-conforming" countries while spreading wealth to those that are in her good books - effectively, US is playing god But that does not remove the fact that she is the most powerful country in the world by a wide margin
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Re: US Armed Forces Nasty Surprise For The Russian Navy by bonechamberlain(m): 5:34pm On Oct 13, 2015 |
Rex123:NATO!!! NATO can't do nothing without u.s the are toothless bulldogs. the creation of NATO in the first place was to counter the threat of the Soviet Union, which also had its defence partners in the Warsaw pact. the dissolution of the Soviet Union ended the Warsaw pact, but the entire Europe were still scared of Russia so NATO has to stay. without the u.s I don't know if NATO can survive two days in a war with Russia and also without NATO I don't think the u.s can survive any long war with Russia. u talk of economic war, the question now is, is it working? despite the sanctions and threat to sanctions Russia is still standing firm. the u.s should stop forcing European countries to follow suit in sanctioning Russia, as most of them are unwilling to join the sanctions team. Russia is not a threat to anybody especially in Europe, but a threat to u.s hegemony. but the u.s spread lies and propaganda to Europeans of how Russia is a threat to them. if the u s believes Russia is a threat to them let them face Russia squarely and not coercing other nations to fight their economic or military battle for them especially in Europe . 5 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: US Armed Forces Nasty Surprise For The Russian Navy by abouzaid: 5:40pm On Oct 13, 2015 |
gists:and with all that American power yet hunger, homelessness and misery continue to rise to unprecedented level in that country. like someone said above, Putin would win a presidential election over Obama on American soil going by their acceptance ratings right now. 2 Likes |
Re: US Armed Forces Nasty Surprise For The Russian Navy by abouzaid: 5:44pm On Oct 13, 2015 |
omoelesa:only an ignorant Nigerian would do that or perhaps the child of a corrupt Nigerian politician. it makes far more sense for a Nigerian to study and work in Russia or Germany than to do so in America. even Americans are trooping out of their country now to study and work. 2 Likes |
Re: US Armed Forces Nasty Surprise For The Russian Navy by RandomVic(m): 6:10pm On Oct 13, 2015 |
The same US military that was battered, beaten, bruised and embarrassed by Vietnam. US left that country with their tails between their legs. Remembered how US fighting alongside its NATO allies lost half of Korea Peninsula to the North right after Russia joined the fray supporting the North. By the time China joined the war to back Russia and the North, USA and it's weak NATO allies were on course to losing the war altogether. They had to quickly and shamelessly call for a ceasefire with the north sensing that they ain't gonna win this one. The US have never won a major war in a very very long time, think Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan, Somalia, Korean War. They came into the 1st and 2nd world wars very late when other nations had suffered losses on the battle field. Should they go to war with Russia, be rest assured, it will be the end of their 300+ years civilization. Period 5 Likes 1 Share |
Re: US Armed Forces Nasty Surprise For The Russian Navy by Rex123(m): 11:03am On Oct 14, 2015 |
gists: People refuse to understand that the economic and financial system of the world is controlled by the US! That alone she can out muzzle any county. Yes she is powerful, she has a lot of enemies, her approach to things reeks of hypocrisy. The truth is that you can't win an economic war with her! I really want Nigeria to take the same approach America has taken over the years! That one of the ways we can secure our place in the international system! A powerful economy, a powerful military, charismatic leaders! How size and population already makes other states uncomfortable, that why they want a divided Nigeria. Our leaders aren't helping matters too! Nigerians should have the best of life! They deserve it! 1 Like |
Re: US Armed Forces Nasty Surprise For The Russian Navy by Rex123(m): 11:15am On Oct 14, 2015 |
bonechamberlain: All you written up there is retarded! Do you know the counties that make up NATO? Do you know how powerful militarily they are? I am removing US from NATO. The rest states do you know how many men they can mobilise? Their weaponry? Abeg when you arguing argue with facts! NATO isn't weak, they just been cautious! Russia can't face that alliance alone unless she has a defencive pact with other states! May I remind you that during the second world war Germany almost defeated Russia. You might say they didn't ! There were just three reasons why Germany didn't totally conquer Russia 1) Hitler divided his troops they were fighting on two fronts. If Hitler had conquered the west before heading to the east, Russia won't have survived it, 2) The bitter weather condition in Russia 3) America's ammunition! Stalin told the allies he needed ammunitions and weapon! If he got that he would push out Germany at any cost no matter the human life involved! |
Re: US Armed Forces Nasty Surprise For The Russian Navy by sweetgala(m): 11:24am On Oct 14, 2015 |
OP you must have picked up that video from YouTube without knowledge of current defence installations on warships and armed destroyers. Like the Americans the Russians have the Ak630 CIWS and khastan CIWS systems similar in performance to the phalanx and even better the Russians are substantially more advanced and knowledgeable in radar technology and have been proven to nulify all current western stealth planes , I can assure you that misile would not make it past several thousand kilometres of those ships. The only way I can think of to sink a warship is to send several uboats and torpedo the shit out of it. Or suicide missions, you would need to send at least 20 of those missiles toward one target with a possible hit of 2 . Please go learn about military tactics and manoeuvres and come back then 3 Likes |
Re: US Armed Forces Nasty Surprise For The Russian Navy by sweetgala(m): 11:26am On Oct 14, 2015 |
Rex123: You know very little my good lad, china is the current powerhouse, and US are doing all they can to sink that economy 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: US Armed Forces Nasty Surprise For The Russian Navy by fineguy11(m): 11:42am On Oct 14, 2015 |
bonechamberlain:YOUR ANALYSIS CANT BE MORE OBJECTIVE AND DIRECT !! Russia's foreign policy is centered around securing its security/economic interest...syria is russia's only access to the Mediterranean.(security interest)...as for the economic interest in syria,the 10billion dollar IRAN-IRAQ-SYRIA gas pipeline is a project that would cement its main ally IRAN,as the future economic power house of the middle east,,an idea that the US and its gulf allies detest......the US is pissed with Europe's dependence on russian gas,the simple solution would be the proposed SAUDI/UAE-iraq-syria-turkey pipeline which AL ASAD refused to approve instead he signed a deal with iran,that's why the gulf state /are against al asad and have been fueling the jihadist in syria with money and weapons to oust him.if they succed in busting ASAD,it wld mean an end to russia's access to the European gas market.,coz the saudi/UAE gas pipeline wld be channeled tru iraq -syria -turkey(nato member) to europe......... 1 Like |
Re: US Armed Forces Nasty Surprise For The Russian Navy by bonechamberlain(m): 12:36pm On Oct 14, 2015 |
fineguy11:exactly Russia that gas pipelines is a major reason why the west wants Assad out, and Russia knows that. instead of Russia to give up on assad, the whole middle East and Europe would crumble. 1 Like |
Re: US Armed Forces Nasty Surprise For The Russian Navy by bonechamberlain(m): 12:39pm On Oct 14, 2015 |
Rex123:argue with facts!!! where are ur facts. what weaponry in NATO are u talking about, just like I said before, without NATO u.s can't attack Russia and without u.s NATO can't do shit. they both need each other before contemplating any war on Russia . do u know that during ww2 Hitler had an agreement with Stalin that Germany wouldn't attack Russia if they were neutral, which Hitler broke. Russia/Soviet Union weren't prepared for the war or any German invasion. but because of their will, they still pushed out the Germans and defeated them. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: US Armed Forces Nasty Surprise For The Russian Navy by Intrepid01(m): 12:53pm On Oct 14, 2015 |
bonechamberlain: Guy I wish I could buy you lunch for this ur comment. Most people don't really know what is going on in the world. They don't know the REAL TERRORIST..... 1 Like |
Re: US Armed Forces Nasty Surprise For The Russian Navy by Rex123(m): 1:15pm On Oct 14, 2015 |
sweetgala: My good sir! Do show me the current stats for the second and third quarter of this year! Let's us compare and discuss! China economy is recessing! That why the government is trying to save the economy! And I was talking about financial system not how powerful a country economy is! |
Re: US Armed Forces Nasty Surprise For The Russian Navy by bonechamberlain(m): 2:12pm On Oct 14, 2015 |
Intrepid01:thank u sir.. truly most people don't know what is going on beyond their environment. some people watch too much movies and they believe that's how the international system works. 1 Like |
Re: US Armed Forces Nasty Surprise For The Russian Navy by gists: 2:35pm On Oct 14, 2015 |
abouzaid:And you don't know that for every homeless person in US, there are probably 5 in Russia. And by the way, this is not a the stand-alone comparison of the economic strength of both countries, I am talking about the influence the US has over the majority of the countries in each continent. I just don't get when people just use sentiment to make decisions in this country. I am not the biggest fan of Obama/US but give it to them - they are the best! The only reason why Russia still has influence in Europe is the fact that she supplies them Gas. Trust me, most European nations don't like that idea and they will jump at the next available alternative - which will most likely be brokered and probably part-financed by US. Can Russia do this to US? - NO!! Rex123:Unfortunately, Nigeria has leaders that only cares about money in their bank account. They are not interested in real power among nations. Its such a shame especially when you look at he population size. We have the potential but lack the will/drive. |
Re: US Armed Forces Nasty Surprise For The Russian Navy by Intrepid01(m): 2:40pm On Oct 14, 2015 |
bonechamberlain: U are right sir, Most people see US as the saint of this world. They are so quick to associate with them and think Russia is the bad guy. But the truth is, US and Russia and other wishful super powers are all out for the same thing, PERSONAL INTEREST. I told someone that Russia would rather kill everybody in Ukraine rather than allow US to take over that Country. US is really closing in on Russia and they need to act fast. It's a cold war actually and all parties involved are very much aware. It is never about Ukraine, Syria or Libya. It is about the perceived enemy. 1 Like |
Re: US Armed Forces Nasty Surprise For The Russian Navy by Nobody: 2:57pm On Oct 14, 2015 |
CSTR2: As u can see, Lord Putin does not care. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: US Armed Forces Nasty Surprise For The Russian Navy by bonechamberlain(m): 5:19pm On Oct 14, 2015 |
Intrepid01:exactly on point, the way Russia is responding to the Ukraine and Syria crisis is the same way the u.s would respond to Cuba and other southern American countries if Russia comes too close. |
Re: US Armed Forces Nasty Surprise For The Russian Navy by abouzaid: 6:46pm On Oct 14, 2015 |
gists:don't compare apples to oranges, Russian homelessness is improving under Putin while American homelessness is getting worse under Obama at a high rate besides that's not my point, all I'm saying is that America just like Nigeria is having increasingly poor people at a time the wealthy is getting wealthier whereas the masses in Russia and China getting better but CNN and other western propaganda machines won't hardly tell you this. the simple truth is that most Americans are condemned to live in a rat race by the country's small elite population and their foot soldiers. |
Re: US Armed Forces Nasty Surprise For The Russian Navy by owenseddies: 12:15pm On Oct 18, 2017 |
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