Medicis:
The angel came to him in (Hira) and asked him to read. The Prophet replied, "I do not know how to read."
(The Prophet added), "The angel caught me (forcefully) and pressed me so hard that I could not bear it anymore. He then released me and again asked me to read, and I replied, "I do not know how to read," whereupon he caught me again and pressed me a second time till I could not bear it anymore.
He then released me and asked me again to read, but again I replied, "I do not know how to read Thereupon he caught me for the third time and pressed me and then released me and said,

"Read: In the Name of your Lord, Who has created; created man from a clot…."  Al Alaq (96.1). Now, my question... Why would Angel Jibril demand from Muhammad to read without showing him what to read in the first place? How was Muhammad supposed to read something that did not exist because no book or literature was presented to him to read from? Sincere answers pls.

midolian:



“…an angel placed a tablet by his side and said: ‘Recite’. And the Prophet on account of the fact that he was unlettered and had not learned to read and write, replied that he was unable to read. The Archangel Jibreel pressed him severely and then asked him to recite. However, he repeated the same reply. The angel again pressed him severely. This action was repeated thrice and after the third pressure he suddenly felt within himself that he could read the writing on the tablet held by the angel. He then read the following verses which are infact reckoned to be the introduction of the Book of human welfare:

“Recite in the name of your Lord who created (all things). He created man from a clot of blood! Recite, your Lord is the Most Bountiful One, Who by the pen taught man what he did not know. (Surah al-Alaq, 96 1- 5 )

The emboldened should answer your question.

joseph1832:
Why did the angel press him, surely the angle could have made him read without the use of force?

E.mpiree, you're needed here.

midolian:



“…an angel placed a tablet by his side and said: ‘Recite’. And the Prophet on account of the fact that he was unlettered and had not learned to read and write, replied that he was unable to read. The Archangel Jibreel pressed him severely and then asked him to recite. However, he repeated the same reply. The angel again pressed him severely. This action was repeated thrice and after the third pressure he suddenly felt within himself that he could read the writing on the tablet held by the angel. He then read the following verses which are infact reckoned to be the introduction of the Book of human welfare:

“Recite in the name of your Lord who created (all things). He created man from a clot of blood! Recite, your Lord is the Most Bountiful One, Who by the pen taught man what he did not know. (Surah al-Alaq, 96 1- 5 )

The emboldened should answer your question.

Empiree:
Be right here later, in sha Allah.

joseph1832:
Why did the angel press him, surely the angle could have made him read without the use of force?
Empiree, you're needed here.

dalaman2:
Everything is possible in mythology and fiction, illiterates can read, virgins can give birth, a sea can be parted by throwing a stick in it, donkeys talk, stars fight together with humans, human being can live inside a fish for 3 days, a man can walk to the muddy spring where the sun sets, men can walk on water, men can die and be resurrected back to life, nothing is impossible in the world of fiction and mythology.

Medicis:
"A fool has no delight in understanding, but in expressing his own heart."  Proverbs 18:2

dalaman2:


A fool will always accep obvious mythology and fiction all in the name of religion.

Medicis:
Proverbs 1:32

"For the waywardness of the naive will kill them, And the complacency of fools will destroy them.

dalaman2:


For the stupidity of myth believers will ruin them and the complacency of inane charlatans will obliterate them.

Medicis:
Ecclesiastes 10:2-3New International Version (NIV)

2 The heart of the wise inclines to the right,
    but the heart of the fool to the left.
3 Even as fools walk along the road,
    they lack sense
    and show everyone how stupid they are.

parisbookaddict:




[s]here is the answer.. mohammed was possessed


here is a topic i created on the issue


Was Mohammed possessed?. .the evidence suggests he was.

Mizanul MizanuŸl Haqq, page 345:
“Ibn Ishaq says that, before the
Revelation first began to descend
upon him, Mohammed’s friends
feared that he was suffering from
the EVIL EYE: and that, when it came
upon him, almost the same illness
attacked him again …On the
authority of ‘Amr ibn Sharhabil it is
stated that Muhammad said to
Khadijah, “When I was alone I heard
a cry: ‘O Muhammad, O
Muhammad.”‘ In tradition (ﺭﻭﺍﻳﺔ) it is
stated that he said, “I fear lest I
should become a magician, lest one
should proclaim me a FOLLOWERS OF
THE JINN”; and again: “I fear lest
there should be madness” (or
demoniac possession ﺟﻨﻮﻥ) “in me”.
After an accession of shivering and
shutting his eyes, there used to
come over him what resembled a
swoon, his face would foam, and he
would roar like a young camel.”

It is important to note that none of the
Biblical prophets ever questioned the
source of their revelations because they
were very sure of the inspiration they
were receiving. Muhammad’s experience was far more similar to the experience of spirit mediums than that of the prophets of the true God.


In the Bible, whenever a revelation is
given to a prophet through the agency of angels, there is not a
single instance
where the angel possesses the
individual. Neither does the angel
physically harm the recipient of the
messages or cause that individual to
foam at the mouth or make
uncontrollable grunts and noises or
become suicidal.

However, these descriptions are common in demonic activities, whereby the unclean spirit enters into the individual causing him to display certain characteristics similar to the ones
described here;
Mishkat IV, page 360:
“‘And indeed I saw him while the
revelation descended upon him on
an intensely cold day; THEN IT LEFT
HIM while his brow steamed with
sweat.’”
Here it was clearly written the angel possessed him"then left him"
after the revelation
Sahih Bukhari, Volume 1, Book 1, Number 3:
The Prophet added, “ THE ANGEL
CAUGHT ME (forcefully) and PRESSED
ME SO HARD that I could not bear it
any more. He then released me and
again asked me to read and I replied,
‘I do not know how to read.’
Thereupon HE CAUGHT ME AGAIN and
pressed me a second time till I
could not bear it any more. He then
released me and again asked me to
read but again I replied, ‘I do not
know how to read (or what shall I
read)?’ Thereupon he CAUGHT ME FOR
THE THIRD time and pressed me, and
then released me and said, ‘Read in
the name of your Lord, who has
created (all that exists) has created
man from a clot.
Here,we read the angel violently attack him.

Ibn Ishaq’s Sirat Rasul Allah:
So I (Muhammad) read it, and he
(Gabriel) departed from me. And I
awoke from my sleep, and it was as
though these words were written on
my heart. Now none of God’s
creatures was more horrible to me
than a poet or a man possessed: I
could not even look at them. I
thought, “WOE IS ME POET OR
POSSESSED - Never shall Quraysh say
this of me! I will go to the top of the
mountain and throw myself down
that I may KILL MYSELF and gain rest.”


The evidences from Muslim sources
themselves point to the conclusion that:
(1) The revelations Muhammad actually
received, did not come from Jehovah, the
true God.
(2) The spirit that spoke to Muhammad is
clearly not the angel Gabriel but an
impersonating demon that delivered
contradictory messages to Muhammad.
Muhammad was deceived and victimized
by the impersonating spirit because he
was unacquainted with the knowledge of
the true God. Lacking knowledge, he
believed every utterance of this spirit.
(3) The spirit that spoke to Muhammad
motivated him to commit gross acts of
wickedness and indecency.


Mizanul MizanuŸl Haqq, page 345:
“After an accession of shivering and
shutting his eyes, there used to come
over him what resembled a swoon,
his FACE WOULD FOAM and he would
ROAR LIKE A YOUNG CAMEL.”

Compare it with this devil possessed man in the bible;

Mark 9:20: “So they brought him.
When the spirit saw Jesus, it
immediately threw the boy into a
convulsion. He fell to the ground and
rolled around, FOAMiNG at the
mouth.”


Mastery in the Qur’anic Sciences, by al-
Suyuti, 1:45-46:
Zaid b. Thabit said: “When the
inspiration came down upon
Muhammad, he himself became
heavier. One time, his thigh fell
against my thigh, and I swear to God,
I have never found anything that was
heavier than the thigh of
Muhammad. Whenever the
inspiration came upon him, while
he was on his camel, it limped, and
its LEG WAS THOUGHT TO BE BROKEN;
and sometimes it squatted.”

Even the people do not trust his revelation so they called he(muhammed) a mad man;

Surah 15:6: “And they say: O thou
unto whom the Reminder is revealed,
lo! Thou art indeed a
MADMAN” (Pickthall translation)

Read this other two incident in both the bible and quran,both men were possessed by evil spirit and wanted to commit suicide;

Ibn Ishaq’s Sirat Rasul Allah:
So I (Muhammad) read it, and he
(Gabriel) departed from me. And I
awoke from my sleep, and it was as
though these words were written on
my heart. Now none of God’s
creatures was more horrible to me
than a poet or a man possessed: I
could not even look at them. I
thought, “Woe is me poet or
possessed - Never shall Quraysh say
this of me! I will go to the top of the
MOUNTAIN AND THROW MYSELF DOWN
that I may KILL MYSELF and gain rest.”

Here we see muhammed wanted to kill himself because the devil impassonated angel possessed muhammed,same thing happened to a man who was possessed by evil spirit;

Mark 5:5-9: And when Jesus had
come out of the boat, immediately
there met him out of the tombs a
man with an UNCLEAN SPIRIT…And
always, night and day, he was in the
mountains and in the tombs, CRYING
OUT AND CUTING HIMSELF WITH STONE.
For He (Jesus) said to him, ”Come out
of the man, unclean spirit!”

There are a lot of evidence to prove ISLAM is satanic infact I do you guys some favour in keeping some devilish teaching in the quran.

Now I ask from the evidence presented does it appear that this prophet possessedthat? Yes or No..??

Finally this is Allah name in the Arabic(see pic below). ..what does the image look like. -hint: what or who decieved Adam and Eve in the garden.

Shalom..[/s]

dalaman2:


The mind of the rationalist is pure and based on reason
but the mind of the myth believing fool is based purely on mythology and fiction.
As the religious fools embraces mythology and fiction, that is how he shows every body how idiotic and deluded he is.

Medicis:
The way of a fool is right in his own eyes and a fool's wrath is known at once. **WISEFOOL**

dalaman2:


The ways of a deluded myth believer is correct in his deluded eyes but he will always end up a fool in the eyes of the wise and reasonable.

Demmzy15:

Block head! You no get work!

parisbookaddict:


more insults from the devout muslim.. your "prophet" will be proud.

Medicis:
oh Ahithophel brother of folly. And suddenly his so called wisdom has been made foolish.**WISEFOOL**

parisbookaddict:


more insults from the devout muslim.. your "prophet" will be proud.

Medicis:
The angel came to him in (Hira) and asked him to read. The Prophet replied, "I do not know how to read."
(The Prophet added), "The angel caught me (forcefully) and pressed me so hard that I could not bear it anymore. He then released me and again asked me to read, and I replied, "I do not know how to read," whereupon he caught me again and pressed me a second time till I could not bear it anymore.
He then released me and asked me again to read, but again I replied, "I do not know how to read Thereupon he caught me for the third time and pressed me and then released me and said,

"Read: In the Name of your Lord, Who has created; created man from a clot…."  Al Alaq (96.1). Now, my question... Why would Angel Jibril demand from Muhammad to read without showing him what to read in the first place? How was Muhammad supposed to read something that did not exist because no book or literature was presented to him to read from? Sincere answers pls.

midolian:



“…an angel placed a tablet by his side and said: ‘Recite’. And the Prophet on account of the fact that he was unlettered and had not learned to read and write, replied that he was unable to read. The Archangel Jibreel pressed him severely and then asked him to recite. However, he repeated the same reply. The angel again pressed him severely. This action was repeated thrice and after the third pressure he suddenly felt within himself that he could read the writing on the tablet held by the angel. He then read the following verses which are infact reckoned to be the introduction of the Book of human welfare:

“Recite in the name of your Lord who created (all things). He created man from a clot of blood! Recite, your Lord is the Most Bountiful One, Who by the pen taught man what he did not know. (Surah al-Alaq, 96 1- 5 )

The emboldened should answer your question.

joseph1832:
Why did the angel press him, surely the angle could have made him read without the use of force?

Emp.iree, you're needed here. And @ Medicis

dalaman2:


Oh thee deluded and indoctrinated man of inanity. When will thou accept your delusion and turn from your foolish ways. *DELUDEDFOOL*

Medicis:
The word of his mouth begins with foolishless, and the end of his word is extreme madness. **WISEFOOL**

dalaman2:


Out of his mouth he regurgitates inane mythology and at the end of his word is idiotic madness. *DELUDEDFOOL*

Demmzy15:
Block head! You no get work!

parisbookaddict:




here is the answer.. mohammed was possessed


here is a topic i created on the issue


Was Mohammed possessed?. .the evidence suggests he was.

Mizanul MizanuŸl Haqq, page 345:
“Ibn Ishaq says that, before the
Revelation first began to descend
upon him, Mohammed’s friends
feared that he was suffering from
the EVIL EYE: and that, when it came
upon him, almost the same illness
attacked him again …On the
authority of ‘Amr ibn Sharhabil it is
stated that Muhammad said to
Khadijah, “When I was alone I heard
a cry: ‘O Muhammad, O
Muhammad.”‘ In tradition (ﺭﻭﺍﻳﺔ) it is
stated that he said, “I fear lest I
should become a magician, lest one
should proclaim me a FOLLOWERS OF
THE JINN”; and again: “I fear lest
there should be madness” (or
demoniac possession ﺟﻨﻮﻥ) “in me”.
After an accession of shivering and
shutting his eyes, there used to
come over him what resembled a
swoon, his face would foam, and he
would roar like a young camel.”

It is important to note that none of the
Biblical prophets ever questioned the
source of their revelations because they
were very sure of the inspiration they
were receiving. Muhammad’s experience was far more similar to the experience of spirit mediums than that of the prophets of the true God.


In the Bible, whenever a revelation is
given to a prophet through the agency of angels, there is not a
single instance
where the angel possesses the
individual. Neither does the angel
physically harm the recipient of the
messages or cause that individual to
foam at the mouth or make
uncontrollable grunts and noises or
become suicidal.

However, these descriptions are common in demonic activities, whereby the unclean spirit enters into the individual causing him to display certain characteristics similar to the ones
described here;
Mishkat IV, page 360:
“‘And indeed I saw him while the
revelation descended upon him on
an intensely cold day; THEN IT LEFT
HIM while his brow steamed with
sweat.’”
Here it was clearly written the angel possessed him"then left him"
after the revelation
Sahih Bukhari, Volume 1, Book 1, Number 3:
The Prophet added, “ THE ANGEL
CAUGHT ME (forcefully) and PRESSED
ME SO HARD that I could not bear it
any more. He then released me and
again asked me to read and I replied,
‘I do not know how to read.’
Thereupon HE CAUGHT ME AGAIN and
pressed me a second time till I
could not bear it any more. He then
released me and again asked me to
read but again I replied, ‘I do not
know how to read (or what shall I
read)?’ Thereupon he CAUGHT ME FOR
THE THIRD time and pressed me, and
then released me and said, ‘Read in
the name of your Lord, who has
created (all that exists) has created
man from a clot.
Here,we read the angel violently attack him.

Ibn Ishaq’s Sirat Rasul Allah:
So I (Muhammad) read it, and he
(Gabriel) departed from me. And I
awoke from my sleep, and it was as
though these words were written on
my heart. Now none of God’s
creatures was more horrible to me
than a poet or a man possessed: I
could not even look at them. I
thought, “WOE IS ME POET OR
POSSESSED - Never shall Quraysh say
this of me! I will go to the top of the
mountain and throw myself down
that I may KILL MYSELF and gain rest.”


The evidences from Muslim sources
themselves point to the conclusion that:
(1) The revelations Muhammad actually
received, did not come from Jehovah, the
true God.
(2) The spirit that spoke to Muhammad is
clearly not the angel Gabriel but an
impersonating demon that delivered
contradictory messages to Muhammad.
Muhammad was deceived and victimized
by the impersonating spirit because he
was unacquainted with the knowledge of
the true God. Lacking knowledge, he
believed every utterance of this spirit.
(3) The spirit that spoke to Muhammad
motivated him to commit gross acts of
wickedness and indecency.


Mizanul MizanuŸl Haqq, page 345:
“After an accession of shivering and
shutting his eyes, there used to come
over him what resembled a swoon,
his FACE WOULD FOAM and he would
ROAR LIKE A YOUNG CAMEL.”

Compare it with this devil possessed man in the bible;

Mark 9:20: “So they brought him.
When the spirit saw Jesus, it
immediately threw the boy into a
convulsion. He fell to the ground and
rolled around, FOAMiNG at the
mouth.”


Mastery in the Qur’anic Sciences, by al-
Suyuti, 1:45-46:
Zaid b. Thabit said: “When the
inspiration came down upon
Muhammad, he himself became
heavier. One time, his thigh fell
against my thigh, and I swear to God,
I have never found anything that was
heavier than the thigh of
Muhammad. Whenever the
inspiration came upon him, while
he was on his camel, it limped, and
its LEG WAS THOUGHT TO BE BROKEN;
and sometimes it squatted.”

Even the people do not trust his revelation so they called he(muhammed) a mad man;

Surah 15:6: “And they say: O thou
unto whom the Reminder is revealed,
lo! Thou art indeed a
MADMAN” (Pickthall translation)

Read this other two incident in both the bible and quran,both men were possessed by evil spirit and wanted to commit suicide;

Ibn Ishaq’s Sirat Rasul Allah:
So I (Muhammad) read it, and he
(Gabriel) departed from me. And I
awoke from my sleep, and it was as
though these words were written on
my heart. Now none of God’s
creatures was more horrible to me
than a poet or a man possessed: I
could not even look at them. I
thought, “Woe is me poet or
possessed - Never shall Quraysh say
this of me! I will go to the top of the
MOUNTAIN AND THROW MYSELF DOWN
that I may KILL MYSELF and gain rest.”

Here we see muhammed wanted to kill himself because the devil impassonated angel possessed muhammed,same thing happened to a man who was possessed by evil spirit;

Mark 5:5-9: And when Jesus had
come out of the boat, immediately
there met him out of the tombs a
man with an UNCLEAN SPIRIT…And
always, night and day, he was in the
mountains and in the tombs, CRYING
OUT AND CUTING HIMSELF WITH STONE.
For He (Jesus) said to him, ”Come out
of the man, unclean spirit!”

There are a lot of evidence to prove ISLAM is satanic infact I do you guys some favour in keeping some devilish teaching in the quran.

Now I ask from the evidence presented does it appear that this prophet possessedthat? Yes or No..??

Finally this is Allah name in the Arabic(see pic below). ..what does the image look like. -hint: what or who decieved Adam and Eve in the garden.[/s]

Shalom..

OZAOEKPE:

Ifeann keeps destroying the descendants of MOHAmmed

Chilled camel piss and thick ogi, you don come again abi?!