Re: Contradictions Analyzed:bible And Quran. by Scholar8200(m): 12:01pm On Jun 30, 2015 |
Confirmer:
May God forgive you for insinuating that Sarah, and by extension Prophet Abraham, lost patience. Why would they lose patience if they were sure of God's promise since God never fails? It was simply because they have not received the revelation from God about the birth of Isaac. It was after the test that they were promised Isaac. Kindly answer this: Genesis 15:4 spoken before the birth of both men referred to who? 4 And, behold, the word of the Lord came unto him, saying, This shall not be thine heir; but he that shall come forth out of thine own bowels shall be thine heirContext:Genesis 15:2,3 2 And Abram said, Lord God, what wilt thou give me, seeing I go childless, and the steward of my house is this Eliezer of Damascus? 3 And Abram said, Behold, to me thou hast given no seed: and, lo, one born in my house is mine heir. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Contradictions Analyzed:bible And Quran. by Crispels(m): 12:12pm On Jun 30, 2015 |
dboss444: .
I am a christian but the a student of history.
am also a student of History bro!! History changed my view about religion. |
Re: Contradictions Analyzed:bible And Quran. by Crispels(m): 12:12pm On Jun 30, 2015 |
dboss444: .
I am a christian but the a student of history.
am also a student of History bro!! History changed my view about religion. |
Re: Contradictions Analyzed:bible And Quran. by bashbabe2: 12:45pm On Jul 01, 2015 |
klbakare:
actually the quran is a conjured, revised and edited version of the bible by mohammed. sadly mohammed did not cover his trail intelligently. you muslims are a confused bunch. your quran mixes people in the old testament with people in the new testament...go study about the family of jesus from your quran and compare it with what is in the bible. you guys are observers of time and bunch of enchanters. you can only pray to your true God from a particular direction, your fast is only during the day and not at night, you observe the shadows, the moon and the sun to determine your prayer hours, your allah only understands Arabic, how sad and pathetic! your religion seeks to dominate all others, no tolerance and no freewill even as God as given it to us from the beginning of time. actually i did not want to comment on this thread but this statement of yours made me. come to ilorin or ogbomoso, your alfas and jobless enchantment priest cannot do a single sermon without provoking Christians. from holding crusades to speak blasphemy against Christianity, reading the bible scornfully and treating Christians with contempt. sometimes i ask myself if you guys got something else to preach apart from Jesus and Christianity but it dawned on me that the bible has said that every one must hear about Jesus, every one must hear about the gospel so that on the day of judgement, there will be no excuse. God has certainly being making use of your alfas, ustah and fanatics who will not tolerate others to spread his word. then i said to myself let God be praised! therefore these guys here on social media have not done 0.1% of what your leaders do in reality. don't complain,the social network here is the only means they got to say all these things concerning islam(you guys also say worse about Christianity in real life) without being beating to death or lynched by your wicked,inhumane and heartless brothers
mohammed is a confused,violent,possessed paedophile! DEAL WITH IT! . I don't have to worry about all you have written. The Prophets (SAW) integrity is very intact as the best of mankind to GOD. I don't have to fight for him.people have said and done worst,is this your best or you have more to say. Like I said above you are pained and it shows the darkness in your heart. From the way some christians open Islamic thread on nairaland i wonder who are more obsessed. The more hatred you spew,the more people are accepting Islam in thousands.peace 1 Like |
Re: Contradictions Analyzed:bible And Quran. by malvisguy212: 6:54am On Jul 02, 2015 |
malvisguy212: THE QURAN GIVES AUTHORITY OF THE BIBLE: The Qur’an, itself, the highest authority for all Muslims, gives authority to the Bible, assuming its authenticity at least up to the seventh-ninth Centuries. Consider the following Suras:
Surah 2:136 points out that there is no difference between the scriptures which preceded and those of the Qur’an, saying, “ …the revelation given to us…and Jesus…we make no difference between one and another of them .”
Surah 3:2-3 continues, “Allah…He sent down the Law (of Moses) and the Gospel (of Jesus)…as a guide to mankind .” Sura h 4:136 carries this farther by admonishing the Muslims to, “ …Believe… and the scripture which He sent before him .” In Surah 5:47,49,50,52 we find a direct call to Christians to believe in their scriptures: “ …We sent Jesus, the son of Mary, confirming the Law that had come before him. We sent him the Gospel… Let the people of the Gospel judge by what Allah hath revealed therein, if any do fail to judge by the light of what Allah hath revealed, they are (no better than) those who rebel…”
Again, in Surah 5:68 we find a similar call: “People of the Book!…Stand fast by the law, the Gospel, and all revelation that hath come to you from YOUR LORD. It is the revelation that has come to thee from THY LORD.” To embolden this idea of the New and Old Testament’s authority we find in Surah 10:94 that Muslims are advised to confer with these scriptures if in doubt about their own, saying: “If thou wert in doubt as to what We have revealed unto thee, then ask those who have been reading the Book from before thee. The truth had indeed come to thee from thy Lord .” And as if to emphasize this point the advice is repeated in Surah 21:7, stating; “ …the apostles We sent were but men, to whom We granted inspiration. If ye realize this not, Ask of those who possess the message .”
Finally, in Surah 29:46 Muslims are asked not to question the authority of the scriptures of the Christians, saying;
“And dispute ye not with the people of the book but say: We believe in the revelation which has come down to us and that which came down to you.”
If there is anything in these Suras which is clear,it is that the Quran emphatically endorses the Torah and the Gospel as authentic and authoritative revelations from God. This coincides with what Christians believe, as well. In fact, nowhere is there any warning in the Qur’an that the former scriptures had been corrupted, nor that they were contradictory. If the Qur’an was indeed the final and complete revelation, if it was the seal of all former revelations the Muslims claim, than certainly the author of the Qur’an would have included a warning against that which had been corrupted in the earlier scriptures. But nowhere do we find even a hint that the Bible was contradictory, or indeed that it was corrupted.
WHY WILL A FINAL REVELATION NOT GIVE WARNING OF THE CORRUPTION OF THE FORMER REVELATION? No muslim is able to defend the quran? |
Re: Contradictions Analyzed:bible And Quran. by plainbibletruth: 12:27pm On Jul 03, 2015 |
malvisguy212: No muslim is able to defend the quran? They need to 'consult' with one another and their higher authorities before they can put on any defence. |
Re: Contradictions Analyzed:bible And Quran. by malvisguy212: 3:55pm On Jul 03, 2015 |
plainbibletruth:
They need to 'consult' with one another and their higher authorities before they can put on any defence. if they cannot answer it, then LET THE TRUTH BE SEALED IN THEIR HEART. |
Re: Contradictions Analyzed:bible And Quran. by malvisguy212: 10:54pm On Jul 15, 2015 |
malvisguy212: Muslims talk often about the many contradictions in the Bible. The number of contradictions vary depending on whom you are talking to. The principle of non-contradiction has been elevated to the status of an absolute criterion, capable of being applied by human beings in judging the authenticity of God’s word. But the Christian cannot agree that the principle of non- contradiction is given to men as a criterion by which they are to judge God’s word. It is this criterion which the Muslims have imposed upon the discussion of revelation.
The Bible is not simply one book compiled by one man as the Muslims claim for their Qur’an, but a compilation of 66 books, written by more than 40 authors, over a period of 1500 years! For that reason Christians have always maintained that the entire Bible shows the imprint of human hands. Evidence of this can be found in the variety of human languages used, the varying styles of writing, the differences in the author’s intellects and temperaments. Thought the muslims claimed the quran is sent down from heaven but there are MANY verses show the imprint of human hand in it.
DEFINITION OF INSPIRATION. In 2 Timothy 3:16, we are told that all Scripture is inspired. The word used for inspiration is theopneustos which means“God-breathed,” implying that what was written had its origin in God Himself. In 2Peter 1:21 we read that the writers were“carried along” by God. Thus, God used each writer, including his personality to accomplish a divinely authoritative work, for God cannot inspire error.
The Bible must be the invention either of good men or angels, bad men or devils, or of God. However, it was not written by good men, because good men would not tell lies by saying ‘Thus saith the Lord;’ it was not written by bad men because they would not write about doing good duty, while condemning sin,and themselves to hell; thus, it must be written by divine inspiration”
HOW DOES GOD INSPIRE HIS WRITERS? How does God inspire the writers? Does He simply move the writers by challenging their heart to reach new heights, much like we find in the works of Shakespeare, find in the works of Shakespeare, which is human literary masterpieces? Or does that which He inspire contain the words of God-along with myths, mistakes and legends, thus creating a book in which portions of the Word of God can be found, along with those of finite and fallible men? Or are the scriptures the infallible Word of God in their entirety? In other words, how, Muslims will ask, is this inspiration carried out? Does God use mechanical dictation, similar to that which we find claimed for the Qur’an, or does He use the writers own minds and experiences?
ANSWER: The simple answer is that God’s control was always with them in their writings, such that the Bible is nothing more than “THE WORD OF GOD IN THE WORD OF MEN”. This means that God utilized the culture and conventions of his penman’s ,God controls in His sovereign providence. Thus history must be treated as history, poetry as poetry, hyperbole and metaphor as hyperbole and metaphor, generalization and approximation as what they are, and so forth.
We are fully aware that the Christian criteria for revelation is not acceptable to Muslims, as it is in seeming conflict with their own.Yet,by simply measuring the Bible against the‘sent down’ concept which they claim for their Qur’an, Muslims condemn themselves of duplicity, since they demand of the New Testament that which they do not demand of the previous revelations, the Taurat and Zabuur, though both are revered as equally inspired revelations by all Muslims. Muslims believe that Moses WROTE THE TAURAT AND DAVID THE ZABUUR . However, neither claimed to have received their revelations by a means of A' sent down’ transmission. So why insist on such for the New Testament, especially since the document makes no such claim itself?
PROPHET WITHOUT PROVED? Left unsaid is the glaring irony that the claim for the sent down revelation for the Qur’an comes from one source alone, the man to which it was supposedly revealed, Muhammad. Yet there are no external witnesses both before or at the time who can corroborate Muhammad’s testimony. Not even miracles are provided to substantiate his claims, nor are there any known documents of such a Qur’an from the century in which it is claimed to have been revealed.
What Muslims must understand is that Christians have always maintained that the Word of God, the Bible, was indeed written by men, but that these men were always under the direct inspiration of the Holy Spirit (2 Peter 1:20-21). Whereas the Qur’an is alleged to be free of any human element, God in the Bible deliberately chose to reveal His Word through individuals who were inspired prophets and apostles, so that His Word would not only b conveyed to humanity correctly, and comprehensively but would be communicated to their understanding and powers of comprehension as well. This the Qur’an CANNOT do if it has no human element, as is generally alleged.
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Re: Contradictions Analyzed:bible And Quran. by malvisguy212: 9:25am On Jul 19, 2015 |
OJODEL10: Waiting for islamic defence. still waiting for Islamic defence. Rilwayne001 and co. |
Re: Contradictions Analyzed:bible And Quran. by Bakrabas: 11:44am On Jul 23, 2015 |
My Letter To Who It May Concern.Warning:use Biblical Chapters To Answer The Following...1.Give Us 5 Biblical Verses Where The Word Christianity Is Mentioned.2.Where In The Bible Did Jesus Say Every Sunday Go To Church.3.If Truly Xtians Are Folowin Bible,giv Us D Evidenc Of Dec.25 Xmas.4.Tel Us D Mode Of Warship Acordin 2 Jesus.5.What Chapter Of D Bible Did Jesus Mention D Word Bible.6.If Jesus Is God Who Took Over D Earth For Three Day Of His Resucitation.7.Acording 2 D Bible,whosoever Died On The Cross Is An Accursed One.What Abt Jesus? 8.Acordin 2 Queen James Version Of The Bible "for God so love the world and She give us..." if truly the bible is the book of God it should be error free witot stylishly saying God is imperfect and producing new bible like,king james,queen james,gay bible,kjv,rsv,nav,niv...d 50 highest in d christendom v said it dat dere are over 50,000 errors in d bible.wat a bombshel! 1 Like |
Re: Contradictions Analyzed:bible And Quran. by malvisguy212: 6:07am On Jul 27, 2015 |
malvisguy212: THE QURAN GIVES AUTHORITY OF THE BIBLE: The Qur’an, itself, the highest authority for all Muslims, gives authority to the Bible, assuming its authenticity at least up to the seventh-ninth Centuries. Consider the following Suras:
Surah 2:136 points out that there is no difference between the scriptures which preceded and those of the Qur’an, saying, “ …the revelation given to us…and Jesus…we make no difference between one and another of them .”
Surah 3:2-3 continues, “Allah…He sent down the Law (of Moses) and the Gospel (of Jesus)…as a guide to mankind .” Sura h 4:136 carries this farther by admonishing the Muslims to, “ …Believe… and the scripture which He sent before him .” In Surah 5:47,49,50,52 we find a direct call to Christians to believe in their scriptures: “ …We sent Jesus, the son of Mary, confirming the Law that had come before him. We sent him the Gospel… Let the people of the Gospel judge by what Allah hath revealed therein, if any do fail to judge by the light of what Allah hath revealed, they are (no better than) those who rebel…”
Again, in Surah 5:68 we find a similar call: “People of the Book!…Stand fast by the law, the Gospel, and all revelation that hath come to you from YOUR LORD. It is the revelation that has come to thee from THY LORD.” To embolden this idea of the New and Old Testament’s authority we find in Surah 10:94 that Muslims are advised to confer with these scriptures if in doubt about their own, saying: “If thou wert in doubt as to what We have revealed unto thee, then ask those who have been reading the Book from before thee. The truth had indeed come to thee from thy Lord .” And as if to emphasize this point the advice is repeated in Surah 21:7, stating; “ …the apostles We sent were but men, to whom We granted inspiration. If ye realize this not, Ask of those who possess the message .”
Finally, in Surah 29:46 Muslims are asked not to question the authority of the scriptures of the Christians, saying;
“And dispute ye not with the people of the book but say: We believe in the revelation which has come down to us and that which came down to you.”
If there is anything in these Suras which is clear,it is that the Quran emphatically endorses the Torah and the Gospel as authentic and authoritative revelations from God. This coincides with what Christians believe, as well. In fact, nowhere is there any warning in the Qur’an that the former scriptures had been corrupted, nor that they were contradictory. If the Qur’an was indeed the final and complete revelation, if it was the seal of all former revelations the Muslims claim, than certainly the author of the Qur’an would have included a warning against that which had been corrupted in the earlier scriptures. But nowhere do we find even a hint that the Bible was contradictory, or indeed that it was corrupted.
WHY WILL A FINAL REVELATION NOT GIVE WARNING OF THE CORRUPTION OF THE FORMER REVELATION? ummsulaym read the above^^^ and provide your defence for the quran. |
Re: Contradictions Analyzed:bible And Quran. by malvisguy212: 10:28am On Aug 11, 2015 |
malvisguy212: THE QURAN GIVES AUTHORITY OF THE BIBLE: The Qur’an, itself, the highest authority for all Muslims, gives authority to the Bible, assuming its authenticity at least up to the seventh-ninth Centuries. Consider the following Suras:
Surah 2:136 points out that there is no difference between the scriptures which preceded and those of the Qur’an, saying, “ …the revelation given to us…and Jesus…we make no difference between one and another of them .”
Surah 3:2-3 continues, “Allah…He sent down the Law (of Moses) and the Gospel (of Jesus)…as a guide to mankind .” Sura h 4:136 carries this farther by admonishing the Muslims to, “ …Believe… and the scripture which He sent before him .” In Surah 5:47,49,50,52 we find a direct call to Christians to believe in their scriptures: “ …We sent Jesus, the son of Mary, confirming the Law that had come before him. We sent him the Gospel… Let the people of the Gospel judge by what Allah hath revealed therein, if any do fail to judge by the light of what Allah hath revealed, they are (no better than) those who rebel…”
Again, in Surah 5:68 we find a similar call: “People of the Book!…Stand fast by the law, the Gospel, and all revelation that hath come to you from YOUR LORD. It is the revelation that has come to thee from THY LORD.” To embolden this idea of the New and Old Testament’s authority we find in Surah 10:94 that Muslims are advised to confer with these scriptures if in doubt about their own, saying: “If thou wert in doubt as to what We have revealed unto thee, then ask those who have been reading the Book from before thee. The truth had indeed come to thee from thy Lord .” And as if to emphasize this point the advice is repeated in Surah 21:7, stating; “ …the apostles We sent were but men, to whom We granted inspiration. If ye realize this not, Ask of those who possess the message .”
Finally, in Surah 29:46 Muslims are asked not to question the authority of the scriptures of the Christians, saying;
“And dispute ye not with the people of the book but say: We believe in the revelation which has come down to us and that which came down to you.”
If there is anything in these Suras which is clear,it is that the Quran emphatically endorses the Torah and the Gospel as authentic and authoritative revelations from God. This coincides with what Christians believe, as well. In fact, nowhere is there any warning in the Qur’an that the former scriptures had been corrupted, nor that they were contradictory. If the Qur’an was indeed the final and complete revelation, if it was the seal of all former revelations the Muslims claim, than certainly the author of the Qur’an would have included a warning against that which had been corrupted in the earlier scriptures. But nowhere do we find even a hint that the Bible was contradictory, or indeed that it was corrupted.
WHY WILL A FINAL REVELATION NOT GIVE WARNING OF THE CORRUPTION OF THE FORMER REVELATION? |
Re: Contradictions Analyzed:bible And Quran. by malvisguy212: 7:50am On Aug 16, 2015 |
malvisguy212: good, if you have nothing to say, just stay mute.we prefer you like that. |
Re: Contradictions Analyzed:bible And Quran. by malvisguy212: 9:37pm On Aug 22, 2015 |
malvisguy212: Muslims talk often about the many contradictions in the Bible. The number of contradictions vary depending on whom you are talking to. The principle of non-contradiction has been elevated to the status of an absolute criterion, capable of being applied by human beings in judging the authenticity of God’s word. But the Christian cannot agree that the principle of non- contradiction is given to men as a criterion by which they are to judge God’s word. It is this criterion which the Muslims have imposed upon the discussion of revelation.
The Bible is not simply one book compiled by one man as the Muslims claim for their Qur’an, but a compilation of 66 books, written by more than 40 authors, over a period of 1500 years! For that reason Christians have always maintained that the entire Bible shows the imprint of human hands. Evidence of this can be found in the variety of human languages used, the varying styles of writing, the differences in the author’s intellects and temperaments. Thought the muslims claimed the quran is sent down from heaven but there are MANY verses show the imprint of human hand in it.
DEFINITION OF INSPIRATION. In 2 Timothy 3:16, we are told that all Scripture is inspired. The word used for inspiration is theopneustos which means“God-breathed,” implying that what was written had its origin in God Himself. In 2Peter 1:21 we read that the writers were“carried along” by God. Thus, God used each writer, including his personality to accomplish a divinely authoritative work, for God cannot inspire error.
The Bible must be the invention either of good men or angels, bad men or devils, or of God. However, it was not written by good men, because good men would not tell lies by saying ‘Thus saith the Lord;’ it was not written by bad men because they would not write about doing good duty, while condemning sin,and themselves to hell; thus, it must be written by divine inspiration”
HOW DOES GOD INSPIRE HIS WRITERS? How does God inspire the writers? Does He simply move the writers by challenging their heart to reach new heights, much like we find in the works of Shakespeare, find in the works of Shakespeare, which is human literary masterpieces? Or does that which He inspire contain the words of God-along with myths, mistakes and legends, thus creating a book in which portions of the Word of God can be found, along with those of finite and fallible men? Or are the scriptures the infallible Word of God in their entirety? In other words, how, Muslims will ask, is this inspiration carried out? Does God use mechanical dictation, similar to that which we find claimed for the Qur’an, or does He use the writers own minds and experiences?
ANSWER: The simple answer is that God’s control was always with them in their writings, such that the Bible is nothing more than “THE WORD OF GOD IN THE WORD OF MEN”. This means that God utilized the culture and conventions of his penman’s ,God controls in His sovereign providence. Thus history must be treated as history, poetry as poetry, hyperbole and metaphor as hyperbole and metaphor, generalization and approximation as what they are, and so forth.
We are fully aware that the Christian criteria for revelation is not acceptable to Muslims, as it is in seeming conflict with their own.Yet,by simply measuring the Bible against the‘sent down’ concept which they claim for their Qur’an, Muslims condemn themselves of duplicity, since they demand of the New Testament that which they do not demand of the previous revelations, the Taurat and Zabuur, though both are revered as equally inspired revelations by all Muslims. Muslims believe that Moses WROTE THE TAURAT AND DAVID THE ZABUUR . However, neither claimed to have received their revelations by a means of A' sent down’ transmission. So why insist on such for the New Testament, especially since the document makes no such claim itself?
PROPHET WITHOUT PROVED? Left unsaid is the glaring irony that the claim for the sent down revelation for the Qur’an comes from one source alone, the man to which it was supposedly revealed, Muhammad. Yet there are no external witnesses both before or at the time who can corroborate Muhammad’s testimony. Not even miracles are provided to substantiate his claims, nor are there any known documents of such a Qur’an from the century in which it is claimed to have been revealed.
What Muslims must understand is that Christians have always maintained that the Word of God, the Bible, was indeed written by men, but that these men were always under the direct inspiration of the Holy Spirit (2 Peter 1:20-21). Whereas the Qur’an is alleged to be free of any human element, God in the Bible deliberately chose to reveal His Word through individuals who were inspired prophets and apostles, so that His Word would not only b conveyed to humanity correctly, and comprehensively but would be communicated to their understanding and powers of comprehension as well. This the Qur’an CANNOT do if it has no human element, as is generally alleged.
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Re: Contradictions Analyzed:bible And Quran. by adewalker(m): 12:45am On Aug 23, 2015 |
[quote author=malvisguy212 post=37233135][/quote]. I just can't seem to understand ur obsession about islam,I seem to be seeing u in a lot of threads about islam,bt as soon as the muslims start engaging u,u flee,its easy to be a coward on the internet,so get a hall in anywhere in nigeria,call all ur christian brothers and sisters,then invite us muslims to a debate between u and us in an open place for all to see,stop being a coward,surely if u are so sure about ur religion,this must be easy for u...quran 17vs81"and say'truth has come and falsehood has vanished,verily falsehood is ever bound to perish"....we will be waiting positively for ur reply |
Re: Contradictions Analyzed:bible And Quran. by malvisguy212: 7:12am On Aug 23, 2015 |
adewalker: . I just can't seem to understand ur obsession about islam,I seem to be seeing u in a lot of threads about islam,bt as soon as the muslims start engaging u,u flee,its easy to be a coward on the internet,so get a hall in anywhere in nigeria,call all ur christian brothers and sisters,then invite us muslims to a debate between u and us in an open place for all to see,stop being a coward,surely if u are so sure about ur religion,this must be easy for u...quran 17vs81"and say'truth has come and falsehood has vanished,verily falsehood is ever bound to perish"....we will be waiting positively for ur reply trash. If you cannot defend the quranic contradiction here, were will you want to defend it ? In public so that you will have the opportunity to strike off my head as the quran encourage you to do? |
Re: Contradictions Analyzed:bible And Quran. by adewalker(m): 7:43am On Aug 23, 2015 |
malvisguy212: trash. If you cannot defend the quranic contradiction here, were will you want to defend it ? In public so that you will have the opportunity to strike off my head as the quran encourage you to do? . Then u can take the debate to ur village,invite us we will come meet u there,u can make the debate in anywhere u feel safe if u feel ur conscience is making u feel insecure...if u are not a coward,this is very easy,anywhere in nigeria,we will come and debate u |
Re: Contradictions Analyzed:bible And Quran. by adewalker(m): 7:44am On Aug 23, 2015 |
malvisguy212: trash. If you cannot defend the quranic contradiction here, were will you want to defend it ? In public so that you will have the opportunity to strike off my head as the quran encourage you to do? . Then u can take the debate to ur village,invite us we will come meet u there,u can make the debate in anywhere u feel safe if u feel ur conscience is making u feel insecure...if u are not a coward,this is very easy,anywhere in nigeria,we will come and debate u...then we shall see which of us is erring |
Re: Contradictions Analyzed:bible And Quran. by malvisguy212: 6:24pm On Sep 23, 2015 |
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Re: Contradictions Analyzed:bible And Quran. by malvisguy212: 1:23pm On Oct 15, 2015 |
malvisguy212: THE QURAN GIVES AUTHORITY OF THE BIBLE: The Qur’an, itself, the highest authority for all Muslims, gives authority to the Bible, assuming its authenticity at least up to the seventh-ninth Centuries. Consider the following Suras:
Surah 2:136 points out that there is no difference between the scriptures which preceded and those of the Qur’an, saying, “ …the revelation given to us…and Jesus…we make no difference between one and another of them .”
Surah 3:2-3 continues, “Allah…He sent down the Law (of Moses) and the Gospel (of Jesus)…as a guide to mankind .” Sura h 4:136 carries this farther by admonishing the Muslims to, “ …Believe… and the scripture which He sent before him .” In Surah 5:47,49,50,52 we find a direct call to Christians to believe in their scriptures: “ …We sent Jesus, the son of Mary, confirming the Law that had come before him. We sent him the Gospel… Let the people of the Gospel judge by what Allah hath revealed therein, if any do fail to judge by the light of what Allah hath revealed, they are (no better than) those who rebel…”
Again, in Surah 5:68 we find a similar call: “People of the Book!…Stand fast by the law, the Gospel, and all revelation that hath come to you from YOUR LORD. It is the revelation that has come to thee from THY LORD.” To embolden this idea of the New and Old Testament’s authority we find in Surah 10:94 that Muslims are advised to confer with these scriptures if in doubt about their own, saying: “If thou wert in doubt as to what We have revealed unto thee, then ask those who have been reading the Book from before thee. The truth had indeed come to thee from thy Lord .” And as if to emphasize this point the advice is repeated in Surah 21:7, stating; “ …the apostles We sent were but men, to whom We granted inspiration. If ye realize this not, Ask of those who possess the message .”
Finally, in Surah 29:46 Muslims are asked not to question the authority of the scriptures of the Christians, saying;
“And dispute ye not with the people of the book but say: We believe in the revelation which has come down to us and that which came down to you.”
If there is anything in these Suras which is clear,it is that the Quran emphatically endorses the Torah and the Gospel as authentic and authoritative revelations from God. This coincides with what Christians believe, as well. In fact, nowhere is there any warning in the Qur’an that the former scriptures had been corrupted, nor that they were contradictory. If the Qur’an was indeed the final and complete revelation, if it was the seal of all former revelations the Muslims claim, than certainly the author of the Qur’an would have included a warning against that which had been corrupted in the earlier scriptures. But nowhere do we find even a hint that the Bible was contradictory, or indeed that it was corrupted.
WHY WILL A FINAL REVELATION NOT GIVE WARNING OF THE CORRUPTION OF THE FORMER REVELATION? |
Re: Contradictions Analyzed:bible And Quran. by Humblebloke(m): 12:11am On Oct 16, 2015 |
Malvisguy212 Why are you always attacking the mohammedians ......... You want them to dump their delusions for yours Don't you have muslim relations and friends ...... Do they go about slaugthering people in the name of their god You make it look like all muslims are evil people...... If you believe in what you believe in....... Why must they share your delusions....... Since they are at peace with theirs |
Re: Contradictions Analyzed:bible And Quran. by malvisguy212: 8:16am On Oct 16, 2015 |
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Re: Contradictions Analyzed:bible And Quran. by Visitor700: 12:03pm On Oct 16, 2015 |
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Re: Contradictions Analyzed:bible And Quran. by malvisguy212: 4:56pm On Oct 16, 2015 |
Visitor700 do you think God override His pen men freewill just to pass His message?Read the and study meaning of inspiration. Paul did not contradicte anyone, you cannot mix different verses and called it contradictions, go and study the context of each verse.
Why is muslims seems obsessed with Paul? If Paul will play an important role in twisting the word of allah, why didn't Allah give warning in the quran ? As a matter of fact, Paul exist long before the quran came into existence meaning it was the quran which twist the epistles of Paul. 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Contradictions Analyzed:bible And Quran. by Humblebloke(m): 5:24pm On Oct 16, 2015 |
malvisguy212: trash. This thread is not for atheists. Okay.... Just tell me you don't have answers Hypocrite I didn't know faithless people were not allowed to comment on your threads No matter how had you try to demean the muslim faith..... It won't change the fact that your books are similar..... Its all about angels, prophets, heaven,hell and afterlife....... I really don't why you criticize your fellow believers...... |
Re: Contradictions Analyzed:bible And Quran. by malvisguy212: 5:48pm On Oct 16, 2015 |
Humblebloke:
Okay.... Just tell me you don't have answers
Hypocrite
I didn't know faithless people were not allowed to comment on your threads
No matter how had you try to demean the muslim faith..... It won't change the fact that your books are similar.....
Its all about angels, prophets, heaven,hell and afterlife.......
I really don't why you criticize your fellow believers...... alright, we have heard you. Stay mute. |
Re: Contradictions Analyzed:bible And Quran. by Humblebloke(m): 6:55pm On Oct 16, 2015 |
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Re: Contradictions Analyzed:bible And Quran. by Humblebloke(m): 6:55pm On Oct 16, 2015 |
malvisguy212: alright, we have heard you. Stay mute. Lemme decide if I want take your advice...... I tought you could help.... With all the spiritual knowledge you have got..... Turns out you could not even provide answers to a straightforward question..... Adois amigos....... Re+ard !!! |
Re: Contradictions Analyzed:bible And Quran. by malvisguy212: 8:11pm On Oct 16, 2015 |
Humblebloke:
Lemme decide if I want take your advice......
I tought you could help.... With all the spiritual knowledge you have got.....
Turns out you could not even provide answers to a straightforward question.....
Adois amigos....... Re+ard!!! wow, you are a very very funny man, you called me a hypocrite and you want the same"hypocrite" to advice and answer your questions ? Thank you very much for your time. |
Re: Contradictions Analyzed:bible And Quran. by Nobody: 11:11pm On Oct 16, 2015 |
Malvisguy, please adress all the issues raised by @visitor700 point by point otherwise I urge you to permanently shut up! |
Re: Contradictions Analyzed:bible And Quran. by Visitor700: 6:21am On Oct 17, 2015 |
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Re: Contradictions Analyzed:bible And Quran. by Visitor700: 6:21am On Oct 17, 2015 |
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